Spied! GM Contractor's Special Half-Ton Pickups

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Spy photography by Chris Doane Automotive

With all the attention lately on how small business and contractors are returning to the new truck market and updating their aging fleets, it looks like GM is poised to benefit with both a set of new trucks — the 2014 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 — as well as a new chassis-cab storage bed option.

Our spy shooters grabbed these photos of both Chevy and GMC versions in Michigan. They look to be undergoing durability and payload testing. It's also possible that GM has decided to strengthen its relationships with certain aftermarket companies that provide "special needs" modifications to chassis cabs in order to better serve municipalities or specific industries.

We'd expect these types of vehicles to make their appearance much later in the year as the more entry-level regular cab models (produced at the plant that comes online last for the new pickups) make it to dealerships. We'd also expect these special service models could be installed right on or after the production line with relatively few modifications, but it's likely that pricing will vary widely depending on the fleet options.

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I think it would be a great idea to also have cab chassis pickups.

You could then use traybacks (flatbeds) that are 6' 6" wide and 8' long. This would increase the versatility of the trucks immensely.

We have quite a few of specialty bodies for our cab chassis utes and they are great for the tradesman.

Like us your utes are cab chassis the best platform for any business to modify for work.

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Whats up with the yellow gas tank cap?

@HEMIi V8

Your like a retarded kid who shouts random words inappropriately in public and of course completely off topic.

I hope your not older than 30 because your just a loser at that point.

@machetephil The yellow cap means it is a flex fuel. At least it has in the past on other vehicles.

@ Andy's Garage

lol so true

@Big Al from Oz.
As well as Pickups you get them for Light Trucks as well.
http://www.dubbocitywelding.com/images/Isuzu/Isuzu1.jpg
Plus Pickups, quite a variety of upfitters and styles.
http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/130613/856r1/32634fj_20.jpeg

GM is going to make a big push in commercial trucks.

Is the rear sagging and riding really low is or is that just me? It just seems like there is no room for movement on that back axel.

They should atleast match the fender wells

Top two pics look low to me.

@ LawKat, @mp , @ Anthony_D85 - I doubt that they would be testing these trucks empty since utility bodies are rarely ever empty.

The Silverado looks better than the Sierra with the flat black grill but it does look like they just spray bombed a chrome grill on the Sierra.

This just in: Govn't Motors will be giving away free government cheese with every truck.

It's not empty. It's filled with government cheese.

Only way to test IMO.

@Bob - you must be a different Bob. The Bob we usually get around here would never ever say anything negative against GMC and Barrack Obama's government since they saved GMC and the UAW ;)

That Bob also known as Michigan Bob and the founder of TacomaWorld.com has retired from pickuptrucks.com He only posts accasionally now. He currently drives a 2007 Tacoma.

The Bobs were outed as fictional in 2010. The various Bobs, lead by Michigan Bob, are fictional GM fanboys, who post under different Bob names. However, they did not initially reveal their fictional nature of their posts. After the fictional status of the posts was revealed in 2010, it gradually evolved into a multi-character series of posters: Bob, Bobby, Detroit Bob, Michigan Bob, Bob's Chef, etc. It is believed that they work for a Tacoma forum that Bob founded or Toyota itself.

being anti-Bob will get you banned:
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/219041-suggestion-moderators-2.html#post5075004

@Greg - so you are saying that "Bob" was a troll who's objective was to disrupt this site?

That would never happen........

(that was meant as sarcasm)

1/2 ton utility truck? I don't think so. I bet it is a 3/4 set-up with special tires & wheels to fool everyone eyeballing the spy shots.

@Charlie - please note 6 lug wheels. HD's have 8 lugs.

He did not want to disrupt the site. It was more like a power rush or ego trip. As a Toyota man he gained energy by stiring up drama among Ford and GM owners.

Lou is being reverse-trolled by Greg aka Bob. Michigan Bob owns a 1990's Chevy pickup and is from Michigan. That is all we know.

British Columbia Bob is an informant that works for Bob. Bob is the founder of Tacoma World.

Truth be told I was just repeating what someone else said about Bob owning Taco World. I don't know if it is true or not or very much about the man.

Has Bob has managed to pull one over on all of you?

I don't know but I hate how the second someone ASSumes that Bob isn't real everyone is like "I knew he was a troll." If Bob isn't real he has managed to fool millions for the LONGEST time on pickuptrucks.com! That takes talent!

I still believe that Bob is real but he doesn't own a late model GM truck. That is why he doesn't reveal much about his truck. There's nothing wrong with that.

Bob is one of the most popular posters on PUTC and a legend. I look forward to more of his posts!

I heard a rumor that Michigan Bob works at his family's Chevy dealership. Cool for him...if it's true.

Hemiv8: they are talking about 1/2 ton trucks here, not HD's, and as we all know, a short wheelbase Ram reg cab would have no appealing GVWR or load capacity for any utility work truck with the ride tuned coil spring suspension, and do not even think about them having air bags, as that would be too expensive and not durable enough with the set up they have at the moment.


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@lou

It could be a light duty heavy duty. A 1500HD.
Chevy made a 1500HD in the 90s until 95 i think.
reminds me of fords 7 lug wheels a while back.

Well at least the back wheel well is round

@BAF0 - Some buyers do remove the pickup bed, store it and put it back when it's time to sell. Fleet customers are known for this, especially utility companies, cities and governments. They're mostly reusing a simple utility bed, box or flatbed with no hydraulics or other moving parts that wear out.

Pickup based utility trucks lose too much value, compared to civilian pickups. Used (bare) cab/chassis trucks are very hard to sell or get a decent amount of return. They don't even have "residual" or Blue Book value without a bed. And they can't even be driven on the street without a bed or some sort.

At the end of a commercial or utility pickup truck lease, you don't give it back to the lender. They don't want it. You own the truck 'outright' with what's called "salvage value".

@ machetephil: The 1500HD you're thinking of was, to the best of my knowledge, available only on the GMT800 platform in the early-mid 2000's. It was actually a 2500 (not 2500HD) crew cab 6.5' bed with the 6.0 and a "1500HD" badge on it for every year except 2004, when it actually did have a "2500" badge on it. But it was actually a 3/4-ton truck, unlike Ford's F-250 light duty, which was more like a heavy-1/2-ton.

The 7-lug F-250 was made for three years, 1997-99 (so it does overlap with the F-250 Super Duty for one year), and after 1999, it was offered as the "F-150 7700" (which was the GVWR) package until 2004, which was the start of the new model. The F-250/F-150 7700 was only available on a 139" WB (so RC 8' bed or SC 6.5' bed) with either the 4.6 or 5.4, but the 2004-2008 "Heavy-Duty Payload Package," (though the GVWR was now about 8200) was available on RC 8' bed (145" WB) and came _standard_ on SC 8' bed (163" WB), both with only the 5.4. Starting in 2011, the HD Payload Package was slightly tweaked; it was no longer standard on SCLB's, and became available on CC 6.5' beds (157" WB), all when equipped with either the 5.0 or the EcoBoost and a certain 3.73 rear end.

F-250's/F-150 7700's came with painted or chrome steel rims, depending on trim level (Standard, XL, XLT, or Lariat), but 2004-2010 F-150 HD's (XL or XLT only) were only available with painted steel rims that appeared outwardly identical to the base-model XL rims. From 2011 on, unique aluminum rims that once again "show off" the 7-lug bolt pattern are available on XL, standard on XLT and Lariat. Now, if only a King Ranch 6.5' bed was available as an HD...

I hope this post wasn't too confusing or long-winded. I merely seek to provide information to others, and I enjoy doing so.

@ machetephil: The 1500HD you're thinking of was, to the best of my knowledge, available only on the GMT800 platform in the early-mid 2000's. It was actually a 2500 (not 2500HD) crew cab 6.5' bed with the 6.0 and a "1500HD" badge on it for every year except 2004, when it actually did have a "2500" badge on it. But it was actually a 3/4-ton truck, unlike Ford's F-250 light duty, which was more like a heavy-1/2-ton.

The 7-lug F-250 was made for three years, 1997-99 (so it does overlap with the F-250 Super Duty for one year), and after 1999, it was offered as the "F-150 7700" (which was the GVWR) package until 2004, which was the start of the new model. The F-250/F-150 7700 was only available on a 139" WB (so RC 8' bed or SC 6.5' bed) with either the 4.6 or 5.4, but the 2004-2008 "Heavy-Duty Payload Package," (though the GVWR was now about 8200) was available on RC 8' bed (145" WB) and came _standard_ on SC 8' bed (163" WB), both with only the 5.4. Starting in 2011, the HD Payload Package was slightly tweaked; it was no longer standard on SCLB's, and became available on CC 6.5' beds (157" WB), all when equipped with either the 5.0 or the EcoBoost and a certain 3.73 rear end.

F-250's/F-150 7700's came with painted or chrome steel rims, depending on trim level (Standard, XL, XLT, or Lariat), but 2004-2010 F-150 HD's (XL or XLT only) were only available with painted steel rims that appeared outwardly identical to the base-model XL rims. From 2011 on, unique aluminum rims that once again "show off" the 7-lug bolt pattern are available on XL, standard on XLT and Lariat. Now, if only a King Ranch 6.5' bed was available as an HD...

I hope this post wasn't too confusing or long-winded. I merely seek to provide information to others, and I enjoy doing so.

Scheiße, it looks like my comment posted twice. Sorry about that.

@ David

so chevrolet did not build a 2500 light duty in the 90's . Until 95?

You have the HONORABLE Chevrolet Silverado and then have Obama's GovtMoCo Sierra in the same article?????? LOLOL.... SUCKS to be YOU Chevy guys. I STILL want MY Taxpayer dollars Back for this MESS! NO COMPANY NEEDS TWO TRUCKS! NOT on My Dime! Govt. WASTE! SCREW GovtMoCo trucks!

@ Mopar madness.whatever your name is.

I swear man eversince you started commenting on this website has gone downhill. your comments make no sense. I wish the administrators man up and kicked you out of here.

@MoparMadness

"I STILL want MY Taxpayer dollars Back for this MESS! NO COMPANY NEEDS TWO TRUCKS! NOT on My Dime! Govt. WASTE!"
Didn't somebody promise to mail you your two cents which was your complete contribution to GM so you could get a refund. I will go a step forward you say not on your dime well if you give me a good mailing address I will mail you your dime.

Hemiv8: they are talking about 1/2 ton trucks here, not HD's, and as we all know, a short wheelbase Ram reg cab would have no appealing GVWR or load capacity for any utility work truck with the ride tuned coil spring suspension, and do not even think about them having air bags, as that would be too expensive and not durable enough with the set up they have at the moment.


Posted by: sandman4X4 | Jul 24, 2013 9:26:55 PM

Good point, however i have seen no 1500 service bodies in 11 years of A/C and heating. Maybe that will change. I doubt it. It's all 2500's which Ram has plenty to offer.

@GM
The first paragraph of the blog you posted really says something, if you bothered to read it.


'We’ve made it our life’s work to make Silverado the benchmark of full-size pickups. Everything, from Silverado’s interior and exterior styling to ergonomics and performance, has been re-engineered. The new Silverado is stronger, smarter and more capable than ever.'


First GM pats itself on the back stating the Silverado is the benchmark of full size pickups. Then it goes on to explain the benchmark is a self comparison against previous Silverados, not Fiat/Ram or Ford.

It goes on to say it's FE is better than a Ford (it only uses the only engine that does this) and GM's non standardised/regulated towing limit is higher than another manufacturer. Everything else is smoke a mirror advertising. GM's perception.

It's almost false advertising, like a cosmetics commercial pushing those lotions to make you look younger.

So GM only has one engine that is producing better FE, now if it stated we will provide a 200 000 mile warranty to prove our belief in such a fantastic product, then I would support your blog.

@ machetephil: I think we both might be a little confused here: you by my comment, and myself by your original comment. Here's what I can tell you:

I know that from 1980-96, Ford offered light- and heavy-duty versions of the F-250, but there was no real way of distinguishing the two appearance-wise--except for a "HEAVY DUTY" badge under the "F-250" badge, the differences were all underneath. The light-duty F-250 was only available with the 300/4.9 I6, the 302/5.0, or the 351/5.8. The heavy-duty was only available with the 4.9, 5.8, 7.5 big-block or 7.3 diesel. Starting in 1997, the light duty F-250 took on the appearance of the new aerodynamic "jellybean"-style F-150.

I know that on their redesigned 1994 Ram, Dodge offered light- and heavy-duty versions of the 2500 model, with the light-duty only offering the 5.9 V8. HD's added the 8.0 V10 or the Cummins as optional engines. Again, the appearances were identical (no "heavy-duty" badge), but HD's had a full-float axle versus the semi-float of the light-duty's. According to the almighty Wikipedia, the 2500-HD was meant to replace the old non-dually D350, so if light- and heavy-duty models were offered prior to 1994, I have no knowledge of that.

Now, to answer your question (sorry it took so long): I just did some research, and it seems that Chevy _did_ offer a heavy-duty version of the 2500 (designated "C6P") on the old GMT400 ('88-'99) platform _and_ at least as early as 1990, if not 1988. It was available with (yikes!) the 4.3 V6 as standard equipment, but you could upgrade to the 5.7 or even the 454 or 6.2 Diesel (and most did). Further research suggests that heavier suspension and brakes were what contributed to a higher GVWR (8600 vs. 7200). But I've never seen any "HD" badge on any 2500's prior to the GMT800 ('99-'06 model), so I wrongfully assumed that no such thing existed. But that's what I assumed about Dodge until I got my hands on a '94 brochure.

So now, what I'm assuming is that each of the Big Three offered both light- and heavy-duty versions of their 3/4-ton trucks even as far back maybe into the 40's or possibly earlier.

If there's anyone out there who's bothered to read this far and wishes to make a correction or add to this information, please don't hesitate to do so.

@David - great piece of research. One of the easiest ways to tell a Ford 250 HD from a F250 LD was the full floating rear axle which was on the HD. A larger spring pack was also a difference. The locking hubs were larger in diameter in the HD as well. Tires also had a heavier load rating. I'm basing those comments on memory more than anything else. I owned a 1990 F250 "LD" reg cab long box 4x4 for 15 years.

@Big Al from Oz GM has two engines that beat Ford's FE numbers. The 4.3 and the 5.3 no 6.2 mpg numbers yet though.

GM did have a 1500 HD in the 90's. C5Z RPO code. They alternated between calling it a 1500hd or a 2500. They are easy to tell by looking at the rear axle, it is a 14bolt semi floating axle with 6 lug wheels.

All the B.S about Ram 1500s payload, yet we see this picture and we see how much it squats, lol. This is a new not 5 year old truck, and I don't think it's loaded that heavy.

They should leave this to 3/4 tons. What the heck, can't even have a diesel or manual trans. One option, a GM 6 speed. Yee haw.

Gm and their overrated (by themselves) trucks

@TRX 4 Tom

"Our spy shooters grabbed these photos of both Chevy and GMC versions in Michigan. They look to be undergoing durability and payload testing."

They load Chevy and Ford trucks Tom, mean while Ram uses their car springs LMAO.

@Mike - A friend of mine owned a Chevy 1500 HD. He liked it except the thing sucked fuel like it was 10cents/gallon. He had nothing but problems with the rear disc brakes. He traded it off on a Duramax HD crewcab. His monthly fuel bill dropped by 50%.

Yellow gas cap is right. It indeed is a gas and not gasoline. It is propane gas. I have used it in fleets since 1981 that have traveled over 25 million miles ( 40 million Kms ) since then. The North American grade of propane is HD5 when used for auto fuel. It has very strict upper limits of butane allowed of a max of just 6 percent. The hydrogen content of HD5 propane is 18 TIMES higher than CNG, Compressed Natural Gas. For this reason, you can travel about 35 percent farther on propane than CNG. The LPG, Liquid Petroleum Gas used in Europe and Asia is a completely different fuel, containing as much as 30 percent butane. It burns at a different rate of speed and has a different octane rating than HD5. Our good stuff in NA has an octane of 104.5 R+M rating, so the engine computer will advance the timing to take advantage of the fuel, giving more HP and better MPG. On the 2014 GM EcoTec3 Direct Injection engines on the pickups, the V6 with 11 to one and both the V8's with 11 1/2 to one compression ratio, will get better MPG on propane than gasoline for the first time ever. The lower BTU of propane compared to gasoline, in previous model years, showed a loss of MPG, but since the GM figures show a 15 Lbs feet of torque rise on the new EcoTec3 V6 on E85, over gasoline, this point to an even greater HP and torque increase for propane. Propane has a higher BTU than ethanol. On the EcoTec3 V8 of 5.3 Liters, the increase in HP on E85 went from 355 HP to 380 HP and torque went from 383 Lbs feet to 420 Lbs feet. On propane on the 5.3, with higher BTU, i estimated 390 to 395 HP and torque of 430 to 440 Lbs feet on propane. Those are GM numbers they posted for the E85 fuel, not some net geek. Google me to read about propane use in commercial vehicles like this MARK SMYTH PROPANE. About 25 to 45 articles will pop up, enough for 3 to 5 hours of reading.



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