My Pickup: Operation Tugboat, Part 3

1a Tugboat frt II

By G.R. Whale

Editor's note: My Pickup is an occasional PUTC feature in which we invite readers, industry associates, friends and colleagues to write about their own pickups, either currently owned or from their past. We introduced the column in October and will be adding it to our editorial mix every few weeks. This is Part 3 of a four-part series detailing Four Wheeler magazine's Operation Tugboat, about a 1992 Dodge W250 Club Cab 4x4.

A buzz from Four Wheeler's reception let me know that UPS had just delivered parts for Tugboat. They were big, ugly, smelled bad and needed to be moved right away. Some office staffers didn't appreciate the pungent odor of new mud terrains tires or leaky 90-weight synthetic grease containers; it didn't help that their offices were closer to my stored parts than my office was.

So in the name of keeping the peace, we started installing parts. If you've done your own project truck, you know problems usually arise almost immediately, and that was no different with Operation Tugboat. The Weld wheels fit our Dodge but their large-diameter straight lug holes required some adapters and special lug nuts, turning the first "simple" swap we had planned into a weeklong ordeal. With 33s mounted to the new wheels, the odometer and speedometer were closer to correct. Thankfully, that meant we had better flotation and ride (with almost 2 more inches of sidewall flex), and fender trimming was minor.

All the electronics we ordered went in pretty easily, despite the mutterings of our editor about previous bad experiences. We worked with the pros at The Turbo Shop to improve the breathing — the Dodge's standard exhaust was severely constrained at and near the transfer case. A larger intercooler and fuel pump adjustment brought power up substantially (to 195 horsepower and 500-plus pounds-feet of torque at the rear wheels, according to TTS' dyno) and brought exhaust gas temperature down without any penalty in fuel economy. TTS also installed one of BD Diesel Performance's first inline, electric-valve exhaust brakes, activated by a pull switch on the transmission stick. That huge solenoid and the thunk it made was typically at ear-level to the drivers of most cars on the road, and it usually scared the bejeebers out of them when I activated it.

 

2 Exhaust brake II

 

We later returned to TTS to have a 38-gallon TransferFlow fuel tank installed where the spare had been, which more than doubled our range. We then took Tugboat on the annual multiday Four Wheeler of the Year test, which involved frequent fueling of the test-fleet vehicles. The Dodge did the entire weeklong event without a single fuel stop. We had created a max-trailer towing package with a range of more than 500 miles without any bed space sacrifice (no fuel tank in the bed) or performance compromise.

National Spring built six-leaf packs for Tugboat, the extra two overloads for the rear with removable stops. It gave us a good ride empty and fifth-wheel-hitch weight capacity when we needed it. We aimed for a 1.5-inch lift in front and stock rear springs to level the truck, which we got. However, the front pack was too thick, so compression travel was stiffer than we wanted. Thankfully, a revised set of front leafs fixed that, and a set of adjustable Rancho 9000s kept it running smoothly. The biggest surprise came from fitting Superlift's drag link and dropped Pitman arm to help our steering setup. The combo corrected the fact that we had a differently sized turning circle going left than we did when turning right; the fix made it an even better daily driver.

We had a limited-slip differential easily installed in the front; unfortunately, the Detroit differential we wanted to put in the back was not so easy to install. It turned out our truck had a Dana 70 rear axle with slightly longer 32-spline axle shafts when every other truck maker and locking differential company, including Detroit's Tractech, used 35-spline axles. We took our problem to axle experts Summers Brothers, which produced a pair of 35-spline shafts exactly the right length that were so nice to look at — a Ferrari engine compartment had nothing on this machine work — they would have made a fine table base or work of art.

I also made a few changes to Tugboat that some thought were just weird, like adding rear fog lights. Rear fog lights work well near the ocean, but they are also good for seeing a truck when running in desert dust. Nowadays you see fog lights on just about every competitive desert racer. I also installed a cylinder-head temperature gauge, originally designed for monitoring air-cooled engines in Beetles and Porsches; this gauge came in handy when monitoring front brake caliper temperature on fast, steep descents or during flat towing.

 

1 Axles II

 

At one point we investigated a rear disc conversion with axle builder Dynatrac, but silly rules about parking brakes and having the front differential on the wrong side derailed those plans. It also didn't help that midway into the plan Tugboat was sent to the Specialty Equipment Market Association Show in Las Vegas, so we had to rearrange our priorities to get the truck in tiptop shape for this mother of all car shows.

From Four Wheeler's third installment of Operation Tugboat onward, we photographed each outing. The heavy load behind the truck kept getting bigger, culminating in a 6-ton, 35-foot fifth-wheel that put us right at our calculated gross combined weight rating. Our only scary moment towing with Tugboat came after a spirited right turn during which my co-pilot and I wondered what was making all the squealing noises we heard. A quick check in the side-view mirror confirmed that the Jeep CJ SUV we were towing on a flatbed was hanging over the trailer. But we don't blame Tugboat for that.

Tugboat is still around and frequently recognized. Every so often someone asks me, "Isn't that the truck from Four Wheeler?" If I don't have time to chat, I sometimes play dumb and say they've got it confused with something else. From what we've heard, at least one person uses TUGBOAT for the license plate on their own Dodge diesel, but not this one — so don't be fooled.

Stay tuned for Part 4, our final installment of Operation Tugboat.

To read Part 2, click here.

 

4 Springs bags II

5 Tank pumpkin II

6 Foglights II

 

Comments

GUTS

GLORY

TOUGH AS NAILS

BETTER THAN ANY SUPER DUTY OR GM HD

RAM TUG BOAT

This is a badass truck.i am amazed by the rathersmall hp number.
But it has more than enough torque.

While I love Ram, like most people, I didn't care for the 80s/early 90's body style too much. That being said, I love articles on old trucks undergoing a transformation.

First Gen. Cummins.---they're noisy, rattle like a sack of cans, and half the time are ugly
as sin. but they're durable, reliable, good on fuel, and the last real trucks built in America.

This article was great until this.....

GUTS
GLORY
TOUGH AS NAILS
BETTER THAN ANY SUPER DUTY OR GM HDRAM TUG BOAT

Posted by: BIG DADDY RAM | Nov 17, 2013 9:33:31 AM

Don't these guys know they do more harm then good for their loving Ram. Unless the fan boys that posts this main purpose is to deter people from buying Ram's by portraying Ram owners a such D-day that they buy something else because they don't want to be apart of said D-baggery. In that case, it's working as planed. I considered buying a Ram 2500 a while back. Then I thought to myself that I could never post on PUTC ever again because I wouldn't want to labeled in the same class as the morons. Not saying all Ramare that all Ram owners are that or that some Ford owners aren't, but the level of class of some of the Ram owners on this site is just mind blowingly despicable.

@All1

The BIG DADDY RAM guy is just doing his job. There's something about Ram guys that you just don't understand. There is a good reason why not as many people drive them as other trucks.

RAM is not for Ford girly girls
RAM is not for GM fanboys
RAM is not for whiners
RAM is not for those who are insecure about what they drive
RAM is not for self concious men
RAM is not for those who are fine with the status quo

The weaksauce men are deterred by the comments we post are not worthy to own a Ram. They let the comments other people make influence what truck they buy. Unless you can man up and decide independent of anyone else what truck you want you will never be worthy to own a Ram.

THE FEW

THE PROUD

THE RAM OWNERS

@ Hemi Monster

Re-read what I said buddy boy. I didn't say that I didn't buy one because of what people say. I just said I could show my face around here because I didn't want to associated with such losers that post the GUTS, GLORY, RAM stuff all the time. I ultimately didn't buy one for other reasons. Not all Ram owners are that way as I have friends and family members that own them, and you guys have become topics of our conversations many times. You would be amazed of how many times you guys get laughed at even by fellow Ram owners. Even they think it is just despicable and ruins the articles.

Dustin, I know you are reading this. You want to chime in and tell these guys what we talk about and how they are embarrassing fellow Ram owners?

Also, I am good enough to help make the Cummins engine that goes in them, but I am not good enough to own one? Wow, really? Keep fooling yourself that you are doing good by your GUTS, GLORY, RAM posts. Even Texas boys who love their Ram 2500/3500s that are Dodge/Ram to the core laugh at you guys and are even embarrassed by those posts ruining a goon article. Say what you want to say to make you feel better about posting such trolling remarks, they are a laughing fest and embarrassment to real Ram owners.

* I could NOT show my face around here....

Sorry, the auto correct on my phone has a mind of its own.

Please be sure to watch this video and experience

MORE GUTS

MORE GLORY

MORE RAM!

http://youtu.be/kYf7tuiQ8Vo?t=12s

Actually, Dustin uses a different screen name then that so you FAILED again at trying to be someone you definitely are not.

GUTS
GLORY
RAM

Still not him.

You can't fix stupid, please excuse me for now I must go and hide.

@All1, Talk less. Say more.

Never covet another man's horse.

Guts
Glory
RAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmPj8S1R55w

@HEMI STUPIDNESS. AKA HEMI V8 and a bunch of other names.

You know how stupid and immature you look posting these comments. You're making Ram owners look terrible.

By the way using the Marines slogan for anything other than the Marines, you're going to get your ass kicked. That is if you stop hiding behind your computer.


@moparman

That "you can't fix stupid" remark wasn't me. I do not use nor have ever used other names besides my own. If I have something to say then I say it and do not hide behind different names. Others have used mine a few times, but I can assure that I am the original.

Hemi V8's words, good humor and reports are enjoyed worldwide! Pickuptrucks.com makes it all possible.

He is third in popularity only to oxi and Bob. When they say they hate their posts they really mean they LOVE to hate them!

Keep up the good work.
Posted by: Norm | Oct 11, 2012 2:05:23 AM

"HEMI MAN" you ARE Hemi V8 and he doesn't post any humor, he (you) post off-topic trollings, that can in no way be misconstued as "humor"

Dafuq or whoever you are, I am NOT Hemi V8 but I consider him a good friend of mine! If you don't like a particular post, don't read it. You can blame the Ford and GM trolls for turning others into trolls. For years people put down Ram on this site and now things are changing and Ford and Ram trolls cannot stand it.

ALL GUTS

ALL GLORY

BEST IN CLASS TOWING AND FUEL ECONOMY

2014 RAM

* Ford and GM trolls cannot stand it!

Ford Issues Recall for Focus E.V. and Ambulances
Ford Motor

The 2012 Ford Focus Electric vehicle.
By CHRISTOPHER JENSEN
Published: November 1, 2013

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Following an investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Ford says it will recall about 2,500 of its 2012-14 Focus Electric because of a power-loss problem.

Ford told the safety agency that a software issue in the powertrain control module could cause a loss of power to the front wheels. However, the automaker said the steering and brakes would work normally and that it was not aware of any accidents related to the defect.

Ford told N.H.T.S.A. that by the middle of August it had received 16 reports from Focus Electric owners who had experienced the problem. The company’s critical review group was given the task of reviewing the problem at that time. Ford decided on Sept. 5 to refer the issue to its customer satisfaction forum because of a “low occurrence rate.”

But the next day, the agency said it would investigate 12 consumer complaints that it had received about the power loss. Those complaints included one owner being stranded on a highway in what she thought was a hazardous location.

On Sept. 10, four days after the agency announced its investigation, the Ford customer satisfaction forum “reviewed the concern and recommended further analysis of the reports from the field.” Ford says that analysis, including further reports of problems, led to the recall. Ford was “following our process. As we were conducting our evaluation, N.H.T.S.A. opened its investigation,” Kelli Felker, a Ford spokeswoman, wrote in an email.

Ford described the recall as voluntary. However, once a manufacturer is aware of a safety problem it must — within five business days —inform the agency of its plan for a recall or face a civil fine.

In a second action, Ford will recall about 3,100 Super Duty ambulances from the 2011-12 model years for a problem that could shut down the 6.7-liter turbocharged V8 diesel engines. The automaker said a problem with an exhaust-gas temperature sensor could cause the engine to stop “and not be restarted for at least one hour.” The automaker said it was not aware of any accidents or problems for patients related to the problem.

@HEMI MAN or whatever other of the many names you go by.

I have met some trolls in my day, but you are up there with the best. You are doing a great job. Keep it up, because we need more to laugh about. Although I would like to see who you are in person to see who won the bet or not. My truck buddies, who also read these articles, have a standing bet after many of times discussing your trolling. Some are convinced that you actually work for Ram itself or at least a Ram dealership because their is not way someone would act so childish unless getting paid to do it. Others have a bet that you are a 40 year old virgin that lives in his Mom's basement with nothing better to do then troll all day, and actually does not own a Hemi and it is his Mom's instead. My bet is on being a 14 year old who idolizes Hemis to the point of rubbing one out while looking at pictures of them on a daily basis and has nothing better to do then troll all day on behalf of his Ram idol. I think I have it narrowed down to that because I think no grown man could be that immature, but you never know these days. Keep up the posts so we can get more clues. Maybe one day we will actually meet one day and I will win the bet, but who knows.

Oh, and now you can post something in my name or something else bad about any other truck besides besides the Ram because I know you get your jollies off doing it. Anyways, keep up the good work little slugger, and don't stay up too late because you got school in the morning.

@All1,
Little Child
Dry your crying eyes

When there is no more Ford and GM trolls, all the trolling will end

When the children cry
Let them know Ram fans tried
Cause when the Ram fans sing
Guts Glory Ram
Then the new pickuptrucks.com begins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUR86bnKLaI&feature=youtu.be&t=31s

@RAM

lol, good one, and a video to go along with it. Epic.

I came on this site 7 months ago and was cool to all.
Then TROLLS started in with their Ford truck bull after there precious ford got whipped by the Ram Runner. I am not the only one using the hemi name. I could car less what you think of Ram or Dodge. I had a P.O.S Ford once it burned from a faulty switch and I lost thousands.

P.S. I can post what ever I want on here so kiss my @$$!

All Guts

All Glory

All best in class Ram!

Posted by: HEMI V8 | Oct 10, 2012 11:02:00 PM

All1 is a troll.

Ram Trucks is taking over PUTC.

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e2017d3cfd12e5970c-pi

@Ram

You are right. I am a troll that lives under a bridge that never compliments anything other than Ford. Have you seen my posts before? I am not married to Ford and I will compliment what I think is good regardless of it's make. I do love my Ecoboost engine in my truck just as you lover your Hemi, but that does not mean I will make up names for the Hemi or go out of my way to down it. The funny thing is that you stated earlier that I shouldn't buy a Ram if what people said what change my mind yet as you just stated above you have changed yours from what people say. I would vcall that hypocritical. There is a difference between a blind fan boy troll that goes out its way to down everything else and a truck enthusiasts posting on topic facts having a true honest debate on the topic. I can tell that you are not the later.

, and actually does not own a Hemi and it is his Mom's instead. My bet is on being a 14 year old who idolizes Hemis to the point of rubbing one out while looking at pictures of them on a daily basis and has nothing better to do then troll all day on behalf of his Ram idol. I think I have it narrowed down to that because I think no grown man could be that immature,
Posted by: All1 | Nov 17, 2013 2:18:47 PM

The truth is HEMI V8 owns a 2003 Ram and has grandchildren, AND is looking to replace it with a 2014 Power Wagon which is not out yet but will be on the lots soon. But keep on TROLLING. Hemi V8 will not stoop to your level.

I want to personally thank President's Obama and Carter and the fine folk at Fiat for bailing out my precious Chrysler/RAM not once, but twice! Thank you Mr. Obama! BTW, my bling-bling Ram Limited sittin' on factory 20's looked real sweet with your "change" bumper sticker on the tailgate!

WORD moparmadness! Obama is a Mopar fan! And he gave us Mopar fans free phones and easier access to SNAP and helped the unions! He knows how we roll! Me, I'm a union plumber. Although, my mom's old boyfriend told me most of whut I need to know for plumbing. Water goes down hill, wash your hands before you eat, payday is on Friday! GGR! Representin' this thread! Everybody is jelly of how we roll!

, and actually does not own a Hemi and it is his Mom's instead. My bet is on being a 14 year old who idolizes Hemis to the point of rubbing one out while looking at pictures of them on a daily basis and has nothing better to do then troll all day on behalf of his Ram idol. I think I have it narrowed down to that because I think no grown man could be that immature,
Posted by: All1 | Nov 17, 2013 2:18:47 PM

The truth is HEMI V8 owns a 2003 Ram and has grandchildren, AND is looking to replace it with a 2014 Power Wagon which is not out yet but will be on the lots soon. But keep on TROLLING with personal attacks. Hemi V8 will not stoop to your level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGeYnQGTzO8

@ HEMi

That's funny because judging by his posts I was call BS on that. No grandfather in the right mental health would act like. Try anothe BS story because I ain't believing that one. If you do want me to believe then ha needs to act much much older in how and what he posts. And I haven't gotten to his level yet. You don't see me being a douche and posting BUILT FORD TOUGH in every article so no I am for from being down there. I am just calling him out on his trolling and if he don't like then he can stop so we can have a grown up civilized conversation about the articles topic. It's easy as that and I will gladly respect this so called grandfather for it. Until then, I will show him the same no respect that he doesn't show everyone else with his/your guts, glory, ram crap. Atleast most of the other trolls have enough respect not to do that in every article.

I personally know one of the Ram trolls here(yes there are more than one) and he actually drives a Ford, not a Ram. I think he wished he drove a Ram. I won't say who it is because I am not one to stoop down to the level of trolls.

I have something to say to everyone here. I know that those Ram troll guys get annoying, but learn to just live with it. Be glad that there are guys out there who are passionate about their trucks. All it takes is for people to lose that passion about trucks and the government will have it's way with shoving hybrids and prius type cars down our throat. I for one do not want to see that happen.

Everyone here is on the right track. Some love Rams, some love their GM and Fords and others just hate full-size pickup trucks. There is no right or wrong answer here. If you read a Ram post and you don't like it, my question to you is, why did you read it? If you didn't want to read RAM posts, don't read them. And for those of you who are spreading lies about HEMI V8, shame on you! That is why we have the problem we have today. Trolls are turning other people into trolls!

Did you all know that Hemi V8 is probably older than many people posting here? It is true. HEMI V8 is just young at heart and loves Ram. There is nothing wrong with that.

I know who All1 is, but I will not tell becaue I am not a snitch.

GUTS
GLORY
RAM

@black beauty

Go ahead, you have my permission to tell the whole world who I am without being a snitch. If you know I am then say it. I have nothing to hide. I don't need to hide behind a screen name(or multiple ones) like some.

I don't mind having a civilized convo with people with a little ball busting and braging every now and then. If truck looks sweet or has some awesome engine then I will be happy to say so regardless of brand. If Ford does something crsppy then i will call it too. That is normal and is grown up. However, constantly bashing other truck makes in every article. Costantly praising your fanboy idol brand even though it is not on topic. Constantly posting recalls or negative articles when it is off topic or when it is a good article about said brand so you have to do whatever can to smear it because you can't stand that brand getting any good accolades. Telling false story that never really happen about some other brands truck just to make it out as junk. Not admitting your own idolized brand never does anything wrong or is less thsn onother in some arra. Those are signs of a childish fanboy troll and is not grown up. Doing all of things and calling yourself grown up and mature is only kidding yourself and is far from reality.

and actually does not own a Hemi and it is his Mom's instead. My bet is on being a 14 year old who idolizes Hemis to the point of rubbing one out while looking at pictures of them on a daily basis and has nothing better to do then troll all day on behalf of his Ram idol.
Posted by: All1 | Nov 17, 2013 2:18:47 PM

It is actually posts like All1's that make Ram guys want to stand up and fight back. You blame everyone but yourself. Blame yourself.

@BIG DADDY

Agreed completely. For the record, I am the average Ram owner. I have frequented pickuptrucks.com for a long time and never bothered commenting on articles, but over the past year or so I noticed all the trolling going on.

At some point I decided to join in and do the GUTS GLORY RAM thing, because I thought it was funny how everyone flipped out anytime someone said something like that about Ram. After awhile, the trolling got old, so instead I started fighting back to the people that were bashing Ram.

I don't try to excuse myself for the trolling, because yes it is childish, and that's why I stopped doing it eventually. The problem is that those who are bothered by it have the inability to ignore it. Thus instead, they have strong reactions and get bent out of shape to easily. The end result is it keeps the trolls coming back for more. As an ex-Ram troll, you guys would be wise to take my advice and DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. Its THAT simple. If you respond to comments by trolls then that is just as bad as trolling.

If people were willing to just take my few words of advice, the whole problem would be solved. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, so thus another day of trolling on PUTC draws to a close.

@ Big daddy

Yes, it was because of my posts that you(you are not fooling anyone with the other names) post guts, glory, ram in every article even before I started posting on this site. You were able to look into the future to see my posts calling you out as a troll and decided to act all troll like before I even got here. Rrrrriiiiggghhhhhtttt!

Go through each of your posts as BIG DADDY, HEMI, HEMI V8, RAM, HEMI MAN, HEMI MONSTER, all the other names you have in this thread. You started it with the very first post with your troll bashing before I even said anything. Then I said it is sad that people have to ruin a good article with that kind of crap. The you posted under another name calling people from other makes names and saying that I should not own a Ram if I care too much about what others think since Ram owners don't care about that. Then I corrected you and followed up about a standing bet of what kind of person we think you are based on your actions and posts which you posted the tail end of. Now you say it is because of my words that you act like a troll, even though you stated in a previous article that I shouldn't care about what others think to be a Ram owner. WHA!! Remember there is a big difference between calling someone names and telling someone that they are acting like such name. For example there is a big difference between someone calling another person a child or saying they are acting childish.

Look man, if you want to start fresh with me using only ONE name then I am cool with that just as long as we have mature adult debates with facts and leave the immature childish fanboy name calling troll stuff aside. If not, then game on. Although you don't have to worry about it too much since I only read the comments section when I am bored and get into heated debates on days I don't have much to do like today which is not very often.

I AM the original HEMI V8. I want everyone who keeps hijacking my name to stop. You know who you are.

With all due respect to those who think they know what the trolling problem is, I think that one of the biggest problems is people who keep stealing my name. They then go onto say retarded stuff and make me look stupid. I be some of them aren't even Ram people, their are using my name to make Ram look bad.

Whatever the case may be, I must admit that I enjoy the fame that Ram has brought to me. No, I am not a troll, I love Ram, end of story, period. I see GM people who come on here day after day and call Ford guys "ford girly girls". Likewise, Ford guys call GM trucks "GovMo". Well I think that is want is immature. Liking Ram isn't immature, it's the guy from the other brand who call each other names, that is definitely immature.

@Hemi V8, Dude, you're preaching to the choir. It's not people using your name that is the problem. It's people like All1 accusing you of being any person with the Ram, Hemi or Chrylser product in their name even though you have different thouthts on different. These people cannot understand that there many different fans on the blog and many different Ram fans and we are not all the same person.

@All1, WTF??? So becoming an adult means that one should stop being a fan? That's BS due...I know some 50 year old's who are die hard GM/Ford/Ram fans and can quote unquote troll with the best of them........Being a Ram fan is not a phase, it's a lifestyle! And anybody who "grows out" of being a truck fan, a Ram fan, a Ford fan etc is a poser because they never really liked it in the first place.

I agree with Karl. Just because one person posts as Hemi V8 and another person posts as Mopar Rampage doesn't mean they are same person.

There are man Ram fans that are tied of the one sided comments and are starting to stand up and fight back. Hemi V8 can post what he wants so just back off.

It is people like All1 that stereotype against young people and Ram. He says Hemi V8 or whoever is posting is 14 years old and makes some crude immature joke. This is agegism in reverse were people have prejudicial attitudes towards young people.

In fact it is 40, 50 and 60 year olds who are doing most of the posting here. Most of the trolls accusing Hemi V8 of being somebody else are just doing it because they can't think of anything else to say and are immature 30, 40, 50 and 60 year old themselves.

I have myself been accused of being one due to a certain post I once wrote supporting Ram. I just want to say that I'm not a troll, I'm just an honest Ram fan that has a platform from which to speak. As Hemi V8 once said... I can post what ever I want on here so kiss my @$$!

All Guts

All Glory

All best in class Ram!

@All1, WTF??? So becoming an adult means that one should stop being a fan? That's BS dude...I know some 50 year old's who are die hard GM/Ford/Ram fans and can quote unquote troll with the best of them........Being a Ram fan is not a phase, it's a lifestyle! And anybody who "grows out" of being a fan is a poser because they never really liked it in the first place.
Posted by: Karl | Nov 17, 2013 7:28:58 PM

^THIS.

@ Karl

You might need to re-read all of my posts again. There is nothing wrong with being a fan or liking one brand over the other. However their is a BIG difference between being a fan of a certain make having an adult on topic debate on why you think your is good versus posting off topic immature BS ruining an article just because you are a childish name calling troll fanboy. Those that can't see a difference between the two are probably the later.

Also, a person is not married to a certain brand for life. I am a truck fan. There are certain years and motors of Rams, Chevy's, Toyota's that I like along with Ford. There also things that I don't like about each and everyone. Think about it, you would get into a vein popping argument with a guy that is workingman just like you just to defend some cooperate brand name that doesn't give two shnits about you. You would be pissed at people just like you that you would probably get along with otherwise for some F'ing name on a vehicle. I have friends and family that like certain brands an we still bust each other balls on it having a cold one around the fire, but we respect each other more then the makes of our trucks.

Of someone wants to be a blind fanboy then it's no skin off my nuts, but I will call it when I see it especially when it ruins a perfectly good article. Hell, I kind of get a kick out of it too. However, I do like actual grown up debates with actual facts a lot more but heh people in hell want water too so I complain if it doesn't always happen.

@Hemi V8 & Mr. T

The haters accusing you of being one or more other posters is another form of trolling. They don't like what is said so they accuse you of being somebody else because they can't handle the truth. But in their defense, sometimes we are being trolls. lol. Enjoy your fame and don't let the few haters stop you from saying what needs to be said.

GUTS
GLORY
NEVER GOING TO STOP
RAM

I must admit that I enjoy the fame that Ram has brought to me. No, I am not a troll, I love Ram, end of story, period. I see GM people who come on here day after day and call Ford guys "ford girly girls". Likewise, Ford guys call GM trucks "GovMo". Well I think that is want is immature. Liking Ram isn't immature, it's the guy from the other brand who call each other names, that is definitely immature.
Posted by: HEMI V8 | Nov 17, 2013 7:16:30 PM

^THIS.

I have a 2005 Dodge Ram with the Hemi. I am very proud of my truck. My truck will hang with anything on the road. I used to be a Chevrolet man. I still like Chevrolet, but I am now a Dodge man. Or may I say RAM man. My truck has done me very well. This is the 3rd Dodge I have had and plan on buying another one in the future. All manufacturers have good trucks and it is only a matter of preference to which one you buy. The reason I like them is because they have plenty of power and have been very dependable trucks to me. I have hauled over 12,000 pounds with my truck and it is only a half ton. I know I overloaded it but it did great with no problems. Bottom line is, I prefer Dodge over the other ones and they are very dependable and strong trucks.

UGLY!!!!!!!! ENOUGH SAID!!!!

Keep telling yourself that Karl. That I can't handle the truth. But hey, at least you know that people are getting a good laugh out ya'lls guts-glory-ram posts so it is not like it is a total waste of space on a computer screen. Some don't get a laugh out it especially my brother-in-law because we bust his balls about it and say "Those are your people". He just shakes his head because he knows he has nothing to defend it with. So on the bright side for me, the more fanboy stupidity gets posted the more ammo I have for Ram owning friends who thinks it's just as retarded and have nothing to fire back at me on it when I bring it up. Although, some of the Ford fanboy posts gets me in the same spot, but luckily there are not that many and the are not CAPITALIZED and easy to see. Cheers fellas, I tried to give some insight, but I see now that it is an impossible task speaking to someone who will blindly follow a name brand versus respecting other people. I tried the same with my wife telling her that her name brand purses are just a name, but it she wouldn't budge just like some of you guys. Prosit!!



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