J.D. Power Study Shows Ford, Honda and Ram Buyers Are Happiest

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The annual J.D. Power Automotive Performance Execution and Layout (APEAL) study attempts to gauge how well new vehicle owners like their car or pickup truck in 77 different areas. Of course, this is very different than J.D. Power's other studies that attempt to assess 90-day initial quality and three-year vehicle dependability. As you might imagine, opinions vary across the automotive spectrum but the 2014 results for those interested in pickup trucks are interesting.

In the pickup categories, the vehicles with the highest rankings were the Honda Ridgeline (Midsize Pickup), the Ford F-150 (Light-Duty Pickup) and the Ford F-250/350 Super Duty (Heavy-Duty Pickup). It's also worth noting that the highest-ranking brand that makes a pickup is Ram, falling between automotive brands Hyundai and Volkswagen, with a score well above the non-premium brand average score.

To check out the full story and see how all other categories and brands scored, see the full story by Cars.com's Consumer Affairs Editor Kelsey Mays.

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As a Honda owner I am happier period. Very solid reliable products.

Quote From Article: 'It's also worth noting that the highest-ranking brand that makes a pickup is Ram, falling between automotive brands Hyundai and Volkswagen, with a score well above.'

Well,NO it's not worth noting. All Ram makes is pickups and a van. Ford and Chevrolet are scored with a full catalog of vehicles.

What's worth noting is the Ram 1500 ranked behind Ford Chevy and GMC and the HDs tied for second.

And people wonder why the F-Series has been number one for so long? Here's just another reason. After the launch of the next F150 and Super Duty, I pity the competition. Great time to be a truck buyer!

@PUTC

I'd really like to see the JD Power 10-year and 20-year satisfaction ratings.

I bet GM pickups would rank number one in owner satisfaction.

Ram and Honda pickup owners? Probably not so much. Did Honda even HAVE a pickup 10 years ago?


I you have owned a vehicle for 20 years chances are you not unhappy with it no matter who makes it or what it is.

I'm always surprised that Jeep is at the bottom of lists such as these. Wranglers are purpose built vehicles and its not like the people buying it don't know what they are getting. Then again i wants complimented this lady on here nice Sahara and she couldn't tell me enough about how she hated it. i stopped short of asking here what she used it for since I knew where that would head and it was just a losing argument. Sorry that one spring break where you hung around in a D-bags Jeep while drunk didn't pan out in the real world.

Surprised to see Subaru so low, they have been know for thier rock solid vehicles and one of the most reliable AWD systems.

Does this take into account the die hard Ford and Ram fans who would never say anything bad about thier truck no matter what issues they had? I'm sure owners of certain brands tend to be more honest then others.

For the past 18 years I have bought and driven Dodge and now Ram pickups, of those 18 years I have only had two minor issues that were covered under warranty.

So I am a very happy Ram pickup owner.

@smtrthnu

Unless you live in the middle of the desert, I'm sure that counseling and psychiatric services are available in your area.

If you make too much money--which I doubt, for some reason--you can probably qualify to get a few sessions with the headshrinker on a sliding scale, or your health insurance might even cover it.

It crosses my mind that MAYBE she just didn't want to talk to you. And yes, Wranglers have had a dreadful history of lousy reliability.

They are rugged it's true, but the electronics, the workmanship and the fit and finish have been sh*t for decades.

The results are interesting. Ford's placement in the truck ranks and Ram's placement in the overall rankings is odd.

It shines a positive light upon Ram when comparing vehicles in general. The odd part is why did they score so high compared to cars but did not score higher in the truck category?

I believe the reason for this is partially due to what Jack said. Ram is a truck/van brand. Other companies have all of their vehicles lumped together.

The question that DOES need to be asked is this:

Why does Ram brand rate better than most cars but not the best when ONLY compared to other trucks?

The interesting thing is that JD Power said that carry over models do not tend to have the same level of satisfaction as new models.

- Ram and GM are both newer designs than Ford with new features but Ford won.

- The "Super Duty is the same truck forever" camp just got a knee in the groin on this one.

"APEAL is based on eight categories of vehicle performance and design: engine/transmission; ride, handling and braking; comfort/convenience; seats; cockpit/instrument panel; heating, ventilation and cooling; sound system; and styling/exterior."

This study flies in the face of all of those anti-ecoboost types since engine and transmission is one of the criteria.

The oldest trucks with the most controversial motors won.......

Talk about dissonance.

@Lou BC

"Why does Ram brand rate better than most cars but not the best when ONLY compared to other trucks?"

I think I know that one. It mainly has to do with how loyal and some times fanatical truck buyers are in comparison to car buyers. The same kind of fierce brand loyalty also exists in the sports/muscle care market which is also a market that is overly dominated by men like trucks (see a pattern here).

When someone is loyal or fanatical about their favorite product, they will overlook discrepancies with their brand that they wouldn't with anything else. They are bound to not see the negative and even sometime turn them into a positive by making excuses in their mind about their favorite product. What also comes to play is competition where for no reason at all, anybody that bought a different vehicle than you becomes "the guys on the other side". I think it ties into the factor of the competitive tenancies of most men and glorifying that they and what they have are the best.

Being that most loyal ruck owners would overlook many things a car buyer that doesn't really care about brand, I can see why car buyers are more inclined to be truthful about what they do and don't like about their vehicles. Just as you and I have seen in this site Lou, fanatical brand fans will flat out make up information to fit their own perception, cherry pick data to fit their own perception, or make excuses all day long about their brand choice so what makes you think they wouldn't do the same on a survey.

I also bet if JD Powers separated the Ford trucks from the rest of the cars and SUVs, then it would be a lot higher on that list than the cars which is evident by the F150 and F250/350 being the best in their category.

I try to convince myself that I might enjoy another truck better than a ford, but it just isn't true. When I got an 09 ram I loved it and was completely confident I got the right truck. Now I wish I had gotten a ford. Now I'm trying to convince myself to get a chevy because it SHOULD be a better truck. Articles like this remind me that I would probably regret choosing against the ford again. Heck maybe I'll just buy a deeply discounted '14 f-150 in a couple months. It's a safe bet.

@PUTC

I'd really like to see the JD Power 10-year and 20-year satisfaction ratings.

I bet GM pickups would rank number one in owner satisfaction.

Ram and Honda pickup owners? Probably not so much. Did Honda even HAVE a pickup 10 years ago?


Posted by: papa jim | Jul 27, 2014 10:24:11 AM

I am a very happy Dodge Ram owner. My truck is an 03 Black Hemi quad cab 4x4. It takes me places off road I have dreamed of going. Tows my 24' toy hauler full of quads in soft dune sand. It is very dependable no rattles no squeaks.
Powerful and sounds great looks great and runs better. 95,000 trouble free miles. Recently went off roading in the mojave desert. Climbing loose rock mountain trails. My Ram truck = freedom for me. Can't wait for winter to off road in the snow.

Ford sells the most trucks and Ford truck buyers are the most happiest based on eight categories of "performance and design: engine/transmission; ride, handling and braking; comfort/convenience; seats; cockpit/instrument panel; heating, ventilation and cooling; sound system; and styling/exterior."

So much for Michigan Bob's hamburger argument that he used to always pull. I'm calling you out Michigan!

I'll say to Jeff none of what you mentioned had anything to do wtih the sruvey. The survey did not say Honda buyers were happier with their products. In Fact, the Honda brand overall is rated below average and the CRV didn't make the list. Stick to the topic of the blog post, please.

Honda buyers have below average happiness.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2014/07/porsche-hyundai-top-new-jd-power-study-volvo-and-mitsubishi-sink.html

These are just the cold hard facts.


@beebe
I try to convince myself that I might enjoy another truck better than a ford, but it just isn't true. When I got an 09 ram I loved it and was completely confident I got the right truck. Now I wish I had gotten a ford. Now I'm trying to convince myself to get a chevy because it SHOULD be a better truck. Articles like this remind me that I would probably regret choosing against the ford again. Heck maybe I'll just buy a deeply discounted '14 f-150 in a couple months. It's a safe bet.
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Had a couple Ford trucks as work vehicles. No issues just maintenance. The in 2001,2006 and again in 2009 I bought Dodge/Ram... three trucks in a row that gave me huge grief. I got great deals on all three as a friend is the fleet manager.

Last year after more service department revisits I got rid of the Ram and went back to Ford for my truck needs....so far no issues what so ever. my Ecoboost gets better mileage then the 2009 hemi and truck doesn't squat pulling my work trailer.

So what is the difference between the two trucks? both trucks have immense features and comfort with more then enough power and reasonable mileage... I grew up when trucks were work vehicles ... the major difference.... The Ford has been absolutely flawless other then regular maintenance which is a huge difference over the frustrating experience with the Ram.

I have owned Ford and Dodge/Ram the last 20 years in trucks.. three Fords and three dodges/Ram... my experience is based on the ownership and what I have gone through. Fords are more reliable.

I know lots of truck owners, fiends, neighbors, other contractors and business owners..... from what I have heard through conversation Ford and GM products are less trouble then the Dodge /Ram products.

Some Ram owners have a great experience and trouble free vehicles but more often then not many have many service issues.

I am not brand loyal and when it comes to work I need reliability. I was a huge Mopar fan having both a Roadrunner and a Duster I used to race at the track... The old RB and LA engines with torqueflites were some of the most reliable drivetrains ever built that could take serious punishment while providing great power.

I make fun of some of the ram idiots here because they float garbage about awards ,Rams are number 1 or claim Ram firsts when it is clearly not fact. I think many of these people do not own a truck or a Ram.

sales numbers reflect what works for people. Ram numbers have increased slightly but the long term vision will be can Ram keep owners who have bad experiences with their products? I have switched brands after three consecutive purchases and cannot or do not ever want to experience what I went through again. I know a dozen people in the last two years who have the same feelings I do and have traded out of the Ram experience.

I think the next 5 to 7 years will be a telltale sign of where truck numbers go. Trucks are becoming a huge expense and people will do more research and abandon brand loyalty for quality. a few hundred pounds in towing or payload, a couple miles per gallon or 20 hp in either direction will not be the difference. All new trucks are extremely comfortable. I think the difference will ultimately fall towards reliability and satisfaction of ownership.

I think if Ram can address reliability issues then they have a chance to take market numbers.... I see the opposite right now and within 5 to 7 years this could spell doom for them.

Honda Ridgeline buyers happier than other mid-sizers? Yeah, because it doesn't take much to please bottom feeders.

There is a niche loyal following for the Ridgeline just as there was for the Yugo and El Camino, but with 1000 sales per month, its days are also numbered.

@AbuelaJimenez

Oh if she didn't want to talk to me she could have stopped at anytime or not said anything at all. I have had no trouble with my Wranglers doing the job I asked of them and if the electronics are bad then so is every other Chrysler vehicle since they are all the same.

You don't need to worry about my financials. I am debt free and ready to take my family on the 2nd of 3 vacations this year. You save a lot of money by not paying for unnecessary medical. Its only necessary for people who come up with excuses on why there vehicle isn't at the top of a chart, such as the length of ownership.

@R3NxSTONEx,

My brother in law has a loaded 09 Ram with Ram box. He has had no issues with it. Took it in for the rear end recall dealer took care of it. He absolutely loves his truck. At some point if what you say is true. lol You have to look at the owner. Do they maintain the vehicle? With My Ram purchase I had a 7 year 70,000 mile warranty unlike Fords 3 year 36,000 mile warranty.
I go buy owner ship experience myself and with Fords never ending FIRE RECALLS! I will never risk my family house etc...buying anything from ford. : (

Ford Fire Hazard Recall Creeps Along
Parts shortages delay repairs of fire-prone Fords
01/18/2008 | ConsumerAffairs
By Joe Benton
More than 1.8 million Ford Motor Co. cars and trucks remain at risk of erupting into flames 5 months after the automaker recalled an additional 3.6 million vehicles because of a fire hazard in the cruise control system.

Ford initially promised parts would be available for the massive recall to repair the vehicles by October 2007. The automaker then said the parts will not be available until later in 2007.

An Oregon family's F-150 burst into flames in the driveway. Reader photo.

When Ford first announced the delay because of a parts shortage, the automaker said there have been no supply problems for parts for SUVs. That is no longer true.

The badly needed parts are still in short supply and discouraging some Ford truck owners from responding to the recall. Because Ford dealers are unable to accomplish the required repairs, as a temporary fix they disconnect the cruise control system when consumers respond to their notice from Ford.

A Ford spokesman insists the automaker is doing all it can to complete the fire hazard recall.

This was a large recall, and we're working with the supplier to meet the volume challenge as soon as possible, said Ford spokesman Dan Jarvis.

Devastating consequences
The continuing parts delay adds to mounting confusion in an already troubling situation for many Ford consumers faced with the cruise control recall. The consequences are sometimes devastating.

An Oregon family lost their truck and almost lost their home to a fire that originated in their Ford truck.

Friday January 11, 2008 my husband came home from work at 5:30 and parked his 2001 F-150 Supercrew in the driveway, they wrote. Just 45 minutes later the truck was fully engulfed in flames.

Our garage door and siding on the front of our house was damaged but not destroyed. The truck on the other hand is a total loss, the wife said.

The Oregon truck was part of the Ford recall, according to the owner.

When we got the letter regarding the recall we called Ford and they said that they didn't have the part that was required to fix it but that since our cruise control wasn't working (It had stopped working about 2 months before the fire) it must already be disconnected and we should be fine, said the truck owner, who asked not to be publicly identified.

The truck owner reports that Ford told them fires are rare so I wouldn't worry. From the sounds of all these stories they are not as rare as they would like the consumer to believe.

The struggling automaker continues to insist the company is responding adequately in an effort to notify Ford customers to return their vehicles to a Ford dealership for repair of the fire hazard.

We have sent multiple mailings to customers, based on current vehicle registrations, asking them to bring in vehicles. I dont have an exact figure, but about half of the total have done so to date. We have one of the highest return rates in the industry, based on update registration info, and sending multiple mailings, Ford spokesman Jarvis said in an email response to ConsumerAffairs.com.

Liability waiver
Some Ford dealers now require customers who decline to disconnect the cruise control system to sign a waiver of liability.

A Florida woman with a Ford Econoline Van equipped with hand controls for a wheel chair faced the demand that she sign the waiver. I need my cruise control if I have to travel any amount of distance, she wrote.

It has been since September 7 I have been waiting to get my van fixed, said this Ford owner. I tried to get Ford to fix the problem but they just want to plug it back in and if I sign the waiver and something happens they will no longer be responsible for any damages, she said.

A Ford Explorer owner in Bainbridge Island, Washington is not satisfied with the automakers explanation.

They say the part is back ordered. I also understand that this part was originally found unsafe back in 2005 although I was only notified in August 2007, he said.

In San Jose, California another Ford owner encountered similar treatment.

My local Ford dealer disconnected my cruise control in November 2007, saying that it was required if I was to get the defective part replaced but he could not replace the part because of a backlog on the part and that it would take one month, the owner wrote.

Now it's been over 2 months and my dealer has no estimate on a replacement part. The dealer said that I could reconnect the cruise control but if the car caught on fire it would be my problem, he said.

Back in Bainbridge Island, Washington that explanation has a hollow ring. I would like someone to put a fire under them, because they are not motivated to replace the item once they've disconnected it, the Explorer owner concluded.

@papa jim's disciple--I didn't realize papa jim was a cult leader. If papa asked you to jump off a roof would you do it? Please jump. As for Honda's most people who own them are very happy with them and buy them again and again.

It boggles my mind some of these ford fanatics cry about burnt light bulbs and warped rotters on their Ram when their Ford is at risk of burning to the ground causing everything near it to burn to the ground along with the truck. Just GOOGLE Ford Fire Recalls and people like myself whose Ford burnt from a Fire Recall. I guess they think it won't happen to them.

@HEMI V8

I hear what you are saying. all my trucks are treated nice with regular maintenance yet I get very different results. so for me I have to choose the brand that is less hassle and more reliable. Ford seems to do that. I had a one ton GMC duelie years ago and it was a great truck. The reason I never went back to GM products is I don't like the looks of them for the past 20 years.

From what I have read both Ford and Ram have had issues with fires. any Google search will can confirm that.

You say you don't want Ford because it might burn down your house or garage...okay

What if you and your family are travelling in your Ram and you get center punched by a idiot running a red light at a intersection causing your ram to roll... Ram did not do well at all in roll overs.. 2 out of 5 which is considered poor.

I guess the same could be said about Ram rear ends locking up... I waited over one year for the recall on my Ram and when it was addressed the truck returned three times for noise and clunking in the rear end... I was told it is fine... the noise was still there when I traded it.

I guess we can argue recalls on all brands or we can argue recalls are a good thing as it identifies manufactures repairing their short comings?

I just think for the cost of trucks one has to find what suits them best...after three tries I gave up with Ram. Do I hate Ram ..No I think all three north American trucks are very close in comfort, capability, power and fuel .... the only real difference for me is service issues. My three rams never left me stranded although my 2006 went into limp mode and I got it home and had it towed in once.

"I think if Ram can address reliability issues then they have a chance to take market numbers.... I see the opposite right now and within 5 to 7 years this could spell doom for them."


Posted by: R3NxSTONEx | Jul 27, 2014 3:07:16 PM

Why Chrysler’s Ram Is Outpacing Ford and GM
By Evan Hanson June 8, 2014 9:25 am EDT

Ram has gained a lot of ground on Ford recently, something that General Motors’ (NYSE: GM) all-new pickups haven’t been able to manage.

Chrysler’s Ram has gained a lot of ground this year
Here are the plain numbers: So far this year (through May), sales of Ford’s F-Series are up 1.9%, GM’s Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra are up a combined 1.6%… and Chrysler’s Ram is up 21%.

@R3NxSTONEx, So you want to compare a Ram in a wreck to A Ford that is parked. Sorry guy. : ( Their is no comparison.

@Homo B8,
Have any recent stories? That recall happened like 3 Chrysler ownership changes and half of its bailouts ago.

This study shows that what HemiV8 is spewing is complete bullsh!t.

If all of those issues he keeps posting were a systemic problem we would not see Ford rate as high as they did in this study. We also would not see Ford consistently rate higher than Ram in any dependability study.

What I have observed over my lifetime is Ford and GM tend to have issues that are either sporadic or confined to s specific age group or model group. These problems may be higher than "normal" for the brand but rarely alter the owner's perceptions of the brand. Sure some bad stuff happens but it doesn't affect every customer.

What I see with Dodge or Ram is their trucks are either extremely reliable or complete piles of crap. It often isn't tied to a specific model, year or class.

I know guys that have had Rams that have been problem free or complete nightmares. There rarely exists middle ground. Ford and GM tends to have more in the middle ground as opposed to complete nightmares.

The internet is great for exaggerating problems. The Raptor bent frame issue was a prime example. A few idiots with tuner kits and spring mods with no changes to the shocks bent frames but trucks in the same run with bone stock trucks who hit the same obstacle did not bend frames.

I'm less inclined to go on what anyone says on the net especially if they have an obvious fan boy bias and/or are angry at a brand.

Research companies like JD Power, Vincentric, True Delta, and Consumer Reports all present reliable data and their data tends to be in line with what each company reports.

That is what matters in research, consistent replicated results.

I will not buy a Ram until they consistently scores higher than Ford or GM.

Shootouts are interesting and provide one piece of the purchase puzzle, this kind of data presents another piece of the puzzle. One can add personal experience to that as well.

Ram rates highest with car companies because as far as I'm concerned Ram has turned the 1500 into a glorified car. The 2500 has been turned into a glorified 1500.

That is most likely why Ram rates high when averaged against cars and rates lower than Ford when compared only to trucks.

They may measure up in drag races, bling or "ooohhh..........shiny.......", but they don't measure up when you want to haul.

This site and many others focus on towing BUT in my part of the world trucks are bought to haul.

@R3NxSTONEx, "I guess we can argue recalls on all brands or we can argue recalls are a good thing as it identifies manufactures repairing their short comings?"
Posted by: R3NxSTONEx | Jul 27, 2014 5:07:31 PM

You betcha! Not to minimize the Ram recall for the rear end. That could be a big problem if it occurs on the highway However, unlike Ford this has not involved multi millions of vehicles and 20 plus years like the Ford Ignition switch Fires, cruise control fires, and electrical Fires Fords are famous for. Don't take my word for it do some research. Also keep in mind Fords are also recalled for many other issues. Fire is the worst in all recalls in my mind. I guess because i experienced it first hand very scary.

My Ram and current Ram trucks are more powerful,more options,more features, better gas mileage, better warranty,better looking and have an awesome 4x4 heritage compared to Ford. Most cases I can get more truck for the money. And that is why I bought and will continue to buy Ram trucks. Until someone make a better truck than Ram I will always buy Ram trucks. And as good as mine has been for the past 10 years why would I buy anything else?

@Lou-lost in BC, "What I see with Dodge or Ram is their trucks are either extremely reliable or complete piles of crap. It often isn't tied to a specific model, year or class."

REALLY? DO SOME RESEARCH ON RECALLS F-SERIES VS RAM.

AND HOW MANY RAM TRUCKS HAVE YOU OWNED?..................NONE!

SO YOU CAN HOLD UP YOUR JD POWER STUDY OR BETTER YET TRY AND PUT YOUR FORD FIRE OUT WITH IT. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czyaZmYz9FQ

Listen to the video. Guy said it was a brand new truck.

All this FORD fire recall from little hemi just goes on and on. Just stupidity on his little part. Everyone has recalls and they are generally taken care of. Time passes on and the past is just that. FORD hasn't been #1 all these years for nothing. If they were that bad then people wouldn't buy them. This could be an article about 2 goats getting it on in the front yard and little hemi would bring up FORD recalls from the past. The main thing here is FORD outsells fiat ram 3 to 1. Turd place is just that, the turd loser. FORD just plain stomps fiat ram in the ground year after year. Stay thirsty my friends.

Wow hemi v8 you have an 03 ram with only 95,000 miles? No wonder you haven't had trouble. I bet you store it in a garage? And you probably hit dirt roads four or five times a year and consider that abuse? I use my truck for work on a farm every day. Towing all kinds of different trailers (grain carts, fuel trailers, horse trailers, farm implements, boats, camp trailer). Hauling tools and equipment in the bed. I start my truck probably 5 to 10 times a day on average and idle a lot, getting in and out of the truck many times a day to check fields. Travel dirt and gravel roads about 1/3 of the time. Extremely dusty conditions except for the mud in some areas (our farm is all irrigated). I have gotten stuck in the mud, sand, or snow many times just doing what I do every day. And I put about 30,000 miles a year on my trucks in these conditions. I'm probably harder on a truck in one year than you are in 10 years. I admit sometimes I go a little long between oil changes. My air filters get dirty fast and I should replace them more often. In these conditions I've had good success with fords ( I did dust the engine in a super duty because I didn't properly seat the air filter but I considered that my own fault), not much personal experience with chevy but I have a lot of friends and relatives with them who generally seem happy with them, and a complete disappointment with my ram and I know of nobody that owns or has owned a dodge/ram pickup in the last 10 years and has good reliability working it the way I do.

@Truck Crazy--I tire as well of the stories of Ford's bursting out in flames. Sorry about Hemi V8's Mustang bursting in flames but lets move on.

I laugh at that "farmer" advertisement from ram from the super bowl last year. Farmers know or learn really fast that ram doesn't make a very durable truck. It would be interesting to see some statistics. I've been seeing a lot of farmers with rams since they redesigned them for 09, but they'll learn pretty quick as I have that the quality still isn't there.

@Truck crazy

Are u blind? Thats the current ford that still burn down! Lol

@Truck crazy

Are u blind? Thats the current ford that still burn down! Lol


Posted by: mp | Jul 27, 2014 7:09:49 PM

HE IS NOT BLIND. HE IS DRUNK ON THE KOOL AID.LOL

NOW GIVE ME RAMS RECALLS VS F SERIES PLEASE.

DIDN'T JD POWER RANK THE RECALL KING G.M TRUCKS HIGHER THAN FORD? LOL SAY'S A LOT ABOUT THIS STUDY DOESN'T IT?

@Truck Crazy--I tire as well of the stories of Ford's bursting out in flames. Sorry about Hemi V8's Mustang bursting in flames but lets move on.


Posted by: Jeff S | Jul 27, 2014 6:58:38 PM

That's funny, When is Ford going to move on.lol Looks like they are still burning past present and future. Ford just keeps burning and burning. "Stories"lol DON'T TAKE MY WORD. LOOK IT UP!
PLEASE. TELL ME I AM WRONG. FORD IS NUMBER ONE IN FIRE RECALLS WITH CHEVY TRYING TO CATCH UP.

My Ram and current Ram trucks are more powerful,more options,more features, better gas mileage, better warranty,better looking and have an awesome 4x4 heritage compared to Ford.

FUNNY I DIDN'T SEE RAM IN THIRD PLACE IN HEADS UP COMPETITION WITH FORD OR CHEVY. KING OF TOWING.
STOMPING THE COMPETITION.

P.S. STAY THIRSTY MY FRIENDS. LOL

@Hemi/Hemi V8/Hemi Rampage/ or whatever other names you go by

You like to post others brands recalls just to be an anus and point out flaws in other brands. Yet when Ram has a recall, you post........

BEING RESPONSIBLE
OWNING UP TO YOUR PROBLEMS
FIXING IT AND MAKING IT RIGHT
NOT IGNORING IT LIKE FORD AND GM
MAKING JEALOUS FORD AND GM FANBOIS ACT LIKE BABIES
BEST TRUCKS IN THE USA
RAM
Posted by: HEMI RAMPAGE | Dec 10, 2013 8:38:41 AM

Or.....

WoW! A warning light and a bolt. STOP THE PRESS!
Posted by: HEMI V8 | Jul 17, 2013 2:44:52 PM

On a recall on a warning light Ram had last year.

The lat few Ram recalls from this year you seem not to post in them.


Sois this how it works for you? When some other brand has a recall then it is a big deal and has to be posted in just about every article even though the article has nothing to do with it. But......what Ram has a recall then they are doing the right thing by making it right or it isn't e big deal to you. You Fing hypocritical fan boy. All you like doing is being an internet tough guy bashing others all the time yet when it comes to your own favorite things you make excuses.

BTW, Ram trucks have had more trucks recalls in the last two years than Fords. Don't believe me, look up all recalls in the last two years involving Rams vehicles versus F series trucks and E series vans since this time 2012. So quit the crap in acting like Ram's sh!t don't stink because all makes are bound to have their flaws.

@All1, Notice in every post Ford fanbois drunk on the kool aid start the $#!^ I just show them they are full of it. lol


Stay thirsty my friends.

@Hemi V8

So which one is it?

Are recalls "making it right" as you say for Ram recalls?

-or-

Are they a testament to a brands reliability like you say for every other makes recalls?

@All1, YOU TELL ME? MY 03 4X4 RAM HAS NO RECALLS. YOUR 2011 FORD?

Some people don't need to much to be happy ,,,like drive a ford or honda,,imagine if they drive a real pickup,,

@Hemi V8

Why you dodging(no pun intended) my question?

To answer your question. No, my truck wasn't involved in any of the 4 recalls for 2011 F150 trucks. I am glad your truck missed the 4 recalls for the 2003 1500s as well?


So? Which one is it? Recalls are maSo which one is it?

Are recalls "making it right" as you say for Ram recalls?

-or-

Are they a testament to a brands reliability like you say for every other makes recalls?

@All1, I would not enjoy taking my brand new 40,000 plus truck back to the dealer.
A new vehicle should be dependable and trouble free. Isn't that why most people sell their old money pit for a new one?

I think what the recall is for makes a difference as well don't you?

Having a warranty also matters. Gives me piece of mind knowing if something happens it's covered at no or little cost to me. I have never had a recall or warranty problem so I have no real world experience. Shocking for a 10 year old P.O.S Dodge that I own isn't it?

@HemiV8 -

- Recalls are for safety issues.
- A flaw or problem is found and there is an increased chance of problems.
- It does not mean every unit will have an incident occur due to the recall.
- Large recalls are due to shared components i.e. Ford using the cruise control switch manufactured by Texas Instruments USA or Toyota using a brake pedal made by CTS USA.

It is like smoking and lung cancer.
Is everyone who smokes going to die of the disease?
No - there is a higher risk for all who smoke.
Same with recalls - not every vehicle will be affected. The odds are higher.

Blather on all you want...... JD Power, Vincentric and Consumer Reports universally give poor ratings to Ram.

Your truck is allegedly trouble free..........

Beebe's Ram is not.

Which guy do I believe?

The guy with the fire phobia and hate on for Ford or the guy who doesn't fill this site full of spam?

It ain't rocket science - Beebe is considerably more credible than you. The only other Ram owner on this site that sounds credible is HemiMonster.

Since I don't know any of you, I'll stick with credible research results from JD Power etc.

I used research stats when buying my 2010 and it has been mechanically trouble free. Its life in Northern Canada is considerably more harsh that your truck's life.

@Hemi V8

" Isn't that why most people sell their old money pit for a new one? "

It varies. Some like me just want the newest thing out if they like it enough. I don't usually keep vehicles past 5 years. It is not that what I traded in was bad. It was just that I wanted a change or something new that came out with more power.

"I think what the recall is for makes a difference as well don't you? "

Both the Ram 1500 and F150 were completely redone to their current generations.

Since then Ram has had 2 recalls a year in 2013, 2012, 2010, and 2009 models with no recalls on their 2014 models. The most severe being the chance of the rear axle locking up while driving due to a loose nut on multiple years. This is followed by the rear axle bearing recall where there was chance it could seize and lock up the axle while driving.

The F150 has had 1 recall on there 2014, 0 recalls on their 2013, 0 recalls on their 2012, 4 recalls on their 2011, 1 recall on their 2010, and 2 recalls on their 2009. The most severe being Body Control Module short on trucks in a month time span followed by a incorrect transmission shift sequence for reverse as being the next most severe.

"I have never had a recall or warranty problem so I have no real world experience. Shocking for a 10 year old P.O.S Dodge that I own isn't it? "

No, that is not shocking. I have known many people with vehicles from all makes that have never had issues with their trucks with some being even older than yours. Although on my end my warranty goes out the window with some of the mods that I do to my vehicles, but I don't mind to pay to play. My dealer overlooks a lot of things for me though.

Ooops! I skipped that the Ram had 2 recalls in 2011 as well making it a total of 10 for the current generation in the comment above .

@All1, Sorry bud. You and all the Ford fans are not going to convince me Ford makes a better truck than Ram. With Ram having more power,more warranty,more options, better looks, better ride, endless awards, and out performing the competition in head to head comparison. Why do I want/need to buy a Ford truck. Can the ford fans believe I have just as much pride in my Dodge that they have in their Fords?

@All1, Soooooo, the worst recall was a nut in the rear on the Ram? (see my above post on this)

And fords Fire recall of 2011 with trucks burning on the assembly line is not ALARMING TO YOU?

AGAIN IT DEPENDS WHAT A RECALL IS FOR.

@Hemi V8

That's funny, you brush off a possible axle lock up while you are driving down the road on 260,000 trucks across many year models that even the Feds are currently investigating as "just a loose nut". Yet a BCM short that was caught on the 14,500 trucks that had the issue before most were sold to customers.

Let me see how you would like your rear axle locking up on you at 70 mph. I bet you won't call it "just a loose nut" after you that if you live through it. This is not ALARMING TO YOU?

Also, why do you yell a lot? Are you angry all the time or something? Have you tried rubbing one out to relieve the stress?



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