2015 Ford F-150 Transmission Software Upgrade

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Ford has released a service bulletin regarding a powertrain glitch in the transmission software that makes the shift from 5th to 4th gear harder than it should be.

According to the service bulletin published at Cars.com, dealers will update the software free of charge under warranty. Call your local dealer with your vehicle's identification number to determine if it's involved in this service campaign. You can also call Ford at 800-241-3673 or NHTSA at 888-327-4236. Reference TSB No. 15-0142.

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Maybe Ford forgot that this truck is 700 lbs lighter.

Military Grade free software upgrade.

And THAT is why I will never buy that Ford junk!

I own one havent had this problem, This really isnt news its a TSB not even a recall

My 2010 F150 6sp had the infamous tranny bump. It bumped every time I came to a stop and then started to go. It was very irritating. Took it to Ford and they had no clue why it was doing it. And that was after a reflash of the tranny. The service guy latterly told me to drive it till something broke then they'd know what to fix.
That's why I won't own another Ford. I feel for the guys that have Ford tranny issues. Ford has no clue how to build light duty trannies.

My 2010 F150 6sp had the infamous tranny bump. It bumped every time I came to a stop and then started to go. It was very irritating. Took it to Ford and they had no clue why it was doing it. And that was after a reflash of the tranny. The service guy latterly told me to drive it till something broke then they'd know what to fix.
That's why I won't own another Ford. I feel for the guys that have Ford tranny issues. Ford has no clue how to build light duty trannies.

It's good that Ford are attempting to rectify a problem.

It seems Ford is quite slow at any issue with their gearboxes.

Even the Ford built Getrag MT82 has had significant problems for a decade and Ford hasn't been able to rectify the problems completely.

dale milner -really?
I own a 2010 F150. The only issue if you want to call it that is a rough shift around 35-40 mph that occurs if the truck isn't warmed up in freezing cold weather under load on a steep hill. The rest of the time it is fine. Never any issues.

I test drove a 2015 Ram 1500 Pentastar that would shift into first violently. My son was with me and the salesman. My son even commented on it. The salesman acted like nothing was unusual. I wanted to test drive an Ecodiesel but they lied and said they didn't have any. 2 days later they somehow found the keys to 5 of them.

Lou_BC,
Of course the Ram is that little bit worse, how can it not be.

You really take the cake selling and pushing Frods.

How much do you get paid working in the marketing industry?

Ford HAS problem with their gearbags, simple.

I own a "Ford" and it has gearbox problems. This gearbox has had these issues since 2007.

AND Ford has yet to rectify completey these problems.

BIg Deal, so Ford is being proactive, is this news worthy?

Lou-BC I 5hink what he is talking about is the 3-1 bump when coming to a stop this is characteristic to the original ZF design 6R80 transmission in the 2009 and 2010 trucks along with the older 6R60 transmissions in some Explorers. The cause of that bump was ZF did not use a low one way mechanical clutch. They instead used the low reverse hydraulic clutch to engage 1st gear. Under deceleration the bump felt is the hydraulic clutch applying. Ford came out with a calibration to hold 3rd or 2nd gear till the vehicle was almost stopped to reduce the bump feel. 2011 Ford made many changes to the 6R80 and one of those was add a mechanical oneway. Pretty much took care of it.

No different than the GM rear drive 6 speeds that has a 3-4 shift flare. Just a characteristic. I've been to the GM dealer listening to one of their customers going BARFO because of it.

lol, can'the wait to see the confusion at Ford with a 10 speed.

They are still trying to sort out the 6 speed, it only gets harder to program with more gears.

Chrysler did good with the 8 speeds, but the 9 no speeds are another issue.

There will be issues.

lol, I have driven 4 8 speeds, none of the ones I drove were rough shifting.

But Lou denies that Ford has a issue with the 6 speeds, he's funny like that!

Hey, I wonder with Ford taking the longer spring out of the F-150 for less comfort, and saving weight, do they get even more particular about where they TELL YOU TO DRIVE on a test drive? Like, hey, avoid that bumpy road!

The two EcoBoost pre 2015 I drove, they told me EXACTLY how to drive.

I own a new 2014 F150 6.2L Screw Lariat 157. It had 38 miles on it when I bought it, and it developed the bump stop and start at 1500 miles.it has the two piece drive shaft, took in and requested the Teflon grease TSB done on the splines. It helped about half of it. Then I took back and dropped the pan to check for metal, their was just a few shavings. They cleared the memory of the ecm and it is a hell of lot better! At 5500 miles I think the problem is gone and the thing shifts like it should now. This thing will roar when you mash it. Last of the big blocks. Ford took out interior room in the new truck, they ruined it. They cheapened it, if I don't keep my rear configured f 150, it's GM next time.

Seems like most vehicles with new tranny's has had software updates. No big deal, they just flash them when you bring them into service.....

cannot believe some guy brings up a truck from 6 years ago. Dale Miner, how many miles did you drive that truck before you sold it?

Buy the way I paid out of pocket for trans service, that with the ECM memory being cleared made all the difference. Now that it is learning my driving style.

I'm not even a ford fan and I'm sitting here thinking, "why is this news?"

Every manufacturer has these, why is fords special enough to make the news?

I am talking about the 2015 F150, there is less interior room in it than the old truck. They cheapened it and ruined it, plus it's ugly.

Your right, GM has the same spline bump stop problem. My new Tundra in 2007 had it. Toyota replaced the entire drive shaft from a different supplier and it totally fixed it.

@BARFo - according to TTAC you own a Chinese built Mazda.

And yes, every FCA product I've owned or operated has been worse than any other comparable product.

Interestingly enough, every durability survey on the planet agrees with me.

Durability data is the first thing I look at when making a vehicle purchase decision. Ford and Toyota scored the best in 2010 when my wife and I purchased two brand new vehicles.

There are a lot of Ford's I won't buy due to that data. Same goes for GM and universally for FCA.

TRX-4 Tom - I did not deny Ford having an issue. I said I have not had issues with mine. On this site there is too much BS being posted so if someone makes a post that I don't agree with I will ask for information or post my own experience.

Ok this is weird. Why is this site posting this TSB? It was released Sept 16, 2015. This is really old news.

CVT Transmissions for pickups will solve all the problems

LMAO - conspiracy theorists would say it is PUTC's attempt at appearing balanced with its news.

BC Mike, aka Lou,
I do think Mustangs are using the same manual gearbox I have.

So, this is only an issue outside of the US and Canada???

What six speed auto is used behind the 3.2 diesels and what 6 speeds are used behind F-150s????

Seems like you have been selling Fords for way to long.

What six speed auto is used behind the 3.2 diesels and what 6 speeds are used behind F-150s????

Seems like you have been selling Fords for way to long.


Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 4, 2016 5:02:23 PM

BARFO, in the states Ford uses the newer version of the 6R80 in the F150, Mustang and Transit (all engines). Superduty uses the 6R140.

Ford HAS problem with their gearbags, simple.

I own a "Ford" and it has gearbox problems. This gearbox has had these issues since 2007.

AND Ford has yet to rectify completey these problems.


Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 4, 2016 1:32:23 PM

You could learn how to shift. And you need to be more specific on what manual transmission. Ford buys several different brands of manual transmissions.

BARFo buys a Chinese built Mazda and is now an expert on all that is pickup.

Are you going to tell us that you blew a tranny?

Wow! Here is Fords steel truck vs Beer can tough grade. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hA2IHa1neE

Everyone here knows Mark Williams loves Ford. Look at this title. How could this possibly be an upgrade?!


Everyone here knows Mark Williams loves Ford. Look at this title. How could this possibly be an upgrade?!

Posted by: Montands | Feb 4, 2016 7:15:07 PM

It is not really an upgrade. It is a fix for a calibration issue. But this has been out for 6 months. This is far from new news.

Lou BC has a tiny schmeckle.

nitro,
Do you understand the difference between,
1. Reactive,

2. Proactive, and

3. Generative?

Ford's response is called reactive in this case.

Proactive would of been fixing the problem as soon as it occurred years ago.

Proactive would of been to adequately test the product prior to release so this poor shifting never occurred to the consumer.

Ford failed again, similar to how it has responded to my gearbox not able to manage the torque effectively.

Big al, you are technically correct , however the f150s that have not yet experienced any rough shifts or glitches in software and may never, are getting fixed before any actual reason for a response has occurred. Which technically would be a proactive fix to a reactive concern. But u are still correct. And i would guess they tested quite vigorously as all brands do. The 2015 i drive at work shifts quite smoothly through out all the gears downshifting and all. Not sure how many vehicles this effects or if the problem is directly out of the factory or occurs after time due to certain factors such as moisture. That would be nice to know.

oilfieldfx4,
It isn't the gearbox, but the software I realise.

The issue with my MT82 (stick 6spd) was the gearbox might handle a Boss Mustang, but it has an issue handling a diesel in the torque department, or I should say continuous high levels of torque.

Even though the box is rated to handle the torque of my diesel we naturally use torque and not horsepower/rpm.

I leave it in top with the cruise on, and let it go. It actually goes up very steep inclines in 6th. I'm talking inclines of up to 5km and not drop any speed at 110-120kph.

This really loads the gearbox. Toyota actually had gearbox issues when the Landcruisers first went to turbo diesel in the late 80s early 90s.

You think the manufacturers would know by now what is required for a diesel vs gasoline vehicle, especially a vehicle that is rated to have a GVM of 6 000kg (13 000lbs).

This is why I have little faith in those tow figures from the US or Australia. They all are over rated to the sh!thouse.

How long will a US half ton or even one of our global midsizers last towing at their max?

We had those 6spds at the last place my employers had me working with the Rangers.

These 6spd autos were disgusting to say the least in the diesel Rangers. They were all over the shop with the shifting from 4th to 5th.

At work the guys were saying because the vehicle is driven by so many different drivers the computer had a hard time adjusting.

They ended up at the shop to have the mapping looked at. Work moved to Brisbane and I don't know if they have sorted out those Ranger gearboxes.

We have Mitsubishi Tritons at work. Not so good. They are cheap and nasty for a "Japanese" pickup.

GM ignition switch defects tied to 124 deaths, 275 injuries......

Ford failed again, similar to how it has responded to my gearbox not able to manage the torque effectively.


Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 4, 2016 10:37:14 PM

Ok BARFO, since you are calling out Ford for having a technical service bulletin for a fix, name one auto company that builds their trucks so well they do not have any TSBs. I know both GM and Fiat does.

A little perspective folks...

A service bulletin about harder than they should be shifts.

Corrected by plugging it a diagnostic computer and getting a software update.

Free of Charge.

0 deaths.

0 injuries.

0 Government involvement,

That's news?

Spinning it as an "upgrade" does sound like suspected bias.

You all do know that EVERY manufacturer has service bullitiens right? VERY few are "newsworthy".

This is NOTHING like the airbag disaster, GMs ignition, or the great Fiat buyback.

Don't try to imagine it is.

And remember if your Ford truck shifts a little hard going from 4th to 5th go get your free software adjustment.

@BARFO, I do like how you said LouBC or a different name, yet your IP is associated with a whopping 4 different names on here, classic, I said before and will say it again.....

WILL THE REAL BAFO STAND UP!

Hey nitro : how many names are associated with my IP address.

Hey nitro : how many names are associated with my IP address.


Posted by: LMAO | Feb 5, 2016 7:58:43 AM

Well I can tell you cobaltsrgreat, that one is not associated with any of my IP address's.

LMAO actually cant see yours appears to have a block, I know you are not associated with cobaltsrgreat, hahaha

@ Clint,

The Fiat buyback? Of course anyone on this site that uses the term, "Fiat" when referring to a Ram truck is bias against Ram trucks. The only reason Ram had to buy back so many trucks was because the Government was involved, PERIOD. Big Brother is too involved in the auto industry. The only good thing that has/will come from them being too involved is that they are forcing the industry to create new tech that customers will thrive on. Unfortunately for us, it means more expensive cars and trucks. As far as recalls goes, see this link for some information:
http://time.com/45235/gm-recall-model-interactive/

I don't see why everyone is all recall crazy anymore. I mean seriously, we have cars and trucks that are extremely sophisticated with a lot of new generation hardware and software. You have over paid UAW workers putting these together along with other people around the world. These vehicles are mass produced and share a lot of common architecture with other models. If I see a recall come out I am thinking "good, they identified an issue, determined a fix and rolled it out". What I don't like to see is a cover up. And I'm not talking about a few cases of internet complaints either. I think manufactures will get to the point of figuring things out better in the future to reduce recall rates. That has to be a high cost absorbed and can't see where it does the manufacturesame any good doing recalls all the time.

Seems like most vehicles with new tranny's has had software updates. No big deal, they just flash them when you bring them into service.....

cannot believe some guy brings up a truck from 6 years ago. Dale Miner, how many miles did you drive that truck before you sold it?
I had close to 24,000 on it. And it was flashed twice. Go to the F150 Forum and there's plenty of stuff to read about the tranny issues. My 2010 was the 6sp that you couldn't lockout either 5th or 6th ODs. I got rid of the truck in July of 2012. Even the 3.5 Eco Boost with the newer style 2011 trannies had the same issue. In fact there were more F150 Forum members with the 3.5 reporting problems than 5.4 owners.

Montanda... sorry you cant deal with the realities of ownership in the real world. Yes FIAT had to buy back a lot of its trucks. That buy back will effect FIAT, and yes the government had to ORDER it because FIAT displayed a MASSIVE lack of ethical responsibility. Or would you rather just admit that "Ram" built a bunch of bad trucks that Ram refused to make good and got the gov involved? Did it bother you when the "Big Brother" Gov Fiat's takeover of a insovlent and bankrupt Chrysler that its non car making parent was ready to shutter? So your a gov fan of free money, but not ethical enforcement? Your a fan of Ram but not Fiat which owns Ram and controls Ram and in effect Ram is Fiat? .

Personally I much prefer when a manufacturer acts responsibly (both financially and ethically) and avoids becoming involved in government interaction at all.

Today's vehicles are so technically complex it is a wonder that there are not more recalls. It is better to recall a vehicle and fix it than to hide a defect. GM should have recalled the vehicles with defective ignition switches as soon as it was discovered, would have saved lives and GM money. GM ended up spending much more and hurt their reputation as well.

@ Lou_BC ,

You make me never to want a Ford..

Ford owners are ignorant, belligerent dolts.

Furthermore , Chrysler is Canada's best selling Automaker !! And with your posts attempting to put down RAM ,but you fail...A Military Grade FAIL !!

**TRUTH FORD MILITARY GRADE IS TRUE....

IT IS MILITARY GRADE FOR THEIR TOILET SEAT'S !!

No one here gives a fart about australia, nevertheless, a few dolts from there post here consistently. Crazy world.

This isn't a "Ford thing." The transmission is a license-built version of a ZF unit that is used in a wide variety of high-powered luxury cars.

I've experienced "the bump" a few times. Obviously what's happening is the torque converter isn't unlocking when the downshift occurs. It's rare, and no more than a minor annoyance as far as I'm concerned. After a year and 30K miles I still love this truck more than I could love a human baby.

Hopefully it's just a software issue. I guess I'll find out.



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