Sources Say Coyote And EcoBoost Engines On Horizon For F-150, Sunset for 4.6-L and 5.4-L V-8s

Coyote and EcoBoost Engines On Horizon For F-150

According to PickupTrucks.com sources, Ford is planning big changes to the F-150's powertrain lineup in 2010 for the 2011 model year, focused on giving buyers more power and greater efficiency.

The current F-150 offers a choice of either a base two-valve or an advanced three-valve 4.6-liter V-8, or a top-of-the-line three-valve 5.4-liter V-8. The old entry-level 4.2-liter V-6 was dropped for 2009.

By late 2010, the new standard engine for the F-150 will be a 5.0-liter, four-valve, naturally aspirated V-8, developed under the code name "coyote." This eight-cylinder engine (described as having "huge heads") will be shared with the new Ford Mustang. Power figures are said to be approximately 400 horsepower and 400 pounds-feet of torque. Fuel economy is expected to be comparable to the current 5.4-liter engine.

In an interesting reversal of tradition for trucks, the premium engine for the light-duty F-150 will be a V-6. The new rear-wheel-drive version of the 3.5-liter, six-cylinder EcoBoost gasoline turbo direct-injection motor will occupy the top slot. Ford has officially said the EcoBoost engine will arrive next year with improved fuel economy and low-end torque with a broad, diesel-like torque curve through most of its power band. Our sources say it too will be rated at approximately 400 hp and more than 400 pounds-feet of torque. Gas mileage is expected to be at least 23 mpg on the highway.

The arrival of these new engines is said to mean the end of the line for the F-150's 4.6-liter and 5.4-liter V-8s. The premium 6.2-liter V-8 engine (formerly known as "Boss") that will debut late this year in the 2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor will be limited to only niche F-150 models and the Super Duty line.

Edited Jan-20, 2009: The 5.0-liter V-8 will not be modular, as originally reported.

Comments

Is the 6.2L supposed to be more powerful than the 5.0L? The reason I ask is because the 6.2L was mentioned to have about 400 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque when the SVT Raptor debuted. So if that is the case, I would think that the 5.0L engine has less power and torque or the 6.2L has more than 400 for both power and torque. Otherwise, I don't see what the point would be to have both engines unless it's simply so that the torque is available at a lower RPM on the 6.2L at the cost of fuel efficiency in comparison to the 5.0L.

From what we've heard, all of these engines are bunched up around the same 400/400 power ratings. We don't have final numbers, but this *could be* one reason why the 6.2-L isn't going to be a large volume engine.

Even if they are centered around 400/400, there are different tradeoffs between engines, like fuel economy over up front cost.

Stay tuned is the best we can say for now. As soon as we get better details on power, we'll let you know.

this article almost made me sad haha... as a current owner of a 97 4.6 liter f-150 with 200thousad plus miles i love these engines they currently have... the 4.6 is a work horse in my opinion. i still tow my 30 ft camper with it in the Oklahoma heat. now i know that is prob what ford needs to do and its time to move on... these engines have served their time and served it very VERY well. i am excited.. these new HP and TQ ratings along with the fuel economy sounds very excitin... ford is awesome..

5.0L 4VALVE ENGINE WOULD BE MORE REVY THAN THE 6.2L 2 V BOSS WITH MORE TORQ AT LOW RPMS, SO THE QUESTION IS WHERE AND HOW YOU USE YOUR F150.
MY BET WAS 5.0L 3VALVE ENGINE FOR THE STANG AND F150s WAS TO BE THE ANSWER TO FUEL ECONOMY AND POWER BALANCE, BUT SINCE THE NEW 6SPEED TRANS MAKES AN AWESOME LEAP FOR PERFORMANCE AND ECONOMY, LETS HOPE BOTH 3 AND 4 VALVE 5.0L ENGINES MAKE IT TO THE F150, 340 3V AND MAYBE 380 4V HP. I HOPE HARLEY AND SVT MODELS ARRIVE SOON WITH ANY OF THESE ENGINES NATURAL AND BLOWN AS AN OPTION, IT WOULD BE MY DREAM F150: REG CAB 500HP, 6SPEED TRANNY, 22-24INCH WHEELS; WHERE DO I SIGN !!

I was wondering if the 5.0 is the new Boss engine but different code name?
I thought Ford said they were not going to produce but one version of the Boss and that was the 6.2 litre!

But when they were orginally discussing making the Boss engine they were going to make a 5.0 and 6.2!

Anyway I will take the V8 anyday over all the headaches with Turbos, High Tech Stuff that usually gives a lot of problems and hardly any impovement with fuel economy!

But I hope them luck and for trying!

What do you say to the folks on gm inside news that say it will only be 360 hp?

@Scott: I'll stick with what our sources are telling us for the EcoBoost V-6 (approx. 400/400). They were correct about F-100, part of our Raptor info and that Boss production had been cut from two engines to one.

Kinda makes me glad I only leased my 08! Come 2011 when it's time to turn it in I think I'll be lookin' at that new 5.0 with horsepower envy (though the residual is low enough I might still want to buy my 08 - it'll only have 30,000 miles on it, should be worth more, I hope). Sure, the V-6 will be equally powered, but ya can't beat V-8 noises. I doubt the mileage will be as good as advertised anyway. Mines rated at 24-25 (I think) hwy mpg (Imperial) and if we get 17 we must have a tailwind. My old 98 CHevy Z71 got 19 average using it the same way (my wife's daily driver in town). Still, I love my Ford truck more than the Chevy ever got loved...only beef is the mileage aint anywhere near as advertised.

i dont see the hype, all of these engines will have only a 5 or 6 speed sh*tbox automatic

for those too stupid to drive a stick, this ones for you

I am a ford fan til I die, but I just have one question with all trucks when any company sends out new engines what happens is there is a problem with any (especially gm/chev) so I wanted to know is will these engines have all the bugs worked out before hitting the road?

Man oh Man am I excited about a 400HP Eco Boost for the F-150. The 5.0 is cool and necessary for some, especially for the Mustang V8 die hard and the guys who think they still need a V8 or anticipate putting turbos or super chargers on their new 5.0. I have to say with the 5.0 heritage it bound to bring Mustang loyalist back if they were swept away with the new Chevy Camaro. Back to F-150's. I'm pretty sure though that a Dark Blue Platinum Crew Cab will be my next truck. To bad there is no Raptor Suspension and locker package available, because I would spring for that too. I would order a Black Raptor with no graphics if it was available in the Platinum. Oh well. Seeing that I just sold my 2007 King Ranch in anticipation of the new Eco Boost being offered in the F-150, I'm ready for my new truck as soon as one is available, and with the news that it will be rated at 400HP 400lbs/ft Torque I am soooooo excited! Finally a motor line up worthy of the F-150. Now if only we can talk Ford into offering the Platinum as a Single Cab also, with the 400HP 400lbs/ft Torque Eco Boost V6, I'm betting that even as a 4x4 it would get 2mpgs better from the estimated 17city 23hwy pushing 19city 25 hwy, which would be unreal for a full size truck. Since my wife has an SUV I don't really need a Crew Cab but I want the Platinum luxury. I loved my King Ranch! A single cab AWD or 4x4 Platinum would be awesome to drive because of the smaller packaging. I've owned a 98 and 05 Step Side F-150 STX's which were so much fun to drive my only beef with them was the lack of Luxury, 6 speed auto, and a wheel and tire package that put all thoughts of aftermarket wheels to rest. Just to get back to the new motors, Fords current F-150's are the best full size trucks hands down, an with these two new motor choices being offered soon they just killed GM, Chevy, Dodge, and Toyota. They can't compete! Especially because GM is no longer a general, its now Government Motors, sucking my Tax dollars into the Liberal Democrat black hole. I sure hope the American Workers and truck enthusiasts rally behind Ford like never before to send one message to the politicians, Stay out of our lives, our pockets, and our freedom to run our businesses with out government bailouts!!!!!!!

If the news is accurate then my opinion of Ford just solidified their already superior line of Trucks as King. A 3.5L V6 Eco Boost at 400HP, 400lbs/ft of Torque rated at 19-23mpg's is a game changer for the full size line up. Plus the introduction of an equally powerful but less expensive 5.0 V8 is also a very welcomed option if it can keep the same economy as the current 5.4 Ford will have the total package for the Ford F-150 to gain back more market share. With the Heritage of the 5.0 Ford will have Mustang Lovers flocking to show rooms. This new 5.0 V8 is the perfect platform to build excitement in the after market world again for the Mustang. Which is what Ford need in order to keep the loyalty high!

I think logan barber said it all and perfectly. I can't wait till they come out so I can buy the eco-boost. I have waited 5 years for a diesel and I will wait no longer. GM is no general, they are Genie Motors wishing to stay alive as Govt. Motors. If you can't compete, get out of the game.

All you guys asking your non-thinking questions about the new 5.0 V8 make me wonder. It is very obvious that the new 5.0 is a 3.7 DOHC V6 (Lincoln version of the Edge/Taurus/Flex 3.5) with two cylinders added. Do the math. Plus it resembles it visually. This is a good thing as the new V6's are great engines. I have an Edge and am very impressed with the performance of it. For a 4100 lb vehicle with such a small engine it goes alright, and I got 26mpg driving the length of Tennessee. That's the only time I checked it the old fashioned way of volume / miles . So enjoy, this 5.0 is going to have major potential.

I am so going to buy one of these trucks when they release. I have been a GM fan all my life and any new car I bought was a GM as I am from a GM family. But seeing as how they screwed their Retirees and are now run by Obama I do not care if they released the 57 Chevy again I would not buy it from them. And GOD knows that’s the holly of holly for Chevy.

Mark, The 3.5/3.7 are a 60 degree design while the 5.0 is 90 degree. The 5.0 uses a roller finger follower valvetrain, the Duratec V6s have direct acting mechanical bucket valvetrain. Just a few important differences...clearly not based on the same engine.



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