Spied: 2019 GM Half-Tons With Steel Beds

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Our spy shooters are getting bolder as they see more Chevrolet and GMC heavily disguised preproduction half-ton pickup truck prototypes cruising around Michigan. Here's what they just sent us:

"This is our latest look at GM's next-generation 1500 pickups. This time, though, we caught them on video, and can confirm they have a steel bed and stop-start technology.

"Until now, the new GM trucks were rumored to follow Ford's lead into aluminum-bodied pickups; this video confirms that a magnet will stick to the bed — you can clearly hear the magnet attach to the metal and we can confirm that there was magnetization — of the new Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra 1500, suggesting a traditional steel bed.

"Reports still suggest an aluminum-intensive full-size pickup for GM, but the company now may be using lightweight materials in other places on the truck to reduce mass and improve fuel economy.

"The prototype pictured here also used a stop-start system, which also can be heard in the video, possibly a development of the mild-hybrid eAssist system that debuted in 2016 on a limited number of GMC Sierra 1500s. Other possibilities for the new trucks may be air suspension on some models and a smaller-displacement turbo engine. The new GM trucks should go on sale late in 2018."

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Hey, gotta maintain that Number 1 J.D. Power ranking!!!

GM can't innovate, so they imitate. Give GM 5 more yrs.....then 5 more.

Gee Unk.

If you are going to reduce weight from pickups, take it off the front axle.

You mean the same steel beds that bent from hauling sand?

GM is smart enough to stretch the already paper thin high strength steel even thinner to save weight. They will rust the rear fender wells in 3 yrs instead of 4. Thus forcing people to buy every 3 yrs and help sagging sales. Great strategy again by the General! Just one more example of why GMSRGREAT!

Oh yeah, we are first in class with start stop in our pick up trucks. And first with a tailgate step too! Take that Ford fan gurls!!

It will be interesting to see how much weight savings they gain and how they get there. I hope they do not gp thinner but instead use other innovations.
Also, will fun to head to head competition of V6 with turbos.

Thank god, no beer can beds that tear.

nothing new here still looks the same

Wow, Ford fart heads are already exploding. LOL!

Possibly a compost bed, not the outside but the inside. They could go to a smaller boxed frame, just as strong as the one now.

Oh yeah, we are first in class with start stop in our pick up trucks

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jun 23, 2017 5:07:29 PM

You mean after the innovating Ram.lol

Hey gotta maintain that Number 1 J.D. Power ranking!!!

Posted by: papajim | Jun 23, 2017

90 days , wow! Its the other 2,830 days that is most likely to disappoint.
The J.D power 90 day is like a participation trophy, nothing more.

Yep, it looks like it will be another failed rust bucket square design like the current one...:-(

Spy shots of a 2019 half ton diesel too but PUTC will probably provide the news in the traditional weeks to follow.

It is so funny to hear the FORD and FIAT fart heads talk about how their respective brands are so innovative. Neither brand offers a mid size truck. Both brands are a decade behind GM with offering a hybrid truck, yes, one with start / stop technology. Educate yourself before commenting, you're just confirming how dumb you really are.

https://jalopnik.com/191800/being-greenish-silverado-sierra-to-be-gms-first-hybrid-trucks-fall-2007-launc

I said Ford fart heads! LOL @ me!!!

Our V6 turbos will be great!! They won't be twin scroll, they'll be double scroll because GM is an innovator. Our tailgate step will have more steps than Ford fart pants, or maybe it will have less steps. Either way making it better and non girly!! Okay, gtg trim my mullet.

Plastic!!!! won't rust!!!

So the paper thin steel bed will rust and ding more easily. Great.

I live in Ohio and I've never had a problem with rust on my trucks. I generally keep them about 10 years and I'm good about keeping them washed in the winter. I'd rather have Steel then Aluminum can metal any day.

ford has the best beds
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/2015-up-bed-box-strength-386478/

Our V6 turbos will be great!! They won't be twin scroll, they'll be double scroll because GM is an innovator.


Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jun 24, 2017 4:05:50 AM

Just so you know, "you GMSGREAT want to be", neither GM or Ford make their own turbos. So, there you have it.

They already have rust problems, so this is not a smart move...sorry gmsrgreat, you will need to defend them yet again

This is not good.

Paper thin steel beds red rust and dent badly when shopping carts and sand bags hit them.

I'd rather have the aluminum bed with no red rust, and more ding resistance - shopping carts bounce right off them.

Ford also has the original manstep that GM is trying to copy.

Newer Chevy Silverado bed and wheel well rusting at 60k miles:
http://cdn.carcomplaints.com/complaints/images/082e8aa0-8672-1032-b743-4c3114d2dee3.jpg

"Truck bed and wheel well rusting. Began with wheel well paint bubbling then rusting and is continuing inside the bed of truck and underneath. Called GM regarding problem and truck was still under warranty and nothing would be done unless rusted through. Truck is parked in garage during winter weather."

- stephibien, Mapleton, IL, USA

5 year old Chevys turning into a rusty rag. Good luck with the steel.

Wow all rusted out only at 60 miles? We'll I guess another reason why shaky GOVT motors kept those huge square wheel well design;

To allow you room to inspect/check for rust before it's too late...LOL :-)

nothing new here still looks the same

"Truck is parked in garage during winter weather."

- stephibien, Mapleton, IL, USA

5 year old Chevys turning into a rusty rag. Good luck with the steel.


Posted by: Dave | Jun 25, 2017 1:54:04 PM

The answer is right in the description you posted. First, they didn't buy wheel well liners that protect against chips. Second, the absolute BEST way to cause a vehicle to rust is to drive it around in road salt all day, then park it in a nice warm garage so the chemical reactions that create rust can accelerate, not to mention melt all the salty slush stuck to the truck so it can seep ever deeper into any nooks and crannies.

People who think parking in a warm garage in the winter is better for preventing rust are idiots that skipped high school chemistry.

Evidently you haven't looked at the 2014+ GM trucks, otherwise you would noticed that the bottom 8" of the bed and cab is coated with a rhino liner material before being painted.

None of my trucks have wheel well liners and are find. If GM trucks need wheel well liners they should disclose that. I was under the impression he didn't drive the truck in winter months. Anyway GM trucks seem to rust the most. I am pretty sad that GM is not using aluminum on any of the bed.

If GM trucks need wheel well liners they should disclose that. I was under the impression he didn't drive the truck in winter months. Anyway GM trucks seem to rust the most. I am pretty sad that GM is not using aluminum on any of the bed.


Posted by: Tom Lemon | Jun 25, 2017 8:41:25 PM

GM has been putting wheel well liners on the half-tons from the factory since 2014 and it was a standard dealer option before that.

Why would you think he would park the truck for the winter? If you drive a truck through salt all winter and park it in a warm garage that whole time, it WILL rust. Even the frame and stamped steel control arms on the aluminum F150's will start to rust in conditions like that. Tooyota and Ram are the rust leaders.

The GM truck above with all the camo still can't hide how much better looking it is then the either of the beer can F-sisters. Great looking truck GM. The Ford fan girls thinking GM gonna follow Ford, too funny. Remember, GM is the leader, you Ford dummies.

The liners on the new trucks are terrible. They are for noise reduction. They are porous and hold in water and salt. GM needs to do better on rust protection if they are sticking with steel.

Hey gotta maintain that Number 1 J.D. Power ranking!!!

Posted by: papajim | Jun 23, 2017

90 days , wow! Its the other 2,830 days that is most likely to disappoint.
The J.D power 90 day is like a participation trophy, nothing more.


Posted by: FXDX1450 | Jun 23, 2017 10:04:01 PM


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Your'e so right!

Look at the 3 year JD Power dependability study and see how far down Ford and Ram end up.

They sit at the top with GM on the 90 day, then by 3 years old have moved to the bottom of the list.

I can't imagine how good the Ford and Ram perform at 5 or 6 years old.

None of my trucks have wheel well liners and are find. If GM trucks need wheel well liners they should disclose that. I was under the impression he didn't drive the truck in winter months. Anyway GM trucks seem to rust the most. I am pretty sad that GM is not using aluminum on any of the bed.


Posted by: Tom Lemon | Jun 25, 2017 8:41:25 PM

Whether or not the steel is a better option remains to be seen. I find it laughable how so many people have forgotten Ford's first foray into aluminum on the expeditions and how many of them have no paint on the hoods or lift gates and the aluminum is now pitted and corroded from exposure.

GM still wants to be anti-aluminum, but being anti-aluminum hasn't sold the current truck. Have you seen some of the anti-aluminum stunts GM has put in their commercials? I guess it just goes to show what years of frustration will do. I'm also amazed how fast the current trucks look so dated for only being a few years old. And this only looks like a mild update. Not a full redesign.

GM is smart enough to stretch the already paper thin high strength steel even thinner to save weight. They will rust the rear fender wells in 3 yrs instead of 4. Thus forcing people to buy every 3 yrs and help sagging sales. Great strategy again by the General! Just one more example of why GMSRGREAT!
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Jun 23, 2017 5:06:10 PM

That sums it up. Great post.


"GM still wants to be anti-aluminum, but being anti-aluminum hasn't sold the current truck." - Scott

Total GM Sales in 2015: 600,544 Silverados + 224,139 Sierra = 824,683 Steel Trucks

Total Ford Sales in 2015: 780,354

Looks like GM had zero issues selling steel trucks vs the all-new "Military-grade" aluminum F-150 wonder truck. GM's ugly 2016 facelift hurt sales more than anything.


"Have you seen some of the anti-aluminum stunts GM has put in their commercials? I guess it just goes to show what years of frustration will do." - Scott

As opposed to the tacky Mike Rowe videos where they "torture" tested all the other trucks just after they redesigned the F-150 last time. Or the hokey commercials they used to make with a Chevy truck sitting on the back of Ford? What I think is more telling is that Ford spends billions in marketing just to get their trucks sold. I can't watch a single youtube video without a 2 minute Ford truck ad playing. I guess if people don't want to buy your truck on its own merits, you have to spend billions to convince guys that know nothing about trucks that *your* truck is the toughest "military-grade" truck out there.


"I'm also amazed how fast the current trucks look so dated for only being a few years old. And this only looks like a mild update. Not a full redesign." - Scott

The 2014-2015 GM trucks are a timeless design. The square body truck design will always look good no matter what the latest truck design fads are.. and 5,10,20 years from now, a clean 14/15' GM truck will still look good. Just like the 70's and 80's square body trucks from Ford, GM, and Dodge. When they're clean and maintained, they still have a no nonsense, purpose built appeal to them.

They don't need gimmicky led accent lights or ultra-modern body styling to get non-truck guys into the showroom. They don't need a dozen gimmicky tech features in the cab that break after the warranty is up. Just look at the 97 F-150 redesign. They went with the bubbly, round styling and it looked awful 5 years later.

Whether or not the steel is a better option remains to be seen. I find it laughable how so many people have forgotten Ford's first foray into aluminum on the expeditions and how many of them have no paint on the hoods or lift gates and the aluminum is now pitted and corroded from exposure.
Posted by: andrwken | Jun 26, 2017 9:52:43 AM

Yeah I believe they were even sued recently because newer Mustangs had paint bubbling off their aluminum hoods. Ford refused to cover replacement hoods and the old hoods couldn't be repainted. $1000+ dollar fix with no guarantee that the hood wouldn't peel again.

https://i2.wp.com/www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2015-09-22_15-53-44.jpg

But no worries Ford fans, Ford's lawyers protected your favorite company from all those angry Ford owners that tried to sue them.

http://www.stangtv.com/news/ford-beats-lawsuit-alleging-mustang-hood-corrosion-conspiracy/

"The judge dismissed both complaints, as neither man could demonstrate financial loss due to the hood corrosion, DESPITE INTERNAL FORD DATA DEMONSTRATING THAT THE MUSTANG’S ALUMINUM HOOD WAS FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE CORROSION."


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The liners on the new trucks are terrible. They are for noise reduction. They are porous and hold in water and salt. GM needs to do better on rust protection if they are sticking with steel.
Posted by: Old Chevy Guy | Jun 26, 2017 9:40:08 AM

And when you spray them with fluid film, they soak it up and you never have to worry about it again. I've never seen them hold water. Want to see amazing water holding ability, look at the foam used to use in the voids between body panels. Great for soaking up salty water and rotting body panels out real fast.

Tupy will probably make the engine blocks

Tupy S.A. will update and increase its compacted graphite iron capacity at Saltillo, Mexico, in order to increase capacity for CGI cylinder blocks for passenger cars, to fulfill a new order from an unnamed automaker.

http://foundrymag.com/materials/tupy-updating-sintercast-cgi-capacity-mexico

To recap: GMS/Johnny/sierra/papa/Brick/d*ck/dan, so sorry you guys have to defend the twins. That bed bending issue in the Work Truck Challenge, tells the real story on these Govn't Motors steel beds......OUCH!

To recap: GMS/Johnny/sierra/papa/Brick/d*ck/dan, so sorry you guys have to defend the twins. That bed bending issue in the Work Truck Challenge, tells the real story on these Govn't Motors steel beds......OUCH!
Posted by: OCG | Jun 29, 2017 9:14:26 AM

I'd rather have a bed that bends that a bed that rips like a like a pop can.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150forum.com-vbulletin/540x960/80-img_1299_40080cec262935e47a37ca7647c29ce89b905c2d.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f150forum.com-vbulletin/540x960/80-img_1298_c753ffaea0f739620a1448577233ae239928204b.jpg

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https://www.f150forum.com/f2/aluminum-failure-320338/

https://www.f150forum.com/attachments/f118/421235d1458174899t-crack-bed-truck-image.jpeg

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Hahaha Built "Ford Tough"?

So no modern material weight savings in the body in the Next GMC/Chevy. Will there be modern twin turbo DI VTEC DOHC 24V V6? Dare I even if ask more than 1 of such engines in the lineup? Will there be a small diesel? Is the 5.3 gonna stay anemic? Will there be a coil spring or some kind of innovation on the rear suspension? Will the almost never seen in a 1500 6.2V8 get DOHC? Will the DEF tank finally be hidden? Good work on the LED and cameras everywhere catchup GM... So, so, so far behind.



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