Ford Upgrades 2017 Super Duty Work Trucks

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Ford made two big announcements at the 2016 National Truck Equipment Association's Work Truck Show in Indianapolis: It's upgraded the Super Duty chassis cabs and the Power Stroke engine used in the F-650 and F-750.

The biggest news from Ford centers on the all-new 2017 F-350, F-450 and F-550 aluminum-bodied chassis-cab models, which will now be stronger and tougher due to heavier-duty axles, suspension pieces and frame; however, the most significant improvement for many commercial truck customers is that the stronger front axle now offers a higher weight rating, making it better able to accommodate large snowplows or other types of front-end equipment. Additionally, the new chassis cabs will have the highest gross combined weight ratings in the segment, with a max GCWR of 40,000 pounds. As for the available Power Stroke V-8 turbo-diesel engine, it will now make 30 more horsepower.

Other Ford news from the Work Truck Show, which runs Friday, included smaller improvements for the Power Stroke 6.7-liter V-8 turbo-diesel, making it both quieter at idle and at 60 mph. Ford is so confident about the upgraded Power Stroke turbo-diesel — available with 270, 300 or 330 hp — that it claims 90 percent of F-650 and F-750 medium-duty trucks won't need a major service (such as breaking into the cylinder heads or dropping oil pans) for 500,000 miles, a distance similar to traveling to the moon and back.

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Ford towing a Chevy. Ford PR having fun with photoshop at GM's expense. LOL

WOW!! Ford just keeps on making these trucks better and better. Way to go Ford!

@LouBC unfair advantage to the Ford. The Chevy has its drive wheels off the ground--otherwise the Chevy would be pulling the Ford the other direction.

papa jim - that would be interesting to see.

The dumptruck photoshop is funny.

No tire tracks.

Maybe those aluminum trucks just float across terrain.

" F-650 and F-750 medium-duty trucks won't need a major service (such as breaking into the cylinder heads or dropping oil pans) for 500,000 miles"

Funniest s&!t I heard all year. I guess if you over clock the mileage odometer by 200% on your Powerjoke, it might make it to 500,000 before breaking into the cylinder heads or dropping oil pan then. LMBO!!!!!!

I've often wondered why they don't offer a derated version for the F250. Some of us would be very happy for 300HP 600Tq motor in that class for a bit more economy and longevity. I remember when 250/500 was serious power...

Johnny Doe, you really are just a real wealth of useless drivel. It seems the ones who know the least about the automotive industry post the most BS. You fit that bill perfectly. It's great if you don't like Ford. More power to you. Just nobody wants to read your stupid rants. You would be taken more seriously if you only posted when you have something constructive to say about the topic at hand. But reading most of your posts you appear to be lacking real intelligence

@Yupp! It is constructive, since most of the Super Duty chassis cabs with the 6.7L Power Stroke engine have had the most failures. I guess you are the one that doesn't know much about the automotive industry. LMBO!!!

@ Johnny Doughnuthead.

Ma the Meatloaf.

That's all you got Todd, the peter puffin Ford clown? LMBO!

@CreigMac, they shouldn't have to detune it to boost fuel economy. But for some reason the second generation of the Ford 6.7 Power Stroke gets horrible fuel economy compared to the first gen. I took one for a drive around the foothills here and averaged 10.8mpg. Then I tried it in a brand new Ram 2500 6.7, and I averaged 16.2! A 50% improvement! I hear there will be some changes to the Cummins in the near future, but I really hope they don't sacrifice fuel economy for a few horses.

Johnny Doe. Nice try. Employed by a major OEM. Welding Engineer by trade. You? The turbo problems on the early chassis cabs are not news and have been taken care of. Was that issue on a brand new engine design any different than the early issues on the Duramax? The only point here is your posting crap with no data to back up your claim that this next gen Powerstroke will not make good on the 500k. Only time will tell. You are just a trvll posting crap about anything Ford. This is and always has been very obvious


Yupp! Nice try kid, you forgot bout all the valve train failures, and glow plugs tips that break and fall into the cylinder. You want proof.

http://www.powerstrokehelp.com/default.asp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN8L4ZTGtOs#t=60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjEwzTx1qA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjEwzTx1qA

I've never seen a truck with more major problems than Ford. Every truck manufacturer has the occasional minor problem, but valves, glow plugs, radiators, transmissions, etc. and they supposedly test the thing to death! Maybe I'd buy one if I never read the forums.

Kid you asked for proof, then get mad when I proved it. Get over yourself. The 6.7L has problems like it or not.

Johnny, if you took the time to read up of the failures the vast majority of the valve issues were on the first run of 6.7L built for chassis cabs. It was corrected for that problem in early 2011. It would have been good of Ford to offer those customers an extended warranty on thone engines though as a good faith measure.

All tli gota say is,built ford tough we got 6.7 in our,fleet and we had minor issues and got fix there all good truck no problems we got 12 13 14 15 no problems at all built ford tough

All tli gota say is,built ford tough we got 6.7 in our,fleet and we had minor issues and got fix there all good truck no problems we got 12 13 14 15 no problems at all built ford tough

Creig Mac. I totally agree with you. Although the economy/mpg ship for diesel sailed when the complicated emissions systems became a requirement (also hurting realiability). This effected all manufacturers negatively.

I like you think a lot of fleets would happily buy 250-300ish HP and 500lb ft trucks with engines that deliver near bulletproof reliability and longevity.

The biggest problem is "good enough" isn't "class leading" and as soon as someone gets SMOKED at a stoplight or pulling a trailer up a hill by another non detuned truck that was a few grand more, then that detuned model suddenly only appeals to fleets and a very small consumer market. Then there are the costs associated with more offerings that don't involve heaters in seats and holes in the roof to see where the sky is... Especially additional costs that don't deliver higher sticker prices.

Johnny Dope. Who said I was mad? Also, let me correct you. The 6.7 had problems. Those were no different than all the issues GM had with the Duramax. You are what I like to call a regurgitation engineer. You just google the old internet and just regurgitate what you read without any real understanding. I offered up what I do within the auto industry. Are you too much of a p*ssy to offer you experience. Let me guess you will comeback with some stupid kid comment like you always do.

The LML Duramax wiped the floor with this 6.7 powerstroke. It's nice Ford can make it's own engine, but when you are getting beat up and down by a engine that on paper has way less power is sad.

Johnny doe. Please do us a favor and don't comment on ford. Or at least try to contribute something thoughtful and unbiased

The reality is that their 500,000 mile claim is probably not a stretch. Some over the road haulers can make that claim to 800,000. Even 1,000,000 miles is possible for those trucks trucks. Though mostly 6 cylinder engines in a different class. But 500,000 seems reasonable if ford knows what they are doing here. Johnny does response just illustrates how little he knows about the subject.

I'll stick with Ram/Cummins power combo ! Thank You

first upgrade needed is a couple fire extinguishers in each one!

Awesome job Ford, the leader of the pack!

I did contribute, Ford won't make it 500,000 miles, and posted the proof to back it up. Butthurt Ford clowns are so clueless it's almost not even funny.

Johnny, you posted absolutely no proof. You have a few links. There are more 6.7L powerstrokes out now than the entire run of Ram/Cummins since the inception. Ram just paraded the fact that 1 millionth Cummins was built not that long ago. Ford announced a few years ago that they hit 500,000 6.7L. Based on that trend they have equaled or surpassed the Cummins. The Duramax is not that far ahead now of the 6.7L. So no, you appear to be the butt hurt child here.

Unfortunately Johnny Doe, you do not appear to know what the engine B life is. The Duramax is 250K, the Cummins is either 300 or 350K. It appears the new truck based Ford 6.7L is claimed at 500k.

Anybody can claim anything. The proof will be when the engines actually reach that goal.

Kowalski much agreed.

Unfortunately Johnny Doe, you do not appear to know what the engine B life is. The Duramax is 250K, the Cummins is either 300 or 350K. It appears the new truck based Ford 6.7L is claimed at 500k.
Posted by: O Bloody Hell | Mar 2, 2016 12:20:18 PM

Where is the info to this or some kind of proof to back up your claim O Bloody Hell?

Oh hell I forgot O Bloody Hel,l your just another made up name from one of the 5 crazy stupid Ford clowns that post here.

Johnny Dope. Look up B10/B50 engine life and learn a little. Then maybe you will not look like such a Johnny Dope. I'm still waiting for you to tell me your experience in the auto industry. Don't be such a p*ssy and tell me. Or are you as I said earlier, a regurgitation engineer that can only spew crap he reads on the internet. Oh and I'm anxiously waiting on your next "kid" comeback.

I bought new trucks and worked on many others over my life time. You think I'm a engineer Mr. Yupp? LMBO! Let me guess your LMAO kid, disappeared said you was going on vacation for a week, because you got laughed off the site. Now you come back as Yupp and O Bloody Hell. You want to know how I can tell? You got the same I know every thing tune. Well where is your link to info to prove your Duramax is 250K, the Cummins is either 300 or 350K claims? I won't get mad and act like a kid as you do, if you can show me some proof from good sources.

Does anybody know what truck Marco Rubio is going to use to drive around the country with?

@Lou_DC |Does anybody know what truck Marco Rubio is going to use to drive around the country with?

In January 2015 his wife was driving their Ford pickup and she got too close four-door Porsche Panamera and sideswiped it.

http://pagesix.com/2015/01/27/marco-rubios-crashes-family-car-into-porsche/

Sorry Johnny Doe, you are the only one in this thread that thinks he knows it all. Look up the info yourself. It is out there. It should be easy for a know it all like you to find. B life is common knowledge in the diesel world, you should know that.

Johnny Dope. Not pretending to be anybody. Typical you would think that but it's your go to when challenged. I never said you were an actual engineer, just a regurgitation engineer. I knew you were just some old fart cruising the blogs trying to look smart. Typical. I am still waiting for you to tell me what you do as a profession. I told you I was a welding engineer. You too scared to let everybody here know what you do?

Blah blah blah, never said I knew it all. Real life says no to a 500K 6.7L Powerjoke with out major engine work. Just like F150s - F350s that on paper claim to have higher pay load ratings, but drag the rear bumper on the ground with = weight to the competition / just like 440 hp 880 tq 6.7L Powerjokes are slower at pulling the same weight as a 397 HP 765 tq Duramax. Like I said I aint the smartest person, but when a Ford tech strait up tells you, Ford didn't care to fix common known problems on cheaper parts with 2004-2014 F150s then diesel engine parts. Yeah anyone with a bit of common sense knows better. Ford can write what ever they want on their paper brochure, but real life proves they are full of s$%t! Your best chance of a none major engine work Powerjoke for 500K miles is a 6.9L or 7.3L end of the story!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8RnrdJ_mPA&index=25&list=FLHeEbQTJ7WxBltlAXa9AGbA

Yupp! AKA LMAO kid, I done told you what I do for a living few times on here,

Johnny dumb. For the last time you D*umb F*uk I'm not LMAO. So no I do not know what you do. I gather you are a greeter at Walmart with the way you get all defensive when challenged. Back to the article. You have no basis for stating the updated Powerstroke will not make the 500k overhaul. You just a biased old goat who drive an old busted up Chevy

Unfortunately Johnny Doe, you do not appear to know what the engine B life is. The Duramax is 250K, the Cummins is either 300 or 350K. It appears the new truck based Ford 6.7L is claimed at 500k.
Posted by: O Bloody Hell | Mar 2, 2016 12:20:18 PM


You seem to put a lot of weight behind the B10/B50 numbers.

Considering the 7.3 PS, the last truly reliable PS had a B10 of only 200K miles, so 250k from Duramax would be an acceptable statistic to me. After all, the Duramax hasn't had nearly as drastic of redesign as the Powerstroke has between the 7.3>6.0>6.4>6.7.

And the medium duty 6.7 PS being rated at 500k miles doesn't mean you can turn around and claim the 6.7PS in the F250/F350/F450 has the same life expectancy. Any engine can achieve extended B10/B50 numbers if they're detuned enough.

Ford states the 6.7 has been "Tested to 250,000 miles":
http://www.slideshare.net/FordMotorCompany/diesel-forum-presentation

all defensive by Yupp!

Um no, I'm not all bout just GM trucks. I said may a time I like the 90s Ford trucks, Hell even said what Ford diesels would make 500K. Stop being a a## hurt Ford butt monkey and deal with the truth please!

Johnny doe. Nope not defensive. Just defending myself as not being LMAO you jerk. I happen to have nothing against GM trucks. I really thing the 6.2 8 speed is a fantastic power train. Second I have never given any indication of being a Ford fan B*y. You just inferred that because I called you out on a couple of posts. Your really easy to see through as all you do is post crap on any Ford related story. Grow up kid. One day you will be able to afford a new truck

And you still have not told me what you do as a profession. You embarrassed? Feeling inadequate?

HAHA Okay kid, end of the time I got to waste today. If you want to know what I do for a living, you can go back 5 plus years and see what I've done for a living. If it really matters so much to you.

Johnny doe boy. You P*ssy. I knew you would not tell me. Go back to greeting the customers at Walmart before you get fired.



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