Ford Announces 2011 F-Series Super Duty Power and Pulling Specs

Ford Announces 2011 Super Duty Engine Power and Pulling Specs

After holding our breath for five months, Ford has finally released the official power ratings for its 2011 F-Series Super Duty pickups. They are very impressive.

The all-new 2-valve SOHC 6.2-liter gasoline V-8 is rated at 385 horsepower (at 5,500 rpm) and 405 pounds-feet of torque (at 4,500 rpm), and the all-new 4-valve OHV 6.7-liter Power Stroke V-8 turbodiesel is rated at 390 hp (at 2,800 rpm) and an earth-shaking 735 pounds-feet (at 1,600 rpm) in the F-250, F-350 and F-450 pickups. The F-450 and up chassis cabs are rated at 300 hp and 660 pounds-feet.

Let's put these powerful numbers in perspective.

For the gassers, the outgoing 2010 Super Duty's standard 5.4-liter gas V-8 is rated at 300 hp and 365 pounds-feet, and the optional 6.8-liter V-10 is rated at 362 hp and 457 pounds-feet. So the new 6.2-liter V-8 has more horsepower than either of the old engines and just misses splitting the difference in torque between the 5.4-liter and 6.8-liter, with two fewer cylinders than the massive 6.8-liter.

We can also compare the 6.2-liter V-8 in the Super Duty against its application in the 2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor. The 6.2-liter V-8 in the Raptor is rated at a larger 411 hp and 434 pounds-feet.

The power numbers are larger in the light-duty pickup for two reasons, according to Chris Brewer, Super Duty chief engineer.

2011 Ford F-450

"The main reason is that when the truck goes over 8,500 pounds [gross vehicle weight rating], the SAE [horsepower and torque] rating method changes," Brewer said. "We can't get the same horsepower and torque out of it [like we can in the F-150].”

The 6.2-liter V-8 in the Super Duty also uses a different camshaft from the light-duty version, which, some may recall, is the same approach Ford uses to make 500 hp in the FR Raptor XT version of the 6.2-liter V-8.

Before we compare the old and new diesel power ratings, you may be wondering why there are two sets of power figures for the 6.7-liter diesel. Again, gross vehicle weight rating plays a role.

The Environmental Protection Agency requires different emissions testing procedures depending on the gross vehicle weight rating, which leads to different power ratings. So-called "heavy-duty light trucks" below 14,000 pounds GVWR are tested using a chassis dynamometer; medium-duty vehicles whose GVWR is 14,000 pounds or greater are tested using an engine dyno.

Comparing the oil burners, the old chassis-certified 6.4-liter Power Stroke diesel V-8 is rated at 350 hp and 650 pounds-feet, so we're seeing a substantial jump in power by 40 horses and 85 pounds-feet from Ford's in-house designed and built 6.7-liter V-8. The dyno-certified 6.4-liter is rated at 325 hp and 600 pounds-feet, or 25 hp more and 60 pounds-feet less than the 6.7-liter.

"We're real pleased about the numbers for the new gas and diesel engines," Brewer said. "It's a big win for customers and us."

Brewer also broke down the 2011 Super Duty's new towing and hauling capabilities. Last week, GM announced its new 2011 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 and 3500 pickups would have best-in-class towing and hauling, pending the release of Ford's numbers. Ford is now claiming those numbers and bumping them significantly higher over the 2010 Super Duty.

The F-250 and F-350 single rear-wheel trucks can tow up to 14,000 pounds conventionally and haul 4,050 pounds and 4,500 pounds, respectively. The F-350 dual rear wheel is rated to pull 16,000 pounds conventionally and up to 21,600 pounds using a fifth-wheel hitch. It can haul payloads up to 6,520 pounds.

Maximum towing requires a standard 3.73 or optional 4.10 rear axle. For those interested in prioritizing fuel economy or looks over towing, the Super Duty can be ordered with 20-inch wheel s and a 3.55 final drive ratio or a tall 3.31 ring and pinion, which was introduced as an option in 2010.

2011 Ford F250

As we mentioned in our first look at the 2011 Super Duty, Ford has made significant frame changes to the F-450 pickup in response to owner requests for better fuel economy. The result is a lighter truck with a double-digit percentage improvement in fuel economy, and it tops out at 13,050 pounds GVWR for 2011 versus 14,500 pounds GVWR in the 2010 model. Maximum towing is 24,400 pounds, down marginally from 24,600 pounds, and maximum hauling is 4,920 pounds, down from 6,100 pounds.

The F-450’s top speed has also been raised. The old 19.5-inch wheels have been dropped because their tires were rated up to only 80 mph. New 17-inch wheels and tires raise the 2011 F-450’s top speed above 90 mph. The two-wheel-drive version has also been dropped. The F-450 is only available with four-wheel drive.

All the towing and hauling improvements are due to the new gas and diesel engines and all-new six-speed transmission, Brewer said. The frame and suspension components are virtually identical to the 2010 Super Duty lineup except for the F-450, which we noted earlier.

The 6.7-liter diesel also uses a unique approach to staying cool while working hard to help increase the numbers. It has two separate cooling systems, each with its own radiator and water pump. The primary cooling loop cools the engine while the secondary loop controls the temperatures of the exhaust gas recirculation, fuel and transmission coolers and a brand-new air-to-water charge air cooler that replaces the previous air-to-air intercooler.

In the future, we'll be interested to check back and see if Ford's towing ratings change once the proposed SAE J-2807 trailer towing standards are ratified by an alliance of truck manufacturers that includes Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota and Honda and several leading trailer and hitch makers.

Quick Heavy Duty Comparison Chart

"We are actively involved in the SAE Trailer Tow Committee that is developing the J-2807 standards," Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said. "Final revisions to the standard are in progress with a ballot vote planned for this quarter. The standard will be implemented by all OEMS starting in 2013 [model year]. Ford's current plan is to follow in that direction at that time."

With all of the power and pulling improvements, Ford hasn't left fuel economy out of the equation. "For the pickups, we'll see an 18 percent improvement in fuel economy and 25 percent in the chassis cabs," Brewer said.

Brewer didn't provide specific numbers since HD pickups aren't required to carry EPA fuel economy ratings. We'll take his word for it until we can test the trucks.

We'll be driving the new Super Duty pickups soon. We can't wait to share our first impressions next month. Also, we'll be waiting to hear GM's horsepower and torque figures for the new "LML" 6.6-liter Duramax V-8 diesel to see if Ford will hang on to it best-in-class engine ratings.

Comments

Those torque and HP look good, until you run out of Urea that is (snicker).

Or when you run out of diesel. Oh no! You have to put fuel in it!

The day I am ready to buy my truck I’ll test-drive a bunch of them, read as many reviews as possible, look at the hard numbers and make a decision. Falling in love with a particular manufacturer will lead to a bias decision on that critical day. If you think that being loyal to any particular manufacturer is one of your strengths, you are unwise. Wakeup and value your choices. Make those manufactures work hard for your money.

One more thing… Go Ford!

JK

don't get happy to fast maybe you get a surprise .....lol,,,don't forget ford always put is numbers to high to look good,just wait guarantee a surprise from gm..

wow they use some gm 4,5 diesel tech...

The day I am ready to buy my truck I’ll test-drive a bunch of them, read as many reviews as possible, look at the hard numbers and make a decision. Falling in love with a particular manufacturer will lead to a bias decision on that critical day. If you think that being loyal to any particular manufacturer is one of your strengths, you are unwise. Wake-up and value your choices. Make those manufactures work hard for your money.

One more thing…
Go Ford! … JK

I don't believe in Ford anymore!!!

Quick point - The 6.2L has a lot more wiggle room that Ford can improve on if they need to bump up the HP/TQ. Like any Ford motor in the last 10-15 years they always start at a base and continue to improve on the numbers. Look back at the 5.4 and 4.6 for comparisons from when they first came out to the end of production.

Second I am happy as a Truck fan in general that Ford raised the bar... again. We all know that a Chevy might be the truck to take a date out on Saturday night with but if you want to get the real work done it takes a Ford. This will make Dodge and GM step up which will cause Ford to raise the bar again. No matter which brand you are a fan of this is a good day for everyone.

What, no manuel transmission in a heavy duty pick-up? Uses urea, no man stick,dual cooling system, all new engine, This new diesel will have to run strong and reliable for years before it can claim any status in the HD diesel market. Duramax engine will rule in power and reliability over ford but the same no manuel transmission and extra cost/mainenance of the urea fluid system. Cummins looks good, has manuel and no urea. Sure the power ratings are lower on Cummins but it has all you will ever need for pulling power and hauling huge loads. Gas engines just suck.

Glad to see that Ford is offering a dually with a gas engine again. I hope the others will follow suit for those of us who want the extra stability of a dually without the 6+ thousand diesel option or need that much pulling power. I really wish that more attention would be paid to the transmissions and look at the possability of an automatic 2speed rearend. Just look at what the road tractors and medium dutys of yesteryear pulled with less motor. Rv's fit into a different catagory, in trucks once you hit 26,001 pounds you need a CDL so once over 17,500 pounds on towing it really doesn't matter (for anything other than bragging rights) unless you have a CDL due to the weight of the truck . That said I must say the diesel power wars are cool though.

Congratulations to Ford, after the last 12 years of having their f-150 4x4's spanked by 4.8 litre vortecs, and retribution to the thousands of f-250 owners whose 5.4 blew the bottom end's or spark plugs out they finally can offer a engine that approximateslightly better the specs of the 6.0l GM which has been around about 6 yrs. now(even longer if you count lower HP spec'd versions).
I wonder how LONG the 6.2 litre dual timing chains are? 5' each?? Anybody 's guess if this engine will have the production longevity that rivals the soon to be forgotten 6.4L diesel .

The new 5.0 and 6.2 are currently using standard fuel injection but have been "future proofed", the blocks have been designed to be switched over to direct injection. I am sure in the next 2-5 years Ford will switch over to the direct injection. That will be a pretty major power boost with minimal cost/work.

Just FYI Ford did not kill the V-10 Gas, It is the only gas engine available in F450 & F-550 Chassis cabs. No 6.2L is available is those.

I'm sorry - I'm a big Ford fan, but if you need 735 lb-ft of torque you'd be better off getting a Kenworth.

I would like to think that in the near future the V10 will return using this engine as the base. Basicly what I mean a 6.2L with 2 extra cylinders on it. But isnt the 6.2L only a 2V so if they make it a 3V that would make all us Ford fans alot more happier. I also think that the desiel numbers in the Duramax will be higher since Ford showed thiers first. But I think if the 6.7L is a good one then they will bump up the power to 400HP & 750Ft. Lbs. of torque. But thats just my opinion. If gas mileage is in the low 20s then nowone will think about the less hp & tq but time will tell.

i must say i am very pleased with the new engines. isnt it amazing how spoiled we have become with diesels and how far those engines have come along? i mean who REALLY needs this much torque???? but o well, its crazy. GM will probably boost their numbers up a little bit now so they can say their diesel is more powerful. but thats how it goes. cant wait for the shootout!! also, when ever ram decides to amp up their engine, GM and Ford will prob be playin catch up the cumins again

@bobby1971 - Are you "BOB"s" fanboy? how is my post killing this thread?
Back on topic - the power these trucks are generating is amazing. It's interesting how most people don't realize that you'll need a commercial licence to legally drive any of these trucks at their stated capacity. This whole towing, hauling, HP, torque war is silly at best. Good for bragging rights.
Like Snowman had said in another thread, the power of the trucks made in the last few years are more than adequate to get the job done.

Hay Frank and Lou, if Ford's new diesel and gas engines are so great than why won't they accept GM'S challenge to a tug of war??? Why? because they are a bunch of pansies! that's why! What a bunch of cowards Ford is. GM is better and Ford is always trying to one up GM. Ford is obssesed with GM and what GM offers or is doing.

@Bob - they all try to one up each other. I don't recall saying Ford's new engines are great. Time will prove/disprove their greatness.
You should get together with Oxi and go to "Fanboys Anonymous".

"Hay Frank and Lou, if Ford's new diesel and gas engines are so great than why won't they accept GM'S challenge to a tug of war??? Why? because they are a bunch of pansies! that's why! What a bunch of cowards Ford is. GM is better and Ford is always trying to one up GM. Ford is obssesed with GM and what GM offers or is doing". - Bob


Wow! Oh man this person is funny. The best uneducated question I ever heard. Keep posting, I'm eager to read what you will say next. Here is you're precious GM truck breaking Tie-Rods trying to tow. You're right GM has FORD beat in the inferior suspension department.

Bob,
Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHJR0IqqKkc

The best just keeps getting better.I hope government motors chokes on the fumes.

I figured that No smart person want's to comment or reply to dumb posts from ford guy and frank.

Ben- too bad you cant handle the truth.

Wow! Impressive stats on this new super duty. Looks like another home run for Ford. You Chevy and Dodge boys now have permission to drool!

@ Dan, when has ford hit a home run with their diesels. Drool over an aged ford body , i don,t think so. Look at the new Dodge HD Cummins truck, that is something to drool over.

Snowman, if all you're doing is drooling -looking at pics on the internet, then all you need is body style.. The new Dodge is fine for that. It looks sleek and modern. I like the look of it. But if you're actually going to drive one and use it for what it's made for, then engines, chassis and seating comfort are more important. That's where the Ford comes in. Yes the door skins look a little old now, but overall I honestly think it's the best truck overall. Looking forward to the heavy duty pickup truck shootout on here!

GM can do and say all they want! I'm sick of the Gm attitude and advertising comparring there trucks to Ford and saying Ford just isnt enough!
AT LEAST FORD IS RELIABLE NOW! AND DOESNT HAVE TO PROVE IT--- NOW! Problem is for people like me is, I was Stung by GM. And I for one will never buy one of there products again!! They didnt stand behind they're product then, and what's to say they'll stand behind it now! $35,000 -$50,000 is alot to invest in an ADVERTISMENT! I was a GM guy for years! My family OWNED 3 major Ford dealerships here in NH, and I still bought GM, until I needed a work truck,(ala 2500HD Diesel!) I was stupid and bought 3 of them for my Landscape business! NEVER AGAIN! BEWARE OF THE LIES OF THE ADVERTISER! Ford doesnt compare themselves to GM! They don't need to!

@ alex, Don't worry i use my Cummins for heavy duty use all the time, tow a 12,000 pound trailer all the time. As for engines Cummins can't be beat. Have you seen the new crew cab Dodge, huge room and comfort. Frame and chassis are very strong on HD dodge. I guess you are not up to date on the new Dodge interiors and as far as you sayying engines are important and thats when Ford comes in, All i have to say is 6.0L and 6.4L power stroke Already being replaced by yey another attempt at a reliable diesel. My HD trucks(have Cummins and Duramax) have to be reliable and able to get my companies work done and i rely on them for my bread and butter so don't imply that i don't use them for what they are built for, probably got more miles behind a HD truck than you and most of the wanna be truckers that post this site.

Had a 2008 6.4L power stroke, after a huge amounts of problems, including a new engine i finally sold truck. Never will i buy another Ford Diesel truck again. It will bee a couple of years before we know if the new 6.7L diesel will bereliable or not, pitty the first guys who buy this new engine if it is as bad as the former 2 diesel screw ups.

Very cute Snowman. You drive a pickup and you call yourself a trucker. That did make me laugh.
Yes Ford is replacing a diesel they outsourced with one they are making themselves. It would be like Dodge dropping Cummins because they know how to make their own. Maybe the next one will be a Dodge diesel? Or Fiat... Or Cummins...or Ram?? Yes I have sat in the new Dodge 2500 at the auto show. The funny thing is, i thought i was sitting in the 1500! I told my wife we were sitting in the Dodge half-ton. Very sad for Dodge!
Maybe I should exaggerate like you and put "all the time" after every claim I make.

Marty,

Ford doesn't have anything to prove ?!?

This is the 3rd different diesel Ford has had in the last 5 years. The first two were junk, and i wouldn't want to be a guinea pig for this new 6.7

Ford has alot to prove, Like if they can actually build a reliable diesel engine or not....

Ford has been making diesels in Europe. What makes you think this diesel is no different.

700 ft lbs.( or so) of torque isn't squat. If you want to tow BIG go buy a semi,(why,even a single axle) with a Detroit or Cummins in it which don't even break a sweat to make 1000-1400 lbs. torque. A good used one probably cost less than a fully loaded queens ranch ford dually, plus you won't have to change rotors under warranty (try 300-400k on your shoes), suffer severe down time while some "dream type" experimental diesel is faltering in ur new truck, plus you'll have air brakes for stopping"real" loads.

@madman281 - you'd need a commercial licence, and in some jurisdictions, a separate air brake endorsement.

Madman, go buy your semi. Let us know how it works out for you.

I don't really need a full size truck even though that's my preference. My wife prefers a semi and she needs it. I have read many complaints about people having great difficulty parking their full size truck. No problem with the semi. My wife can just drive the semi over every car like on Beverly Hills cop.

By the time everyone gets past the euphoria and the adrenaline rush of their new 700ft lb. super joke experimental diesel, loyal LONGTIME cummins and duramax owners will have racked up another 100,000 miles on their current trucks that are 5-8 years old now.( AND PAID FOR!!) HA!
I thought the 6.4L P.s. was supposed to be the new crown jewel that would power their f-250/350 sereis until the end of this millenium ? Hmm, I'd bet the 6.7 will be in the same (sinking) boat shortly.

LOL! all these ford fans excited to get ahold of their "made in Mexico" diesel! Who proclaimed those guys expert diesel engineers/developers/assemblers?.
What a bunch of hypocrites , the same (ford camp) bunch that nicknamed duramax a derogatory name because they were made in Japan are all bowing down and kissing the ground waiting for their new king to cross the border from Mexico! HA!
When was the last time a Mexico product of importance came into the USA that couldn't be eaten or soaked in salsa?

madman,
Stop with the straw man arguments. I don't see anyone complaining about a Duramax being made in Japan. The factory is just located in Mexico. The engineers are not by say Mexican. Although there might be some fine engineers with Mexican roots at Ford and any of the other makers. Some Toyota are also made in Mexico. Stop being racist.

@madmax, I'll assume that you're not aware that GM builds some Silverado and Sierra pickups at its factory in Silao, Mexico.

"@madman281, I'll assume that you're not aware that GM builds some Silverado and Sierra pickups at its factory in Silao, Mexico". - Joe

His IQ score is the size of his shoe. I take his comments with a grain of salt. Laugable at best. Thanks for the laugh!!!

FYI the Duramax is made in Ohio, Not Japan.

Blah, blah, blah this is all meaningless until Mike is able to publish his new HEAVY DUTY shootout. That will give us some idea of what they are really capable of.
Ford has some ground to make up vs GM. I'm sure they've made that up and then some, but the question is do GMs improvments make a real world diff? The Ford getting the 6th gear alone would make up much of the gap.

I suspect Ford will pull out the gasoline victory. But who knows? The Ram's 5 speed kills its Hemi.

Well look at me! I'm blabbering too. Mike hurray with the article!!!

Why hasn't GM released their new power numbers yet? Answer: Because GM's numbers are lower and they're trying to hurry up and improve their numbers to try and beat the best, Ford.

well, Ford's numbers are impressive... but, im still not to sure about this "new diesel motor" that they put in there pickups... i still think Catapiller should be doing for them instead of them trying one for themselves... they had too long of a bad history of there pervious diesels motors to carry on like this.....just to be on the safe side...
i know for a fact that Catapiller would be the king of the diesel motor market for Ford if they would let them build them.....in fact it would force GM and Dodge to go back to the drawing board and build a new pickup from the ground up....and i mean a totally new pickup....

@ BradR Catapillar exited the on-highway engine buiness. They certainly won't come back for a currently un-profitable truck segment engine.

Navistar had a heck of a good rep back during 7.3 days too. But that doesn't gntee anything.

Its not all that hard to get 390 hp/735 lbs-ft out of a Duramax, I think the real story is that ford thinks their new transmission will hold up behind it. Where as even mild tunes will shred a stock Allison if you run it hard.

Enjelus,
Allison is the strongest tranny out there for HD's.
Best tranny
#1Allison
#2Fords
#3dodges

Best diesels

Duramax and Cummins
(powerstroke never made the list for the last 8 years)

A quick search on a popular online motor search page for used pickups showed, although FORD sells say something like 10-20% more overall trucks than Chevy, theres exactly TWICE as many used (2004-2009) 3/4 ton Fords for sale. (344 ford f-250 to 170 Chevy 2500)
Allright Ford diehards , explain them apples with a honest straight face.



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