Regular Cab Tacoma to Be History by 2015

Tacoma Reg front II

The midsize pickup truck segment has been on life support for almost two decades, with the current crop of competitors at the lowest number ever. Even though a new Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon will enter the market next year, other manufacturers are being cautious about how much they invest in this fickle U.S. segment.

Sales for small pickups during the last few years have remained flat, with pickups like the Ford Ranger and Suzuki Equator walking away from the segment entirely, the GM twins taking some time off and even Honda, with its Ridgeline, threatening to take a hiatus in order to save some plant remodeling money.

There's no question that for those who have toughed it out, there are other challenges as well. Vehicles like the Nissan Frontier and Toyota Tacoma are still quite popular but are selling a huge majority of their smaller pickups in relatively few flavors, mainly the four-door types. Offering a full lineup of regular, extended and crew cab models seems less important as more customers show preferences for versatile, passenger-friendly cabs. We would expect, especially if something more "entry level" was on the horizon, that some of these manufacturers would eliminate the smaller regular cabs altogether for the midsizers if they had the chance. And it looks like things might be headed in that direction.

Mike Connor (who we've never heard of or met at a press or new-truck drive event) is reporting in Motor Trend's Truck Trend Magazine that Toyota will dump the regular cab option from the 2015 Tacoma lineup. Of course, the regular cab isn't a huge seller and is typically the platform of choice for most small-business fleet purchases,making up less than 10percent of the total No. 1-selling Tacoma yearly sales volume.

Could this mean Toyota has plans for an actual compact pickup truck as a future product or could the next-generation Tacoma become even larger with a CrewMax model (similar to the Tundra), effectively making the Access Cab Tacoma the entry-level model? We like the former option, but we'll have to wait and see.

Tacoma Reg Cab II

Comments

That stinks I hope single cab trucks stay as not everyone needs to carry a bunch of stuff or people inside. I would have a single cab truck my self if I didn't have to carry around a people and a bunch of paper work and other crap that needs to stay dry.

There are surely millions of compact trucks in the used market. No one wants to spend almost 20K to one of these stripped regular cabs to deliver pizza when you can buy a nearly bulletproof 3 or 4 year old model for under ten grand that will serve you well for years and years. In 2004 I bought a 10 year old Ranger with over 100k on its non functioning old school odometer (it had a funky cable). I paid 2500 for a very clean ten year old truck that did not leak or smoke. It was a 2.3 with five sp manual. Put a water pump, new belt and plug wires on it. Never had to spend another dime except oil changes and rubber. It surely had over 250k when I finally traded it. Still ran great.

I could live without a regular cab so long as an extended cab were offered. I do not think it would be good if only an extended cab were offered but an extended cab is not much bigger nor is it much more in cost.

"The midsize segment has been on life support for two decades"
That's because the oem's haven't done much to 'keep up' on them.Get off your corporate asses and drop in a small clean diesel for the NA market and watch the trucks fly off the dealer lots.If the oem's let their cars get as stale as they let their trucks,what do you expect would happen?

If these trucklets were getting 30mpg. and stayed compact. there would be no problems. THEY SHOULD STAY SMALL.think about the DODGE D50 ISUZU PUPS TOYOTAS of the 80s and 90s

"On Life Support." So was Mitsubishi and Suzuki. And like the compact pickup market, those companies never updated and re-invented themselves for the market. The S-10 and Colorado (old generation) each stuck around way longer than the Full Size trucks in the price brackets above them. The ranger was unchanged for more than a decade (minus incredibly small cosmetics).

If the Ranger had been on the same refresh cycle as the Camry, it would of been updated 3 times inbetween its last update and its demise.

And think about it: Give it the Ford F-150s base 3.7L V6, and the 3.5L ecoboost as a range topper, and give it crew cab and you would have a competitive vehicle that could be sold at a profit at $30k (with the 3.7L V6, the ecoboost maybe closer to $35k-$37k)(add some stereo and touchscreen goodies too).

The marketplace didn't leave the compact trucks, the compact trucks were pulled out by the manufacturers. I am pricing a Ram 1500 with the ecodiesel, but I really want a Tacoma. I just can't see justifying a Tacoma over a SLT with Ecodiesel. If the Tacoma offered a little better mileage than a Ram with the V6 gasser, I could definitely go that route.

I own a 92 isuzu pickuptruck. while it only has a 2.3l 4 and a 5speed tranny. i loaded it up with branches from my tree cutting bussiness i have overloaded it several times. i am surpriced by how the little weak engine can still pull all that weight. and i also hooked it up to a trailer at the same time. because the the water pump quit on the ram1500. The point is that these truck need a little 2.0l diesel and watch the mpgs go up i get around 25 unloaded with stock tires. and 20 with 32 inch rires.

Maybe this means 2015 will finally get a redesign. It's 9 years old and counting right now.

A 2WD single cab with the V6 would have been a lot of fun if they'd ever made one.

Personally not opposed to losing the regular cab, so long as they DON'T eliminate the Maxi-Cab (extended cab) version. However, I will never willingly buy a crew cab, no matter how large or small it may be. I don't want four doors, I don't NEED four doors. I need the bed space that extra seat takes up.

Don't know why anybody would buy a regular cab anyway, an extended cab is so much more functional. IT is nice for parking and offroad because of the short wheelbase that that's an even tradeoff.

Orkin is going to be in a pickle.

Regular cabs aren't nearly as safe in a rollover, with a longer roof thier more area to support the weight of the truck not to mention any movement and crumpling of the roof is going to be directed at your head.

The problem I see is that the mid-sized market should have never happened. There should be two segments, a compact pickup using a small car engine between 2.0L and 2.4L of displacement and able to fit into a garage, get 27-33MPG, and be simple and bare bones as possible. Then we should have the full size truck with a V6 or V8 and everything you can throw at it.

You can not justify buying a small pickup truck that cost about 85% or more than the base cost of a full size truck and has little, if any difference in fuel economy or TCO.

Well your CAFE footprint, is sure killing pickups.

It's okay, in a decade when a fullsize has to be the size of a HD and costs are much higher due to the technologies/materials to keep them viable you can thank the UAW/Big 3/Government for taking such good care of you guys.

I told you so a while ago, but I'm anti-American, remember.

Thier's enough price difference between them about the same amount as the differance between a mid size and full size car maybe a bit more. Yea if your comparing a loaded Mid size truck against a base full size then its closer but you have to compare apples to apples. The problem is these trucks havn't been updated in years and they've fallen behind at which point the full size is a better value, but update the smaller trucks and you will have a much more competitive product.

Well your CAFE footprint, is sure killing pickups.

It's okay, in a decade when a fullsize has to be the size of a HD and costs are much higher due to the technologies/materials to keep them viable you can thank the UAW/Big 3/Government for taking such good care of you guys.

I told you so a while ago, but I'm anti-American, remember.

Well your CAFE footprint, is sure killing pickups.

It's okay, in a decade when a fullsize has to be the size of a HD and costs are much higher due to the technologies/materials to keep them viable you can thank the UAW/Big 3/Government for taking such good care of you guys.

I told you so a while ago, but I'm anti-American, remember.

Well your CAFE footprint, is sure killing pickups.

It's okay, in a decade when a fullsize has to be the size of a HD and costs are much higher due to the technologies/materials to keep them viable you can thank the UAW/Big 3/Government for taking such good care of you guys.

I told you so a while ago, but I'm anti-American, remember.

Well your CAFE footprint, is sure killing pickups.

It's okay, in a decade when a fullsize has to be the size of a HD and costs are much higher due to the technologies/materials to keep them viable you can thank the UAW/Big 3/Government for taking such good care of you guys.

I told you so a while ago, but I'm anti-American, remember.

Who is Mike Connor?

Mike Connor = Denver Mike?

The new Ram diesel is suppose to get about 30 mpg highway. Just think what a reg. cab Tacoma would get with a 2.0 liter diesel. The new Cruze is rated 46 mpg and Motor Trend averaged 42+ in overall driving and did a 0-60 in 8.6 second. They should do this to the Tacoma.

The reason these smaller pickups quit selling is because of greed. The auto companies didn't update these pickups in the same way they did the larger size trucks. They could make so much more money on the larger trucks than the smaller trucks thus, let's get rid of them. Manufacturers fooled the public into thinking they needed the giant gorillas to go to the grocery store. The companies have robbed the public of choices. I have a 2000 Ranger that I will probably trade for a Nissan Frontier when the time comes.

I possible cant be the only guy on here that thinks a regular cab is the best looking trucks on the road ?

Its a god dam shame the a little hot rod 1/2 ton 6(ft)bed truck could be extinct by 2020!

Big deal if its a roughly 10% take on regular cabs , ten %is ten% !!!

Regular cabs should always be offered -period !!!

lol at the above comment. When did a company fool anyone into think they needed the biggest trucks to go to the grocery store? Have they put out a TVC depicting such a thing? No, they put out ads showing what these big trucks can do and it is the consumer who thinks "that would be awesome, I really want that, even if I never need it!" It is the consumer telling the manufacturers what they want them to produce with their money.

@alex, I' m just stating that the 10-20% of r/c buyers don't care for or like anything else besides a r/c . They serve there propose and still sell well .

I feel like the level of r/c has more or less stabilized , sales won't go up or down at this point .

Sorry Gpz85, it was directed at GoFaster58.

I can understand people liking single cabs, just like johnny doe said. But also, like he admitted, they just are not practical enough. Laws of economics should decide what stays in production, not a bunch of people who just decide what they like and don't like.

I would rather see the choice of bed lengths limited to two , there for possible keeping r/c alive .

Correct me if wrong but don't most all manufactures offer 3?

As for the little trucks , not sure what to think. I still feel like if a 2014 ,15,16 mid size can get 30mpgs it will sell very well. Like 1985- to late 90s levels .

Here is a link to show why it is sad to see the demise of the single cab Taco and the smaller pickups in the NA market. You would think the governments would entice this style of vehicle.

I hope the US regulators stop being short sighted and look to the future, I'm only talking 20 years out.

The current estimate is Brent will be about $185 per barrel in 2020. That's only six and a half years away. This will push up the cost of a gallon of gas to $7.

Have a read, sobering information.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/commodity-supercycle-far-from-dead-20130802-2r39r.html

I haven't owned a regular cab truck in over 12 years, but I could see an advantage of a regular cab if you wanted a truck that was closer to the older compact pickups., I myself have 1 extended cab and 1 crew cab so I really not as concerned about eliminating the regular cab as long as an extended cab is still available. Just as long as Tacoma is available and it does not grow anymore. I do agree with Big Al that pickups will get much more expensive with aluminum and other types of more exotic metals to lower the weight and retain the size of the full size pickups. This will render trucks more expensive and less popular which begs the argument in favor of global trucks and clean efficient diesel engines. I am not saying this will happen but it sure makes it a more feasible option.

@DeverMike/Paul/Tom Lemon/Greg Baird/TRX4Tom/Dave/Hemi V8/Tom Terrific/sandman 4x4/lautenslager/zveria/Bob/US Truck Driver/Glenn/Jason/Hemi Rampage/smartest truck guy/Maxx/SuperDuty37/Ken/Ron or whoever you want to call yourself.

Quit the crap, really.

It's getting long in the tooth.

You want to debate, but it has to be on your terms.

Learn to debate with good information, then we might be able to have a decent debate.

Opinions are good, but if they are only your view to support the UAW, then how good are they. Look at what you guys have done to Detroit.

Terror tactics (union tactics) don't work on me.

If PUTC wants the UAW or whatever to control this site I suppose it's their decision.

It's not kids like I've been told by PUTC.

They don't seem to care. So this will go on.

@DeverMike/Paul/Tom Lemon/Greg Baird/TRX4Tom/Dave/Hemi V8/Tom Terrific/sandman 4x4/lautenslager/zveria/Bob/US Truck Driver/Glenn/Jason/Hemi Rampage/smartest truck guy/Maxx/SuperDuty37/Ken/Ron/Alex or whoever you want to call yourself.

Quit the crap, really.

It's getting long in the tooth.

You want to debate, but it has to be on your terms.

Learn to debate with good information, then we might be able to have a decent debate.

Opinions are good, but if they are only your view to support the UAW, then how good are they. Look at what you guys have done to Detroit.

Terror tactics (union tactics) don't work on me.

If PUTC wants the UAW or whatever to control this site I suppose it's their decision.

It's not kids like I've been told by PUTC.

They don't seem to care. So this will go on.

If people really weren't buying midsize trucks, which isn't true, it's because they're nearly the same price, size, and fuel efficient as fullsize but without as much capability. In some cases it was a better deal to move up in size.

I'm not looking for a single cab midsize but I may have considered one in a couple years. It's the manufacturer's decision but a disappointing one in an industry push to eliminate inexpensive small trucks without replacement models.

@Jeff S
I'm seeing the diesel Euro style vans and trucks as the replacement for the smaller work trucks in the US.

The 1/2 ton pickups will become fully fledged SUVs with more utility than a SUV ie, to carry a sheet of ply or tow a trailer.

This is sad to see. The Taco is a much better truck than the out to date pile of junk Rectum Ranger ever was.

@FordTrucks77

The Ranger was awesome for what it was: a cheap, practical vehicle. My 92 treated me well, which the exception of the wheel well rust (common in trucks at the time) and an endlessly leaking rad. But hey, I didn't pay much for it, and it didn't put much money into it.

Honestly, up north in Canada, the only regular cab trucks I see belong to the city, or Weed Man. Everyone else prefers at least an extended cab, and I don't blame them.

bigalofoz: do not include me on any of your blame spewing posts! I have no idea what you are talking about, and for what I see, it is your random repeated posts that annoy me more than all the fanbois together. Great, you live down under, we get that and we also get you folks eer blokes do things a little different down there, but please stop telling us how everything down there is so much better than anywhere else, it is getting tiring and you are starting to make you fellow blokes look like they have a problem that we all know does not exists.

@sandman4x4: Big Al's repeated posts are not directly his fault; they're relayed by satellite and apparently get echoed usually about 5 times. On the one occasion that I have used satellite internet, the same thing happened to me.

However, he has been the target of a lot of malicious commentary and like you, he finally got disgusted with it. More and more it seems the commentary of a single person based on the language used and the way the individual writes, despite using a plethora of usernames in an effort to disguise that it's really one person AND an effort to claim a majority of readers on this blog agree with him.

Maybe you have been added to that list because you have become another anti-Al commentator.

This is terrible news for cheapskates like me... I've always recommended buying one before they take them away. They're almost too good to be true and I WILL buy while they still make them. Although I'll get it used, like the rest of use cheapos

@Vulpine and sandman4x4
I haven't generated the blog directed at the other bloggers. This blog was generated by another person.

The blog under my name above that was repeated about 5 times was my blog. All you have to do is look at the times at which the recurring blogs takes place. This occurs at random and not always. But there are some blogs that are being generated by an unknown:) problem on this site.

So, sandman4x4 since you are a relatively constant blogger on this site you would or should have known that the blog with all of the names on it wasn't generated by me. As this blog keeps on recurring, that is someone is doing this to be disruptive.

If I have a comment to direct towards you I will direct it as I'm doing now. You apparently didn't use enough deductive power to realise this. So, in the future whinging to me isn't going to aid the situation.

Unless, this oversight you have displayed isn't really an oversight:)

@sandman4X4
I have nothing against most of you guys.

But you all sat back and let me be attacked and multi posted and not one of you stood up to the fools causing the disruption. Now defend them?

When I defend myself against them you reject what I say?

No, be a little more consistent with your critisism.

TRX4 Tom is an aggresive fool, dominating. Hemi V8 posts crap and DenverMike is a lying troll. From what I can gather they seem to be one.

I do know this site is supposed to be a forum.

I will lay off of the fools, but I do expect you guys to offer support.

Or just sit back like what has been going on and it will continue until they they are caught out.

There is also more going on than meets the eye.

Reminds me of the time when I got my tonsils and adenoids removed. I felt shy and outcastlike. But at least I had my dignity, and my groupon!

All my posts on pickuptrucks.com have been from a nuetral point of view. Many of my posts relate trucks on the market here in Australia with trucks sold in the U.S.; and this is often misconstrued as cultural bias or Anti-Americanism. A little more respect is all I ask for.

@ Big Al from Oz Post more like RobertRyan and you get a lot more respect. We like hearing bout the other parts of world and their trucks, but lately you be come off as Australia/Europe makes the best everything. I've told you this a few months ago think about how you say things, and how others may take it how you say it.

One of BAFO's many problems is his ego won't allow him to accept most on PUTC don't agree with his ignorant and arrogant views. It must conclude for him it's one single person posting under 20 or so different user names. Each with their own distinct point of view and often argue among themselves, like myself and TRX4, HEMI V8, sandman and others. Crazy is right.

I don't know why he comes here or what's his motivation to disrupt each and every tread and admits to using several 'user names', like "apollo 13 is watching :)". And I don't care.

@Uhh john doe you can't be serious RoberRyan is a huge euro/aussie centric moron who is constantly spewing anti-american bullshit.

His posts add basically nothing of value and importance to the topics at hand.

By the way Denver RobertLyan has insulted you many times, and accuses you of being several accounts that you probably aren't.

Also I don't think the most recent comment was actually from BAFO, it didn't sound like something he would write. It was probably a poser, who either sides with Al, or is trying to make him look bad.

I actually enjoy reading some of Al from Oz' posts, but add the most value to this site you should be from North America.

@Denver as Vulpine said on the TTAC forum that you US many
Aliases to get your antiforeign ,midsize pro UAW views. Everyone knows where you or the orginization that backs you stand. How about something that is not from the "party line "

The single cab has become irrelevant in the marketplace. It is not much more cost to add a foot or two to the cab size and when you are looking at production cost it is much easier to limit choices and have less options. Limit body styles, interior choices, limited exterior choices, and limited trim choices especially if the vehicle being produced is lower price and less profit margin. If you go on cars.com and build you own you will see that the base Tacoma is limited to a gray cloth interior and about 6 exterior colors and options such as rear sliding window. Go to the next trim level and a few additional colors and options. This is not just Tacoma, Ranger had the same as other manufacturers as well.

Option and color choices become less limited on more expensive vehicles as the Ram, F-150, and Silverado because those are more expensive and profitable, but even on those there is less choice of interior and exterior colors and less options that can be added to a trim level. In order to get leather interior you will have to buy a package that adds additional options that you might not really want. This is true of all manufacturers.

@Big Al from Oz--Many Americans feel threatened by globalization and the changes it has brought about. Change is never all good or all bad, but change is inevitable. Just as the British Empire a century ago the US is transitioning from the Number 1 World power into a lesser power--still very influential but just not the main power. Our vehicles are changing along with our way of life. Some of the changes will be missed and others will be embraced. The key will be to adapt to changes and to make the best of them. It is much easier to point fingers and accuse a person of being anti-American than to have a meaningful discussion.

@JeffS

Catalityc converters. seatbels. gm square wheel wells. Our cars and trucks keep changing. one thing i wont accept is the goverment taking pickuptrucks away from us. i will hang on to my 1985toyota and1992 isuzu truck untill they fall apart. i dont care if they tell me they polute alot.

Good. Reg cabs are a waste of manufacturing dollars.



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