Best-Selling Pickup Trucks: September 2013

Fords Pair 2013 II

Although the overall auto industry slowed a bit for September, the news continues to be pretty good for pickup truck sales. The top five selling pickups so far this year are up an average of 20 percent from this time last year. The only negative numbers seem to be coming from the monthly sales figures when compared to September 2012; however, we should note that because of some calendar shifts and differences from last year to this year, 2012 had three more days of selling than 2013. That has a lot to do with why the month-over-month numbers don't look so good. Still, Ford's F-Series and Ram pickup sales, and even the Honda Ridgeline, are on a strong upward pace to finish the year with solid profits.

The full-size pickup segment remains strong, with certain popular models outstripping supply. You can bet all the big players are going to focus like a laser on squeezing the most production out of each of their truck plants to finish the year strong, which many analysts are saying will likely hit 16 million units by year end. Although the crown for best-selling half-ton and midsize seems like a done deal, the final tallies in the remaining months will be fun to watch.

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Ford 559,506 (Only F-Series)
GM 518,030 (All truck Divisions)

LMFAO!!!

@Frank Yes and look how much Ford is throw on the hood. Wasn't that long ago everyone was whining cause GM was give big incentives now Ford is doing it.

Hilarious, isn't?

Can I laugh with you?

Who did the math for you?

Ford incentives and sales haven't changed.

Throw in the towell Toyota.
No body is buying the Tundra, no matter how much you throw on the hood.

This is because ford and dodge have fire sale ,,and for gm people waiting for gm to get a better deal for 2014,,,,,,gm dealer said to wait after December to get good deal on 2014,,,

@Dean Oh yes they have.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20130923/RETAIL/309239956/the-pickup-wars:-ford-under-siege#axzz2gVd5YmjN

How does incentives from one other competitor explain every "truck" that GM makes being in the red besifes the Escalade? Maybe those fanboys who only bought GM because it was a family tradition are finally going out actually test drive what the competition has to offer, and finding out that all the bullshit that Chevy spewed was a lie. I know Cehvy owners that will say everything else is junk, but have never even driven anything else all their life. Chevy does not make the same kind of trucks that I remember riding shotgun with my Dad in. The bean coubters took over and ruined it. The same was happening to Fordnin the early 2000s, but luckily Bill Ford had enough balls and commen sense to step down and hire someone who could turn it around like Alan Mulally. He is the single defining reason Ford won and was awarded the Advance Technology Vehicle Manufacturing Loan while the others were getting bailouts.

I see the redesigned Tundra is bowling them over!!!

My guess is GM is down because the early adopters got their trucks and the 2013 are slim pickings. Then there is probably another group waiting for the 6.2, High Country and Denali release. Lets not for get the single cabs haven't really hit yet either.

My guess is the 2014 GM trucks so far have been a high percentage of retail sales.

Last month I went looking at 2wd LTZs and even stacking incentives was only able to get about $2500 off MSRP. So I've decided to wait till next summer.

Man Chevy sales aren't looking good. Can't believe Im saying this but i believe Ram will at some point over take Chevy for number two. Doesn't surprise me.

My GM dealer told me to wait until after the new year to get several thousand dollars off the new full size trucks.

@All1 What in the world are you talking about 2014 Chevys are fly off the lots so fast their having a hard time building them fast enough to keep up with demand. Then you add in two less days compare too last years September for sale days

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-29/gm-said-to-have-limited-supply-of-most-popular-v-8-pickup.html

(The only negative numbers seem to be coming from the monthly sales figures when compared to September 2012; however, we should note that because of some calendar shifts and differences from last year to this year, 2012 had three more days of selling than 2013. That has a lot to do with why the month-over-month numbers don't look so good.)

If you would of read the story above the sale numbers you people could of figured it out.

@frank

GM is no.1 globally so what's your point?

Yup all you GM dudes & Ram/ Dodge/ Fiat dudes can just get used to it month after month & year after year! Lol who's your Daddy & The King of a Real Mans truck! FORD! Period! As for Toyota , Nissan, lol your just pathetic!

Remember McDoonalds sells more hamburgers, but that doesn't mean it is the best hamburger...

Oh boy. Stanky Franky is back to louse up another thread with his trolling. What a dolt.

Things are slowing down now that interest rates are climbing and home construction is slowing.

Look at the new Silverado compared to the F-150. The truck is a dog. The GM truck looks slightly better but it's a damn GM.

@Johnnie Doe - did you look at the information on the link you posted?
"Average per-vehicle incentive, August

Chevrolet Silverado 1500 $4,892
Ram 1500..................... $4,692
Ford F-150.................... $4,656
GMC Sierra.................... $4,304
Toyota Tundra.............. $3,688

Average transaction prices, August

Ford F-150..................... $39,476
GMC Sierra 1500............. $39,055
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 $36,814
Toyota Tundra............... $36,414
Ram 1500..................... $36,213

This shows that Chevy has the highest factory incentives with middle of the pack sales price. Okay for a consumer but sucks for corporate profits.

Interestingly enough, Ram has the 2nd highest incentives and the poorest sales margin for Ram.

@ charlie

the tundras are off due to the cutback of production moving from 13 models to the 14s. the 14's are just now starting to be in stock enough for people to see them.

Maybe those fanboys who only bought GM because it was a family tradition are finally going out actually test drive what the competition has to offer, and finding out that all the bullshit that Chevy spewed was a lie.


-GM is Not Chevrolet in most people's minds. GM ruined Chevrolet. They are essentially evil to the Bowtie crowd. Ruined at the alter of GMC and the rest. I know of no Chevrolet guy who likes GM.

F-Series Trucks outsold combined sales of Silverado and Sierra in Sept. by 14,512 units (60,456 vs. 45,944) #BuiltFordTough

@johnny doe-
You typed the following:
"throw" for throwing
"fly" for flying
"their" for they're
"compare" for compared
"too" for to
then you typed to All1:
"if you would read the story..."
then miath typed to you:
"listening to you I see we are like same smartness....2 people with singel brain"
My gosh, you and miath have managed to embarrass the entire online truck enthusiast community.

@Lou_BC Them incentives are only for the few remaining 2013 model Chevy and GMC trucks, Not the new 2014s read the whole story.

@Johnny Yes I make spelling errors some times, but I got the balls to admit it. I don't have a big fancy PHD in English so sue me.

@Ron What hell are you talkin about? I will by a Silverado in a heartbeat as well as a Sierra. If people think GM ruined Cherolet then that is just ignorance.

Ford incentives are for the remaining 2013 F-150 since the 2014 F-150 is not available yet.

These are the current rebates on the 2014.

2014 Silverado: $1,000.
2014 F-150: $0.00

Incentives haven't gone up for Ford In fact they went down.

Put me down for a 2014 Power Wagon please. With class leading 6.4 Hemi horsepower and torque with 4:56 gears. 500 watt Alpine 9 speaker surround sound audio, sun roof, leather,silver,black bumpers and black grill. :)

@Lou Didn't you read the link we gave you?

Doug Scott, Ford's truck marketing manager, said Ford can afford to pay higher incentives because its 2014 models won't go on sale until the fourth quarter.

"We have an advantage in that we have a later changeover. The Silverado and Sierra are '14 models. That is becoming a more predominant part of their mix. Ram has already transitioned. Our transition is later. We don't start building the 2014 F-150s until the end of October or early November. As a consequence we're selling '13s while the other guy's selling '14s. That gives somewhat of an advantage because incentives are going to be higher on '13s than on '14s."

In addition to incentives, Ford is bolstering its 2014 lineup with new variations, including an upscale Tremor sport truck and an STX Crew Cab aimed at value-conscious buyers. Ford is aiming at buyers in the under-$30,000 sticker range to augment its leadership in high-end trucks above $40,000, Scott said.

Rivals aren't sitting still. Dave Elshoff, spokesman for Ram, said: "We're leading with product strategy. The answer is diesel. It's an absolute game-changer in the half-ton market."

Ram will introduce a 3.0-liter, six-cylinder diesel in the 2014 Ram around the first of next year, giving Ram a powertrain option its light-duty competitors don't have.

"The track record of Ram brand since it was created in 2009 is to gain about 8 points of share. That's share we've earned from our competitors."

Chevrolet has gotten a boost from positive reviews of the new Silverado, a pickup that initially was criticized as too conservatively styled

when it was first shown early this year. In a test pitting the market's newest entrants against each other, Consumer Reports magazine recently gave the Silverado a slight edge over the Ram in a test of the market's two latest entrants.
Ford's F series continues to lead full-sized pickups with 39.4 percent of the market through August.

The F-150 wasn't tested, but the magazine noted a next-generation model is coming in 2015.

Polk's Libby said the Detroit 3 continue to reap benefits from their pickup dominance as pickup sales outpace the market.

"If you're able to compete in this full-sized segment, it's a huge benefit in terms of market share and profitability. Those who aren't participating aren't benefitting from the growth in the segment. It [the segment] is so tempting because of the volume and profitability. This is an ongoing strength of GM, Ford and Fiat-Chrysler. While there are Asians in the segment, their share is very low."

http://www.autonews.com/article/20130923/RETAIL/309239956/the-pickup-wars:-ford-under-siege#axzz2gVd5YmjN

@LOU IS A TROLL - you got nailed for the "Fake Lou" posts so now you have changed your name.

How original.

A person who is dead does not realize that they are dead. It just happened to be tough on those who knew the person.

In your case...........we substitute stupid for dead.

The linke Johnny Doe gave doesn't say it is only for 2013, but if the Chevy incentives are for the so "few" remaining 2013's and the overall average is higher than Ford, then the 2013 Chevy incentives must be out of this world. I'm not buying it. Either way the Chevy incentives are higher.

@Lou Nobody that I know of was nailed for posts and the fake" Lou was not me. You missed that part from the article that backs up what johnny doe said about Ford doing big incentives. Stop trolling and trying to change the subject.

@Dead.......... big incentives?

Since you are not self aware of "being dead", the link you cut and pasted from said "Ford can afford to pay higher incentives because its 2014 models won't go on sale until the fourth quarter."

It doesn't say that they are offering big incentives, it says that they can afford to.

The Tables I "cut and paste" show that Ford isn't playing the deep incentives game "yet".

Ford has seen what Ram is bringing to the table - 6.4 hemi, 8 speed, air ride, grill shutters, 3.0 V6 diesel.
Ford has seen what GMC is bringing to the table - 4.3V6, 5.3, 6.2, crewcab with 6.5 box, rear disc brakes.

The most important part of that story isn't about incentives but this line "We have an advantage in that we have a later changeover."

Ford has at least 6 months to adjust their next gen 2015 models to beat the competition.

GMC and Ram will have 6 months to build market share and exploit the current advantage they have over Ford.

Will Ford play the incentives game? That is the only option they have to negate the competition's short term product advantage.

Lou is a smelly pirate hooker.

GM rolls out deals on new pickups as sales slide
http://www.autonews.com/article/20131001/RETAIL01/310019946/1448

McNeil confirmed that GM today began offering fresh incentives on the '14 pickups, but he didn't discuss them in detail. He said the move was planned and was not a response to competitive pressure.

Rox Covert, who owns two Chevy stores near Austin, Texas, says Ford and Ram have gotten more aggressive with incentives to blunt GM's pickup launches. He has seen some Ford dealers advertise $12,000 in savings on the F-150.

Chevy and GMC dealers have been able to counter the steep discounts with their own heavy incentives on the 2013 pickups, while selling the full-priced 2014 models to early adopters. But with many stores running out of '13 models, dealers will be looking for incentives on the new truck, Covert says.

Mitchell Dale, owner of McRee Ford in Dickinson, Texas, near Houston, says: "Over the last 60 days, F-series incentives have been at or higher than levels we've seen in the last year or so. You've got over $9,000 if you take all the discount packages and special bonus packages on the XLT. Both Chevrolet and Ford are advertising $9,000. It's a good time to buy no matter what the brand."

Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20130923/RETAIL/309239956/the-pickup-wars:-ford-under-siege#ixzz2gY5uiDx0

Can't make it any more clear copy and paste right from the story.


Re: GM Said To Be Limiting Dealer Orders Of V-8 Pickups

Our store had been timid about ordering our first 4.3L V6. Not that we where not confident in its capability... more that we feared customer acceptance and the added hurdle of another objection. So we decided to hold off on 4.3L orders until we had a healthy selection of 5.3L on the lot.
I'm sure our approach was mirrored by many other stores.
Shortly after launch, when the 4.3L came on-line, the 5.3L went on constraint...
GM saw dealer reluctance to order the V6 and forced our hands. "OK, ABC Motors, you get 3 Silverado 1500 Crews this week. BTW, 5.3L is on constraint and you can only have one. Enjoy those V6s!"
My conspiracy theory in a nut-shell... there is no shortage of 5.3L capacity. GM just wants to make sure dealers don't order 100% 5.3L and the constraint is how they are doing it. I don't blame them.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f13/gm-said-limiting-dealer-orders-v-8-pickups-136569/

That's a very enlightening post. Thanks for sharing it. I suspect you're on to something.

"Ford 559,506 (Only F-Series)
GM 518,030 (All truck Divisions)"

LMFAO!!!

Frank proves once again that you can't cure stupid. But even Frank knows the huckster shift, he cites F series only....F150 up to F950. GM count is only the 1500-3500. Remove the semis, garbage truck, delivery trucks and everything else ford tries to count as a pick up and GM has out sold ford 25 years running. Congratulations GM on having the best selling pick up truck 25 years running. When you are the best, you don't have to fudge the score...Ford=loser.
LMFAO!

Its good to see how some guys debate the advantage and how sales are going in the US pickup market.

I just hope some of you aren't tax agents or trying to balance a household budget.

Here is what I see as an outsider, with none of the bullsh!t.

1. F trucks, Chevs, Rams, GMC and I'll even throw in Taco's are quite comparable in sales performance increases.

2. I can't believe how well the Escalade increased sales. I suppose some Eskimo's will buy ice for their coolers.

3. Chev and Ram will not keep up with Ford. We have similar situation with the Hilux in Australia, who would buy one! But they lead the sales chart. As Lou pointed out in 12 months it will be interesting to see the numbers.

4. Nissan had better get the new Titan out soon, or else?

5. Taco's sell approx 40% of Ram numbers, but how many of those Rams are HDs? So how many 1/2 ton Rams are sold, actually what are the 1/2 ton numbers (including the midsizers, Ridgeline, Avalanche, Escalade, etc).

Its good to see how some guys debate the advantage and how sales are going in the US pickup market.

I just hope some of you aren't tax agents or trying to balance a household budget.

Here is what I see as an outsider, with none of the bullsh!t.

1. F trucks, Chevs, Rams, GMC and I'll even throw in Taco's are quite comparable in sales performance increases.

2. I can't believe how well the Escalade increased sales. I suppose some Eskimo's will buy ice for their coolers.

3. Chev and Ram will not keep up with Ford. We have similar situation with the Hilux in Australia, who would buy one! But they lead the sales chart. As Lou pointed out in 12 months it will be interesting to see the numbers.

4. Nissan had better get the new Titan out soon, or else?

5. Taco's sell approx 40% of Ram numbers, but how many of those Rams are HDs? So how many 1/2 ton Rams are sold, actually what are the 1/2 ton numbers (including the midsizers, Ridgeline, Avalanche, Escalade, etc).

Its good to see how some guys debate the advantage and how sales are going in the US pickup market.

I just hope some of you aren't tax agents or trying to balance a household budget.

Here is what I see as an outsider, with none of the bullsh!t.

1. F trucks, Chevs, Rams, GMC and I'll even throw in Taco's are quite comparable in sales performance increases.

2. I can't believe how well the Escalade increased sales. I suppose some Eskimo's will buy ice for their coolers.

3. Chev and Ram will not keep up with Ford. We have similar situation with the Hilux in Australia, who would buy one! But they lead the sales chart. As Lou pointed out in 12 months it will be interesting to see the numbers.

4. Nissan had better get the new Titan out soon, or else?

5. Taco's sell approx 40% of Ram numbers, but how many of those Rams are HDs? So how many 1/2 ton Rams are sold, actually what are the 1/2 ton numbers (including the midsizers, Ridgeline, Avalanche, Escalade, etc).

Its good to see how some guys debate the advantage and how sales are going in the US pickup market.

I just hope some of you aren't tax agents or trying to balance a household budget.

Here is what I see as an outsider, with none of the bullsh!t.

1. F trucks, Chevs, Rams, GMC and I'll even throw in Taco's are quite comparable in sales performance increases.

2. I can't believe how well the Escalade increased sales. I suppose some Eskimo's will buy ice for their coolers.

3. Chev and Ram will not keep up with Ford. We have similar situation with the Hilux in Australia, who would buy one! But they lead the sales chart. As Lou pointed out in 12 months it will be interesting to see the numbers.

4. Nissan had better get the new Titan out soon, or else?

5. Taco's sell approx 40% of Ram numbers, but how many of those Rams are HDs? So how many 1/2 ton Rams are sold, actually what are the 1/2 ton numbers (including the midsizers, Ridgeline, Avalanche, Escalade, etc).

Its good to see how some guys debate the advantage and how sales are going in the US pickup market.

I just hope some of you aren't tax agents or trying to balance a household budget.

Here is what I see as an outsider, with none of the bullsh!t.

1. F trucks, Chevs, Rams, GMC and I'll even throw in Taco's are quite comparable in sales performance increases.

2. I can't believe how well the Escalade increased sales. I suppose some Eskimo's will buy ice for their coolers.

3. Chev and Ram will not keep up with Ford. We have similar situation with the Hilux in Australia, who would buy one! But they lead the sales chart. As Lou pointed out in 12 months it will be interesting to see the numbers.

4. Nissan had better get the new Titan out soon, or else?

5. Taco's sell approx 40% of Ram numbers, but how many of those Rams are HDs? So how many 1/2 ton Rams are sold, actually what are the 1/2 ton numbers (including the midsizers, Ridgeline, Avalanche, Escalade, etc).

Ok boys, ask youre self one question. WHO HAS THE HIGHEST RESALE AND RETAINED VALUE ??

I think Nissan is down becuase they just aren't making many Titans right now more of just a place holder until the new model shows up, your lucky to fine on one on the lot in any of the dealers around here.

@tj - your "Ford counts everything" argument has been disproven multiple times on PUTC.

Ford counts up to F450 as F series.
Ram counts up to 4500.
GMC doesn't make anything bigger than 3500.

It has been shown that when sales data is broken out to size -
F150 outsells Silverado 1500
F150 outsells Sierra 1500
If GMC combines Sierra and Silverado 1500, they outsell Ford.
When it comes to HD's, GMC doesn't even come close.



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