EcoDiesel, EcoTec3 Make Ward's Best Engines

Wards Auto Top 10 Engines

At a time when engine technology is progressing by leaps and bounds, and as the half-ton pickup truck segment gets more competitive, it shouldn't surprise anyone that two of the engines on Ward's 10 Best Engines of 2014 are directly connected to popular full-size pickups.

This is the 20th year WardsAuto has held the competition, this year choosing from 44 different qualifying engines in one of the widest ranging engine lists ever. The 2014 Ward's 10 Best Engines and the vehicles in which they reside are:

  • Audi S5 3.0-liter TFSI supercharged DOHC V-6
  • BMW 535d 3.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC inIine-six-cylinder
  • Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 6.2-liter OHV V-8 (same engine as Chevy Silverado 1500)
  • Chevrolet Cruze 2.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC inline-four-cylinder
  • Fiat 500e 83-kilowatt electric motor
  • Ford Fiesta 1.0-liter turbocharged DOHC inline-three-cylinder
  • Honda Accord 3.5-liter SOHC V-6
  • Porsche Cayman 2.7-liter DOHC H-6 boxer
  • Ram 1500 3.0-liter turbo-diesel DOHC V-6
  • Volkswagen Jetta 1.8-liter turbocharged DOHC inline-four-cylinder

This is the first year in more than 15 years that a light-duty half-ton pickup truck has offered a small diesel engine option. The Ram 1500 has beaten the competition to the punch, offering a vehicle likely to get 27 or 28 mpg on the highway and somewhere in the ballpark of 22 mpg combined.

Although the Stingray engine is not technically inside a 2014 Silverado 1500 or GMC Sierra 1500, the EcoTec3 technology and specifications are practically identical. In fact, the same strategies and designs incorporated to the top-rated Corvette motor output are also inside the Silverado/Sierra's 4.3-liter V-6, 5.3-liter V-8 and the close family relation, the 6.2-liter V-8. All EcoTec3 engines offer direct injection, variable valve timing and cylinder deactivation.

 

Comments

First to market is not always the best, more like most recalls

That 1.0L 3 cylinder in the Fiesta Should push 50 mpg's.

Ram, first to market with an 8 speed, also made PUTC's most recalled list...

Chrysler to Recall 5,600 Vehicles; N.H.T.S.A. Investigates Hyundai

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/automobiles/chrysler-to-recall-5600-vehicles-nhtsa-investigates-hyundai.html?_r=0

Chrysler will recall about 4,200 cars and pickups in the United States and 1,400 in Canada because the 8-speed automatic transmission could fail
Posted by: mike | Dec 17, 2013 12:25:51 PM

This is about the engine, that VM Motori engine is brilliant. The rest of the car shouldn't matter. Though some of these engines are new to the US market, they have been in production globally for some time now and they should not be eligible. So I would probably give it to the Chevy 6.2. That said, it obviously is eligible, so I would give it to the Ram diesel. :) An electric motor should be ineligible because electric motors are not engines, so it would be silly giving it a "Best Engine" award. Engines are motors, but motors are not necessarily engines. What's next the Fiat 500 wins Snowmobile Of The Year? The Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost should be a good contender.

well Bob, has there been any recalls on this engine yet, in either the Jeep or the yet to be made 2014 Ram?

@Tom D: I know you would like to make everybody think the eight speeds are all bad, 4200 is a small fraction of 8 speeds, better them to recall then have a bunch of customers po'd about a bunch of f-150 transmissions or turbochargered engines that sputter around, yet no recall.

"To be eligible, a new or significantly improved engine or propulsion system must be on sale in a production vehicle during the first quarter of 2014. Base price is capped at $60,000, up from $55,000 last year." - WARDS

http://wardsauto.com/ward039s-10-best-engines/diesels-turbos-dominate-2014-ward-s-10-best-engines


I don't see the Ecodiesel being on sale Q1 2014. No way it should have one, but, as always CAR RAGS, err.. MAGS would give it a WIN. To me, I can care less, I am good with GAS.

Frank, thier are already ecodiesel Rams on the lots in Canada, should be on the way in the states.

The easy way around all the problems and major recalls is don't buy a first year Fiat-Ram or first year anything.

Give the 2013 Ram 3 years to work out the kinks (2016).
Give the 2014 GM trucks a year.
And give the 2015 Fords a year.

I strongly oppose buying a first year 2014 Fiat-Ram EcoDiesel.

@ Bob

Chrysler isn't first to market. GM put a diesel in their 1/2 tons back in the 90's.

@Ken,

Really,Ford has a ton of problems with its eco boost engines in cars and trucks,GM has tons of issues as well..Toyota is the worlds worst with serious engine/trans/safety issues (and you lap them up willingly)Honda is right behind Toyota !!

Most cars are recalled,but that doesnt mean they all have a problem.

Once again ignorant/uneducated jealous dolts...I remember when Ford/GM/Toyota's have a recall ,you guys all say "Oh its good they get on top of things" When a RAM has a recall you all of a sudden forget about that..

Furthermore,you should call it a Ferrari RAM as it blows the doors off of the competition in performance and RAM is the longest lasting trucks around !!

Go look at a Fiat,the window sticker says "Chrysler Group" And again why insist saying Fiat RAM,you never said Mercedes RAM before that nor did you say Chrysler RAM..Did you...I would take a Fiat over any Ford/GM/Toyota any day..Give me a Ferrari over those Furd/GM turds...And I know,owning over 800 cars/trucks/vans..currently own 34 vehicles that are for sale (not including my personal collection of just under 20 I am selling my few Fords and GM cars I collected over the years ,mainly because of this site you GM,Ford people discust me..my GTO is being sold had it for decades,but my Charger RT blows it away in performance and reliabilty GM rear ends sucked back in the muscle era)Many of the 34 cars 1-2 years old of ALL makes,rest are all under 11 years old and the non Mopars when they need repairs are usually major ones,the Mopars usually just need minor repairs(I buy newer vehicles from dealer auctions) Its odd my 2011 Ford with a "Eco-Boost" has a brand new engine with only 19,000 miles on the truck ! I put it on the lot and some uneducated ,drooling,smelly Ford guy will buy it !! Many of my newer model GM's have piston slap with low miles (that should have been recalled years ago)My Toyota buyers are all pretty much the same ,usually stuck up or new to the Country..

Oh gotta go,a customer just drove up..

I always wondered why Ram did not put a Cummins into the Plymouth Savoy. Most cite the location of the intercooler but that is really a flaming excuse (reminds me of my son). It can be relocated, like the weight of my wife’s ass and larger ankles and extra cost are the most likely reasons. The Chrysler Newport begs for a diesel, like my daughter begs for dog biscuits. The RT-flex96C diesel would be ideal except it is heavy.

Spencersonline.com does have some Finally Miley Inflatable diesels but I suspect that they would be as big as a Lace Bed Spreader. I see way more moderately modified Finally Miley Inflatables than I see Plymouth Savoy's. As several bloggers have pointed out, the fuel release of my load for "in the middle of f--kin' no where" trips would suck. In the days of old with pickups with cheap inflatables, there were times were I would get nervous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbWWWnPQ0AA

@Ken
The 3.0 has been out way longer than a year. It has been offered overseas in the GC for awhile and was developed way before that. I don't know why you think it's "new" other than it being new to the Ram.

@obama luvs ram
The old 1/2 diesels in GM products aren't much to brag about. In fact, unlike their cross town rivals IH 6.9 and 7.3 diesel and Cummins 5.9l, they boasted an array of problems such as cracked main bearing web, badly placed PMD in the 6.5, etc,etc,etc. You couldn't pay me to drive one of those.

The GM 6.5 V8 diesel was a work horse of an engine that was not the most powerful but it was a dependable engine I loved in my military HMMV. It never let me down, it got the job done.

@CDN Dodge Owner
"Go look at a Fiat,the window sticker says "Chrysler Group"
Here a Fiat is a Fiat. Outside NA Fiat has killed off the Dodge Brand and are working to get rid of Chrysler.
They are going to have a Fiat, Jeep and IVECO strategy.

I will admit that the could have come up with a name for the EcoDiesel. Seriously, I am getting sick of hearing the prefix "eco" added on to everything. I mean come on which sounds better Ecoboost, Ecotech or Hemi? Well obviously Hemi is the best sounding name. Just sayin'

@snowman - Allpar had mentioned an emissions problem holding up the installation of Ecodiesels into Ram 1500's.

@ CDN Dodge RAM Owner - a customer just drove up? You working East Hastings I see.

Nobody, and I mean NOBODY makes a turbo that's trouble free! I drive a Dodge Sprinter and the turbo goes out once a year at $2500 a pop! Ford always failed on their turbo on their diesel engines, Subaru also failed, the twin turbo on the Ford 3.5 EB would cost $4500+ to be replaced, and NO that's not included on the engine warranty or the ESP Warranty!

I read a similar article related to the same subject several days ago on an alternative site.

As was stated CRD TDi's are making larger inroads than gas engines. This was another prediction of mine.

Gas engines have a place, but future diesels will challenge this.

I placed a link on that 3 litre inline 6 BMW diesel here on PUTC. This is a fantastic diesel.

The performance from the 3 litre VM V6 diesel is what the prestige Euro manufacturers were getting only a decade ago from their top end diesels.

It will the norm in a decade to get 280-300hp and 450-500ftlb from a 3 litre diesel with better FE.

Unless some new innovative advancement is achieved with gas engines diesel will become popular along with the dreaded hybrids and EVs.

I run Diesel in my Hemi Ram, I have not had any issues and I'm getting close to 30MPG.

@ bafo

IMO hybrids can be improved a lot more, like what VIA motors is doing with those GM trucks and SUV's (and they're just beginning, AFAIK), I'd guess to say these electric/gas (maybe diesel) engine hybrids have a lot more potential than motors that are just turbo diesel. Yeah I know people bitch and moan about ev's but I think those batteries can be improved upon (be made more efficient, lighter, safer (that won't catch fire)), or maybe TDI's surpass the current gas engines and dominate for a few years, say a decade or two, giving hybrids (and these ev batteries) time to develop and then hybrids would be ready for prime time.

@The Real Lou
I think you are seeing the competition in meeting future diesel emission standards.

I think this is where Cummins has done some good work. That 2.8 ISF Cummins was used to develop this technology.

As for the issues confronting the VM in the Ram is a little mind boggling. Iveco can meet these standards, so Fiat has the tech to resolve this problem.

I wonder if there is more going on than meets the eye?

As an aside, I found the best product to come out of Canada and it's very low tech. I haven't seen this stuff in Australia yet.

It's called Fireball Cinnamon Whiskey. My birthday is in a few days and I think I have deserved the right to drink a bottle of this stuff. I just want to see what the side effects are ;)

What age do you have to be to be considered an 'old fart'?

@DiM, aka Mr Chow (why don't you have the balls to use your normal name? Are you a troll?)
Hybrids and EVs are a losing proposition. How much lithium is there? Are we better off keeping current lithium stocks for small electronic gadgets?

Diesel will always be much cheaper than hybrids and are in some instances outperforming them in FE.

Wasting government money on EVs and hybrids is poor decision making. The money would be better spent paying down debt or developing better infrastructure to improve the competitiveness of the US.

Even subsidising tertiary education more with the money will give better long term results.

Throwing money at bull$hit programs will only increase debt with very little return, other than giving the rich in society a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime they drive their vehicle.

@DeverMike/Paul/Tom Lemon/Greg Baird/TRX4Tom/Dave/Hemi V8/Tom Terrific/sandman 4x4/lautenslager/zveria/Bob/US Truck Driver/Glenn/Jason/Hemi Rampage/smartest truck guy/Maxx/SuperDuty37/Ken/Ron/johnny doe/jim/ALL1/Frank/Idahoe Joe/The Guy/AD/Casey/papa jim/Young Guy/BeeBe/Steve/Chris/The truck guy/Alex/Mr Chow or whoever you want to call yourself.

Quit the crap, really.

It's getting long in the tooth.

You want to debate, but it has to be on your terms.

Learn to debate with good information, then we might be able to have a decent debate.

Opinions are good, but if they are only your view to support the UAW, then how good are they. Look at what you guys have done to Detroit.

Terror tactics (union tactics) don't work on me.

If PUTC wants the UAW or whatever to control this site I suppose it's their decision.

It's not kids like I've been told by PUTC.

They don't seem to care. So this will go on.

@ bafo

Nope, not DiM. I'm not sure how much lithium there is, I might look into it in the future. Maybe diesel does outperform some hybrids CURRENTLY, but assuming we do have plenty of lithium and this tech keeps getting developed (to be better and cheaper) I think it has the potential to blow TDI's outta the water mpg-wise, but I could be wrong. I'm not advocating that the guvmnt subsidize this, the kenyan rat living in the peoples house already dumped a ton of $$ in solar companies that just went bankrupt, I think it should be private companies that develop this, if they lose money it won't be from the tax payers.

@ bafo

ps, I'm not from any union.

Another useless award.

a GM Truck with the new EcoTec 6.2 V8 is not going to be beat...


we call it the EcoBoost eater.

@Junner - the 6.2 Chevy did not do as well as the Ecoboost in the Ike II Gauntlet. A poorly programmed transmission held it back. My brother has had similar complains with his past 3 6.0 GMC HD's.
http://www.tfltruck.com/2013/12/ike-gauntlet-2-0-summary/

@Mr Chow
I totally agree with the non subsidisation of hybrids, CNG, EV's, etc.

If they aren't viable on their own, then they will not be produced. This would be the current situation. The only area these types of vehicles would be viable is in inner city locations.

The problem with the US is, gasoline as a form of energy for vehicles is quite biased against any competing fossil fuel like diesel.

I can't forsee much change for a few years to come. Governments, economies are that heavily entrenched with existing emission, manufacturing, etc models an effective change will take a couple of decades.

Implementing change would have to be gradual as not to upset the economy too much.

The first thing I would do is remove EV/Hybrid subsidies, then make a very gradual alignment to what the rest of the globe's vehicle design regulations are. This would be simple.

Then incrementally remove certain tariffs.

It appears you guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place. What makes this incredible is, it is self inflicted.

"we call it the EcoBoost eater. " - Junner

I only see it eating cement as it fell flat on it's face against a V6.

Yeah Ram guys should not be mad at all, when you are the talk of the net since you are on top of your game, everyone else will try to knock you down, since they have nothing to talk about on their end

Too bad Chevy is even associated with GM. This is the kind of cheap crap GM builds. Not what Chevy used to be at all.


http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/9900/chevrolet/silverado-1500/chevy-silverado-and-gmc-sierra-undercarriage-rust

the vm diesel is built with a steel torque plate??? that is what I have read and the other Mercedes v6 diesel is not. the benz is supposed to be a good motor but.... the vm is by far built for commercial duty, shows that it makes lots of low end in videos. overseas its a commercial duty engine that is used in cabover box trucks. I have been reading and watching and am impressed. if the 26.8 avg that I have been reading about in the most recent test is true, this motor will work great in a power wagon 2500 with 4.56 gears 8 speed auto. id buy it now sign my name right now! im still looking at this ram 1500 but I need HD. POWERWAGON diesel 3.0 is my future if they build it.

As someone mentioned, this is for weight savings and ultimately fuel economy. But I don't have to like it.

This is indeed the flimsiest metal I've ever seen on a truck. They should have used a composite material if they were going to go this thin.


"Quote
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/119648-acorn-damage/

I hated from the first time I hand washed my truck that the roof of the cab flexed and sounded like sheetmetal in the wind when I pressed lightly on it. Scary...

LOL 'Tis true! I was thinking of putting some kind of insulation or something to keep it from flexing so much. Really disappointing. "


Wow, gotta love that quote.


http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/9900/chevrolet/silverado-1500/chevy-silverado-and-gmc-sierra-undercarriage-rust


Standard Chevrolet GM trucks around here. Disposable Junk. Buy Foreign or buy Ford. That's about your safest bet these days if you want a truck that lasts. And looks good doing it. I still can't fathom how they went into the toilet like they did. Once upon a time, believe it or not, Chevrolet had the stoutest, longest lasting truck of them all. And it was a good looking truck too. GM ruined Chevrolet and bad. A shame for sure.

@Miath - the new CEO of GMC is a woman.

Ram trucks are the longest lasting, most dependable trucks on the road. Look it up.

@ bag

Yeah I agree, a lot of this stuff is self inflicted, we have this gvmnt that likes to regulate the crap out of everything, but with these new diesels entering the U.S. market, maybe the public here could change their minds about diesels, we'll see.

^^Correction: @ bafo^^



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