Spied: 2018 Ford F-150 Turbo-Diesel

Spy F-150 diesel 1 II

All truckmakers are pushing their powertrain engineering teams to explore and innovate multiple paths to better fuel economy in order to meet the aggressive EPA and National Highway Traffic Safety Administration fuel-economy thresholds by model-year 2025.

To meet those new light-duty truck mpg standards in just eight short years, Ford is looking to diesel and hybrid powertrains. Our spy shooters just caught a camouflaged F-150 with tagging that could mean a new baby Power Stroke diesel engine could be available as soon as the 2018 model year. Here's what they sent to us.

"Today we bring you further proof of a 2018 Ford F-150 with a turbo-diesel engine destined for sale.

“Caught earlier testing on Michigan roads, this emissions certificate on the back window of the prototype pickup indicates it is a 3.0-liter unit rather than the 3.2-liter diesel that's offered in the full-size Transit van. The JFC1-3.0-966 on the sticker is the emissions calibration code. The JFC1 is the control unit catchword; the 3.0 is the engine displacement; and the 966 is the last three digits of the vehicle tag number.

“This further confirms that Ford will be using the Lion V-6 found in current Jaguar/Land Rover vehicles such as the Range Rover. The engine was developed while Ford still owned JLR. The F-150 diesel is also identified by the venturi exhaust tip, necessary to more efficiently cool down gas temperatures.

“Ford will be gunning after the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel, which uses an Italian-sourced 3.0-liter V-6 and eight-speed automatic transmission, for the segment fuel-economy victory. Whether or not the F-150 diesel (which may or may not be called a baby Power Stroke) will debut with the face-lifted F-150 series is uncertain (see last photo below), but it should come equipped with the new 10-speed automatic jointly developed with GM and going into the 2017 F-150 and Raptor. We expect to get our first chance to drive it next year."

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Comments

Wait!! Wait!!

This can't be a diesel truck, because according to the ford fans ford is the innovator and all others follow. The other big two have diesel trucks already. So this truck I think runs on a special fuel called "Magic spring dust"

Yeah ford first with a diesel truck.

Diesel hybrid. The third pic shows a battery disconnect switch as well as a plug in to charge the batteries. Fuel drain sticker is a poor attempt at making people think something else. Prolly over 40mpg in that configuration of diesel hybrid.

Can't wait for the new front end, the current one is UGLY!

Actually the others were following Ford. Ford has been playing with this diesel F-150 for awhile and Fiat-Chrysler knew it & rushed the Ram Diesel Eco to market for we did it 1st bragging rights and had all kinds of problems, carbon monoxide in the cab, extremely poor payload ratings, etc. The bottom line with this is if Ford steals the thunder with great mpg, better HP/TQ numbers, less weight, and more capability, checkmate. Fred Diaz from Ram went to Nissan and copied Ford's F-150 truck design and flopped big time, 896 sales last month, less than the same time last year, smh. Ford will show these boys how its really done.

Chris is right. It's mainly Ram that is following Ford.

Ram saw what Ford was doing and rushed the EcoDiesel to market to beat Ford for bragging rights, but they really should have come out with something better than the EcoDiesel.

Then Fred Diaz, Ram CEO, tried to copy the F-150 and failed for Nissan.

Fiat-Ram has some real catching up to do like steps in the bumpers, or tail gate, high strength roof, and more torque out of the 3.6 V6, and better mpg out of the Hemi (EPA will require it very soon) and a better diesel than the current 3.0 now in use.

Nissan - forget about them, they're done.

We better start seeing many changes or Ram is going to fall further behind.

Re: who are the other big 2

Ram - rushed it and needs something better. than the Eco

GM - its diesel is in the midsize, a different category.

Nissan - that's a HD 3/4 ton truck according to the GVWR, a diesel is nothing special here

This is already getting ignorant.
Guess what ford is third with a diesel light duty truck deal with it or get some therapy.

Will the bed hold a soup can and still get 30 MPGs? The ego boost sure can't.

Looks like a pure diesel to me. The 3rd picture says fuel drain.

Finally Ford admits they need to compete with a half ton diesel as the thirst busting ecobust falls short when pushed in side by side fuel economy comparisons.

Finally Ford admits they need to compete with a half ton diesel as the thirst busting ecobust falls short when pushed in side by side fuel economy comparisons.
Posted by: Ken | Jul 2, 2016 1:11:52 PM

Ford never burned the bridge for diesel engines (as GM has done with aluminum). They determined that Ecoboost was the better route to pursue first. Plenty of F150s don't tow on a regular basis, so they get close to diesel MPG, better driving characteristics, less maintenance, in a package that costs less than $1000.

Ford never said diesel was unnecessary, they said EcoBoost would meet the needs of a large majority of owners. If you check the sales figures you'll see they were right.

Also, if Ford offers a diesel it isn't going to sell nearly as well as the EcoBoost options and it is going to cost $3-4k like every other diesel out there.

knock - knock !
Hey! Did everybody forget about the Colorado-Canyon with the 2.8 Diesel?

did you see the towing and MPG numbers on it?
impressive!
TFL tested the Canyon Diesel against the F-150 with the 5.0 V8 and NOT ONLY DID IT "OUT-TOW" IT,,,,,, IT GOT MUCH-MUCH BETTER GAS MILEAGE!

"Ford never burned the bridge for diesel engines"
Posted by: Scott | Jul 2, 2016 1:29:02 PM

That's funny because they tend to burn everything else!

http://www.bnn.ca/News/2016/3/31/Ford-issues-three-recalls-including-one-that-led-to-two-fires.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czyaZmYz9FQ

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/31/ford-explorer-lincoln-mkc-fire-hazard-recall/

So stupid.
3.0 ecoboost {bore out the 2.7's 83mm bore to 87.5mm}
350hp, 400ft-lbs on 85AKI fuel
versus 250hp 450ft-lbs diesel.

Yep, Ford's extensive experience from JLR ownership has come in handy with aluminum technology & now this diesel block...

Can't wait to see official performance figures in a lighter F150 platform with a 10-speed!!...whoa, get ready RAM ecodiesel for some whipping...hahahaha

I am hoping ford can jump right of the gate with this diesel option, i.e. having enough engines not to limit trim selection. The f150 with diesel will be a hot item. About time they join the part.
Now where the hell is the 4.5 dmax!
http://www.duramaxhub.com/45-duramax.html

Why do we need to meet CAFE requirements? Somebody please remind me.

@papa jim - If we had no standards then the manufacturers would have little incentive to change. Oil is a finite resource and the new larger discoveries are harder to get and more expensive--below a certain price it does not pay to explore and produce. The price of oil will go up and stabilize at a certain price that is higher enough to give incentives for further exploration and production.

Would everyone quit pissing and moaning about who was first to market! The competition of having more small diesel choices will give much better improvements in the future. This site reminds me more of Beavis and Butthead going at it more and more each day.
Posted by: Millhouse | Jul 2, 2016 9:46:31 PM


Would everyone get their facts straight???? The posts on this site should be deleted or edited.

It was GM who offered the diesel first in a halfton. GM offered 6.2ltr diesels in their half tons in the 80s and the 6.5ltr turbo diesel in the 90s. These are the facts you can't deny!

Let it be written. Ford loses and GM wins again.

GM copied Ram. The Dodge pickup was first in the 70's with the Perkins diesel.

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/automotive-histories/automotive-history-the-case-of-the-very-rare-1978-dodge-diesel-pickup-and-the-non-existent-diesel-van/

Wrong. Dodge copied Chevy. GM was first in the 70s.

Chevrolet C/K

"The addition of the first diesel engine of the three American automakers in a light duty pickup the 125 hp 350 cu in (5.7 L) Oldsmobile diesel V-8 began in 1978."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_C/K#Chassis_and_powertrain

HaHaHa Chevy copied Ram.

https://youtu.be/9ww8-wNcrTQ

I remember when this site was talking about rumors of a baby Power Stroke 4.5L V6 diesel for the F150. (6.0 with 2 cylinders chopped off).

It has already started in Paris, banning older vehicles from driving in the city.

The purpose of these standards was to do what the auto companies wouldn’t do. For 25 years, the standards were essentially unchanged — from 1989 to 2007," Becker said. "And it was only when the standards were increased that the automakers started making more fuel efficient vehicles."

Papa Jim- Auto makers do nothing until forced

@Jake

think about re reading your comment before clicking "post" Just a suggestion.

Since diesels have higher resale value, they can offer this model with the similar leasing rates as EcoBoost or V8 models. Financing will be higher, though.

This model will top the Ram 1500 EcoDiesel in mpg. The F-150 is lighter and the 10 speed auto can go deep into overdrive. In the Range Rover tune, this V6 is more powerful and torquey than the EcoDiesel.

If they offer reasonable payload and towing in the 10.000 lb range, this will be the perfect truck. The RAM 1500 EcoDiesel is good too, but with some limitations in payload and it's slightly underpowered.

When will Ford bring out an extended cab with front hing doors?

Never. 170 degree doors are handy for loading and unloading cargo. You buy a crewcab if you want 90 degree front hinge doors for people.

Actually the others were following Ford. Ford has been playing with this diesel F-150 for awhile and Fiat-Chrysler knew it & rushed the Ram Diesel Eco to market for we did it 1st bragging rights and had all kinds of problems, carbon monoxide in the cab, extremely poor payload ratings, etc. The bottom line with this is if Ford steals the thunder with great mpg, better HP/TQ numbers, less weight, and more capability, checkmate. Fred Diaz from Ram went to Nissan and copied Ford's F-150 truck design and flopped big time, 896 sales last month, less than the same time last year, smh. Ford will show these boys how its really done.


Posted by: Chris | Jul 2, 2016 11:37:33 AM

Chris
Do you actually believe the junk you are posting. If you do then there is no hope left for you. I feel sorry for you son.

It's all true. Tell me where I am wrong.

You didn't post any source. FCA had ecodiesel ready many years before it appeared in the RAM with 8 speed , running in the Grand Cherokee and other cars in the Europe.
Ford is just testing their new diesel with new 10 speed. They are catching up. Only 3 years behind FCA.

I can't wait, how Ford PR department will out communicate this with potential ecoboost customers . There is no eco in the ecoboost, just power, some I enjoy in my RAM with HEMI when ford was running anemic 5.4


"Ford has been playing with this diesel..."
Posted by: Chris | Jul 2, 2016 11:37:33 AM

Chris is right some of the top guys at Ford have been playing with diesel engines, I have a secret Ford video of them working on it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuoETI4QmCE

The Grand Cherokee diesel was not years ahead, it was a 2014, same as the Ram.

Ford had a diesel that was coming in 2010. Press release:
http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/01/13/detroit-auto-show-ford-f-150-gets-aggressive-and-tougher-with-video/

Fiat-Ram caught wind of this and bought half of VM Mori. Then Fiat-Ram rushed to market the a diesel that was originally a GM engine.

Of course they (Fiat-Chrysler) are going to stay as quiet about this as they can and take credit for this.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1088013_fiat-buys-remaining-half-of-diesel-supplier-vm-motori-from-gm


The VM Motori A630 had been around since 2011, just not in the US. The Ford/PAG Lion V6 diesel had been around since 2004, which started as a 2.7.

FIAT is a leader in modern diesel technology . They could use any they had on the shelf ,even from Iveco models if they wanted.
Their JTD started common rail diesel revolution in the Europe decades ago, when ford was on the tail in diesels and still is. I remember those exciting times, when power and torque skyrocketed and diesel consumption went down. Ford and some other manufacturers were not part of that race between Italians, French and Germans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTD_engine#3.0_V6_Multijet_II

Honestly, GM and Ford seriously neglected the costumer promising diesels in half-ton trucks for decades. Kudos for FCA for finally delivering the EcoDiesel, and force GM and now Ford to offer a diesel option.

Ye there was a recall, so what?
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/05/cabin-exhaust-fumes-prompt-ram-recall-of-2014-2015-1500-ecodiesel.html

Oh the Ram haters come out. I've owned all big three brands and a Toyota. I currently have a 2015 Ram I bought Ram because of these experiences:

Toyota- Don't like the redesign. Personal taste.
GM- my 2010 GMC had paint chipping and AFM issues at 40k. the cosmetic issues alone took them off my list as I take care of my trucks and am seeing it on others
Ford- My EB ran great when I didn't have problems, the front hood edge on mine kept bubbling and paint fell off, (aluminum hood) not ready to trust a whole truck to it. Plus, I got a Ram Crew Cab for the Price of the suicide door supercab. I get ford X plan and Chrysler Friends and Family so It was not dealer pricing games.

so i got a Ram. I looked at the Diesel option decided against it due to my driving habits. I've had no quality issues and the dealer has been good!

and seriously lay off the fiat NAME CALLING crap. its childish and pointless.

I am currently having this problem...a foul odor in the cab of the truck. Makes you ill!! I have to operate the heater/ac on recirculation to avoid the smell. What is up??
Posted by: CJ | Nov 18, 2015 3:38:22 PM

I have a Ram Eco desiel with cab smell dealer thinks I
Making it up .if I drive it A couple hours I get bad head and sick
Got 6000 miles on it I can't drive because of smell what should I do
Posted by: Ron Thielen | Feb 17, 2016 5:19:19 PM

Like I said rushed to market. smh.

@Greg
What problem are you talking about regards to RAM in the article, where Ford is planning to bring something RAM customers enjoy for years ?
You are delusional.

Why do some of y'all keep saying an F150 diesel will get better MPG than a Ram 1500 diesel?

Do you guys have some magic mirror, where you already know the MPG ratings of both trucks in 2018?

Comparing a not even released truck to a vehicle that's been out and will also change is a fools game.

Crabjoe, there are 3 logical reasons to assume it will be at least 1mpg better.

1. Lighter weight with aluminum.
2. 10 speed over an 8 speed.
3. The advantage of knowing Ram EcoDiesel's fuel economy numbers during R&D.

Crabjoe, there are 3 logical reasons to assume it will be at least 1mpg better.

1. more time in the shop getting repaired and off the road
2. brake fluid leaking from the master cylinder, so less stops
3. more likely to catch fire, therefore fuel economy won't be an issue.

Utter junk!

@ Alex
Four logical reason
Ford wants to be class leading in pickup mpg.
But really doubt that will happen. Going to need to put a tall rear gear in, maybe 2.86 or something crazy like that to make it to 32 mpg probably. Hope some real info comes out soon

Fred Diaz from Ram went to Nissan and copied Ford's F-150 truck design and flopped big time, 896 sales last month, less than the same time last year, smh. Ford will show these boys how its really done.
Posted by: Chris | Jul 2, 2016 11:37:33 AM

Maybe Nissan has a "frame shortage" right now.

The Nissan Titan is too heavy and too slow. It is like a '91 Dodge in Ford clothing that fails to impress altogether. Throw in that its a Nissan and the low towing weight for the segment, and its a nonstarter.

Engine is the Lion V6 designed by Peugeot and developed by Ford/ Peugeot.
Peugeot has a reputation for building efficient diesels. A Peugeot, Diesel, engined Unlimited prototype nearly won Lemans outright beaten by an Audi Diesel.



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