Spied! Inside the Next-Gen Ram HD

Ram 5500 HD 1 II

To no one's surprise, it looks like the 2014 models of the Ram 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500 HD are in the final stages of their shakedown testing. Our spy photographers are beginning to see more and more of them, dressed in different configurations, out on test roads. 

As we suspected, many of the details and design characteristics that we just saw on the 2013 Ram 1500 will also make their way to the HD models. Notice the projector headlamps, the wider and taller grille crossbars, and the vastly improved interior.

If if you look closely, you can tell that this model has all the same switches as the lighter-duty model, but where the air suspension setting should sit (right next to the trailer brake controller), there is no icon on the switch that we can see. Does that mean these big trucks will never get an airbag suspension? We hope not. 

We're hearing rumors that Ram will try to do something important at the State Fair of Texas, but we haven't been able to get any confirmation. We're hoping for something major for the HDs.

All we know so far is what our spy shooters tell us: that engineers are spending a lot of time in the cab of the truck on their laptops and cranking the steering back and forth to full lock, then getting under the truck and playing with something. Additionally, they're being very careful with the trucks and are being very tight with security. Apparently, all the trucks are being kept inside enclosed auto haulers each night.

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Comments

I hope that it will mean the next gen will have the torque and horsepower that will make it competitive again. It certainly looks good!

I hope they addressed the front passenger footwell.

I am anxious to see the new Power Wagon and all it's Glory.

8.3 Cummins w/ 450 HP/1100 lb-ft, 8 speed auto, air suspension, and a more efficient way of meeting emissions? OK I am dreaming, still can't wait to see what it will have.

Thats funny... Nissan doesn't change it's body style for over decade that's a major problem for them but if Dodge/Chrapsler/Fiat doesn't change it's body style for over a decade that's not a problem.

Max are you freaking serious? Nobody can be that stupid!

I have to agree Ram does not have to change it's body style as much as the Titan or Super Duty due to it being the best looking one and everybody knows the crosshair grill. Before someone gets mad and bashes the Tundra because I said that we all know the 2014 3rd gen Tundra will have a new body style as the current one is the least popular of any pickup in it's class.

I can't believe how big that screen in the center console is. It's like a freaking laptop.

Starting to think that No Guts No Glory Ram guy is right...

On another note I thought I had read somewhere that Cummins had another set of light duty diesels in the works. One that would put out 400 hp to keep up with GM and Ford and another that they have been touting for the 1500 Ram, if they don't go to a Fiat sourced diesel.

I hope they are able to address lack luster fuel efficiency.

How much is that red Easy Button option?

Why is the step rail attached to the front axle trailing arm?

Rumor is the Hemi might be an option in the 4500 and 5500 next year.

The Dodge and Ford are the most praised full sized trucks around. I think that they both have their merits. However since Dodge went to the forward slanted grille I've not really been able to distinguish them year over year. It is an old body style with a lot of refinements just like the current Ford. Thats not bad in my opinion. Calling them "all new" is a stretch. The Nissan, Toyota and GM twins would not be that bad either if they had been refined along the way. I like the current GM trucks save for 3 things, stinking rear drums, underpowered, and lackluster dash/guage cluster. As a GM driver if they would have updated the interior, dropped the idiotic drum brakes, and beefed up the engines in the current body those trucks would still be competitive. Same with the Toyota and Nissan. Dodge and Ford have proven that you don't need to reinvent the wheel just refine the wheel that you have.

Holy heck Battman! Look at those low slung control arms on the front end of that truck. It reminds me of a Ford Super Duty!! I have a buddy with a Super Duty that bent his on a tall rock when he was off-roading. I think Dodge is making a big mistake here. Their current design is low to the ground but these are even worse.

Thats funny... Nissan doesn't change it's body style for over decade that's a major problem for them but if Dodge/Chrapsler/Fiat doesn't change it's body style for over a decade that's not a problem.

Posted by: MaXx | Aug 26, 2012 12:49:38 PM

You hit the nail RIGHT ON THE HEAD MaXx. These days the RAM/Fiat clowns are thinking like the Ford fanbois are. As long as THEY think it looks good or it is the "best seller", it does not need to change. Even if another manufacturer has something good going with a product they call it outdated, crap, etc. It looks as though they have fried what brain cells they had left on the Ford and Fiat flavored Kool Aid.

I wonder what the Silverado interior design team is thinking as these Ram interior shots are coming out?...

RAM is taking the truck market and reinventing it. I know all other truck makers and truck owners of other brands are just green with envy and I love it. RAM will take over the full size truck segment in a few short years. Nothing beats RAM for quality durability and styel.

GUTS
GLORY
CLASS LEADING
AMAZING
TOUGH AS NAILS
POWERFUL
RAM

I wonder what the Silverado interior design team is thinking as these Ram interior shots are coming out?...

Posted by: toycrusher84 | Aug 27, 2012 7:29:06 AM

I am sure they are thinking this: THANK GOODNESS WE ARE COMING OUT WITH A STRAIGHFORWARD DASH/INTERIOR DESIGN THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A KID'S LEGO SET." In other words, A MISH-MASH OF DIFFERENT SHAPED PLASTIC PIECES SNAPPED TOGETHER. Give me functional over Gimmicky CRAP any day. Ford is the KING of Gimmicky crap. It looks like RAM/Fiat is following in their footsteps.

@TomGillespe, You point out the low-hanging control arms, yet most (if not all) people that come here and post comments are always talking about the low-hanging frames on the GM HDs.

It may look like there's bias towards RAM because of all the coverage lately. However, let's keep in mind that RAM is making a lot of changes, so naturally there should be coverage for it. Same for Furd. They made some huge changes, so again, lots-o-coverage. Back when the current and still competive 2nd-gen Tundra came out, Mark compile most if not all TV ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi79PK73yjk&feature=related.

When GM announces their changes, there will be lot-o-coverages for it too.

So, in reality, this site is doing what it was designed to do: provide news coverage for pickup trucks when available.

I agree with the no guts no glory statement: No J2807 compliance, then NO SOUP FOR YOU! Come back in one year!

Hope they still offer a hand-shaker transmission. Dodge/Ram is the only one left that does.

Actually there won't be coverage for the new GM vehicles, since it seems as though all they are doing is what Ford already did, and what the Ram has already done.

Hope they still offer a hand-shaker transmission. Dodge/Ram is the only one left that does.

Posted by: paul810 | Aug 27, 2012 10:57:53 AM

paul810 is correct! Another segment that RAM leads in!!

GUTS
GLORY
ONLY ONE WITH A MANUAL TRANNY
100% PERFECT
RAM

@ MaXx

RAM has a new body style,all new in 2009 for the 1500,each year new changes..

RAM is a totally new truck in/out in 2009 for the 1500 and totally new in 2010 for the H.D.

RAM H.D was all new in 2010 ! How do you figure a 2014 would be a 10 year old design ? You must be confused with Ford same body style since 1997 on the H.D (98's came out in early 97 furd had no 97 h.d,were called a 98 in 97) and since 2005 for the F-150,had the same body !

Nissan didnt change anything,same body,same interior,same engine ect..Your comment doesnt make sense about the RAM !

RAM shares no body panels,no interior ,no frame nor suspension with the 2002-2008 1500 even the HEMI was bumped up from 345 horse to 390 horse in '09 !! And the H.D shares no body panels,no interior with the 2009-2011 H.D trucks,please educate yourself,you are a typical non Mopar guy,totally clueless about everything..

RAM WINS !!

Amen my MOPAR brother!!!

GUTS
GLORY
NEWER THAN ANY TRUCK ON THE ROAD
SEXY
RAM

@ Shawn-The Cummins V6 & V8 that were being worked on either got the axe or got a major delay with the Chrysler bankruptcy. The rumor mills are spinning stating that VM Motori (50/50 owned by Fiat & GM) will provide a V6 for the Ram 1500. It may be model year 2014 before it comes to market, but it's a serious rumor.

Mopar has the best looking trucks on the market ,these new ones are the hottest trucks around ! A 2013 Quad Cab Big Horn Hemi 1500 is going to be in my garage as soon as they come out (hope they have 4.10's with the 8 speed)! Mopar is on a roll ! And a few x- Ford and GM buddies of mine are also going and some already have switched to Mopar ! The ones that did absolutely love them ! Dodge RAM trucks RULE !!

What's with the "vastly improved interior" remark? The Ram already has a vastly better interior than GM & Ford. I guess the new one must be really something to behold....

It's interesting that manufacturers seem to be forgoing the major, all-out redesigns of the past ('94 Ram, '97 F-150, '99 Silverado), and instead are making steady, more incremental improvements every 2-3 years. The market has become far too important and too competitive for the days of full redesigns once a decade (or longer). Consumers have, and will, benefit greatly from this as the newest technologies are brought to market faster.

Anyone who studies design and marketing knows that people do not respond well to big changes. That is why most companies will go with the strategy of gradual refinements, or making big changes in only one area at a time. Ford has that strategy mastered and it shows in the sales statistics. Ram has adopted that strategy and they are steadily gaining market share. GMC has lost market share and they haven't done much of anything over the lifespan of the current generation. Tundra is another example of minimal change and a loss of market share. GM and Toyota risk alienating customers if they both try to make huge changes to catch up to the competition.

@Lou
Agreed, especially regarding the GM twins. I would say Toyota doesn't have much to lose with a substantial redesign, and merely doing a refresh with incremental improvements across the board will not result in measurable sales increases. Toyota just doesn't have the loyalists in the full size market to get away with that.

@Luke in CO - I agree that Toyota has much more to gain with a completely new truck. For main-stream truck guys the Tundra is still considered way too different. I personally don't see any major problems with the Tundra frame but that is another area that they will change to conform with current 1/2 ton orthodoxy. Tundra owners (and I know quite a few) are very loyal to the brand. They tend to be more "liberal" so a big change probably would be more accepted in that camp.

Anyone who studies design and marketing knows that people do not respond well to big changes. That is why most companies will go with the strategy of gradual refinements, or making big changes in only one area at a time. Ford has that strategy mastered and it shows in the sales statistics. Ram has adopted that strategy and they are steadily gaining market share. GMC has lost market share and they haven't done much of anything over the lifespan of the current generation.


@Lou, I agree. Look how successful the Chevy Silverado from 1988-1998 was. Or the 1973-1987 was. With the new 1999 it was 'ok' but nowhere as good looking IMO. However, it still Looked like a Silverado. In 2003 however, they lost me and many others with their radical Avalanche styled front end reminiscent of something you'd see on a Pontiac Aztec. What a disaster. And with the monster flared bed and front fenders on the new 2007 and up combined with that odd looking 3 piece bumper, I've all but given up on Chevrolet design when it comes to trucks. I still say the Silverado should have just looked the same way from 1999 to 2006 instead of wrecking it like they did. I also still say the 2007 and up Silverado should have been the same as the Sierra body with a different grille. GM screwed up so bad with these last two Silverado's I'm truly stunned there's any real loyalty left. Dodge and Ford are doing it right. With Chevrolet, I'm not sure how they can 'refine' the last two horrible designs from 2003-2012. They need to start over IMO and combine things from the last 3 Truly Great trucks they built. The 1967-1972's, the 1973-1987's and the 1988-1998's. If they can successfully do that and give them the high build quality as well as high class interior-exterior (package) options like Dodge and Ford offer, I think they just might stay in the game as a real player.

As i have show before on this web site the 2009+ f150s look the same as the 2004-2008 but in factr are different trucks with different frames etc. the wheel bases are different for vehicles with the same bed and cab combo as the previous generation. the doors are different on a 2005 vs my 2010 subercab, the only thing they kept the same was the door handles. In 2009 ford redisigned the f150 in every area except the motors which they tweeked the 5.4l . the interiors where made bigger in all cab sizes. in fact in 2012 they made the F150 .1 inches longer in the wheel base that meanws that a new frame was used.

Dodges truck is all new just like the ford was in 09 they keep the styling the same because 1) people like the look, and 2) with computer designs they have maxed out the drag reduction while keeping the truck functional there fore no need to redisign the look of the truck.

Looks like the same old Dodge to me. Third place in the big truck pull off again will not surprise me with Ford taking a distant second again. Dodge and Ford just change what you can see and they claim they are offering a totally new pickup. WHAT A JOKE! GM leaves their exterior alone and change their frame and beef up their suspension which out shines the competition. And offers a diesel that out pulls the competition two years in a row while finishing first in the pull off competition. And all you hear from you second class Ford and Dodge boys how GM trucks have not changed any in the last 5 years. Go back and read the pull off again and then take your dirty shoes out of your mouth.

@Greg - ironic that you mention "pull off" and "mouth" in the same sentance. Knee pads must make your life easier.

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Allpar spotters have discovered 2014 Ram chassis-cabs and “heavy duty” pickups being tested with gasoline engines. At this time, only the Ram 2500 and 3500 come with a Hemi engine (with optional Cummins diesels); the Ram 4500 and 5500 chassis-cabs are Cummins-diesel-only. There is no word on which gasoline engines are being used in the trucks, but some Allpar sources said a 6.4 Hemi was being readied for the truck line. This engine would not be the same as the SRT8 6.4; while it would likely include cylinder shutoff, it would almost certainly have lower horsepower ratings and internal changes to support a completely different duty cycle.

A gasoline engine would not deliver the fuel economy of a diesel, but it could reduce the sticker price by $5,000 or more, even including the costs of creating the engine. This would help Ram to compete against its primary competitor, Ford, in the medium-duty chassis-cab arena.

As owner of an equipment company, bottom line is the bottom dollar. I have deadlines to meet and a broken down service truck isn't going to help that deadline. My employees need reliable equipment to get them to the jobsite and back home with their families safely. The GM trucks are great, but long term reliability its just not there. I have Dodge 3500s thru 5500s and Ford F350s thru F550s on jobsites either servicing equipment or moving equipment with goosnecks. With the economy the way it is, I need to keep my operating costs at a minimum and keep my employees working. The Dodge and Ford trucks don't consume a lot of diesel and compared to my older GM trucks, they don't spend a lot of time with the mechanics.

Hey folks, the All New Ram 1500 will be introduced in late 2013 as a 2014 model



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