Toyota Investigating 2000-01 Tundra Pickups With Rusty Frames

,Toyota Investigating 2000-01 Tundra Pickups With Rusty Frames
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Despite an arctic-inspired name, certain Toyota Tundra full-size pickups may have problems withstanding harsh winter climates. Toyota is investigating reports of frame rust problems in 2000 and 2001 Tundras similar to those that caused the Japanese auto giant to extend warranties, buy back entire trucks, or repair or replace severely rusted frames in its 1995-2000 and 2001-04 Toyota Tacoma midsize pickups last year.

We contacted Toyota after reading a story from Boston television station WCVB about Tundra owners with frames so badly corroded that some trucks might not be considered fit for work or resale.

“At this stage, we’re trying to grasp the situation,” said Brian Lyons, Toyota’s Safety and Quality communications manager. “We don’t know whether we have an issue with Tundra or not.”

But 2000 Toyota Tundra owner Tim Gatzke says he knows.

“I can only drive my truck about two or three miles because the power steering fluid leaks out,” Gatzke said. “That’s because the steering rack behind the front part of the frame is so corroded that it’s broken away from the frame and the seal on the rack is leaking fluid. One of the rear leaf springs is broken, too.”

Rear Of Frame Looking Forward
Photo: 2000 Toyota Tundra Owner Tim Gatzke

Gatzke emailed us underbody pictures of his Tundra pickup that show severe rust damage.

Other Tundra owners have filed similar complaints with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, where more than two dozen corrosion claims about 2000 and 2001 Tundra frames are on record.

According to Lyons, 1995-2004 Tacoma pickups and 2000-01 Tundras shared the same frame supplier: Toledo, Ohio-based Dana Holding Corporation. In investigating the Tacoma’s rust complaints, Toyota discovered that Dana hadn’t properly prepped Tacoma frames to resist corrosion before they were shipped to Toyota’s NUMMI manufacturing plant, where the Tacoma is assembled.

“Because of the Tacoma, we are taking a look at other vehicles of similar make and production elements. This includes the Tundra,” Lyons said. “[Dana] used the same rust treatment [for the Tacoma and Tundra] during manufacturing.”

2000 was the Toyota Tundra’s inaugural model year. It was introduced as a replacement for the earlier Toyota T100 pickup. The first trucks were built in 1999. In 2000, 100,455 were sold, and another 108,863 were sold in 2001.

Most rust-damaged Tundras have been reported in what Toyota defines as severe cold-weather states, like Massachusetts, where brutal winter road conditions can take their toll on under-protected metal.

For now, a team of Toyota engineers and technicians out in the field is inspecting reports of rusted Tundras as they’re flagged by Toyota dealers or Toyota’s national Customer Experience Center. Toyota has yet to send out a formal letter about the issue to its dealers or to Tundra owners, like it did for the Tacoma in 2008.

Leaking Power Steering Fluid and Steering Rack
Photo: 2000 Toyota Tundra Owner Tim Gatzke

“We need to look at each vehicle and understand its history — where it’s been driven and how it’s been driven," Lyons said. “It’s a little complicated because the warranty on these 2000-01 vehicles has run out. We can’t just warranty the frame. We have to deal with them on a case-by-case basis.”

Lyons says Toyota is still trying to figure out how it will support customers complaining about these vehicles, but part of Toyota’s short-term response could be paying for repairs even though the trucks are well past their factory warranty periods.

Over the long term, if the situation warrants, Toyota could take similar blanket action with the Tundra as it did with the Tacoma.

Lyons says 2000-01 Toyota Tundra owners with questions or trucks showing frame rust problems should call Toyota’s Customer Experience Center at 1-800-331-4331.

[Source: WCVB Channel 5, Boston via TundraHeadquarters.com]

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Add another disappointed, and darn close to disgusted, customer to the list of those with junked, or soon to be junked, Tundras. I've got a 2000 Tundra Limited that I bought new off the lot 10 years ago. I've just learned the frame is rusted through and has multiple perforations. My last three vehicles have all been purchased new off the lot, and all have been Toyota products. The Tundra was the least expensive one... If Toyota doesn't get on their horse and get this resolved like they did for the Tacoma owners - meaning buyback or comprehensive frame/associated component replacement - then I have definitely bought my last Toyota product. Prior to this situation I would never have even considered another brand of vehicle. This truck is my winter driver (120,000 miles on it) and the NH winter fast approaches. If I have to pull the trigger on another vehicle for safe winter transportation before Toyota addresses the situation in good faith then I will never return to the Toyota brand... Never.

Please don't descriminate against Toyota suppliers, suppliers are held to a certian specification and do what they are told. Toyota is very strict on quality assurance. Toyota has brought many jobs to all communities in the USA, also Mexico or Japan. Currentley jobs are being lost to outside vendors or suppliers due to North Americian economic issues. Mexician suppliers are being awarded buisness due to the issues that we are having, plus lower wages. Suppliers only should do what they are told and hold to the quality of the specifications. This issue is a serious issue and can effect a huge amount of American employees. Toyota will do what is right for people. You will see, they wouldn't stick a 15 year warranty on it. The comments up top about Dana, Dana supplies Ford, GM, and Toyota. All American made stamping, painted, and assembled. So, please use precaution when saying all Japanese built products. Mostly all American!!!!!

Told you guys they would take care of it before the year was up. Just backs up my urgument that they will and do take care of these issues better than US auto makers do. While it would be best to never have problems, to me it's more how they deal with it than having a problem and just ignoring it for years. Way to go Toyota.

What a bunch of morons sticking up for Toyota? Give me a break! I worked for several suppliers and the Japanese are the ones providing the specs no matter who the supplier is and in most instances the Japanese are flat out cheap. I have wondered for years how Toyota built a good car. Nisswan had the same problem until Ghosin from Renault took over and now they have some of the strongest frames in the industry so ya fool bash Toyota they specified what frame they wanted not Dana. Don't see that problem on US trucks!

Toyota had to use US built parts in order to be exempt from very high tariffs. I'm sure they now regret bowing to US demands.

I have a 2000 sr5 4x4 with 90k that is in great shape until you look at the frame. Wouldn't pass inspection. Toyota offered me $7000. try replacing it for that. I bought it new for 26k and took care of it. They told me take it or leave it.

Looks as if Toyota is going to recall in 20 states for rust but NC not included. Live in the mountians of NC and have had abut 60 inches of snow and ice this winter. Tons of salt on the road and a very rusty frame on 2001 Tundra as well as transmission failure at 125,000, front ball joint failure (front tire just fell off while driving), now rear end is going?? What a piece of junk and we are getting no help from Toyoto with any of there problems. Do not feel right about passing this piece of junk on as a trade in. Had driven Toyotas since 1979 but NEVER again. This 2001 will be the last for me!

The frames on the 2000 tundra are made by GM

@Dave A: Wrong. They are made by Dana Corp.

My 2001 Tundra was recalled by Toyota for a rusted out frame. They have had it for over 9 weeks now. They had a least 30 Tundras to have new frames put on. I stopped by the dealer yesterday and they are still waiting for frames to come in. My summer has been killed from all this waiting. I had a few jobs to do in Vermont, that have been put off until I get my truck back and I havn't been able to go fishing this summer because the truck has to tow my boat. bummer! Toyota is paying for a car rental for me while I wait. The car rental and a new frame install might cost more that the book value of the truck.

I got my 2001 Tundra back after 11 weeks. While driving home after picking it up, I noticed that my brake petal was very low and the brakes did not respond right. I made it home and took it back the next day. I told them the problem I was having. After a hour plus wait I was told that my brakes were worn and needed replacements at the cost of 400.00 plus dollars. I told them that I had replaced them 2 years prior and they workrd fine when I had brought the truck in 11 weeks prior. I didn't get a good answer on that. I told them no and wanted to think about it for a few days. I took it to my local garage and they bled the lines and ajusted the pedal. Cost 75.00. Working good and towing my boat without any trouble. I will never go back to that dealer again. Called a manager of this dealership and complained. Never heard a thing from them. Traded in my Wife's RAV4 and bought a GMC Terrain. They lost out.

I heard about the recall of the 2000- 2002 Toyota trucks for rusted frames . What about the rest of us with rusted frames ? I have a 1998 Tacoma and this is my second Toyota truck to have a rusted frame . I had to junk the other one before it's time because of this problem . I really love my truck but honestly I don't think that I will replace it with another Toyota . My truck is running great as always and has been very dependible . I am concerned about it's saftey with the rusted frame . I would appreciate your comment about this matter . Sincerely John D. Hunter

I wonder about toyota giving a rebate back to individuals that have these tundras for resale value. Who is going to buy a used tundra now???? Us folks that have them , are we stuck with them. One of the reasons we bought our tundra was for resale value and now it appears that there isn't any. Who's going to compensate us????

silly haters- my 01 tundra has NO rust problems.

I purchased a certified used Tundra from a reputable Toyota dealer. Before I took delivery they replaced all drums, rotors, pads, shoes, muffler, timing belt and water pump. Thud had 95,000 miles on it when purchased by me.

It now has. 145,000 miles on it. I got a great trade in deal for my crappy Chevy blazer, the fit and finish, ride and handling surpasses any of the big three offerings. It is quiet and tows great, the interior is not crowded with a center counsel like the other truck I looked at. I was very happy with this model year.

Many may think this is a disaster, replacing the frame. But I have seen many big three trucks scrapped because of this very same issue. Noticably dodged. I had a Ram 50 I had to scrap because the frame disintegrated and my father has to junk his Dakota for the very same issue.

I am actually happy that Toyota is replacing my frame, other manufacturers wouldn't even consider this. I have talked to a couple of Tundra owners who just recently had their frame replaced, and both said I gave their truck the new ride feel back again with no issues. My only other choise is to junk my truck. For me this is a god send.

Bash Toyota all you want, but what other manufacturer would replace your 12 year old, 145,000 mile truck frame. In the end the right thing is being done and a lot of people are not going to lose their investment because of rotted frames.

I brought my truck in and was told that mine was unsafe to drive, because of the extent of missing metal and the fact my gas tank was about to fall off. I was given a 2012 Tundra to drive until the repairs are made, tis my take a couple of months because of the amount of scheduled frame replacement ahead of me. All I have to do is bring it back with a full tank.

Whole sections of my frame has disappeared and there was almost nothing left holding the cross member that supports the rear of the tranny.

This has to cost a lot of monuments to do, so I give Toyota a thumbs up.



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