Spied! First Shots of 2014 GM Interior

Silverado Int Spy 2 II

It was bound to happen. Long, hot days spent in the summer heat — even if you're doing something very cool like hot-weather testing full-size pickup trucks — is bound to make you a little sloppy. Thankfully, it didn't make our spy shooters sloppy. As soon as they saw an opening to sprint over to a waiting test truck and snap a few photos, they took it. Here's what they had to say: 

"We've nabbed the first shots ever of the 2014 Chevy Silverado's interior, and we caught it completely undisguised. These shots have been a very long time coming, with numerous unfruitful attempts at getting a glimpse of the new truck's dashboard, thanks to the heavy interior camouflage regimen employed by GM engineers — up until now, that is.

"The Silverado's dashboard is a definite improvement over the outgoing model. The design has a greater feeling of precision, and a feeling of improved build quality. The material quality of the surfaces also looks to be a marked improvement over the current model. The display screen on this prototype looks small, but there's no telling which trim model makes up this test truck; a larger LCD screen is likely on higher trim packages. The center stack has an interesting row of buttons at the bottom, which appear to operate somewhat like toggle switches; however, it's difficult to make out the functions contained within the switch array."

We'll have to wait and see if those GM engineers give us a chance to see other trim packages with larger displays. Until then, this looks promising. 

Silverado Int spy KGP a II

Silverado Ext Spy II

 

Comments

@Gary

You can look at the full size pictures on Motortrend's website. It's pretty obvious that it is not padding. It's definitely the same soft touch textured plastic they use in other GM vehicles, especially cuvs like the Traverse and Equinox. The latter even having the "Airbag" embossing in the same spot and a similar overall layout.

Like others have mentioned though, it's likely a lower trim truck, possibly even a W/T trim (and in obviously ill-fitting pre-production guise). High end trim interiors will likely be completely different.

It's wrapped in vinyl, look at the fit and finish, it sucks. Then campare it with new Chevy cars (flawless interiors) you think Chevy will screw it up with its best selling vehicle? I'm sure it's a base model, but it's not the finish product.

Actually I am waiting for the Chinese version of the F-150 copy that we saw on this website a view months ago. I am sure they have a Silverado version as well. They can pass the savings onto customers and have everyday savings the Walmart way.

GM, the time has long passed to fall on the sword.

I am going to wait for Toyota Tundra's redesign since Chevy's are cheap, RAMs have bad rear ends, and Fords catch on fire. Maybe they need to let the Chinese design and make the American trucks since they are all crap according to all the comments on this website. At least all the Tundras are made in the good old USA in the great State of Texas in San Antonio and not in Mexico. Remember the Alamo.

@Sandman4x4

I've seen the interiors of all the cars you listed. This thing looks like none of those.

I really, REALLY hope this is just a work truck dash or a cover... Because this thing looks like they went "Hey we need some different inspiration for this truck. Hey I know- let's base it off the Express' dash!"

About the only thing they seem to have gotten semi-right here is the guages. The rest just.... Looks poopy. Especially the right side. What the hell happened there?

I think GM has went a little retro with this design. I can see a lot of the basic shape of the 86-87 models. I also see some current Ram coming through in that center stack. I like it. I also like the fact that the dash pad is one piece from the driver side all the way to below the glove box and not a mash up of different trim pieces.

Also I would bet this is a mid level LT. It is 100% not an LTZ (no dual zone climate). Some things of interest too are that this truck has heated seats which would be awesome option that untill now has only been available in high end trucks. Also either GM is taking a page from Ford and ;offering two separate center consoles for bucket seats or this is a fold down armrest/console. That is what I believe it is. Also that really looks like a cup holder right at the end of the driver door arm rest which would be an excellent spot for one.

Looks like a hi resolution screen in the gauge cluster too and where the display screen is in the center stack looks like it can house a huge nav screen.

I like it. Looks better than what they have now and appears to offer what the competition does and then some in the midlevel trucks.

what a joke! GM are you out of money again?

Ram Rules!

this truck has cheap all over it,its to european lookin plus its stupid because they tryin to make it look rich with cheap materials the older trucks were awesome the pat three models have just been awful

looks damn good ford and ram boys are trolling hard cause the know this is a low end work truck trim and it looks better then their mid level trims. Chevy kicking ass and taken names.

That has to be at least a mid level model or higher and not a w/t, if you look at the top picture you can see Rear Parking Sensor Buttons on the bottom of the center stack, What appears to be heated seat buttons and the sunvisor that is flipped down on the drivers side has lights and a mirror. The steering wheel also has alot of buttons by the drivers hand and the rearview mirror has the onstar buttons. These items are not even available on a w/t or LS package.

have any of you gone down to a Chevy dealer lately? and seen the int. of the new Chevy's? the new Mallibu? or Crewzs?

@Sandman, my daughter has a 2012 Cruze. Love it by the way and I will agree the interior is pretty good. Best small car interior Chevrolet has ever had. It could use upgrading but I know it's an old design. That said, I'm not impressed with the new Malibu at all. It's quality is better (not great) but the design is just a bad one. The new Impala looks to be a winner minus a few details. It will probably be their best new interior yet. However, I'm not in any way impressed with this. I don't like the design at all compared to the Ford F-150 or Super Duty or the Dodge Ram. The materials also really seem to be subpar even for a base work-stripper model.

I think everyone's displeasure comes from the fact that the Ford and Dodge (appear) to be so much better in terms of looks and quality. And being the Silverado is GM's biggest selling vehicle and has been lambasted for their poor interiors for the last 14 years, people were really expecting them to knock this one out of the park. Especially to hold off Dodge from taking over their #2 sales spot. I'm sorry but I find the Dodge far more appealing. The dash, the center console, the floor shift etc.. The materials used and fit/finish on the base Dodge model just looks nicer as does the Ford. It's almost like a truck getting hammered for the last many years about having 250 horsepower while it's two competitors have 300. Everyone expects the new model of that truck to one better the other two trucks and crank out 325 or 350hp this time. And then to see it may only be 250hp again in a real let down. I'll reserve final judgement until the full product is released but it doesn't look good. They had the time and the money to do this truck right. The first one done right in a long long time. This should have been a No Excuses truck with absolutely nothing held back or skimped on. We shall see.

It actually doesn't look too bad. I don't think this is a high end model. If this is the bottom it's not bad at all. Gauges look good.
Looks better inside then my 04 E-250 does.

For all you GM haters its ok we get it, no brains to think with. So just keep you 5th grade statements to yourself.

This used to be a fun site to visit, but not anymore.

Look the last Picture you ill see the rear weel-wels is square again ...... And wtf with that interior sorryy GM you lost me and i will stay with my 97

That's about as plain and boring you can get, it looks like they focused 100% of interior effort and resources on the center bezel lol. Well at least they made my truck's dash look better I guess.

GM should fire the interior designer big time!

Wow, dated looking.

This is more than likely an LT. As much as I say it's 100% not an LTZ I will say it's 100% not a W/T. I do think it's probably a pretty much "plain" LT instead of an optioned out one however.

It does have some things that are not an option on current LTs (or XLT Ford's for that matter). The one that stands out to me is the appearance of heated seats. As for the parking assist, I'm pretty sure the government is mandating that every new vehicle sold as 2014MYs has to have a back up camera, and for right now atleast (2013MY) in a GM truck the only way to get a back up camera is to have rear parking assist. So that could be standard equipment. Also, the truck has single zone, manual A/C. That's a sign that it's a "base" model LT, and not a well optioned LT. And one last thing, the truck does have a display screen, it does look small (but no smaller than Ford's new for 2013 screen in XLTs) BUT every 2013 vehicle GM makes has atleast a 7 inch color touch radio as standard equipment. So I would almost garuntee that they have something like this as standard on LTZ and atleast optional on LTs.

Some other things I noticed on the exterior is it looks like they are going back to split head/park lights, which is probably my favorite thing about the new truck. I love that look and it's basically how I've grown on with Chevy trucks. There was no mistaking a Chevy truck from 1988-2006 for another brand and I am really excited that they are going back to that.

Also, has anyone else noticed how big the exhaust pipe looks on that truck (highly unlikely considering all the typical GM bashing)? That is noticeably bigger than the current 5.3, and atleast as big as the 6.2 (but the 6.2 comes straight out the back and not behind the rear tire). That is interesting.

WHO NEED THIS GARBAGE INTERIOR! :)))))))))))))))

YOU CHEVY JUST JOKE,RIGHT? :))))))))))))))))))

My thoughts.. The interior is ok for a base model. I sure hope that's not what the Silverado Outlaw or Scottsdale's will look like though. I see nothing King Ranch nor Platinum about that picture at all. I see a base WT,LT? (I'm not sure of their trim designations) or Cheyenne.

Interior aside, they also need either a larger tire or a smaller wheel opening. As it sits, the whole thing looks off base with those large dead spaces and small wheels. They also desperately need rear fender liners. The back dead space looks really bad as it's not black like the front. I do like the front end though. It looks like the 90's trucks but a little larger and modernized. I loved those trucks! My old Silverado was a pleasure to own back then.

"I have never purchased a truck based on the dashboard"

@SouthernIlMan, I understand your mindset but interiors are a huge factor for me personally. I spend so much time in my truck that if things were not pleasing to the eye or touch, I would have to buy a different truck. Outside of their eye pleasing exterior design (IMHO of course), I think Ford has built their modern house so to speak based on their truck interior packages. Going by this picture only, I could not trade my Platinum F-150 in on this and go back to driving a Chevrolet truck again.

While I'm not completely impressed with this interior, it is certainly a step in the right direction. A couple things to take into consideration. 1. This is a pre-production truck, so that would include the interior. 2. This picture is most likely a low end trim level, as it looks like it has bench front seats. Not to mention that they have finally moved to the vertical air vents on each side of the center stack. The knobs, buttons, and radio can all easily be updated without having to completely reorganize the entire dashboard. As I said, certainly a step in the right direction.

Interior is so so. I agree it's a step in the right direction but that's not saying much either. That just shows how bad Chevy trucks really were. They needed go far above and beyond on this truck and I can't say I'm too impressed. And those wheel wells are awful! Who's idea was that? I agree with a few others that said the front end looks more like the 90's and ya that's good but damn, the sides of this thing looks like those 70's-80's boxy trucks with those huge square cut outs. Those were horrible. And on this it looks like some kid took a jigsaw and just cut Massive square sections out of 2 pieces of metal front and back then they plopped little round tires in the middle. Forget about the interior. It's the damn wheel wells that ruin this truck. What the hell is in the water at their design center? The sides of this truck look just terrible. How does this stuff make production?

Can't take a pic and get the real thing, will have to check one out. It looks very different and puts the Ram to shame with its made in china look but will have to compare it to the only truck that gives GM trucks a run for their money, ford. It will be only 2 buyable trucks next year for the serious truck buyer, fords and GM's, nothing else comes within a mile. The poor people will still have the Titan, Ram, and if you have no money, no brains and love humiliation the tundra.

How does this stuff make production?

@NateN48, one could ask the same of the current truck. How did those big flares make production? How did the rippled sheetmetal over the rear tires make production? The Silverado has been one failure after another design wise since 2003 and up. This looks to be no different. I agree, the square cut outs look like crap.

The 73-87 trucks are some of the most popular trucks GM ever built. So are the 88-98 (if not the most popular). IMO they are clear similarities from those two trucks designed into this one. At least it sure looks that way through the camo. Once it comes off and if people still think it favors those two truck styles this thing will be wildly popular with the GM crowd.

I think it looks fine. You have to realize this is a prototype not a production model. They're using fisrt article parts and refining part fit up. The center stack looks good but I would love to see the gauge cluster and info display.

This is what happens when you wait so long to do a refresh.

As these things get closer to production and more spy shots leak out I'm seeing this as more of a refresh to the 900's and not really a clean slate new truck. Overall shape, though smoother on the sides looks about the same, the major exterior components, lights mirrors, door handles all look to be in about the same places and same dimensions. I'm hoping for something more under the hood, love my 5.3 and I've tricked it a bit for trailer pulling but could use a little more help from the factory. Stayed away from the Max as I couldn't justify the extra $$. Still disappointed that my 2011 came with rear drums, it looks like they fixed that, thank goodness. No truck in the 2000's should have rear drums. I've got mixed feelings, not sure I'll replace my current truck when the time right with another Chevy.

I have had at least one copy of all the Chevy truck body styles since the big box of look of the 70's to my 2011 GMT 900. My favorite hands down was the 400's, when they came out in 1988 they were total game changers, revolutionary and risky. They put GM trucks in the lead for a decade. After that they (GM) gave up on being truck innovators and moved to an evolutionary not revolutionary stance. The 800's were a letdown, ok trucks but not what the 400's were. The 900's had a lot of promise but looking at one you can see all the corporate cost cutting that held them back from greatness. I think the 900's had all the potential to be what the 400's were but a broke GM couldn't swing the deal. The 400's at the end did need a refresh, but somehow ever since then the magic is gone, I think GM is afraid to lead. The 400's 24 years ago were the last clean slate start from scratch truck design GM did. I don't think the 14's from what we've seen so far are going to move the mark much. I'd like to see them start over as they did in 88, reboot the Chevy trucks. Keep the seats from the 900, borrow the dash styling from Ford, give it an aero treatment as important as the GMT's 400s were at the time. Give me v8 power to rival the Hemi, and offer a package called the Z-71X For Z-71 Extreme to compete with the Raptor, put a Corvette motor in it and let the good times roll. :)

Yuck. With light duty trucks becoming more mainstream lifestyle vehicles you would think GM would put more effort into creating character in their interior. And if this is just the "base" interior then shame on them for spending double the $$ on development efforts. Looking at the camouflaged exterior looks like they will have overly huge square wheel arches too. This would be a great design for the HD line up but if they want to capture all of us running to the big orange box store on the weekend to pick up plastic lawn ornaments that interior is a FAIL. Even a redesigned Tundra or Titan will steal sales; RAM and Ford will crush them. Well, in saying that, I'm sure there's a lot of sales to be had to the US Gov't fleet.

what is up some some of you dudes. posting under 100 different names and saying the same thing.

JUDGING BY THE PICTURES IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG IMPROVEMENT OVER THE LAST CHEVY INTERIOR CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE PICTURES AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE NEw CHEVY TRUCKS.

This is not the "real dash" If you look at the embossed airbag place it is not real distinct. Also if they are skipping the Texas Fair, do you think this just happened along to be shot by someone. Relax this is not the dash you are looking for!

I have seen much worse dashboards. They could copy the dash of that International Lonestar in the next article that dash doesn't look half bad. I would have to drive a vehicle for a while before I could judge whether I like the dash. There is more than looks, there is also how easy it is to use the buttons and switches and how easy it is to read the gauges and speedometer. A dashboard can look nice but not be very user friendly. As for hard plastics they all use hard plastics to some degree. I had a 73 Chevelle that had hard plastics on the doors and dash but it was a base model (not even a Malibu). If you don't want any hard plastics you need to buy something no later than 1969 and then you will have metal panels with maybe vinyl panels. If this is a base model dashboard then it is ok but if this is the high end trim then I would agree with many of you. Most of the base model dashboards and doors are not that nice but then get what you pay for.

Pretty nice. Hard to judge it by couple of pictures, but it looks very nice.
It's probably an LT interior, judging by bench seat. If it is, it looks like it will come loaded with features.

Those interior pictures are not of the truck in 3rd picture. By looking at the mirrors this is most likely a HD truck. Aren't they do for redesign in 2 years or so? In '14 as 2015 model year?

The 400's at the end did need a refresh, but somehow ever since then the magic is gone,

@Silverado Driver, I agree with you on that completely. Most of your post there actually but that line is dead accurate.


@Matt, I too liked the 73-87 Chevy's. Only in 4x4 trim though. I think they look tough with beefy tires and I still hold till this day it's one of my favorite off road trucks ever set up like that. While my tastes have changed and I prefer the round wheel openings like Ford and Dodge have now I can still appreciate the old boxy Chevy look. These wheelwells though do look a tad overblown though the more I see them. And without the beefry tires in there, it kind of doesn't look as good as it should. I dunno, I guess we'll have to see it finished. I'm in the camp they should have gone the route of the 400 meets the 67-72's instead. Wheel liners would definitely do wonders to the back end of this thing. When Dodge did this big open fender look in the 90's I think it's the liners out back that really helped the truck look proper.

@BigRoy, Most of these guys here are legit. Some spammers for sure but many regulars. I think if you take a look at other websites on the subject of these shots you'll find much of the same opinion posted by many. I'm thinking GM really might want to fix a few things before launch here. I'm one of the few Ford guys who'd actually be happy for Chevy to knock this one out of the park. To see Chevy find their 'magic' again as Silverado Driver mentioned would bring a smile to my face. I grew up on Chevy's ya know.

I think GM has really accomplished something here!!!

For the first time in history, everyone (except johnny doe) from all brands is united in the same opinion. EVERYONE agrees that this interior is lousy...

It's not the W/T dash or the high end. I think we all know that they will not be puting this one in the Tahoe, Burb, LTZ or Denali.

I've never been a fan of the control "POD" look from the 80's. I think the one piece look has merit and flows better than the multi-piecemill look the others have commited to, but I like less complexity for easy usability/less distraction.

The testers did not attempt to block the photographer in any way? The previous sightings were covered but not this one? Sounds like a controled leak from GM PR guys. Why?

I don't need more holes in the console behind the cup holders. The current console is fine for business use and doesen't get filled with clutter as this one surely will. Keep that space under the lid GM.

All of those above that are saying this is the basic truck dash are wrong. There are too many features/options installed in the Nav/HVAC/Radio area - unless GM is finally opening the options sheet up. If you view the Automobile pictures, you can make out the rear parking sensor button, the adjustable pedal switch, and the heated (and possibly cooled) seat buttons on the visible part of the dash. Seems to me to be a LT or LTZ dash that has a fake dash pad covering up what GM doesn't want us to see (seems kind of funny that all of a sudden the door opens to the spy photographers). Get real and stop moaning over a slight show by GM. Wait until the full reveal is made and when people can sit in & touch the materials for themselves. Sheesh, too many people are quick to jump the gun here!!

By the way, I'm impressed by what we've been allowed to see lately and can't wait for more!

@Blueoval

Dwindling huh? 267500 in sales is dwindling? They have sold less than 15000 less total trucks than ford. Get real…

@truckinman

Read again, I don’t care if the Dash is better or exterior design, just give me good looks and functional. Would it be nice if it was better sure, but as long as the rest of the truck still is better than the others your decision shouldn’t be based on the beauty of it, if that is the case why not buy the truck that best fits your purse??? Go ahead and buy a Ford, have fun trying to keep your engines reliable. F150 designers could have done a lot of good by letting the mustang designers build their engines, detune a few of their engines and they would be bullet proof like the GM’s engines…

BTW truckin, did you not read a previous post of mine, I would buy either truck if they both look good to me, than it is which one is optioned the way I want it and priced best. Lately the GMC has been a little better looking pickup, but the Tahoe is the better looking SUV. I buy which one I like better at that time, no preference here…

If you guys want a floor shift you should probably be driving a car…

Some of you might be right, it might be a cover. Looking at what they have done with their other models it is very possible. Plus what they show is the padding covering part of the vent when you point it at the seats… If the exterior is still so covered and they are in public without tinted windows, why wouldn’t they also cover the interior? We will have to wait and see to the public reveal I guess, atleast this probably gives a good idea on the center stack which is pretty neat. Also maybe they are going to offer two dashes again? Who knows, no one here works there or has seen the finish design so maybe stop with all the talking?

GM is going to have quite an impressive portfolio in the years coming few years. New full size trucks/SUV’s, redesigned large cross overs (Traverse/Acadia), new corvette, new CTS/ATS (plus they got the green light on a large 7 series competitor), new rear wheel drive large sedan off the G8 platform (SS), redesigned Camaro in 15 or 16, impressive Malibu/impala, new small cars, new Colorado, then a new re-designed small cross over (equinox/terrain) which are already tops. Hello 2013+ GM!

Tyler=GM apologist. You go ahead and just keep things functional. Mediocrity on looks, quality and design on a truck that can sell north of 60 thousand dollars is pretty sad. It's pretty sad on a base model that sells for 20 grand.

And F-150 engineer's letting the Mustang engineer's design their engines? Can I have some of what you're smoking? They're the same motors built by the same guys and they're bulletproof. Our engines don't knock like a hammer when cold either. Go back to the drawing board young one.

I just hope that they fix the front bench seats on the SUVs, did any one notice that the gmt 900s pickups got a standard dash that worked witht the front bench than a different one if there was a concsel, whereas the suburban with the front bench only got the dash for the concsel, which resulted in no leg room, you had to stradle the center stack. coming fron a large family that owns 9 pax suburbans this is really annoying. if ford can make the same ceter stack work with and without a concsel on all f150s xl throught platnuim (work truck is 2010 xl and personal is 2010 raptor) and make it look uniques to that trim level ith clading than why can't GM, they made it work on the 800s, but for large families and fleet buyers, that 9th seat can make all the diffrence.

Hate bust the Gm party put the Dodge Dart is best compact car on the market today! And this new truck I can't stop crucking up a bout it! LOl Gm should just threw the keys on the table and walk away lol

They wonder why RAM is catching up!! They need to fire that design team!!! What does the rest of the truck look like if the dash looks like crap!

This mid-dash reminds me of robot from the 60's TV series Lost in Space, anyone remember that one! lol Oh GM, is this all you got? I guess we will have to wait for the true unvailing!

@Blueoval

Really? Didn't know SVT engineers were working hand in hand with the F150 guys on engine design across the board. Does a mustang run a turbo V6, 6.2 or a Diesel? The current 3.7/5.0 is the only thing somewhat shared between the two and they have made many changes for truck duty, changes made by the F150 team. Atleast they had a good base with a motor from the mustang program. The old 5.4 wasn't shared with the them which had tons of issues as well as anemic power (not the 5.4 s/c version which was a SVT project).

Bulletproof? Need I remind you the 6.4/6.7 issues they are having with the diesels, how about the Ecoboost turbo problems that people are trying to get a class action lawsuit on, or how about the plug issues with those 5.4's? You talk about an occasional gm piston slap when cold for a few seconds, how about an all the time cam phaser ticking on the 3v 5.4's that is described as "normal", not to mention the old 5.4's also had some piston slap btw.

How about them apples?

GM is known for having the most reliable gas motors period (their diesel and Dodge's too but they are supplied not in house). You rarely see GM's getting replaced with Ford/Dodge motors, but you very well see those foreigners or other domestics get replaced with GM motors; the 350's went into everything. You can spray the piss out of the LS based engines to well over 100k, transmissions have historically been tops too for toughness and relibility (Powerglide, M-22, TH400/4l80e). Give me a reliable drivetrain any day than a pretty boy car like interior, save me $$$ down the road when I don't have some major mechanical issue to fix on my dime or leave me or my friends and family stranded or worse (rear axle locked up on the hwy) far away from home. That's my drawing board oldtimer...

I will give ford credit for the 9 inch & C4, not sure what Dodge supplied (don't say transfercase Hemi)...

Those toggle switches. Obviously exhaust brake, power sliding rear window, stability/traction, trailer sway control. I see a button with a letter P, which makes me think it is an electronic park brake (which would be nice). I would also expect hill start assist and hill decent control. Other spy pics showed a driver's grab handle on the A-pillar, obviously GM has decided not to build the truck with one after all.

Tyler, you're a moron plain and simple. I know exactly who does what at FoMoCo. SVT is a marketing name. All engines and parts purchases for said engines are based on the same designs by the same engineer's. You have NO idea who you're talking to. We have no diesel engine issues now. They are in house. As for the spark plugs? We fix any issues that arise. I can't say the same for GM. When did the Gen 3-4 SBC arrive? Oh ya, 1997. It's 2012 and they Still have piston slap. The onyl thing you're right on is the Chevrolet 350. It's a world class engine.

I herd by an owner of a Chevy / GMC dealer that it will be wraped in leather on top models of GMC. And poss. Top Chevy Models.

well said Tyler:: blueovalempire, it is you that cant see straight! and this is comming from an Ecco-Boost owner! this is the 1st new Ford I have EVER bought! because of all the issues with the 4.6-5.4 crap motors over the yrs that FMCO has stuck a LOT of my freinds with, when I saw all the pain that FMCO put the new E_B engine through I have taken a chance on a new F-150, I have always liked the trucks but the engines were junk! I can't even count how many people I personaly know that have had issue after issue with there 4.6-5.4 V-8's, between plugs and idle control, and ECU and yes even piston slap in most of them I have seen on the road to date, it was about time that Ford came out with some good engines, BUT only time will tell, I do like my F-150 I just wish I coulda got it with a reg cab short bed, I had to get a 8' bed, but oh well it is still a nice truck, I you keep up all the smak talk like hemiveeeight does with Rams, people will not think twicew abvout being seen in a Ford, so grow up will ya! I just hope I have given trust where it is do, and I havent even got to all the tranny problems folks I know have had with the power jokes and gas motors!, not one plow around here hasn't had a tranny replaced! I do a lot of mild towing with the F-150, when I don't need more room for passengers, when I do I also have an ext cab Z-71 5.3 and that does a fine job, gets the same mpg as the EB but not the same power, so far both of them have been good trucks with no issues at all, so far, (knock on wood), it is a Ford after all.



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