Ford - good job supporting Los Angeles County Firefighters Widows and Orphans Fund. Nice truck.

Mike,
Here is a strange question for you. Does Ford or any other oem offer a dpf delete package so it can be used on brush rigs without starting more fires. It just does not sound safe to put a 1000+F dpf making contact with dry grass.

too bad it has that horrible flamethrowing pile of junk engine in it

"Does Ford or any other oem offer a dpf delete package so it can be used on brush rigs without starting more fires. It just does not sound safe to put a 1000+F dpf making contact with dry grass. "
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. I think you're mistaking regenerations with the DPF. When the DPF see's a differential pressure build it will go into a regen to burn off the soot that's causing the D/P. Regens now only occur when the vehicle is in motion at 30mph or greater. When not in regen the exhaust is no hotter than any pre-DPF diesel. So unles these trucks are barreling down some brush at 40mph while in regen, it's a non issue.

"too bad it has that horrible flamethrowing pile of junk engine in it"
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This just shows how ignorant you are. First off, the very early 6.4L were the only ones that ever did that, and about 3 cases of flames were ever reported.
2nd, this engine is completely new and shares nothing at all with the 6.4L. This is an in-house built FORD diesel, no International help on this one. Just go away troll

Notice the link on rdub's post. If anyone should have their posts approved/denied before posting it should be that bozo.

Ryan,
If I understand correctly, a vehicle can go into regen mode at slower speeds if the engine rpm is high enough. That is why the trucks have a high idle feature. Otherwise the dpf will fill up while idling. I could be wrong. Sorry if I am.

Does Ford now offer NFPA compliant seat belt / seat occupancy sensors, NFPA mandated vehicle data recorder? Or is this just for show purposes?

Why can't ford stick with something tried and true like the old international 7.3L? They ran that engine for 10+ years and it was great. The 6.o is junk the 6.4 not too much better and now that have a new one. there is no time to work out the bugs and produce a good engine. Look at dodge...it had basicly that same B series Cummins since day one beacuse they stick to what works and it is reliable. Just my opinion.

regeneration process can be very hazardous in the bush or farmland. dpf might not be as hot when going slow but still very hot and can easily start dry grass on fire. can't blame ford for that though,all three trucks use a dpf soot filter/furnace. CUMMINS is the only one that won't need to use UREA fluid (DEF/SCR) sytem on their new trucks as they geared up for the 2010 emission laws back in 2007 ,using EGR and soot filter only, way to go Cummins. As for FORDS new 6.7L Power Stroke engine.....yikes brand new FORD built engine BE AWARE this engine has more emmision crap on it that has not been proven at all yet. wait for your pal to buy one and loose his hair over recalls/updates not to metion long down time when it braks due to lack of knowledge at the dealership level. Buy a V10 gas engine if you have to have a Ford . If you need diesel engine for work/towing CUMMINS rule for real tough work andDURAMAX is good for highway tow vehicle but a little light duty (suspension/torsion bars/ IFS) for back road towing or hauling.

Is this the old 6.4L engine or the new Ford built engine?

I would want to see it in person if it is the new Ford built engine.

Fred.

Any American fire vehicle is made to NFPA standards and is done by a professional fire apparatus manufacturer not the maker of the truck itself, they are conversions. You can find the same fire truck with Dodge or GM cabs. At Indianafiretrucks.com you will find dozens of Ford,GM, Dodge and Jeep mini pumpers, grass rigs and pick ups with skid units.

As for the dpf, firefighters are trained to fight the fire from the black, or burned side. Exhaust temp isn't an issue. It will not regen except at highway speeds, and can operate in idle for a long time before needing a regen cycle. It also doesn't shoot fire out the exhaust. Besides, all diesels have higher exhaust gas temps with the new engines. That's why the radiators have gotten bigger and some cabs taller. It is a non-issue for FD and rescues.
Colored seat belts, red & orange, are offered by Ford for F750s down. Seat sensors and VDRs are available from FRC and others, so that isn't a problem.
Money is the main issue. If a dept has $500k for a wildland engine, that's OK. If they've got $125k, then its the Ford or other 19000# truck.

The specs say there are 2 pumps on the truck, and they tout the "Live Drive PTO" in the new transmission as a critical component. Can anyone tell me what type of pump (capacity, drive type direct shaft or hydraulic pump) is used off the Live Drive? We are looking to build a Mini-Pumper and I am getting varying information from different upfitters.
Thanks.