Spied: 2019 Light-Duty Jeep Pickup

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It seems like some of our spy shooters are getting more creative with drone cameras, so manufacturers beware. From the looks of these photos of the new Jeep pickup, there's plenty going on in the bed and rear-cab areas. In fact, the prototype short bed on the extended Wrangler platform looks much like a Ram 1500 short-bed box with some kind of slide-out floor feature.

We think this might be an intentional camouflage setup given that Mike Manley, head of Jeep and Ram, has said repeatedly that a Jeep pickup will have to be very different from Ram offerings. However, that would be a difficult position to hold if you’re going to share the piece that makes both vehicles a pickup.

Here's what our colleagues in the field had to say:

"After years of anguished deliberation, Jeep is now moving forward with a Wrangler-based pickup truck, and we've finally spied Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' engineers testing just that.

"Jeep hasn't a pickup since the Comanche ended its run in 1992. Since then, Chrysler and FCA have floated the idea of a Wrangler pickup with the Gladiator concept in 2005 and the J-12 Concept at the 2012 Moab Easter Jeep Safari.

"The prototype in our photos uses the four-door Unlimited body style with a fairly sizable pickup bed. That said, looking at the placement of the rear wheels in the wheel well, we're pretty sure this probably isn’t the final bed design.

"We can also see some seriously aggressively treaded off-road-ready tires on this test car.

"Code named 'JL,' the regular 2018 Wrangler will start production in the fourth quarter of 2017. The Wrangler pickup, code named 'JT,' will go into production in the third or fourth quarter of 2018, making the pickup a 2019 model-year vehicle. Both will be built at the Toledo, Ohio, plant.

"The entire Wrangler lineup will be riding on a new chassis and feature more weight-saving materials — it's been reported there will be only limited use of aluminum.

"The new Wrangler will be offered with a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline four-cylinder, a 3.6-liter gas V-6 and a yet-unnamed turbo-diesel. We've also heard rumors of a plug-in hybrid variant."

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Comments

cool

I hope they do offer a tdi as an option.It's LONG over due.

Another midsize! C'mon Ford, give us a small Ranger!

Looks like they need to either make the wheelbase longer or move the wheel wheels in the bed towards the front a few inches. They(who ever they are) keep moving the date back for the truck. I will not buy one unless it is a extended cab with a 6 foot bed....

Yet another piece of FCA garbage.

FCA seemed to have taken a lot of time to decide the obvious.

Another mid size pickup.

Will this improve FCA's CAFE position?

It seems the manufacturers are realizing that not all need full size capability. Especially when that capability is never used and mid size capability is equal to what a full size 1/2 ton had only a decade or so ago.

It's nice to have a full size pickup as a car, maybe better for some to have a mid size pickup as a car instead.

Wow! That's fantastically ugly per Jeep tradition!

As usual the key word here is "prototype". Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep has been very good about teasing us every year with prototypes that will never see the light of day.

2019 ? I may be dead by then !

I personally prefer the original 2-door Jeep versions; never liked the 4-door versions & now this truck - they remind me of the cheap Mahindra trucks (India) which are junk jeep wanna-be's...

ANOTHER midsize. When is someone going to offer a compact truck?

@Beebe
They have died out Globally. Only Mexico and Brazil offer tiny car based ones.

Saw it coming. I predict moderate to excellent sales for this vehicle.

@Beebe, Rob

I like the midsize pickups, but they should build a compact pickup off a unibody car platform for the U.S market. I'm sure those would be much cheaper and much more fuel efficient since they don't have to (read: SHOULDN'T) be all dolled up and powerful, just straight-up mini workhorses.

Folks have asked about the Ranger coming back. I thought I read fairly recently it official is coming to USA. Haven't found link on it yet. But..
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/08/26/ford-ranger-pickup-truck-us/32387379/
and..
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/09/ford-uaw-ranger/75473664/


Saw it coming. I predict moderate to excellent sales for this vehicle.
Posted by: Warazawanga | Jul 20, 2016 6:42:28 PM

I'm pretty sure this truck will put FCA ahead of Ford in over all truck sales. Welcome to 3rd place Ford!

I'm pretty sure this truck will put FCA ahead of Ford in over all truck sales. Welcome to 3rd place Ford!


Posted by: johnny doe | Jul 20, 2016 7:58:00 PM

How? Ford is about ready to overtake GM with all their brands in total sales and not to far behind in truck sales if you combine all 4 trucks GM sells. It looks like they will overtake GM before Ford. But it also depends on whether or not fiat has been fudging numbers. Likely they have and will be in trouble again. Your predictions are on the same line of credibility as big al.

I've basically given up on a compact truck. What I really want is a side by side that is a little bigger and more reliable than the ones they have now. It won't be long now. Honda is pretty close with their Pioneer 1000-5. But I'd like something that has an enclosed cab with AC and Heat. Something I could drive the 15 miles back and forth from my house to my farm fields comfortably every single day and then drive out in the field without getting stuck. The pioneer 1000-5 deluxe is $17,000. I think somebody could make what I want and sell it for about $25,000 new.

This diesel is going to be perfect match with Multijet II for Jeep.
Wet Ford's dreams.

http://www.allpar.com/news/2016/05/fcas-hot-new-diesel-31813

Another Pro-Ford article

Good God that thing is ugly even hiding behind trash bags!

It's still better looking than any Fseries. Even with those trash bags.

It's still better looking than any Fseries. Even with those trash bags.


Posted by: RAM | Jul 20, 2016 10:44:19 PM

Much agreed!!!

TOM The small truck market is on fire and jeeps sales them self have been on fire. Ford has nothing and giving away to fleets to make sales names look good. That can't last forever.

Need bigger tires or a new cab design to help that poor break-over angle!

With the lack of any room up front I am wondering if a proper cooling package will be available, you know trucks need cooling to haul and pull and I see little room up front!

Check out the departure angle. Not so good.

@Oxi
I don't see any problem with that. Diesels are so efficient, I had an factory installed auxiliary heater for automatic air conditioning 17 years ago in the Europe, because diesel didn't heat up enough in the winter time to keep cabine at the set temperature. Small gasoline with Multiair and 9 speed would work as well. This could be your next truck. Eh ?

This pickup will look great lifted with proper offroad tires. Ford's Ranger will look like a pansy midsize in comparison. The Tacoma is already a dollar store special with a premium price tag. The ZR2 is non-existant and the standard Colorado is a joke with that front air dam. Jeep is set to take this market over.

All the people missing that Colorado based Hummer have something to be excited about. Its just another option a few Wrangler buyers might choose if they want to keep their stuff dry, and for those of the Hummer mindset that they need larger tires and an uncommon truck than anyone else. Very niche.

TOM The small truck market is on fire and jeeps sales them self have been on fire. Ford has nothing and giving away to fleets to make sales names look good. That can't last forever.


Posted by: johnny doe | Jul 20, 2016 10:51:11 PM

Actually it is not on fire. Full sized trucks are doing very well. SUVS are doing well. Small trucks are doing ok. you have to remember last year when Ford was cutting fleet sales the GM people like yourself were bragging it up. once the tides changed you are putting it down. You have to also keep in mind GM has been offering 15-20% off MSRP almost all year. Between GM'S attempt at bashing the F150 in commercials and their 7 month old fire sale it has not helped GM at all. GM is very worried right now because everyone else is doing better than them. Like Tom mentioned, we will see if fiat is falsifying their sales numbers. it appears it could be more fiat smoke aND mirrors to try and make them feel good...

In manufacturing, the key to success is factory loading. It's commonly referred to as the cost-volume-profit curve. Essentially, you want to load your factories to capacity to cover fixed and variable costs. Fleet sales help load the factory, even if the margins are slim, it helps cover fixed cost. Therefore your non fleet sales enjoy a higher contribution margin. This is just good business management. You need to utilize 100% of capacity otherwise your leaving money on the table. Fleet sales are NOT a bad thing for the overall fiscal health of Ford. Considering the retooling for the Alum, I'd do the same thing to cover the fixed costs. Get it?

In manufacturing, the key to success is factory loading. It's commonly referred to as the cost-volume-profit curve. Essentially, you want to load your factories to capacity to cover fixed and variable costs. Fleet sales help load the factory, even if the margins are slim, it helps cover fixed cost. Therefore your non fleet sales enjoy a higher contribution margin. This is just good business management. You need to utilize 100% of capacity otherwise your leaving money on the table. Fleet sales are NOT a bad thing for the overall fiscal health of Ford. Considering the retooling for the Alum, I'd do the same thing to cover the fixed costs. Get it?


Posted by: Grnzel1 | Jul 21, 2016 6:15:52 AM

johnny welfare doe won't get it. it is just one of his many excusses. What GM is offering on the table now is more money off than I was bidded past year for our fleet account. and we get one of if not the highest discounts in fleet sales. GM was slightly cheaper than Ford. even now prices that is advertised is pretty close to fleet prices. But in the end who really cares who buys what. But what better advertising when you drive past a construction site and see primarily one brand of truck.

I think what you see in the bed are just rubber mats, often used for ballast. Hopefully picing will track what GM did with the H3T- about the same (little less actually) rather than a premium.
As to a compact truck, I think something based on the Brazilian Toro, which looks to be a Cherokee with a bed/LWB is still in the works as a RAM, but probably not until AFTER this rolls out. A lot of media gushed over the little Renegade based truck from this spring, so that should encourage the marketeers at FCA.

I think what you see in the bed are just rubber mats, often used for ballast. Hopefully picing will track what GM did with the H3T- about the same (little less actually) rather than a premium.
As to a compact truck, I think something based on the Brazilian Toro, which looks to be a Cherokee with a bed/LWB is still in the works as a RAM, but probably not until AFTER this rolls out. A lot of media gushed over the little Renegade based truck from this spring, so that should encourage the marketeers at FCA.

Most Colorado sales are fleet sales.

says who?

I haven't seen very many fleet spec Colorados, mostly crew cabs with 4 wheel drive. I have seen many full size Chevy and Fords fleet spec especially Ortho, True Green, and auto parts delivery. I think fan boys are more concerned about fleet sales more than the average truck buyer. This site use to be a much better site but it has deteriorated to a fan boy and a site to advertise for the manufacturers.

Jeff,
Most true. Colorados are not as much fleet as say the F-150.

This Jeep looks nice, but will not be good off roading as the Wrangler, even with a solid front alxe. It will be quite rough to drive.

With the newer midsizers driving better to drive than a ful size this iwll only be really good on a farm, or like a Ford Ruptur a facade to look pretty.

@nissansrgreat
Cool story. Do you have a source for this or is it just your prediction? What is your source? Doesn't seem terribly farfetched. Would love to see a midsize with seating for six. And a price significantly less than a half ton.

One thing i like about ford making so much money is that they have a lot of money for r and d. Will be very interesting to see what new products they have over the next 5 years.

BeBee,
Ford? Most car companies have a lot of money to spend on R&D.

Ford is nothing special.

@ wildwilly
Sure other car companies are making money, but you aren't going to see toyota, honda, nissan, etc. spend boatloads of money on R&D for a new pickup because no matter how good it is customers are brand loyal and won't buy it at a high rate. It took Nissan forever to give us a new titan and it was 10 years too late. What I really meant was ford is making a lot of money in comparison to General Motors and FCA. Ford likely has a lot more money to spend on R&D on trucks than the other two major truck makers and thus Ford is more likely to give us some exciting new stuff in the coming years. GM may not be FAR behind but they are definitely going to be behind. RAM is going to have to be really creative if they want to stay competitive.

Beebe,
Why does Nissan need to spend money on a pickup? It already has them overseas. Nice one at that. Look at the interiors, with a coil sprung suspension.

The one in this link looks light years in front of the Frontier. So, why does Nissan need to invest?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/nissan/navara-np300

Even the Tacoma could of been a waste for Toyota. The Hilux was designed and is the same size.

This leads me to believe Toyota must have more money than Ford for pickup development.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/toyota/hilux/first-drives/2016-toyota-hilux-invincible-double-cab-review

I don't trust these photos. They LOOK like a JKU body planted on a RAM chassis and little more. The wheelbase is too wide, the bed itself is clearly a base RAM assembly and the overall concept just comes across as a test mule for some specific portion of the concept and not the concept itself.

Owning a JKU myself, this thing just looks all wrong.

Its a propaganda shot. FCA probably slapped that together in 20 min cause they knew it would be "caught on camera"...

Better watch out. they might get a shot of your slapped together truck that wont be anything like what they are going to have.

If you want a good small pickup. Tacoma and Colorado are your go to trucks. the diesel GM's are available in upstate ny at many different dealers. I went to look at a silver Colorado in mid trim level with a diesel a month ago and I loved it. I have a 16 Silverado but if that little bastard was available I would have grabbed it up. Bigger rear seat than I expected. and I loved my old gmc s15 with 4.3. this was very reminiscent of that truck just much better overall. I would highly recommend going with the diesel GM's they will hold a high resale once paid off. the best part is the mid trim levels I have viewed. very nice rugged interior easy to keep clean and very comfortable for an under 6 foot tall frame.

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Quad cab is DOA for me. Need a smaller truck with an extended cab and real bed. I hope Jeep offers that option. Diesel is a plus, but I'd look at the Colorado if this Jeep only comes with four doors.

Guys guys guys....

This is NOT the production body. It's a mule, specifically cobbled together for testing.

The bed is a chopped up Ram bed. The body is a chopped up JK body. This is for TESTING purposes only.

The actual JT when it goes on sale will not look like this. I thought everybody knew that already?

This is not good for Fiat Chrysler.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fiat-chrysler-review-shows-u-135821854.html
Fiat Chrysler review shows U.S. sales figures were inflated -report

@ Beebe
"Would love to see a midsize with seating for six. And a price significantly less than a half ton."

This is my issue too. Hoping they can accommodate this with the "dial" shifters. If I can throw a motorcycle or two or camping gear and fit my family of six, serious consideration. 99% of the time, it's 4 or less people in MY vehicle. I will also be looking @ F150 3.5EB and plausibly the diesels next year.



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