GM Indefinitely Postpones 4.5-Liter Duramax Light-Duty Diesel Engine

GM Indefinitely Postpones 4.5-liter Duramax Light-Duty Diesel Engine

Light-duty truck buyers interested in purchasing a half-ton diesel are going to have to wait until after 2010 at the very earliest. GM is the latest manufacturer to confirm a diesel engine won’t be offered any time soon in its light-duty pickups. Employees at GM’s Tonawanda Engine Plant near Buffalo, N.Y., were told Monday that the all-new 4.5-liter Duramax V-8 diesel has been indefinitely postponed.

“Due to capital constraints and the current economic climate, the 4.5-liter Duramax is on indefinite hold,” GM powertrain spokesperson Susan Garavaglia told PickupTrucks.com. “It’s not canceled. Should the situation change, we’re still very interested in adding this technology to our product portfolio.”

The news of the so-called baby Duramax being placed on hold isn’t surprising. Ford and Toyota have also indefinitely paused their small diesel programs, and Chrysler recently said a diesel for the Dodge Ram 1500 won’t be available until 2011 at the earliest. Ford, GM, Chrysler and Toyota had previously promised half-ton diesels by the 2010 calendar year.

A rapid surge in fuel prices last year that left diesel fuel with an approximate 20 percent price premium over regular gasoline and the dramatic decline in pickup truck sales have been cited by other truck manufacturers, as well as the deteriorating condition of the general economy.

The 4.5-liter Duramax was a major innovation for diesel engines. It was designed by GM entirely in-house and represented a radical new approach to diesel engine architecture. It reversed the intake and exhaust relative to a conventional diesel so fresh air would enter the cylinders from the outer edges of the cylinder heads while exhaust gases were dumped between the cylinder heads directly into a turbocharger. The breakthrough design eliminated the intake and exhaust manifolds and other related components, saving weight, reducing size and lowering costs by up to an estimated $600 per engine versus a conventional diesel. GM promised power ratings for the 4.5-liter Duramax would be more than 310 horsepower and 520 pounds-feet of torque with up to 25 percent better fuel economy.

“We currently offer a full line of gas and diesel engines in different displacements to meet truck buyers’ needs,” Garavaglia said. “And our Two-Mode Hybrid gets up to 40 percent better fuel economy in the city (versus a comparable gas engine light-duty pickup). For towing and hauling we have our 6.6-liter Duramax diesel available for our heavy-duty Silverado and Sierra pickups. It will be updated for 2010 to meet the latest [EPA] emissions requirements.”

The 6.6-liter V-8 Duramax is rated at 660 pounds-feet of torque and 365 hp.

Garavaglia added that GM might license the 4.5-liter V-8 to an outside partner even if it doesn't build it on its own.

"If it was a win-win for both parties, we could potentially outsource production [of the 4.5-liter V-8] to a third party," Garavaglia said.

Comments

Well, that sucks, but its the way it has to be...for now.

Seriously. Is GM TRYING to go out of business? Because if they don't come up with an alternative like Ford already has with their ecoboost engine, they probably will go out of business. I mean, they have, excuse me, HAD all of this money and knowledge to build more fuel efficient cars using alternative fuels, but so far, they haven't really shown anything, and now, Japan is kicking our asses in terms of quality, safety features, and fuel efficiency.

Price Is Right loser horn sounds.....

Just like what got everyone into the mess they are in now. I am talking Ford, GM, Toyota, and Chrysler. Everyone is planning that things will stay constant and plan based on that. Where I am at diesel is at 1.789 and this is 100% diesel and 87 octane that is E10 is 1.669. Diesel has been slowly dropping and gas is slowly rising. I can go a lot further on the diesel than I can on the gas. Also, I live in Oklahoma and most of my driving is on the highway at 65 to 70 MPH and sometimes 75 MPH if I hit the turnpike. Sorry, but hybrids do not help here. Come on bring the diesels, there is a organization I noticed that is pushing the diesel efficiency over gas as well as the benefits and how much the diesel engines have changed even in just the last ten years to educate the public. Do something different for a change and bring the diesel. She mentions the hybrid, this does not help me and the 6.6 is in the HDs. I do not need the HDs. Then again who knows, GM may do a minor refresh for 2010 and throw DI on the pickup engines to add more power and fuel economy. The last comment is pure speculation on my part.

Can someone tell me what kind of fuel mileage do you get on the Duramax? Cause most of the people I talk to tells me they are terrible and told me to get the Cummins Diesel. So help me out who's better? Chevy, Dodge or Ford??? Thanks...

My 6.6 Duramax is getting 17.5-18.5 around town and anywhere from 19.5-21.5 on the highway. Thats with no EGR, no cat, stock tune, stock tires. 75MPH max on the highway.

wow they did the same whit the electice car they have something to win or progres,they decide not to build ,the 6,2 is cheaper to build and bye,but not like a diesel ,wy you dong give the buyer to decide if they whant a diesel or a gaz take a chance...

I was going to buy a new truck in late 2009 and patiently waiting for the new engine. Looks like I have no choice now but to buy a HD instead. What a missed opportunity for GM to show that they are interested in their customer base. Hybrids still burn gas, problems now with batteries, between the cost of a hybrid and a diesel, I'd pick the diesel everytime.

Looks like mahindra will corner this market. Wake up big 6.

What a bunch of schmucks!!!! I will be in the market for another half ton in the near future. I had my heart set on the Baby Duramax. Lemme guess the Camaro will be on hold. GM needs to remove it's head from in between its hind quarters and do something first. GM always waits on someone else to have a hit and then copy. I swear to you I will get a Ram Crew with the 5 liter Cummins if it's out first. Not everyone wants a 3/4 ton. I'd love one but money is money. This is why GM is in deep doo doo. No vision no leadership.
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

"A rapid surge in fuel prices last year that left diesel fuel with an approximate 20 percent price premium over regular gasoline "

Wake up. Diesel is at the same price as gasoline in many places right now. A wrong decision, on old information.

I have been waiting until 2010 to buy a new Tohue with the 4.5 deasel engine that is clean burning and gets good milage. The German cars already have then, but I wanted to buy American,so I waited. I can't believe that GM has the tecnology and is not going to produce it for the public. This is the reason that American car manufactures are continuing to fall behind. I hope that they seriously reconsider this and produce this engine as soon as posible !

Most of the design sounded great with the MAJOR exception to the intake above the heads. I can't imagine how foolish that idea was. Any chance there is air and motor oil in the same space? Motor oil going into the intake??? Can we say Detroit Diesel runaway?

I too am amazed, and incredibly let down that the production of this engine has been "indefinitely delayed". I've been a huge fan of diesels since I was a kid growing up in rural Alaska. I remember being 12 years old using our old truck to pull stumps and logs around our property. Now diesel is all I drive, and with new day pickups getting bigger and bigger, I was looking forward to a small block diesel in a lighter application. Right now I've got the LB7 motor in my CCSB, and like the fact that this potential powerplant will equal what I've got currently under my hood. GM is truly behind the 8-Ball if they don't come through and produce this motor. I've liked everything I've read about this motor, except the urea injection. I'm not too worried about even that though, as it's only a small matter of time after it comes out (hopefully) that aftermarket companies will come up with emissions delete kits.

Does anyone think there's a way to gather a support group, and send a plethora of emails to GM saying how much we want this motor? If there is, I'll gladly. In fact, go to duramaxforum.com I'll start a post right now.

My '02 2500 Duramax HD weighed in at 6700-6900 lbs. This new engine, the 4.5 Duramax, in a lighter 1500 platform, could weigh in at 5500-5700 lbs. With a 1000 lb. curb weight advantage, this truck should get 22 city and 26 hwy. That is still better than my Tundra with it's 5.7 gas and 6spd. trans, weighing 5700 lbs. Tundra gets 17 city and 19 hwy if I don't get into the throttle. Still, the 4.5 would be a huge improvement in mpg. and power, noticeably the torque at 510-520 ft. lbs. This is the same number as my '02 duramax. GM spent a lot of time refining the design, acquiring some patents along the way. I should guess that it will be reliable when it comes out. I agree that GM should have gotten this motor to market to help its sagging CAFE and product sales.

The 4.5 duramax is just what the big SUV needs. I have an excursion and I was just waiting for GM to bring this out. I don't tow alot but love the mileage and durability of the diesil. I was going to trade as soon as it came out. GM just lost more business.

It is high time for GM to get it's #%*# together and build a small powerful diesel for 1/2 and 3/4 ton units. MFG cost under $700? That's incredible..... Power, durability and good fuel economy, isn't that EXACTLY what we all need?
So bring it on GM, don't be the last one to the party...again.



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