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good looking truck!

The only truck design out there older than the GM twins! Not trolling...just saying. These really need an update!

The 2nd Gen Tundra is about 3 months younger than the GMT 900 platform. Not trolling.. just saying.

Remind me, which one has sold more?

More Ho-Hum Yawn from Nissan!

The F-150 goes back to what 2004? all they have done is change a little of this and that! I believe all the galss is the same, doors, tailgate, frame........

Now I see where Chevy stole their bulging bed and front fender design from. Ugly as hell. At least Nissan had the good sense to make the wheelwells round like the tires.

Hell, looking at it more, they even stole the tailgate stamping and the 3 piece bumper! LOL! Nice job Chevy. You made the ugliest truck in history copying a Nissan of all things. Pathetic.

They still make them?

Friend of mine had an '04 model. Bought one a month after they came out. The truck was ok up until 80K miles or so. Then, one thing after another went bad. If I remember right, he said 13 check engine lights in 2 months. Got rid of it soon after.
And of course, the rust. Nissan special. We were joking that if you got close enough you could hear rust chewing up the sheetmetal. :)

@Mikehileman

Says the guy who drives A) a 2004 based truck (F150) or worse a 1999 (F250/350) B) a Tundra (need I say more) C) a Titan (is a comment really needed?) or D) a car based pick up the Ram

Which do you drive oh god of design and fashion?

@Tyler,

WTF do you drive TROLL?

My 1999 F250 V10 has been great, 145K miles on it now. One alternator has been replaced.

So where is the diesel engine they talked about last year?

@Tyler,

Good question by Frank, what do you drive???????

My first Tundra was rock solid, only traded it in because they came out with the double cab. Second Tundra (2006 double cab) again was rock solid. Traded it just recently for a 2012 Rock Warrior package. So far, top notch. Smooth tranny, tows like a champ, 5.7 engine has more horses and torque than I know what to do with. Before my conversion to the Tundra I was a chevy truck guy. Last chevy went through 4 trannies in 4 years, all out of pocket on GM as they couldn't figure why it was eating trannies. Also had electrical glitches like no tomorrow. So tell us troll boi, what do you drive that makes you such a friggin authority to make such asinine and idiotic comments??????

@Tyler,

RAM 1500,2500,3500 ect..is not car based,you are totally ignorant ! Another reason there should be no comments section on this site,people are very,very uneducated or just stupid as in your case !

**FYI Tyler,Chrysler went to unibody on its cars in the late 1950's,yes...late 1950's !!! Only the Imperial had a frame until 1966 ! The Dodge RAM trucks have a frame and not a unibody ,so your theory of RAM trucks being car based are just wrong.Furthermore,what Chrysler car is big enough so the RAM Truck could be based off of it ? They have none !!

I am always laughing at your ignorant comments,you act like you know it all,when in fact 99% of the time you are wrong just like most others on this site,just idiots,pure idiots !

"so your theory of RAM trucks being car based are just wrong."

@Auto tech,

Tyler has confused himself with that comment, he was referring to GM's, gutless, torque-less engines that rev like cars in their IFS car set-up trucks.

@sandman4x4

Actually it goes back to 2009 as Ford changed the exterior body lines, front grill, totally revamped the interior and introduced a new engine line-up in 2011. Not sure how you can say it is the same body when the crew cab added 6 inches of leg room in '09. Plus, it looks like GM's new truck will be following Ford's trend of subtle changes to the body, new grill and interior. Nothing groundbreaking or completely new. So please, stop the fan boy bashing.

Gregory, I have a hard time believing your friend even has a Titan. My Titan is eight years old and doesn't have a stitch of rust on the body, even in the places you would normally find it live on the inside door seems in fenders. I haven't heard of one person complain about Titans rusting. I love mine and may consider another one only because its a great value for what they are selling them for.

No regular cab no long bed who cares .

As I posted before I owned a tundra and it was a peace of crap.I have 2 fords and a titan now.The titan is a far better truck then the tundra and a whole lot better looking.

Neither can compare to the ford trucks i've owned.

French truck !
44% owned by Renault.

I still like the Titan, None of that long hanging crap in the front like all the domestics have now, easy to offroad.

Nissan same as 2004

Ford f-150 same as 2004

Ford H.D same as the 1997 (1998 officially released early 97 as 98's)

My neighbor has a 97 errrr 98 F-250 and a 2012 f-250 and you cant tell them apart,only the grill and dash are different lol.

@ Chris,

Dont know what you mean,the short front clip looks very weird.Titan looks funny same as the Tundra because the front clip is too short,looks really weird.A pillar makes the truck look like a compact,just odd.I tried to like these when they came out but i just cant (i owned a Nissan Frontier for a short time)

Brad,
I kid you not. He had those storage compartments behind rear wheels, the little doors were half way gone before he sold his truck. I don't remember if Titan has them on both sides, but that was one sore spot on his truck. His truck was that cool brown color so at least it wasnt so visible. Engine was always strong, but tranny went out. After that, everything went to hell on his truck. One thing I liked on his truck was factory bedliner. The rest should note that.

good looking 8year old truck!

Easily the ugliest truck on the road

Randy, The front clip is a little short but it mainly because of the racked back windshield extending out into the hood, its really not any shorter then a Ford if you measure from the bumper to the back of the front fender, its not as short as say a Hummer H2 Front end.

http://news.yahoo.com/toyota-recalls-vehicles-steering-pump-defects-064717609--finance.html

Tyler has confused himself with that comment, he was referring to GM's, gutless, torque-less engines that rev like cars in their IFS car set-up trucks.

Posted by: Frank | Nov 13, 2012 4:43:08 PM

You must be forgetting about Ford's worthless diesel engines, spark plug spitting Tritons, numerous recalls, sudden fires. I could go on and on all day. You don't have room to talk FRANKIE TROLL.

A really old truck that still starts north of $28k?! Good luck with that.

whoubu: I stand by my post, it does go back to 2004, all thay have done is make improvments but it is true the glass, doors, tailgate is all the same, and yea what about the SD! the first one I remember is from 98! that was the 1st yr someone around here bought one (still has it), true all they have made is inprovments, and I am no a fanboi! I have put my $$$ where the rubber meets the road! I bought a new 2011 F-150, reg cab 4X4 ecco-boost! it was fine till 35K when the head gasket went! and the dealer tried to screw me because of a cold air intake! but Ford finaly did pay for it! and that will probably be the last ford I put my $$$ on! where as I have had several Chevy's with no problems! ever! just miles and miles of fine service, just get bored with the same truck! the only truck I have owned for more than 4 yrs is a 2003 Dakota, that I did have to put ball joints in, (dealer paid labor on re-call) but I wanted better Moog BJoints with grease fittings so I paid for the parts and the dealer put them in, and the only other problem was the water pump at 44K that the dealer fixed under the 7/70,000 mile warrantee! I can honestly say I have tried a ford, and will only buy American!

From what I've been seeing and hearing the head gaskets are the weak point on the eco boost, not the turbos. Does anyone know what the boost (psi) pressure the eco runs? I have not read of any other problems beside the head gaskets.

Great news for the 13 people that buy Titans every year......

@sandman4X4 - truck design usually follows evolution not revolution. Truck guys for the most part are conservative and do not like change. The F150 line is designed purposely to share its lineage (history) with previous models. That helps sales but the F150 has had some major changes. The location of the shocks have changed, the frame is different, crossmembers have changed, the transmission and engines are different. There also have been subtle changes to the body.
I haven't followed the HD's too closely so I reserve comment on them. I do agree that the drivetrains in the Chevy HD's are better than that of the Ford HD's.

It is rather unfortunate that you have had problems with your EB 3.5 truck. Why hate on Ford when it was the dealer that caused you all of your grief.

Nissan, you have a new front end for the Titan in the NV. Do a little body mod's to make the darn thing fit. There you go, a new Nissan Titan. You can come up with a new Commercial Vehicle in the NV, but you can't redesign the Titan? Come on Nissan, you are better then this. For God sake you brought back the GT-R from the dead. Bring back the Titan from the Dead.

Lou: how would you feel, after all you heard about a new engine, in a truck you always though was decent, but had bad engines, decided to put your 34K down, and the most inopportune time the truck $hits the bed, for what reason? after you gave in to all the hype, and then on top of it all the dealer tried to screw me! and it took 5 calls to Ford Customer Service, and 2 trips from a 3rd party to inspect the truck, at least I have AAA or I would have had to pay for a tow (Ford has no roadside assistance), and maybe even a storage fee? No it is not hate , it is a very bad case of dissapointment.

I really loved reading your blog. It was very well authored and easy to understand. Unlike additional blogs I have read which are really not tht good. I also found your posts very interesting. In fact after reading, I had to go show it to my friend and he enjoyed it as well!

@sandman4x4 - I understand and I sympathize. I felt the same way for a long time in relation to Chyrsler but the Grand Caravan we owned had multiple problems over a long time frame.
I chose to buy a 2010 even though the 2011's were out because I try to stay away from anything new until it has been proven in the real world.
I wasn't trying to dis you. You've always been a straight shooter and I respect that fact.

These idiots on here saying that a '98 and a '12 Super Duty are the same exact truck except for the grill and dash are stupid, ignorant jealous haters. Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Super_Duty for some learnin'. And keep driving your Jap poser-pickups because they look so pretty sitting in the wal-mart parking lot.

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