2017 Los Angeles Auto Show Preview

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You knew it was coming. Once we made it through the 2017 State Fair of Texas in October and the 2017 Special Equipment Market Association Show in early November, you knew auto show season was just around the corner.

First up in the seemingly never-ending parade of auto shows is the 2017 Los Angeles Auto Show. It doesn't look like this year's show will offer much in the way of big pickup truck debuts; those are more likely to happen in Detroit at the 2018 North American International Auto Show in January. But there will be some interesting trucks on display in L.A. that we'll take a close look at.

We expect to see an interesting snow monster in the form of a GMC Sierra 2500 with tank tracks, as well as a few Ram 1500 special editions we haven't seen before. The biggest news of the show, the debut of the new Jeep Wrangler, will likely have strong visual and mechanical implications for the all-new Jeep pickup we expect to see in late 2018. You can bet we'll be checking out the details of the Wrangler and poking underneath it.

We'll have more stories and videos from the show to give you an up-close show-floor point of view. More to come later next week.

The L.A. Auto Show will run Dec. 1-10 at the L.A. Convention Center, 1201 S. Figueroa St. Hours are 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. Dec. 1-2 and Dec. 7-9, 9 a.m. to 9 pm. Dec. 3-6 and 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Dec. 10. Tickets are $15 for adults age 13-64, $10 for seniors 65 and older, $5 for kids age 6-12 and kids younger than 6 get in free with a paying adult. For more info, go to www.laautoshow.com, call 310-444-1850 or email help@laautoshow.com.

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Comments

2500 Sierra Halftrack? Military grade! We could have used that at S.Padre Island a while back. The soft, deep sand eats 4X4's alive.

“2500 Sierra Halftrack? Military grade!”
Posted by: Stevadore

Not a half track, but an all track.

http://www.tfltruck.com/2017/11/2018-gmc-sierra-hd-mountain-2500-tank-tracks-snow/

Ford's new mini-van is hot!

That thing could handle 1000 pounds of bullet proof siding and become suburban America's next cool ride. You can never have enough armor plate.

Can the liberal media stop obsessing with the Colorado please!

How about we stop obsessing with things simply too big to be useful to anybody! Really, Look at that 6-door SUV, that thing's gotta be class 5 at a minimum. We can't drive one of those without a CDL or higher. Similar is true for most of the trucks shown. They're worthless!

@roadwhale

I mistakenly thought it was a new minivan from Ford. That would be MY idea of a grocery getter!

I will buy any truck if the price is right.

@Road Whale--Papa Jim would like it better if it were a Silverado. Papa hates Fords. Papa would rather have an S Class Mercedes as a grocery getter.

@oxi--You need to obsess less about the Colorado yourself. This is just an auto show not an endorsement.

@oxi--You need to obsess less about the Colorado yourself. This is just an auto show not an endorsement.

@oxi

Jeff, Vulpine, Trucker and Roadwhale can't seem to remember which pseudonym they're supposed to be using today, and Jeff's really got his shorts in a knot.

He'll be ok in a day or two but don't expect any slack from Jeff today.

@papa jim--So do you like Fords now? You would not be saying that about a similar Silverado. I don't care for it myself but not because it is a Ford. You do seem to like the S Class Mercedes best so you should get one even if it is preowned. A preowned Mercedes is less expensive than a new one and comes with a warranty. It would make a nice grocery getter for you.

Oh those GM supporters..., just can’t be happy with what GM offers..., they have to bring in Ford into their conversation..., thinking that by putting Ford down, it will elevate their brand.
Pissssst..., GM supporters..., it’s works against you.

@thelawnranger,
Well spoken. One has a weak arguement attacks others instead of speaking to their own strengths.

@ Jeff S,

Auto show yes, this liberal website is promoting the Colorado unfairly, must be getting $$$ from some company, hmmm...

Someone seems to have forgotten that Vulpine and Road Whale are one person while Jeff is someone else entirely. Trucker is new to me but seems to have acknowledged a Jeff S connection, but I won't bet on it without confirmation.

Roadwhale, the self-appointed arbiter of what is "too big" and what is considered useful or useless. Speaking of useless, is that your ancient Ranger in your link? I'll bet everything looks big to you from the driver's seat.

@pickuptrucks

I understand there won’t be much pickup news at the LA show this week. However please ask the folks at Toyota when we will be seeing a redesigned Tundra. It’s way behind it’s competition with hp, torque and fuel economy. It hasn’t been significantly changed since it debuted as a 2007 model! 11 model years old with the same 5.7 and 6sp auto, unreal!

@oxi--If you feel that strongly you need to write to the auto shows and say that they are unfairly discriminating against Toyota. My experience is that the manufacturers and local dealers pay for the display space and for the marketing. If Toyota pays more than GM and Ford then they will get the best display space and the most promotion. Is this necessarily fair? Probably not but then the same model is used in retailing especially in groceries where the companies that pay the most get the best shelf space. You can blame the automakers in that those that pay the most get the best display and the best coverage. In the Cincinnati Auto Expo this year GM, Ford, and Toyota got the best floor space and the best media coverage while Fiat and Mazda got a lesser space buried in the corner of the convention center and little publicity. Chevy and Toyota were offering demos of their products. Guess which companies paid the most to be at that expo?

"Roadwhale, the self-appointed arbiter of what is "too big" and what is considered useful or useless. Speaking of useless, is that your ancient Ranger in your link? I'll bet everything looks big to you from the driver's seat." ---- Posted by: BD

Yes, that is my Ranger, taken as I was driving it home from Tennessee--800 miles and its first-ever long highway run. Despite being garaged for eleven years, it made the trip trouble-free, averaging just over 25mpg (after clutch rebuild in TN due to dry-rotted hydraulic boots and hoses, tires, shocks and a nose-to-tail safety inspection.) Even so, that Ranger is bigger than my original Mitsubishi Sport pickup.

I've only once needed a bigger pickup and even then for only about three years. That was my '90 F-150 XLT Lariat with an 8' bed. The ONLY "real work" it ever did was for one weekend a year carrying 25 'event' tables for a charity event which didn't even come close to loading the suspension.

I simply don't need a truck 20 to 25 feet long, weighing in at 5500#. I don't like the large size and never have, having owned and driven some veritable barges from the '60s and '70s that honestly made me worry about navigating narrow roads with traffic. I was much more comfortable with what were called "mid-sized" cars like the Cutlass and later a mid-'80s Toronado. And to me, a true "compact truck" is ideal since it's a true utility size and not built for heavy-duty use. It's fun and sporty by comparison.

Does everything look big to me in that truck? No. Every full sized and current-generation mid-sized truck does, however. I sit at about the same height as my wife's Renegade, which is a surprisingly good drive; we just completed a trip to Florida and back in it and never once felt crowded in traffic while handling road construction sites in Florida with aplomb. I think a Jeep Comanche pickup based on the Renegade (Moab Easter Safari about two years ago) is an almost ideal platform for a true light-duty truck. While I don't expect to see one of those, the Hyundai Santa Cruz could open up an all-new pickup truck market.

Or you could opt for an F450 Crew cab with a topper and treat it like a very heavy duty mini van.

Adding some armor plate is optional and the 6.7 Powerstroke is probably standard.

No sense driving around in a vehicle that doesn't have surplus capacity available in a pinch. The larger fuel tank would be cool too.

"Or you could opt for an F450 Crew cab with a topper and treat it like a very heavy duty mini van. Adding some armor plate is optional and the 6.7 Powerstroke is probably standard. No sense driving around in a vehicle that doesn't have surplus capacity available in a pinch. The larger fuel tank would be cool too."
---- Posted by: papajim

You may do that all you wish to, PJ; meanwhile I will be shaking my head in pity every time I see that humongous rig, knowing that a fool has parted with his hard-earned money.

You may do that all you wish to, PJ

@Roadwhale

Wow, you mean it's ok?

@RoadWhale--I prefer a smaller truck as well. I wouldn't be bothered by what others think. At one time I could have used a bigger truck when I was living on the family farm and I had one with my grand dad's 63 IH which would not be big enough for some on this website. What gets me is that some on this site want trucks to get bigger and they are driving half ton trucks. If they really want a bigger truck they could go up in size to a 3/4 or 1 ton truck. Easier to get a bigger truck than a smaller truck, at least the bigger trucks are available. I would be interested in the Santa Cruz myself but I am not going to get my hopes up until I actually see one on the market. I like my S-10 and I have gotten use to the crew cab Isuzu. I am glad at least there are more choices available in midsize trucks. I don't want to deny others their choices in trucks and I don't want to be denied my own choices. In other words there are some on this site that do want to tell others what to buy and how to think but they are completely closed to other points of view. That is their prerogative but if you want someone to listen and respect your viewpoint you need to respect theirs.

Silly people.

GMCs are "professional" grade.

Fords are "Military" grade.

Both are made up Marketing "grades" and the track attachments (while very cool) are nothing new.

Sounds like more articles on custom stuff other than for the Fiat Wrangler.

some on this site want trucks to get bigger and they are driving half ton trucks.

@Jeff S

As for me, I'm content with the size of current half tons.

Don't misunderstand me. I'm placing my trust in the market, and American consumers are letting Detroit know that larger and more comfortable pickups and SUVs are the rage.

The rest of the world will catch on. Blue Jeans, pickups and iPhones.

want someone to listen and respect your viewpoint you need to respect theirs.

Posted by: Jeff S | Nov 26, 2017 3:47:53 PM

You have done a lot of disrespecting yourself, Jeff. I give respect to those who earn it, not those who say I need to respect.

"@Roadwhale... Wow, you mean it's ok?"
----Posted by: papajim

It's not like I can stop you, PJ, but I can feel sorry for you.

@papa jim--That is your choice. If the World wants a full size half ton they will buy one if they don't they won't buy one. Not my call, but I would probably listen to others opinions like Robert Ryan who have actually been in other places besides the US. Papa Jim if you want a bigger truck you can always buy a bigger one. Maybe a 3/4 or 1 ton would be more suitable. I will not advise you but your wants seem to go from a Silverado, then a Suburban, and then a Mercedes S class. I don't want to get in the middle of that but just make up your mind what you want and be done with it.

@Tom--If you want to be one of papa jim's fan boys that is your choice.

@RoadWhale--Papa is being sarcastic. He likes to tell others what to think and what to buy and even when all else fails he resorts to name calling and politics. I would just let sleeping dogs lie.

@RoadWhale--Papa is being sarcastic. He likes to tell others what to think and what to buy and even when all else fails he resorts to name calling and politics. I would just let sleeping dogs lie.

@Jeff S

The public has already spoken Jeff. Big trucks and SUVs.

@papa jim--So what's your point? Are you trying to look for an argument? Not everyone thinks or wants the same thing otherwise we would all be driving F-150s and I know how much you hate Fords.

@papa jim--So you admit that not everyone wants an S Class Mercedes? Does that mean you acknowledge the existence of Arkansas, Ohio, KY, and the other flyover states that you said don't matter to the car companies? So the rest of us that don't live in Palm Beach and the Hamptons do matter even though we drive pickups, suvs, and crossovers? What a revelation.



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