Spied: 2016 Ford Super Duty With Video

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We've been working with our spy shooters for the last few months regarding Ford's next-generation Super Duty pickups and, based on how camouflaged the trucks have been, whether they will include the same type of aluminum body panels on the new F-150 that's been getting so much attention. Here are some photos, a video and a note they just sent us.

"We have conclusive proof that Ford is doubling down on its aluminum trucks, going the F-150 route on its all-new Super Duty pickups."

Will It Magnet?

"A slew of Super Duty prototypes have been testing in the Rocky Mountains, and an F-350 dualie pulling a fifth wheel [was] parked for the day, leaving its truck bed uncovered and exposed. We decided that it was time to make a little introduction: 'Magnet, meet Super Duty. Super Duty, say hello to Magnet. Let's see if you two are attracted to each other.' The end result is captured on video and shows that the magnet exhibits ZERO attraction to the prototype surfaces — even its exposed metal — suggesting that the next Super Duty is following the F-150's lead and going aluminum.

"Look at our textual breakdown of the video material for the full context of its contents. In addition to the video, we have compiled a megaset of photos showing the Super Duty prototypes testing in a wide variety of body configurations, including crew cab, super cab, regular cab and crew cab chassis cab. We also have a small glimpse at the Super Duty's interior through a long lens."

Video Breakdown

"The Super Duty prototype subjected to the magnet was 80 percent covered, with its bed uncovered due to the fifth-wheel trailer that remained attached while the test truck was parked. We placed the magnet over various sections of the covered truck and then reached an uncovered portion, clad only in marine vinyl camouflage near the rear wheel arch. The magnet showed no attraction to the prototype, but since portions of the prototype were covered with a car cover, the video is not 100 percent conclusive. We did some tests after the fact, applying the magnet to a current steel-bodied F-250 and found that the magnet would still show attraction even when a 1/4-inch piece of foam core board was placed between the truck and the magnet. This helps alleviate some concerns over the covered portion of the prototype and its reaction to the magnet.

"In another test, we placed some marine vinyl similar to automotive camouflage between the magnet and a current F-250. Here, it stuck like glue. On a portion of the Super Duty prototype that wasn't obscured by the car cover, the section covered only in vinyl camouflage exhibited no magnetism, which is highly suggestive of aluminum body panels.

"Finally, we placed the magnet against that truck bed's bare metal, and still, there was absolutely no magnetic effect. It's here that we can say conclusively that Ford is using aluminum in a large portion of its next-generation Super Duty prototypes. If it is using aluminum here, in the key punishment point of a heavy-duty work truck, it stands to reason that aluminum is being used throughout the rest of the Super Duty prototypes — just as it's used on the 2015 Ford F-150."

Two Versions of the Video

"We have supplied two versions of the video proving the aluminum makeup of the Super Duty prototype. A shorter, raw version contains only the video of the magnet's interplay with the Super Duty prototype (click here). A second video edit (below) includes portions of our tests of the magnet's reaction to various materials and a current, steel-bodied F-250. The added material helps put the raw 'prototype' video in a proper context."

A New Super Duty So Soon?

"When we caught the first Super Duty prototypes testing back in mid-March, many analysts expressed surprise that prototypes had appeared so early and out of nowhere. Our analysis suggests that Ford has accelerated development on the next-generation Super Duty to make the most of its 'aluminum edge' — technology that Ford executives were touting as 'game changing' at the F-150 debut at the 2014 North American International Auto Show in Detroit. If competitors are planning to counter Ford with aluminum-intensive trucks of their own, Ford's decisive move to create an aluminum Super Duty will help it leverage its current advantage as much as possible before competitors can react."

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Comments

Friggen brilliant, hopefully it will get the 10 speed at launch. At least 470/900?

10 speed and aluminum , 20 mpg all day long.

These Trucks weigh 7-8K, taking 700 lbs off of them isn't going to do much, especially since these trucks are usually hauling and towing heavy loads anyway.

For does a lot of cross testing. This could be a test that they can use this fall to promote how tough the aluminum is on the F150, saying it was in use on some SD's. Although they did test the aluminum on the F150 for years before production this year. No one knew to check them though. Either way, interesting.

@ Greg. you are right. and good MGP isn't as important as it is the the 1/2ton game. But that 700-800 pound diet means more payload. In the game of 1 tons payload is what counts.

They could be considering the corrosion angle. As super duty trucks often get used and abused more often. Think plow/salt truck.

GUTS

GLORY

NEW TRUCKS FRESH PRODUCTS

NOT THE SAME OLD SAME OLD LIKE THE COMPETITION

EXCITING NOT BORING

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I just don't know. How durable will it really be? How expensive to repair? Will paint stick to it after several years? Aluminum does corrode, and it's put together with rivets and adhesives. I am not saying it won't work, but it will be several years before I consider buying one. Just have to wait and see.

I know these are prototypes, but why make an aluminum bodied truck and put 6 steel wheels on it (like one of the dually trucks in the pics)? That's gotta be 100 more lbs you could remove with existing tech. You could make the spare wheel out of aluminum, too, and save even more. And you could cut unsprung weight and improve ride quality.

@ CUMMINS RAM. You are a retard. Please leave your mom is calling you.

Most Super Duties I see here being up north have rusted out beds over the rear wheels! Aluminum would be welcome up here! Imagine a vehicle stickering out to 60K + and in a few short years its rusting like a tin can. Well lets see how this aluminum holds up!

Some seem concerned over whether the aluminum will hold up and hold paint. Haven't aluminum cabs been used in things like Peterbilts, hummers and jet liners for quite some time now? Rivets and adhesives have been used for aluminum with great success but I think you will find these fords are largely welded together-much like their steel counterparts. This isn't new tech; it just has not been applied to consumer level vehicles to the extent that it is with these new trucks. The costs will be higher initially but as the industry adapts repair costs will come down as will manufacturing costs. Aluminum is the future for transportation. Get used to it.

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Quit the crap, really. If I want to troll and spew usless BS that is my preference.

I only have one tooth.

You want to debate, but it has to be on my terms.

I need to learn to debate with good information, then we might be able to have a decent debate but that isn't going to happen.

Opinions are good, but if they are only my view to support the UAW, then how good are they?

Terror tactics (union tactics) are fine with me.

If PUTC wants the UAW or whatever to control then I support it fully.

It's kids like me I've been told by PUTC.

They don't seem to care. So I will keep on trolling.

The biggest issue with steel pickup beds up north is that the back side of the rear panels is open to the road salt all the way up to the bed rails. its not like say a car door where you just have the edges exposed. That's why the beds rust out before the rest of the cab of the truck. Most people don't wash the back side of the panels every time in winter.

I recently read a statement from a ford engineer that said "ford has no plans to produce an aluminum-bodied super duty." Either he straight up lied or they are still undecided as to whether or not they will actually produce it as it is still in the testing stage. It would be interesting to know if some of the trucks they are testing are steel-bodied. Ford said they have developed a steel-body ready to go in case the aluminum body f-150 trucks end up as a flop. I think an aluminum-bodied super duty crew cab would shave closer to 1000 pounds than the 700 of the f-150 crew cab. It would be very beneficial. There's a reason semi trucks mostly have aluminum cabs.

@Greg - if you tow for a living then you would know that the standard approach in the commercial trucking industry to increase cargo capacity is by reducing weight and/or adding more axles.

@beebe - the Ford engineer might not be lying, it may depend on which model year Ford he was talking about.

@Len - "Most Super Duties I see here being up north"............ that is a vague statement.
1. What year or years of SuperDuty? in other words, how old are the trucks....
2. and what do you call "up north"?

I personally do not see any one truck with a rust issue worse than another. There always tends to be some model years that are worse than others.

As a rule, I have found that the chrome on new truck regardless of badge tends to rust faster than older trucks.

Its really tough telling the difference between the Ram 1500 and 2500 cause they look exactly the same to me.
Is it the same exact cab and bed?

Elect candidates who promise to reverse America's screwed up energy policies.

Then we can discuss completely re-designing the nation's rolling stock so it complies with some goofy professor's ideas about gas mileage and CO2 emissions

Ford MUST use aluminum in new SD if they want to lead...!

Because both GM and Ram use their 1500 as cab n bed for their HD trucks... When their 1500s go aluminum... Their HDs get it same time... So Ford must go uminum on SD and Ford is using F150 chassis as SD frame to comply with One Ford global platform consolidation

That's why new F150 frame is HD ready n wider to take SD box n after market utility boxes.

Expect SD to save at least 1000 lbs with aluminum body box n lighter F150 Fully Boxed frame too!

@Gregaryous - Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

@Tom#3 - I like you because the more stupid one is, the closer one is to reality. The more stupid one is, the clearer one is. Stupidity is brief and artless, while intelligence squirms and hides itself. Intelligence is unprincipled, but stupidity is honest and straightforward.

@Alex - Stupidity lies in wanting to draw conclusions.

Looks like Fake Lou BC is putting his useless liberal fine arts degree to some use...........

If you are going to quote Fyodor Dostoyevsky at least give the guy credit for the quote from "The Brothers Karamazov".

@Cummins Ram.. same old just like GM competition.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/feds-add-chrysler-ignition-air-bag-probe-204008337--finance.html

I can't believe I just watched 2 minute video of a dude trying to stick a magnet to a truck! How can I get these 2 minutes of my life back?
I've read it somewhere as well that Ford won't be building aluminum SDs. It'll be interesting to see if they go that route or not.

WHY DO THEY COVER IT?????? ITs the same stupid body they have used since 99 and the frame....... i'm sure they will say its all new LOL LOL

They cover so dummies like you will ask why do they cover it.

This is a prototype mule of the current body in aluminum just like they used down in the baja with the current F-150 stamped in aluminum.

@Fake Lou, is that the conclusion you have come to?

@Fake Alex, yes that is the conclusion I have cum to?

Fire Trucks are aluminum. They do just fine.
I know that well!
By the time I can buy one this will all be worked out. My wife gets a new ride before my 2011 gets traded.

Looks like Lou BC is putting his useful 3rd grade Canadian Education to use...

Lou has a hard on for university educated people (this time he didn't even have to take his usual little blue pill). GOOD FOR YOU LOU.

His bonehead father pulled him out of school when he was in 3rd grade. He figured that at 15 years old Lou had had enough.

Besides Lou's father didn't listen to his bonehead mother who was screaming "pull it out" in back of the car when Lou was conceived, so he figured he's better listen when she said "pull the moron out of school, he's starting to look as old as the teacher" Lou was the first Canadian to shave in the 3rd grade. That a boy Lou!

lol...a Canadian talking about liberalism, that's rich....heeeheeee. Lou must have a lot of time on his hands waiting to get a doctor’s appointment for his STD's at the socialized medical center in Canada....lol

But the best part about all this is that I can do whatever I like and no matter how much you complain….Mark does nothing about it. Why should he....Mark knows I'm right.

I LOVE THIS SITE!

@Lou BC - University, have you been to Canada? I have yet to see one in Northern BC.

Its amazing how we all on this website Instead of talking about new trucks in a civilized manner we all fall to the same tatics spewing out false rhetoric to get a little satisfaction knowing we have made someone we don't even know angry over the stupidity of our own comment. I would love to get everyone on this website and lock them in a room.

@fake Lou, then you obviously missed the paradox. But then I'd be surprised if you even know what "paradox" means, or at least how to pronounce it.

@freedomidi86 - "I would love to get everyone on this website and lock them in a room..."

How long have you had these gay fetishes?

Not that there is anything wrong with that!

Sounds like you're gonna cry Alex...you OK?

I realize aluminum has its virtues, but I don't understand why it would be necessary on the Super Duty since the government doesn't rate fuel economy of HD trucks.

With the 1/2 ton trucks it is necessary now in some way or another to either find dramatic weight savings (Aluminum) or make dramatically more efficient powertrains (Ecodiesel).

With HD trucks, like I said, FE doesn't make that much of a difference. How much weight would aluminum really save vs the cost to implement it? I am also concerned that aluminum could lower the payload or capabilities of the truck.

Since HD trucks are used for mainly towing or hauling, it is quite possible that the majority of the weight is from the load and not the truck itself. If that's true, then weight savings for the truck will make little difference for towing/hauling FE.

Yeah I'll be fine. Thanks for asking Lou.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

@Fake Lou, just laughing at you like everyone else is. I'm not surprised you interpret that as crying, your emotions are all screwed up. Don't kill anyone

Good job, PUTC!

You're smoking the competition.

Add the "Super Duty sticking with steel" to the list of tabloid trash that ttac was misinforming about. I guess you can call them, bsat, or bs about trucks.

Glad to see you're feeling better Alex...hey a lot of guys like you cry....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

I understand buddy...get it out!

@Real Lou, I don't think Fake Lou understands Freud's projection theory. Shocking revelation, I know. :)

Great to hear that you are getting psychological help Alex.

Half the battle is getting to the help you need....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqrXjFac75U

I agree with Lou BC, it is important for you to get the help you need Alex. The first step in treating a mental disorder is recognizing that something is not right. The second step is getting help. These two steps may in fact be the hardest part of the entire healing process. Once you seek help from a qualified health care provider, a correct diagnosis can be made and proper treatment can be given to help you get back on track. Hang in there Alex.

If anyone is interested...

PUTC is starting part 2 of the 2014 HD Challenge...

https://twitter.com/pickuptrucks

We'll be testing new HD pickups all week, running up and over the Rocky Mountains #HDPickupChallenge

https://twitter.com/pickuptrucks

@Alex - he must of slept through that class or do they even cover anything remotely marketable in the real world when studying for a liberal fine arts degree?

Maybe after 4-5 years seniority Walmart might let him run the PA system.

The comments on this site are hilarious! Fake Lou, I can't believe how much time on your hands you have.

You want to know why our guys wouldn't let Lou test drive any of the EcoDiesels?

Because he came in looking like this...

Spied - Lou at the Chrysler dealer:

http://tinyurl.com/LouBCspiedatthedealer

He's got legs.
Lou doesn't know how to use them!
Lou always begs to test EcoDiesels in drag.
Lou is not alright.

Elect candidates who promise to reverse America's screwed up energy policies.

Then we can discuss completely re-designing the nation's rolling stock so it complies with some goofy professor's ideas about gas mileage and CO2 emissions

Posted by: papa jim

I agree 100% we need car/truck enthusiast line up down in DC. backed buy auto manufacturers to go tell these top end A holes in the white house and congress right where to shove it! Should we work at being cleaner and greener yes! But their no need to pile up and push so much so fast to drive up cost to unreasonable amounts!

I also hope the older folks that are getting f#$ked out of social security because lazy a@@ useless welfare bums that should be and could be working but won't that trade their food stamps to people for money to get beer and other drugs should join them. There gonna be one hell of a holy up raising that's gonna happen in D/C soon people with common sense are get tired of the bull!

I'm tired of these high up a holes getting their panties waded up over stupid s#$%t when their is bigger and more important problems to solve!

You guys tend to forget that pickup trucks make the highest profit for the vehicle maker and dealer so when they make them out of more expensive aluminum that eats into the profit margin.
The only reason the F-150 is the top selling is because they cost less to buy new.
But expect a BIG price increase and watch their sales go down.
Its Truck Month In Pittsburgh, 2014 F-150 4x4 SC is selling for $26,500, a similar 2014 Chevy 4x4 LS ext cab with the all star option is $34,990.
Even if you wanted the Chevy you're going to hold your nose and buy the F-150 instead cause of the money you save.



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