Ram Power Wagon Flounders in Sand

Power Wagon Flounders 2 II

There are some who thought it couldn't be done, but apparently you can get stuck in a Ram Power Wagon. According to Autoblog.com, a film crew shooting a commercial with a new Ram 2500 Power Wagon got stuck in the loose sand at the water's edge near Humboldt, Calif.

Yes, we know that all Power Wagons come equipped with a winch, locking front and rear differentials, BFG all-terrain tires and more ground clearance than any other pickup truck sold in the U.S., but that all means nothing if you have the wrong driver behind the wheel. From these photos, it looks like the tires are at maximum pressure, and the first thing the driver did was crush the front bumper and make the front winch completely useless.

We know all too well that sand is not the best surface for the Power Wagon from our Ultimate 4x4 Shootout in which it seemed to be the PW's Achilles' heel. Still, you have to question the driver who thought it was a good idea to climb on top of the coastal rocks near some tide pools nose first. And given the photos, this is the smallest budget commercial shoot ever done; more likely it was some kind of photo shoot. 

No word yet whether this new decal look is connected with a local or national Ram campaign.

Power Wagon Flounders 3 II

Power Wagon Flounder II

 

Comments

But it has a solid axle... This can't be! I cal bs on this article as we all know that solid axles are then only way for "serious" off roaders. (Sarcasm to those who missed that)

Surprise surprise an 8000lbs 20ft long full size truck got stuck in loose sand. In guessing ram and superduty fanboys are the only ones shocked by that outcome.

Solid axles are the best way for serious off-roading. eg Compare a Wrangler Rubicon to a Grand Cherokee. The Rubicon will keep all four wheels on the ground because of its better articulation. But the size of a Rubicon is much better for off-road than a Ram 2500! I like Duramaxes too, but you don't have to be blinded by your loyalty of one brand to overlook proven technologies.

Anyone who has ever done much 4-wheeling on the beach knows the second your front axle gets buried in the sand, you are DONE.

Big, boat anchor trucks on pizza cutter tires suck in the sand or mud...no surprise there. Gotta wonder about the idiot who decided driving out there was a good plan.

I see no mention (in this article) of the tide coming in and submerging the truck in question... No lamenting the horrible ensuing oil slick that drowned cute baby seal and fluffy bird alike in its evil black mire...seemed like that was all the Autoblog "Green" article could talk about.

So did that not happen or is PUTC just downplaying the "oh the humanity" environmental angle?

Ram
Guts
Glory
Get me a tow truck ASAP!
LOL

Like I've told my 'gotta have SFA for offroading' buddies. Where in the world are you going take your 20' long 7.5' wide 3.5 ton truck where a SFA is going to make a damn bit of difference.

JasonH.: follow link at the start of the story, it will tell you it was a film crew filming a Ram commercial that did this, and that they went out of bounds and yes the truck was stuck there over night and was submerged in the high tide for hours!

Just to be fair, once most of a truck's weight is resting on the frame/underbelly, it's like a beached whale.

I always thought that the power wagon had fairly marginal ground clearance (it of course can be lifted), and its real power came from its triple set of lockers, *ridiculous* articulation with the detachable sway bar, and the built in winch in case you screw up.

Its a great truck, its really a sham that these guys managed to get it submerged. What a waste.

I like the idea of the Power Wagon, a slow speed crawling oriented vehicle. Let’s be honest, a heavy duty truck honestly sucks off-roading. Long wheel base and they are heavy. I would like to see this package in a regular cab short box truck. At least it would be decent off-road.

Nothing comparable to a Jeep or FJ Cruiser though.

Were they using the 33inch BFGs A/T?

It seems like it needs 35inch BFG M/T. Wow!

@Denver Mike: "Just to be fair, once most of a truck's weight is resting on the frame/underbelly, it's like a beached whale."

Thank you, DM, for verifying that today's full-sized trucks are nothing but Road Whales™.

This is why anything bigger than a half-ton pickup truck is not a good idea for a dedicated off-roader. It's simply too long and too heavy to be useful on tight trails or loose sand. Even a half-ton like the Raptor is inappropriate for some conditions. Pickup trucks are generally meant to pull large loads over anything from an interstate highway to rough backroads or unpaved fields--not usually crawling through mud or getting hung up on rocks. When was the last time you saw a one-ton crew cab dually at Moab?

It's a pity to wreck a truck like that. They must feel like fools.

It's all about traction. Survey where you are going and make sure you understand your vehicle's attributes and shortcomings.

On the weekend a group of us in 6 vehicles went off roading. The only guys who got bogged were the young guys (under 23).

Several places we stopped and myself and another guy explained to them how to tackle the obstacles.

One guy in a new global Ranger, which is identical to my BT50 got bogged and had to be snatched out. We drove the exact same path.

At the end of the day off roading comes down to experience. Some people think because it's an off road vehicle it can't get stuck and overestimate the vehicles capabilities.

I would have left it there!

who the hell takes any truck to a spot like that? especially a full size truck. the middle photo is the fartherest i would have taken any vehicle. so did the driver think he was just gonna bounce over the rocks and keep going? if it is going to be a "swamp hog" shouldn't it have a snorkel air intake like the jeep or the "active air" on the 2013 diesels? you know, thing is the original power wagon was a regular cab long bed; shouldn't the modern power wagon be exclusively on the regular cab long bed 4x4 ram 2500? i mean seriously, it is a low volume enthusiast vehicle anyway and who needs 5 other people with them in the same truck when they are off roading (unless they are planning to push it out when they get stuck like above :)?

Talk about negative press! Let the lawsuits between Fiat-Ram and the ad agency begin!

Oy, another lame PickupTruck story.

Don't know why there running BFG's. There the worst off road tire. The powerwagon and raptor should change that up

Who leaked the photos? Welcome to another edition of Fiat-Ram's Bloopers & Pratical Jokes. Starring Ram Power Wagon.

It's nice that 'Mater was near by.

@DWFields - Any truck can get high centered:

http://www.southernhighrollers.com/trails/albums/shiloh_20040221/images/High%20Centered%202.jpg

So you have to read the trail/terrain and know what you're doing. Sure it's true, the lightest truck with the shortest wheelbase and biggest, tallest tires feasible, is best for some specific off-road environments and tasks, all other things equal. For other off road tasks, those things may work against you.

But let's not discount the Power Wagon's HD attributes vs say a mid-size 4X4 or Wrangler. It's tough to say who would buy a PW. Likely they're pulling a 20' toy hauler to the sands of Pismo Beach, the dunes of Glamis or something like that. Or pulling a welding rig on work days.

Who the heck knows? But you're starting to show your official PUTC small truck allegiance here. I don't take sides. I'm a fan of all trucks, all sizes and from all markets. And all women of all sizes and races.

Life is better with an open mind.

Wow this website is really behind the curb these days. This story was posted on autoblog two days ago.

So these guys worked at Ram? Guess that just goes to show you that the manufacturers don't know much about the conditions they build their trucks to drive in. Wonder if the sand is that deep in their 'proving grounds'?

@diesel guy - don't know where you live but around here, in the southeastern US, BFG AT's work fabulously. They go anywhere a Buckshot will, and last 60k on a 3/4 ton truck. Worth every penny.

Sweet hair on the driver. Looks to me from looking at his hairdo that this truck might have been stolen!

love this truck but still its not a jeep, its not a taco hell i aint even a dakota. This truck would excel and crap on my modified jeep in some fields but wet loose sand is not it. The driver of this truck was a moron

@Denver|||Mike
I beg to differ, a 76 Series Toyota V8 diesel is a much better proposition in any off road situation in comparison to the PowerWagon.

It will carry more weight off road and perform far better off road.

The PowerWagon is a nice truck, but not a dedicated 4x4 like the Toyota 76 Series. The Toyota is designed only to be a 4x4 work truck.

Looking at these pics it was clearly operator error and driver abuse. Not the truck's fault the driver is a moron and abused it!

http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2013/may/1/dodge-rocks/

I agree with Poweragonmaster.

You guys haven't seen the good pics of that truck when high tide rolled in... It was hilarious, there were surfers standing on the roof becasue all but the top couple feet of the truck got submerged. LOL And it sat there all night until 10AM the next morning when the tide went back out and they could get the tow truck to it. This was at Moonstone beach just north of McKinleyville. Funniest part is that the CA EPA showed up and wrote the film crew a fat ticket for getting a little oil in the ocean... lol

@BAFo - The Toyota 76 looks like an answer to the Jeep Comanche trucks:

http://s172.photobucket.com/user/je1988ep/media/Moonlight%20Madness/IMG_0383.jpg.html

No truck combines everything all off road enthusiasts can possibly need or want in a muilt-purpose work/play/family rig.

The 76 can't possibly take 5 or 6 full-size adults to a remote camp site in comfort like the Power Wagon even if the 76's payload and towing is overrated for a 1/2 ton (or whatever it is)

Solve the problem. Raptor!!!

Maybe they were doing a remake of Clarksons Toyota Hilux and the Sea and using a RAM Power Wagon instead? Any way a good promotion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk

@Denver Mike: "Starting to show..."? Dude, I'm the one who puts the ™ on Road Whale™. I've been anti-full-size for casual users for a long, long time. Just because I have one and do understand some of the appeal of it doesn't mean I like it. Worse, it's a Ford, which I believe I've already pointed out I'm no fan. I'll keep it as long as I need it, but given the right opportunity I would trade it in a heartbeat.

That said, if you would so conveniently look at most of the off-road truck races, they are almost to a fault standard-cab, short-bed models--or at least made up to look like one. I will grant that those are very custom built in most cases but they kind of give the lie to the viability of the Raptor itself, despite that model's popularity. Yes, I'll even admit that when I watched the hour-long infomercial about the creation of the first Raptor I was impressed and on the verge of saying "I want one"... until they listed the price.

There is no way I would pay $60K for something as completely impractical as a Raptor--I wouldn't even buy the Chevy SST when it was on the market because $35,000 was simply too high a price for what it was intended to be. You see what happened to the SST. Nobody bought it because they felt the same way I do about it. That's why I'm really surprised the Raptor is a success.

Yes, I fully agree that there will always be a need for a true, working 4x4 pickup truck. Loggers need them to get access to their timber and carry their tools, linemen and pipeline inspectors need them to run their lines, hunters and others do have need for such capability. And yes, I do know some will use them for rock crawling and other recreational purposes not counting--again--the highly modified versions purposely built for those sports.

On the other hand, shorter wheelbase 4x4s have the ability to go through some areas that the bigger trucks simply can't go. I watch how some commenters even here consistently talk about approach and departure angles while totally ignoring that break over--which is exactly what stranded this Power Wagon (along with some otherwise poor driving technique which comes from lack of experience). A mid-sized pickup, like the Wrangler, would also be narrower, capable of squeezing between trees in a forested environment that a full-sized rig couldn't manage due to both its wide body and poor maneuverability due to that long wheelbase again.

Simple question: How many different factory 4x4s have managed the Rubicon Trail in California? We all know the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon can do it, but are there any others?

@DW Fields
"On the other hand, shorter wheelbase 4x4s have the ability to go through some areas that the bigger trucks SIMPLY CAN'T GO"

How True.
http://www.wombatco.com.au/files/5813/1530/5380/slide_2.jpg

@Denver Mike: Love how you consistently exaggerate things to boost your point. Exactly how many times have YOU gone out camping in the woods with 5 or 6 full sized adults in your rig? Usually when someone goes camping they take at least two vehicles and if it is family groups it is usually 2 full-sized adults and one, two or three children of various ages and sizes. Usually, though I will accept not always, if it is a larger family group, they're taking the family SUV, not their big, fancy truck. The 4-door Jeep Wrangler can carry that camping crew and potentially all their camping gear including food without having to hang anything on the outside of the vehicle. For most sites, almost any 4x4 SUV could serve for a family group.

About the only time a full-sized pickup is really worth the run is when you're carrying a pack of Scouts for a weekend campout. Then you need to carry a lot more than just one or two tents with gear.

@DenverMike
I used to own a 4 litre XJ Sports Cherokee, it was very good off road, for its time. That was nearly 20 years ago.

There are now many 4x4 SUVs and pickups that are more capable.

The reason I bought it was I became interested in the Commanche after they dropped the underpowered GM V6 in 86 and replaced it with the AMC 245. The XJ was a legacy of my mini truck days. It was very torquey engine low down, which made it ideal off road.

There is a massive difference between the Commanche and 76 Series. The 76 Series is quite a heavy vehicle and much larger.

Even though the 7 Series is mid size, I don't personally consider it that because of its ability and capacity. They are tanks as you can see in the link with the 76 Series Camper that Robert Ryan has given us.

All vehicles are 'horses for courses', but the biggest impediment in any vehicle is the operator.

OMG! what the heck man! people are disparately smearing RAM pickups at any ridiculous way possible and I do mean ridiculous! It was nothing less than quick sand out there GEEZ!!! put any other pickup out in those conditions the same things gonna happen! DUH! another PR stunt from paid off media what else is new? LOL RAM will match the 2014 chevy's MPG rating that explains the random RAM bashing campaign.

OMG! what the heck man! people are disparately smearing RAM pickups at any ridiculous way possible and I do mean ridiculous! It was nothing less than quick sand out there GEEZ!!! put any other pickup out in those conditions the same things gonna happen! DUH! another PR stunt from paid off media what else is new? LOL RAM will match the 2014 chevy's MPG rating that explains the random RAM bashing campaign.

LOL chevrolet must be s***ing bricks right now! LOL new truck with a mid cycle refresh kicking its a** again! with more ponies under the hood LOL

RAM- 16/23 MPG (5.7 v8) 395hp 2wd

Chevy- 16/23 MPG (5.3 v8) 355hp 2wd

Its so obvious the RAM will have the same MPG common!!! if the 4x4 is 22 hwy than 4x2 is always an MPG higher always!

LOL chevrolet must be s***ing bricks right now! LOL new truck with a mid cycle refresh kicking its a** again! with more ponies under the hood LOL

RAM- 16/23 MPG (5.7 v8) 395hp 2wd

Chevy- 16/23 MPG (5.3 v8) 355hp 2wd

Its so obvious the RAM will have the same MPG common!!! if the 4x4 is 22 hwy than 4x2 is always an MPG higher always!

Funny, where is HemiV8????
The point about banging up the bumper and rendering the winch useless is a pretty stupid comment to make, especially coming from a former Editor of a 4x4 magazine.
The truck got stuck head first. WTF are they going to connect the winch to?
If one ventures off road, even with a winch, one will need an assortment of rated chains, snatch blocks, spare cable, shackles, tow straps, tools, jackall/hilift jack, shovels etc.
I've seen too many people get into trouble because they think a 4x4 will go any where and a winch will save the day.
Another rule is the buddy system - go with a buddy.

Too bad those idiots wrecked a nice truck.

I agree with Hemi V8. This was clearly driver error/abuse.

The truck attempted suicide after being molested by a design studio.

You can take a long wheel base truck pretty much any where. You only need two things #1 BALLS and #2 DEEP POCKETS LOL!

the title of this story should have gone like this: Stupid Driver gets stuck going where he was not suppose too!!

If this is driver abuse or stupidity, just remember that for the other topic some always like to bring up.

Power Wagons can get stuck anywhere. Contrary to popular opinion you can get stuck in the woods or mountains with a Power Wagon just as easily as the sand.

The Hemi Brothers Get 2006 Power Wagon Stuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYxP0UZaat4

@Tyler - those guys are idiots too. The guy stepped over the taut winch line. It looked like he did not have a tree strap either.
Steel lines are dangerous as they store energy like a rubber band. I've seen a line break before. It wrecked a guys tailgate on his pickup. Luckily the other end did not take out the grill and rad on the winch vehicle.



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