Taj Mahauler: We Drive Mahindra's Diesel Pik-Up

Taj Mahauler: We Drive Mahindra's Diesel Pik-Up

It’s been more than two years since we first heard Mahindra was bringing small diesel pickups to the U.S. During that time we’ve covered a steady stream of news about the Indian company and its American distributor, Global Vehicles U.S.A., but we’ve most wanted to know: How will these trucks perform and can they live up to the high expectations of American truck buyers?

To find out we drove two foreign-market Mahindra trucks – a left-hand drive version of the recently updated Australian Pik-Up and a Scorpio SUV – down near Atlanta earlier this week.

The two trucks aren’t identical to the rigs that will go on sale here – the two-door TR20 and four-door TR40 pickups (coming in February, starting around $22,000) and the SUV (due later in 2010) – but they’re close enough so that the single cab Pik-Up and “mHawk” diesel-powered Scorpio give us a reasonable idea of what the stateside pickup will be like.

Mahindra Pik-Up
We drove a variant of Mahindra's Pik-Up that's sold overseas. It's almost identical to the Australian truck that went on sale this month, with updated interior and exterior styling and a 106 horsepower 2.5-liter common rail turbodiesel engine. The American TR20 and TR40 two-door and four-door pickups will share the same sheetmetal and interior design elements.

It was impossible to walk up to these Indian vehicles for the first time without thinking they have to have deficiencies and wanting to immediately start calling them out. Quality, design, power, driving feel – you name it and the concern exists. What we found was that parts of the trucks managed to only live up to our low expectations, but we also came away impressed -- no, stunned really -- by how well the trucks are setup in certain areas.

We drove the regular cab Pik-Up first with a 7-foot bed. It’s powered by Mahindra’s 2.5-liter common rail diesel engine that’s rated at 105 horsepower and 182 pounds-feet of torque and coupled to a five-speed manual transmission. It’s a generation earlier than the 2.2-liter mHawk and won’t be available in the U.S.

The Pik-Up recently got a styling overhaul that’s very close to how the TR20 pickup will look, but it hasn’t lost the boxy profile and fussy design elements that gives it the distinct vibe of a third-world hauler. It looks like the Japanese imports that hit these shores during the 1960s-70s.

On the outside, Mahindra has strengthened the looks of the front bumper and given its corporate logo a more prominent spot on the grille. The headlights have a contemporary look with embedded LED turn signals. The cargo box is old school, with external tie-down hooks like the ones that import trucks used to offer, but the bed is impressively deep and wide enough, at 5-feet 3-inches, easily handling 4x8 sheets of plywood. Rain gutters around the roofline carry water away from the windshield and doors.

2.2-liter mHawk Diesel Engine
The Scorpio SUV we drove is powered by Mahindra's all-new four-cylinder, 16-valve "mHawk" diesel engine. The mHawk was developed with assistance from leading global diesel engineering firm AVL and using a high pressure common rail fuel injection system supplied by Bosch. It's rated at 120 horsepower and 240 pounds-feet of torque, though the power ratings for the U.S. version will be higher. Its six-speed automatic transmission will be unique in the American midsize/compact segment.  

The upright cab is much taller than the relatively swept-back style of modern American pickups. There’s lots of headroom for a 6-foot-tall driver without hitting the ceiling, but the greenhouse feels smaller than we’re used to because the seating position is so close to where the A-pillar meets the hood. The only truck we can compare it to is the Hummer H3T, which has an A-pillar with an even more extreme angle; in the H3T, though, the driver sits several inches farther back from the dash cowl, giving it an airier feel.

The Pik-Up’s cabin width is compact. The recent styling update gave the truck bigger seats to fit wider American backsides, but this puts you right next to your passenger. It feels no wider than a Ford Ranger, the only true compact pickup left in the market. This is not a negative: Where some truck manufacturers got the notion that compact trucks had to grow into large midsize trucks, we don’t know, but we appreciate the Pik-Up’s width in tight parking spots and as a way to differentiate it from half-ton pickups.

The tight, tall cabin gives the driver excellent visibility out of the side windows and over the hood and the rear glass has integrated defrosters. The sightlines are best in class; you always know where the Pik-Up is in relation to other vehicles and when navigating tight spots.

Mahindra Pik-Up Driver Side Interior Shot
The Pik-Up's tall cabin provides excellent visibility over the hoodline and out the side windows. Fit and finish and material qualities are about two-generations behind comparable U.S. trucks. Note the large lever to the left of the steering column that adjusts the column up and down. There are four cupholders between the front seats.

The interior is the weakest part of the Pik-Up with controls and materials that are about two generations behind U.S. trucks and that all over the map in terms of quality, refinement and feel. Door sill plates are literally no more than bolted-down plastic strips and there are several points where the carpet ends before it meets the trim pieces or flows under the seats, dash or console. A strange vertical lever immediately to the left of the steering wheel is used for tilt control instead of being attached to the steering column. There are noticeable gaps where pieces of plastic join to frame components such as the turn signal stalk and the washer levers, the upper and lower portions of the dash and the glovebox. The advanced AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio system looks very similar to the Delco units in GM cars and trucks. It also has USB, auxiliary input and SD-card ports, something many U.S. midsize trucks don’t have. The HVAC controls each felt different when turned: The mode selector felt crisp and clean while the temperature control resisted each turn.

We drove the Pik-Up unloaded on a loop that took us around Atlanta’s suburban and rural roads and the Georgia 400 tollway. What most impressed was the Pik-Up’s driving manners. Mahindra’s pickups are naturally set up to carry those crazy-heavy payloads in developing countries, so we expected a joltingly stiff ride, but the version we drove has surprisingly good road feel. The steering isn’t numb or loose, but is reasonably solid. When we turned corners or changed lanes at highway speeds there was very little body roll or handling slop. The truck goes where it’s directed with minimal fuss. As much as we beat up on the interior, there weren’t any noticeable shakes or rattles, though the small cabin had louder than average wind noise. Overall, ride quality and noise, vibration and harshness is very competitive with current U.S. midsize pickups, if not superior to some. Shocking, we know, but it’s true. This is a truck that could function as a daily driver as well as a workhorse.

Mahindra Pik-Up
The U.S. pickups will have many standard safety features including driver and front passenger airbags, four-wheel disc brakes with ABS and stability control. A four year, 60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty will also be standard.

The 2.5-liter diesel and five-speed manual aren’t coming here, but they are well matched to the Pik-Up’s needs. The motor clatters like a modern diesel, not like the third world mill we’d expected. Every shift was clean except for third gear, which requires a longer throw to the right and more shift gate hunting than we’d like. The footwells are small and pedal spacing too tight for our wide American feet. It takes some getting used to make sure you don’t hit two pedals at the same time, which we did coming to a stop, when we put the truck in neutral while accidentally hitting the brake pedal and accelerator at the same time. You only do that once before you learn the right spacing for your feet.

The Scorpio SUV is a different story. It has a less powerful version of the 2.2-liter mHawk than the U.S. will receive – rated at 120 horsepower and 214 lbs.-ft. of torque in the Scorpio versus approximately 140 hp and 240 lbs.-ft of torque in the TR Series pickups -- but the powertrain feels significantly livelier than the larger 106 horsepower 2.5-liter motor, up to a point. It’s quiet too though there’s transient engine noise that leaks into the cabin during driving. The six-speed automatic transmission (coming to the U.S. as an exclusive in the small pickup truck segment) executes shifts smoothly and doesn’t hunt for the right cog, at least on the flat ground that we drove it on, but there’s noticeable turbo lag at times. We’ll be very interested to see what impact diesel engineering firm AVL has as a key supplier and consultant for Mahindra in tweaking the mHawk to meet the performance expectations of U.S. buyers. In the Scorpio, we wish we could combine the mHawk with the Pik-Up’s 5-speed manual to improve the performance band a bit more.

The Scorpio’s interior is much more luxurious than the Pik-Up’s, with leather seats, beige trim instead of gray and fake wood accents. It also has fit issues, but not to the degree of the Pik-Up.

Mahindra Pik-Up Passenger Side Interior Shot
The Pik-Up we drove comes with a 5-speed manual transmission. The U.S. truck will only be sold with a six-speed automatic though Global Vehicles executives say a manual transmission could be an option down the road. The advanced AM/FM/CD stereo system has an auxiliary input jack plus USB and SD Card ports.

On-road performance lags considerably in the SUV. There’s considerable body roll around turns, the handling and steering feels loose and sloppy. The brake pedal takes a lot of pressure to stop the truck, and even then, the disc brakes never seem to want to grip as hard as you’d like or need them too. None of this is particularly surprising, since the arrival of the Scorpio SUVs in the U.S. is much farther out on the horizon and they’re sure to be tweaked to American preferences. All we wanted to learn was how the mHawk powertrain performed and we came away relatively impressed and cautiously optimistic.

Overall, we’re impressed with Mahindra’s four-cylinder diesel pickup truck – much more so than before we drove it. The interior has glaring weaknesses but if this truck can live up to Global Vehicle’s marketing hype of up to 30 mpg, 1.3-tons of payload and 5,000 pounds of towing ability, Mahindra and Global Vehicles will have a pickup truck like no other to sell to U.S. truck buyers. They’ll effectively be competing in a segment of one and in cases where a heavy duty diesel is overkill for the application, we think they’ll be an excellent alternative to help out on a farm or construction site.

Mahindra Pik-Up
The vertical roll bar behind the cab will not be on Mahindra's U.S. pickups. Mahindra will also add a stamped steel rear bumper and front bumper guard to the trucks as standard equipment to meet federal standards for low-speed front and corner impacts.

Comments

Amazing a truck can get people so riled and even racist and Americo-centric! If you like it, check it out when available. If you don't, or you don't like India or anything not American. stick with your 12mpg Chevy Silverado. What's the big deal? (though some of you need to be a bit more realistic; "my daddy's 350 V8 F-250 gets the same 30mpg as this little "old design" truck!" Yeah...suuure it does.)
Having said that, not everyone needs a behemouth sized, low mpg pseudo-tank. Not sure what this truck will be like, I want to see one and drive it before I decide. It does look tempting, and it sounds ideal for my needs (and the needs of many others). I like the so-called "old school" bed design with the tie-downs (why did Japanese trucks stop that anyway???), and diesel option is fantastic! Many truck owners have been beging for that for years. Personally I wish they at least offered a stick, that would have been my choice. But, if all else is good, I suppose I could live with auto. My prediction is that this truck won't kill the American truck industry (you'll still be able to get your 12mpg F-250 tank, the US government/auto industry will see to that), but it will be around a long time, as it perfectly fits the needs and wants of a large portion of the truck buying population here. If Nissan won't offer the Patrol pickup to the US/Canadian market, I'll definitely take a serious look at the Mihandra!

You are correct, no standard trans is a non-buyer for me. I have owned many small diesels. First one was 190d 1965 mdl, 4speed. great car. Next a 1981 Dasher wagon diesel, 4 speed great car, as matter of fact it had 235K when I sold it. 1983 Rabbit turbo diesel, fantanstic runner. 1881 Nissan p/u diesel, I paid 1000 bucks for it in Seattle, took it to the big Island, it was great vehicle, ran like a sewing machine. I bought an old Peugeot 403 diesel in Seattle back in 74 and that was an excellent car. But you know fellows it is the way you drive them and take care of them. I like to tinker and I would adjust here and there and tie this down to kee it from chaffing, change those filters often and keep the best oil in'em. I dive an F250 7.3 now and it has been a great truck for, so far. I have had it ten years and it still keeps on ticking, run the best oil, change all fluids every 25 k, you know brake fluid, tranny, rear ends, all that stuff. I figure I'm buying peace of mind. one thing I will not do is, loan a vehicle of mine to any one! Period. I'd like to see a CJ Jeep, with a four cylinder cummins in it, with a long bed, and keep it rough, no plastic, just metal like an M37 Dodge weapons carrier. Simple and cheap, but put a damn good heater in it. Korea in the 1st Cva div in the winter time was rough, those army vehicles had no heaters in them, well very few did.

I drove a Mahindra in Brazil, 2.5 4 cylinder diesel, 4x4 double cab, his behavior on the pavement was good, and better still on earth. His behavior on the asphalt was a little below the concorentes, but the land is as robust as the old Toyotas, here is your place on the farm! In general is on a par with Brazilian competitors such as Ford Ranger, Chevrolet S-10, Toyota Hillux, Mitsubishi L-200, Ssangyong Actyon Sports, Land Rover Defender 130 and the new Volkswagen Amarok. It is the pickup category with the largest number of sales in this market, and Mahindra is here to stay! Here in Brazil we have many different types of terrains and climates, we have the Amazon which is a region of dense tropical forest, have the wetland is an area that flooded half of the year, there are deserts with very high temperatures and very cold in the south during winter, we have regions of mountains, large cities and many beaches and this truck behaves the same way in Brazil, is a dynamic truck!
Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations for the area.
I write from Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil, the Brazilian capital of trucks!

... I forgot to mention that the Mahindra also competes with the Nissan Frontier, besides the other trucks mentioned above, and in Brazil a truck in this category cost (value already converted to Real from Dollar) 30,000 to 60,000 dollars, give thanks because they can pay so cheap for a truck this category, it is almost possible to go to the United States of America to buy a truck and import in Brazil, costs less, but much tax to do it! Here in Brazil the common is the manual transmission, the automatic transmission is used only for models imported or special needs people! In Brazil also prohibited the use of diesel in passenger cars, being restricted to trucks with 4x4 traction and reduced transmission or big trucks! The novelty in the category of trucks is that the engines can use two fuels, ethanol or gasoline and can use 100% ethanol, 100% gasoline blend or both in any proportion, but the Mahindra still uses only the diesel engine. The flex technology for cars is very old in Brazil, but for pickup trucks, only Chevrolet and Mitsubishi engines use these flex technology, 100% gasoline, 100% ethanol or you can also mix the two fuels in any proportion. The next mark to manufacture trucks with this technology are Ford, Volkswagen and Toyota. Nissan, Ssangyong, Land Rover and Mahindra also not expected to produce trucks with this technology that grows every day in Brazil. For large trucks is only available with diesel engines, and only two brands produce large trucks in Brazil, Ford (F-250) and Dodge (Ram 2500), the first with 202cv and second with 330cv.
Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations for the area again.
I write from Campo Grande, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil, the Brazilian capital of trucks!

when starting sale small truck in 2010 which months.

Can anyone just make a little compact 4 cylinder 4x4 automatic gas engine truck that isn't a ranger? geez!

Give this thing 2 refreshes from its US launch after it listen to customers and it will be on par with any small/mid-size truck available in America.

I like this rough and tumble truck and I am not a truck guy. It will haul heavy loads making it ideal to tow race cars up the grapevine without breaking a sweat.

This truck is small enough to get around where large tucks won't and out tow or haul any small or mid-size on the market now or in the foreseeable future.

Yes this what American companies should be doing, but GM shelved its 6.2L Common Rail TD about 8 months ago. They feel there is just not enough demand for it.

I hope Ford doesn't make that mistake and bring a 2.0-2.5L TDI here, they already have them in Europe.

I can't wait to see those trucks in person! I feel 80% I will get one, and the main reason is that I have been waiting for a small diesel truck for a long time. If nothing else, I will buy it just to support the First company with guts to bring one to US.
It is pathetic that Ford,GM VW all sell small turbo diesel trucks overseas that are great and with great gas mileage. Why the hell can't we have some here. It is about time!
GO Mehindra!

All I want is a small diesel pick-up like the old Chevy LUV or Isuzu PUP with a manual trans and small 4 banger diesel. My old Chevy LUV got about 38 mpg and it had 430,000 miles on it when I sold it.
It should sell for under $15K, I don't need all of the bells and whistles, I need a work truck. I would rather have rubber mats instead of carpet. Doesn't anyone just want a truck instead of a Lexis with a bed.

Doesn't Mahindra make tractors? People in the USA been asking for a compact diesel in America for years. I believe early Chevy s10's and ford rangers had a diesel options for a few years. I read the TR are going to be made in a Navistar/IHC plant. Other countries have had diesel and other cool compact/kei trucks, but do to the 'chicken tax' they can't sell them there. Were do I buy/test drive one? To bad the stick/manual will not be in USA. This is the first time I really seen the 2 door, most things I read on it shows the 4 door. So what engine/transmission(s) will the production USA versions have?

I was lucky to drive the last available Mazda B-2200 diesel PU off the showroom floor in Seattle 25 years ago. It's still reliable both as a commuter and occasional hauler, and gets great fuel economy. But I've been waiting in vain for any U.S or foreign company to make or import a small diesel PU as an ultimate replacement. I'm another who doesn't care where such a vehicle comes from or what it looks like. If the TR20 generates enough interest to get other manufacturers off their duffs--especially our Big Three--then I'm all for it. Can't wait for my test drive.

how neat--controls 2 generations behind u.s.a. cars--that means they will work for 26 years - not 3 years until the warranty expires

Well after a heap of reaserch I bought a dual cab pik up.
I picked it up from Sydney on Monday.
Its the first of the 2010 models.

Firstly driving in afternoon traffic I couldnt get comfortable and there are not lots of places to put stuff.
These days we need water bottles, phone, sunglasses and other spots for wallet and change.
They could have done a bit of homework!
Aussies like a centre console with a box or two.
The door pockets are useless and you cant access them whilst the door is closed.
The car dosnt have grunt off the line and is almost embarassing, I had to rev up and slip away at a set of lights on a hill.
A truck with huge steel pipes beat me at the light.

Once on the freeway things changed a bit and the car is excellent.
Just 30 minutes into my 4 - 5 hour drive the air stopped flowing into the cabin. The temperature was 38c and if you have ever been to western sydney, its humid.
Down with the windows.
The car was better on the longish hwy drive through to the Snowies. The Hwy is a bit choopy here and there and the pikup was better than any other 4x4 Ive had exept Range Rover.

I used the car the next day and then all this week have used it on bush tracks and local roads and its excellent.
Still lacking the low down power.
It also has a bit of turbo lag, on loose gravel hills it seems to be sluggish on take off and then wooosh the rear wheels are spinning, then into second and it dies. Its a real problem and thats without a load.
Well yesterday I drove about 100klms to a farm and realised there was a fuel smell.
Once there I looked under and it was just pouring out from the engine bay.
Fuel had blown along the underside of the car and all the black underbody stuff has washed off.
Cant see that this will be good for longevity of rubber grommets and covers arouns clutch slave cylinder or rubber mounts etc.
I think diesel fuel would start to break down rubber pretty quikly.

Ill keep you all posted. Ive sent photos and emails to the dealer.

This is awesome. I wish American companies would make something like this. Who cares about fit and finish of the interior? I want an affordable diesel powered four wheel drive pickup for utility and a relatively short daily commute. Heck, get rid of the carpet too, who needs carpet on the floor of a vehicle, much less a pickup.

Mike
please let the mahindra folks get a dealer listed for Alaska,
I did sign up to test drive this truck, I am a travel nurse and I drive from Alaska to florida
Im ready for something to haul "MY Stuff" for 30mpg.

I'm pretty skeptical of those payload and towing numbers. Just looking at the pictures those leaf springs seem a lot smaller than the ones in my truck with a similar payload rating. And are we really expected to believe it can pull 5000 lbs up a hill at highway speeds in a fashion comparable to trucks with similar tow ratings? It gives up 60hp to the ranger and has less torque. Compared to a Colorado or the Dakota its even worse. And since the diesel has a lower rpm power band (normally a good thing), so when geared the same you can't downshift as far as a gas engine. In fact, diesels usually use their increased torque to a lot them to be geared higher (numerically lower) while gaining net torque at the wheels.

I notice Mahindra's spec sheet doesn't say anything about gearing or engine RPM's.

http://www.mahindrana.com/pdf/specsheet.pdf

i would like a book on these trucks.please.send to 1030 county road 202 piedmont,alabama.36272

I would LOVE to buy an American pickup truck with a 3l-class turbodiesel and a class III box hitch in a compact frame (enough to tow a motorcycle), that gets around 30mpg highway. Kindly provide me a link to such a vehicle and I'll make an appointment for a test drive.

I'll hold my breath.

ps: my 1987 MB 300SDL gets about 27-30mpg on pure highway cruise control. I just can't get a box hitch for it.

I would've liked to see the 4.4L diesel in an F-250 personally, provided that it didn't cost 5k over the baseline V-8 as I expect it would have.

I want one but how is the leg room for people over 6 ft

Hi Guys; Ive got a 2010 dual cab with a tray back.
It is brilliant. I dont know if its a cheaper build than others, Ive had a mazda bravo, its all the same.
The truck is a little less punchy down low, but it has plenty for me.
I drive the back roads at higher than average speeds and its best on fast rough dirt roads.
Ive had it in mud, its better than a Hilux.
The springs and shocks are heavy duty and the truck is not skittish on rough and corrogated corners.
On the freeway its well mannered sits on hwy speeds and runs sweet.
Fuel econonomy is better than they claimed.
Funny thing is, the first 2,000klms the truck was a bit doughy, but after a few thousand klms its going better, I didnt think that it would free up, its like the old days when they where built tight?
Anyway, its a great little truck!

it is ugly no one buy it but maybe nerd buy it

This Truck looks like toyota and datsun put together will nissan wheels. But it is going to hurt the american made trucks.

The only reason that this little truck will be in a class of its own (which I will probably buy, I have a 100 mile commute daily and 30mpg truck is better than 30mpg garbage can) is America's EPA/CARB and the Big 3 are in bed together fleecing Consumers.
When will the EPA figure out the diesels made globally after 1995 are 10x cleaner than "Your fathers 1980 350 Diesel Oldsmobile" and loosen restrictions. There is no reason there isnt 30 mpg TurboDiesel f150's, 35+ mpg TD Rangers and 70 MPG TD Vw polo driving around this country.
I have proof the EPA/CARB is a fraud.
2005 Excursion V10 = 10 MPG, CA says LEV
2005 VW Jetta TDi = 40+ MPG CA says TOO DIRTY?
How can it be dirtier than something that burns 4x as much fuel, especially when you consider that since low sulfer diesel was introduced in the mid 90's that todays #2 diesel is pretty much half and half "the 1980's #1 and K1 Kero."

I think its a really neat looking truck, the only problem is the U S is building riding mowers with 28/30 hp and are a lot better in the wind tunnel than this wild mouse they call a truck.

I wish to know how to contact dealer
803 581 3241

MAY 2010.....Any chance that this truck will ever hit US shores??

I have a question qnd I was wondering if the steel and underbody is treated to handle the winters we have here in western ny. The roads are treated with salt in the winter and eat up steel. Anyone know?

@john: Count in these things not being able to do anything out of the ordinary for a normal unsuspecting Indian consumer. Count on bad crash test safety, poor quality/craftsmanship, part availability issues, poor resale value, and Mahindra eventually pulling the plug on the venture.

I used to be very excited about this light duty pickup coming to America, but now I'm just flat out disapointed for two reasons. the first being it is going to only be available with an automatic, it seems to me that if your in the market for a diesel, a manual is the only way to go! better fuel economy and it would just be more stout. The second is that it has independent suspension. Again, a solid axle and diesel go together like peas and carrots! These two reasons are definitely a deal breaker for me. I was really hoping for a diesel that could fill in for my dodge Cummins when i didnt need the BIG truck. Well, I guess I'll just have to wait till another company comes to America with what i need. It's just kinda frustrating because I'm sitting in Iraq right now watching Iraqis drive my perfect light duty pickup. To bad I wont be getting a sweet light duty diesel second truck when I get back.

junk, junk, junk, junk. don't buy this. it's junk, junk, junk, junk. It's junk. HEY, did you guys know it's junk? junk.

Not against the new little trucks, I wish the "Big 3" would get off their duffs and offer something similar... BUT doesn't the top picture look like the frame is bent behind the cab? The bed front looks higher than the back? Maybe just an optical dillusion, we'll have to wait and see one in person!

What about the cost to fill up on urea? A urea fill-up for a Mercedes Benz Diesel pretty much negates the improved mileage. Would it be something that could be done aftermarket? The MB is a dealer only proposition, thereby making it necessary to live near a dealership. The car will not run when the urea tank is empty, for the sake of the pollutants that might be produced to get you home, or even off the roadway.

FYI, the Toyota X-Runner comes with a 6-speed manual standard.

I have seen them in my town in Texas where manufacturers typically drive two cars around for testing purposes. The first time it caught my attention for the look but I can assure you we all can get used to the look. I am interested to actually test drive one, they seem to be workhorses.

As typical, a lot of really stupid comments, comparing apples to oranges. I don't know anyone who thinks they are going to get a new, comparably equipped f150 for $22K. All trucks in the US are wildly bloated in price. I can't believe mahindra is going to come in high on price. it is stupid. i am willing to bet there is a GIANT market for a cheap truck THAT IS HIGHLY CAPABLE AND WELL BUILT that has very few amenities. I laughed at the metrosexual whining about "the feel and look of the plastics". I couldn't care less, as long as it is ergonomic and doesn't fall off. Why can't I get a 4x4 truck without bells and whistles that will haul and tow a reasonable amount, stay glued together with reasonable use/maintenance, get reasonable mileage and sell reasonably cheaply? Partly because of all the momma's boys who need cute plastic and the govt to be their mommy/daddy. Pffft.

I will never buy a foreign vehicle! I am going to buy a compact turbo diesel AMERICAN truck!....... wait. What? You're saying they don't make those?

I am in the US Army stationed in S. Korea and I constantly salivate over all the little diesel 4x4's over here. I Currently drive a '97 Kia Sportage. It is a intercooled turbo-diesel 4x4. I paid $1600 for it and I would give my left nut to be able to bring it home. At home I have a 89 Toyota 4x4 with a worn out engine in it and was looking into putting a little diesel in it. I have been following the Mahindra for years now, and would entertain buying one if they ever get here.

Why can't America built a solid little no frills work truck anymore? For ten years I drove an old Ford 3/4 4x4 with an inline six in it. My mom always said "I hate that truck, it rides so rough! You should get something else" I always say to each his own. When I sold it it had 500K miles on it. Same engine, same clutch, same BRAKES!

US manufactures can't get off the bigger, faster, more luxurious bandwagon. Have you ever gone to the manufacturers website and used the "build your own truck option?" Try doing that and waking into a dealership and telling them that this is what you want. They will laugh at you. Has anyone ever wondered why Jeep Cj's command such high prices? because they don't make real Jeeps anymore. Why are Suzuki Samis worth more now than new? Same reason? Why does an old Toyota Landcruiser cost 30k? Again, same reason.

But alas, I am certain the US will find some way to cut Mahindras legs out from under them. Safety, emissions, import tax, tax incentives for US vehicles, etc. By the way, I have a degree in economics and international trade, so I feel that I have more than just a passing knowledge about this.

THE EPA SAY'S 19/21 MPG FAR FROM THE 30 MPG ...

THEY NEED A 10YR 100,00 MILE WARRANY TO GO WITH IT.

AFTER ALL THE TIME WAITING AND ALL THE PROBLEMS I STILL WANT A TR40...

THANX

A.J.

@Intelpilot and the range is going to become dramatically better and more competitive in the next few years.

Will the Mahindra pick up be available in 4 wheel drive?

i am a farmer from hill station wants to know configration of mahindra pick up vehical in below 6 lces budget which vehical is best cell no-09814106480

when chevys, hondas, toyotas, volks wagen, renault etc etc came to india we never made a mention of them being american or japanese or german or them taking our money out to japan or germany or france. and most of these cars are assembled from kits manufactured in europe or america. those of us who liked them went ahead and bought them depending on our budgets and tatas owning jagaur and land rover doesnt make them inferior automobiles! We get almost all cars here from ferrari, rolls royce and porche to volkswagen and suzuki hatchbacks and the new tatas and mahindras which rolling out compete well with their european or japanese counterparts. both have r&d facilities in europe and consult european firms when need be. and most of the auto giants across the world outsource some design elements in their cars- pure economics involved rather than nationalities. Bosch for example doesnt manufacture cars but are world leaders in automotive technology in many areas and most of the automobiles across the world carry Bosch designed components in them. I have a mahindra and a volkswagen jetta and love both of them for what they are. german or indian i dont really care! In the end all that matters is making a smart choice and the pleasure we derive out of our automobiles. and as a matter of fact diesel technology has improved way faster than petrol in the past decade, thanks to european and japanse technology(read CRDi) diesel motors today are far more efficient,compact and more powerful than petrol and they pollute less too.

And evrybody in the world is outsourcing in one way or the other! US europe and japan are outsoucing their workload to india and china and we in india and china for exapmle are outsourcing our technology needs to US europe and japan. Globalisation is a reality and there is no running away from it!

I hope this truck is still on the way,I have not seen any advertisements yet. I have given up on toyota coming out with another small truck again. The older Tacomas are selling like hotcakes because the average Joe cannot afford the new BIG Tacomas price or gas. Can't wait to see this new truck,I will probably buy one.

certainly not a pick up "pretty" but it's a pickup that does the work, the diesel engine despempeño says a lot of these vehicles closest to the Europeans,
these are set in the consumer more in comfort, purchase a vehicle, thinking to have many years working in all conditions rather than on the exterior design itself,
A diesel pickup in less than 10000? we be serious please, just the engine costs more than 6000 dlls, we know how much a cummins diesel engine? we know how expensive the diesel engine in a dodge to pick up exactly the same but of gasoline? dode know how much does a diesel?

pls sand me indian price 4, mahindra 4*4 dubel dor pik up



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