Ford Transitions to New Transit Van

Transit II
By G.R. Whale

As part of Ford’s global convergence, the full-size Transit van sold in Europe will be built at the Kansas City, Mo., plant in 2013 as part of the plant’s $1.1 billion overhaul. The van will co-exist with the E-Series for a while, but eventually the Transit will replace the E-Series entirely.

Now in production for more than 45 years and with sales of more than 6 million units, the Transit is the best-selling van in the segment in Europe and the United Kingdom, and it’s sold in a wide range of configurations: front-, rear- and all-wheel drive; single-rear-wheel or dually; three roof heights; four lengths; and sold as a van, passenger minibus, cab, and chassis and cutaway chassis.

If we read between the lines correctly, the U.S. will get the rear-drive model initially, and an all-wheel-drive option may be added later.

Ford says the Transit will offer E-Series capability in a package that is at least 300 pounds lighter (which derivative was not specified) and get at least 25 percent better fuel economy (the highest-rated E-Series vehicle gets 13/17 mpg city/highway).

Ford says it is proud of the Transit’s ability to hop curbs in Europe — a common practice among delivery drivers — but the company will have to test for durability for American curbs, which are substantially larger.

Overseas, the Transit is offered with 2.2- and 2.4-liter four-cylinder engines and a 3.2-liter five-cylinder common-rail turbo-diesel and a standard six-speed manual transmission. The 2.2L ranges from about 100 to 155 horsepower, and torque measures about 285 pounds-feet, while the stoutest 3.2L could bring 200 hp and 350 pounds-feet or more. Certifying a 2.2L diesel could make it usable in the Ford Focus, C-Max, Fusion, Transit Connect and F-150; in lighter-duty trim, it could generate 200 hp and 325 pounds-feet of torque. We also learned the Transit will get the 3.7-liter V-6 of the F-150, and with similar weights to haul around, it should make close to 300 hp and 280 pounds-feet of torque.

We're guessing the Transit should make its formal debut at the 2012 Detroit auto show or 2012 L.A. Auto Show.

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Comments

Body on frame, body on frame! unibody is good for cars (as well as body of frame) but not for heavy haulers. Also please do what nissan did and put that nose up front!

@EagleXYZ - I can't see why unibody isn't a good idea for a van. A van, unlike a pickup, does not have an open box. This would make it structurally as sound as the current E - series. The only negative would be the chassis cab market. Ford would have to come up with a configuration that meets that market. That is most likely why Ford will keep the E-series around until the end of the decade.

The soundness of the structure has little to do with it. It's the durability and ease of repair that's truly the issue. It's much easier and less expensive to repair damage to body-on-frame vehicles and they handle abuse much better. Tweek a frame on an E-series, one can have it straightened for a couple hundred bucks. Tweek the sub-structure on a unibody, forget it.

Sad, the panther cars are dead, now the E-Series Van.
The F pickups are really the last Ford vehicles with real American DNA.

The above Van with stripes does not look that bad. No Ecoboost option?

How will they make motorhomes in the future, with trucks? They make motorhomes now with the truck chassis but they look kinda funny compared to a van

I'm not surprised that Frank is pretty much the only one that likes this turd.

Foolish
Rubberhead
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Small Motorhomes 23-25ft built on a VW Crafter and an earlier Ford Transit. The Crafter is from a Rental Company.
http://eriksfjord.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/0716-dual-cab-motorhome-mt-isa-qld.jpg?w=640&h=480

http://eriksfjord.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/1201-twin-six-berth-winnebagos-busselton-wa.jpg?w=640

@Robert Ryan

Good links, if they bring those, those might be able to compensate the market in the future, but I still hate the stubby nose on all vans which even though I don't like nissans, that front nose really is a life saver for both customer and mechanic.

This is not what the new van will look like. This is the old version.

@Dave
Spy Photos of New Ford Transit.
http://www.trucksplanet.com/news/photo/1316599848.jpg

http://www.trucksplanet.com/photo/for_news/2011sept/spy_transit/transit_8th_04.jpg

From the website.
" It turns out, that Ford already being testing a new generation of Ford Transit. The new car is a global project, because it should replace not only the European model, but taken out of production in the U.S. Ford E-series also. The new generation Transit will be equipped with a 2.2 and 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engines, as well as 5-cylinder 3.2-liter diesel engine. The photos shows you new body of the van."

Needs bigger tires, big beefy chrome bumpers, a bigger front end and a lift.

o is this vans and gay pickuptrucks.com now? is there goin to be any reports about TRUCKS LIKE CHEVY RAM OR FORD the real trucks america's backbone hello?

Make it like a westfalia and it would be a great camper!

Some of the same fools who said the ecoboost would be a failure.It looks like ford again is way ahead of the game.

The option of all wheel drive or 4 wheel drive from the factory will be great for the contractor who needs to get into a muddy job site or a delivery drivery who doesn't have to put chains on and off.

The low load floor will make it alot easier to load and unload as well as make for more load space.

This will be the only van available in the us with a dually option so you know this van is going to be yrs ahead of other vans just like the ford trucks are now.

Just like the truck market is now the ford van will leave gm ram and nissan wondering how ford keeps stomping there ass's.

Ford is thinking into the future while gm and ram keep falling back on old technology and looks.Just another well done job by ford to corner the market on about anything they make these days.

I would not worry about unibody vs body on frame. Either can have issues if abused or have design oversights. I work on Sprinters as part of my job and seeing those roll in with 500,000 to 600,000 miles with no structure issues. Any body shop worth bringing your truck to will be able to handle a unibody without any more fuss than your body on frame vehicles.
@paul-Sprinter vans are available with duals here as well but you can't fit 4' sheets between the wells in that configeration.

And Ford must put a diesel option on the table if they expect to stop Sprinters slow but steady market share gains.

The 3.7L will make a fine engine for this Van...But I think the 5.0L and Ecoboost could also be used here.

pile of junk tin box, nothing impressive here

As part of Ford’s global convergence, the full-size Transit van sold in Europe will be built at the Kansas City, Mo.

This statement is a bit missleading , yes the Transit may be built there but it will also Built in England , Turkey and Belgium and possibly other places too.

and as for this...
@Dave
Spy Photos of New Ford Transit.
http://www.trucksplanet.com/news/photo/1316599848.jpg

http://www.trucksplanet.com/photo/for_news/2011sept/spy_transit/transit_8th_04.jpg

From the website.
" It turns out, that Ford already being testing a new generation of Ford Transit. The new car is a global project, because it should replace not only the European model, but taken out of production in the U.S. Ford E-series also. The new generation Transit will be equipped with a 2.2 and 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engines, as well as 5-cylinder 3.2-liter diesel engine. The photos shows you new body of the van."

this is not a ford. It is either a Vauxhall/opel or a Volkswagen. MS Southampton , England

@Dave,
The Transit will be built in Turkey and assembled in the US and a few other places.
From that Website. I know it looks like a Vauxhall, but they posted this.
http://www.trucksplanet.com/index.php?id=403


From another website and it looks very similar.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L4iL7ZWayig/TpAvWEtkKZI/AAAAAAAAK28/AG5XfEyCuG8/s1600/2013+Ford+Transit+1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BdDBXa6GBFw/TpAvfWBRObI/AAAAAAAAK3A/yclD58Hcke4/s1600/2013+Ford+Transit+2.jpg

I live here in Europe, and the Ford Transit is everywhere here , it's a mountain of rust. Not everything from Europe is good.
It's a rusty can

@Maurice- I thought the same thing- it sees shaped more like the Opel than the Ford. RR's pics show a pretty clear oval, however. That makes me think it is indeed a Ford. I hope the new one doesn't lose features like the bottle holders and dash-top bins. The IP in the current Transit really has a space for everything.
GM won't be far behind- the 610 Van is from '95. I'd expect them to do much like Ford and offer a Global van along side cut-away 610 vans.

I have owned body on frame cars and really like them!

I dont like the unibody on cars and dont think I will like them on trucks!

Just hope they offer the v8 engines as well as the v6s!

Think the first ecolines in the 60s were unibody!

Will it have a PTO option off the transmission?? That's all I care about. We run Sprinters specifically for that reason in our lawn care business. We mount our yard spray pumps in the van and run them off the pto shaft drive system with a belt drive. If this doesn't have that, forget it. We used to have to run loud messy Briggs/Kohler etc. engines for that stuff. Now it's just a quiet van and a pump. No noise, no smell and no mess. We'll never go back to anything else. So Ford, Chevy - If you're listening please keep this in mind.

Mobile car wash companies, lawn care companies and many more NEED this option. In fact we Want to run More pumps but the Sprinter pto can only handle a small load. We really need a good 50 HP worth of reliable power transfer. That would make up for (2) 25hp Kohlers like we ran. We used to run Only Chevy or Ford vans. The Sprinter won us over with this feature in a regular load truck. We did Not want to have to step up to 4500 and up series large trucks for this. They are too big for our needs.

@Mike- interesting. I didn't know the Sprinter had a PTO feature. I've seen lots of GM and Ford carpet cleaning vans with PTOs, but to my knowledge, they were never offered from the factory.

You people that keeping screaming for body-on-frame are the same ones that complain about fuel injection and pine for the days of carbs. Astros and Safaris were unibody with a front sub-frame and they worked very well in many configurations.

The full size van segment is in desperate need of some new product and this is positive news. Unless of course you want the fullsize american van to go the way of the compact american pickup. Ie. dead and irrelevant.

Looking forward to the new van Ford.

This transit Van has room for Bob FATASS, and his FATASS BITCHES!!!

Thanks chad .I diden't know the sprinter was available in dually form.Thanks for the info.Its nice to talk with someone on here who actually acts like they have a brain.

Why do any of you think the next Transit is an Opel/Vauxhall or Volkswagen? Because the styling is "similar?" Ford has been selling the Transit in Europe since the early 60s, and is commonly either the sales leader or near the top, so I don't see too many reasons for Ford to just rebadge a competitor's offering.

@Mr Knowitall You can clearly see the "Blue Oval" on the second set of photos.

@Luke in CO I cannot understand why Ford is now copying the style of Opel/ Citroen etc.

Peugeot Van
http://www.vansdirect.co.uk/files/car-image/peugeot_boxer-cheap-van.jpg

Opel Van
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2007/11/opel_vivaro_vpc.jpg

Those worried about unibody not being a heavy-duty design for hauling should do a little homework... every city bus and long-distance motorcoach made in North America has been either monocoque or unibody for the last 80 years. Crawl under a Greyhound... you'll see subframes at the axles, but no full-length chassis rails. The GMC-developed RTS city bus, the mainstay of NYC and Los Angeles for most of the 80s and 90s, has a welded unibody design and a GVWR of 36,000. Sounds pretty strong to me.

@Robert Ryan
I can't understand it either. I lived in the UK for a while, so of course I saw vans everywhere. The FIATs and French vans were shocking in their ugliness, like Nissan NV ugly. The Fords were plain, but unoffensive.

@Paul
For the record, GM full size vans have had option of all wheel drive since 2006. Yes, many contractors do use them off road.

These things are almost as ugly as the, egg-shaped, Toyota Previa. Marginally better looking than the Nissan NV.

"BOB"'s comment regarding alleged rust is purely nonsense written by an (i assume) guerilla marketeer on behalf of a competitor afraid of that FORD Transit Van. If it would be a rust-bucket it wouldnt be the top selling van in all Europe. There are still many many old FORD's on the road. They are rugged solid tuff vans.

The most interesting thing will be to see how well these hold up in crash tests. With there not being a frame and a bit more sheet metal up front, I would be curious to see the results.

On the looks of this vehicle, I like the ones in the photos, it looks like it could make for a nice replacement for anyone who normally buys a truck and puts a cap on it anyway. If the prices are right, I'd even consider it.

@Lou and Eagle XYZ posted
'We DO Get body on Frame with the Transit.
http://www.lpgfords.co.uk/images/Transit-chassis-cabs-35-sml.jpg"

The vehicles shown are unitized construction.

As to the concerns about durability, these vehicles are on the road in countries (like Turkey) where overloading and abuse are the norm, Transits tested to North American Van standards did very well.

I CURRENTLY DRIVE A 2010 E350 WORK VAN,LOADED WITH EVERYTHING THAT FORD HAS TO OFFER,WHICH ISN'T MUCH COMPARED TO OPTONS IN OTHER VEHICLES IN THE FORD LINE-UP,POWERED BY A V10. THIS IS MY PERSONAL WORK TRUCK,I'M IN IT ALL DAY.
I LOVE THE TRUCK,I LOVE THE ENGINE,I CARRY 3000 POUNDS OF WORK RELATED STUFF ALL DAY,AND EVEN PULL A TRAILER FROM TIME TO TIME.
MY LAST VAN WAS ALSO AN E350 BUT WITH THE 6L DIESEL,THE ENGINE WAS A HEADACHE.
IM JUST WONDERING IF THIS NEW,UGLY VERSION OF A FORD TRUCK WILL GET THE JOB DONE.I WOULDN'T PARK IT IN MY WORST ENEMY'S DRIVEWAY. WHAT THE HECK IS FORD THINKING.
IT WON'T BE MY NEXT VAN,THAT'S FOR SURE.
RICHMOND HILL ONTARIO CANADA



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