2019 Ram 1500 Split Tailgate: Spied

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Rumors about innovative tailgate technology have been swirling around the Ram 1500 pickup truck for several years now, but this is the first time we've seen photographic evidence, and it looks pretty cool. We've seen a few heavily camouflaged Ram pickups this year, giving us a hint that there was something special enough to require some extra wrap and foam padding.

Now we have our first undisguised look. Here's what our spy shooters just sent us:

"We got our first look at the next-generation Ram 1500's new split tailgate design — a development strongly suggesting that the multifunction design revealed in patent drawings is real and should be seen on the coming 2019 Ram 1500.

"A few years ago, Allpar News discovered Chrysler patents for a multifunctional tailgate design that was split down the middle, allowing the tailgate halves to open horizontally (barn-door style) while also enabling it to drop downward in a single piece, like a traditional pickup's tailgate. However, what we see here is a little different.

"Sporting something closer to a 60/40 split, the production unit shown here differs from the 50/50 split tailgate. Beyond the obvious difference, there's no foreseeable reason why the Ram's split tailgate in these spy shots couldn't do all of the same contortions revealed in the original patent. It certainly appears that Ram designers have figured out how to manufacture the system in a reliable and cost-effective manner to bring the multifunction tailgate (could this be RamGate?) into the design for the 2019 Ram 1500. We've seen other undisguised tailgates without the split design, so the split, multifunction design will very likely be an upgrade on the Ram's options list.

"It's still not clear exactly how the new tailgate will be operated. Interior shots have shown a complex key fob that will likely operate the various functions, but it's unclear what can be operated from the traditional-looking tailgate release latch photographed here."

KGP Photography images

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Comments

although its interesting, it looks quite off. the asymmetry really bothers me and the two gates dont even line up.

The split tailgates don't even line up already, looks like the right side is lower than the left....

Good job FCA, good idea but you kinda have to align the tailgates together...

I'd be interested in seeing how much weight these can hold on the tailgate with this new split design, I'd wager a split tailgate can't handle as much weight as a traditional tailgate.

I don't get it, at least Honda's makes some sense. this just looks like a gimmick.

If they put the line in the middle, it would split the 'A' when they put the letters CRAPY on, I mean RAM

It's strange for sure. I like the Ridgline setup

I'm not sure what good this is. I guess if you need to carry a long piece of lumber and have other stuff in the bed on the other side but even then you usually just put rest the long item on top of the closed tailgate anyway. Or maybe they split it so if you open it like a door you don't need 5' of space behind the truck to swing it open. Still will not be an option box I will be checking if I go with another Ram.

Aside from the convenience factor, Ram will need to demonstrate that this design is strong enough to function in the down-position.

If they don't do this it will never fly in the market.

It's a bloody riot to hear the same old Ford boys trashing someone else for showing a little old fashioned ingenuity, something that Ford could use a little more of these days.

Apart from making body panels out of Aluminum what has Ford done lately besides chasing the gas mileage gremlin? I kind of. like RAM's efforts in this regard.

I'm must bee missing something. You either need the tailgate open or closed. I'm not getting the advantage to a split tailgate.

papajim: you are hitting the bottle again I see.

I never "trashed" Ram. I'm simply making a point.

Grow the fuc# up.

The one advantage of a split tail gate is loading of pallets. Instead of having to set a pallet down, move back, re lift, and then push forward again. You can just go straight in and set it down with a standard set of forks.

At my previous job this would have been great as there was between plant transfers daily of pallets of material.

Oh those GM supporters..., C'mon..., you can do better.
It's just testing.
Good point Andy about hauling lumber.

The Ridgeline guys will tell you the advantages of a tailgate that gets out of the way. It is about being able to grab 50lb bags of feed, or 90lb bags of quikrete, without having to reach across a tailgate and drag them across the tailgate. You can also reach heavy stuff toward the front of the bed without having to get up in the bed. It also allows easy access to the trunk, in the Ridgeline's case. And, it provides a rail for stepping up into the bed.

If you don't ever haul much heavy stuff in the bed, then yeah, it doesn't make much sense.

There is the argument of removing your tailgate for the above situations, but that is not always feasible, especially if you have the tailgate locked down to prevent theft. Just pulling it aside is much more convenient and ergonomic.

It looks like the only thing that's not covered. If they are looking for feedback on the forums, maybe they should make some panel tweak's first.
Who sends this out to face the gauntlet of public perusal without that adjustment.
Here, hand me that 9/16 socket and Ill fix it.

Imagine swinging the gate with a drop down step in it much like the Ford old man step. Good idea. Also would be nice if you have a trailer hooked up and need to slide setting out. That scenario makes perfect since for the 60/40 split as a short door would be able to open wide. I can't open my tailgate now without it laying on my trailer jack.

My guess is this won't get to production. Could be an option, not sure many would take it. I'd go for the Ridgeline/1960s station wagon style though.

It looks like some of you didn't get it. This tailgate is not just split. It drops down , also separately. Many scenarios I wish I had this 10 years ago.

https://www.allpar.com/news/2014/06/ram-reinvents-the-tailgate-25270

what has Ford done lately besides chasing the gas mileage gremlin?

@redbloodedxy

So....I'm waiting

I love it. Nice to see someone think outside the box. It looks odd, because it is a big change from traditional trucks. Big win for Ram I think.

-CT

@Rowdy
I have the same problem when trailer hooked. This will address that nicely and conveniently.

@Rowdy
I have the same problem when trailer hooked. This will address that nicely and conveniently.

Ford done lately? You mean sell a huge number of trucks for huge profits? Yeah. Not a big deal at all.

Hey there GM supporter..., (up there a few replies)..., easy does it..., lots of good responses coming thru...

@Rowdy

have you ever towed a trailer with a 'barn door' Suburban or Tahoe. You have to kinda pull the door around you or lean over the tongue of the trailer to get it open. If it's windy the doors are blowing into you while your loading and you have to maneuver around them if you are loading several things.

IMO a better solutions for pickups would be to have the tail gate open normally and the push in under the bed. In much the same way the hatch on the Suburban and Tahoe removes the tailgate from the equation by swinging up.

If you have a lot of heavy bags to unload, or if you are loading pallets, isn't it simply easier to just remove the tailgate, and reattach it once the job is done?

I don't understand this concept, all this seems to do is get the tailgate out of your way. Which can be accomplished with simply removing the tailgate. Which is very easy on trucks these days, and most tailgates are very light.

@Jack,
that's why RAM has one gate shorter. You can get around that easily and wind won't push them much.
Smart solution and I wish I had it 10 years ago. I am a technician and load and unload my 80lbs heavy toolbox several times every day. Dragging it on the tailgate and pushing back is not fun. I would buy new RAM just because of this tailgate.

Actually, thinking of it again, my RAM still works like new, but I have a perfect excuse for my wife to buy a new one now. LOL.

Well, as usual I see a lot of negative commentary based on absolutely no data outside of a photograph and a rough description. Honestly, we have no idea as yet of the intentions behind this design outside of the fact that it allows two-way operation one way or another.

I will admit I question the purpose behind a 70/30 split as we see here, outside of the potential Rowdy suggest for ease of access with a trailer attached and maybe a different form of "man step" up into the bed using the hitch and or bumper as the step itself (though the bumper is much, much too high for an easy step with today's full-sized trucks.)

A 50/50 split makes much more sense to me as it can offer several solutions to a too-short bed by permitting a slide-out extension supported by the tailgate halves (Fiat Toro) or other features, including bed-wall storage similar to but potentially more capacious than Ram's current Rambox offering which effectively prevents any form of bed cover if you want to actually use them.

I'd say 'wait and see', as I want to know more before saying this is good or bad.

That is an interesting concept, but it is a bit odd looking I must admit.

I could see this being a very useful tool for those who sometimes haul long partial loads, like lumber, requiring tailgate down but also need the security of gate up for other portions of the load.

@RoadWhale
If they would split that in the middle, where would you put backup camera and tailgate handle ? I think , this way it has more options ,than in the middle. It looks odd, but I would get it for myself in no time if available.

@jack

No I have never had the chance to tow with a suburban. But that's why I see the 60/40 split.
Your idea of a hidaway tailgate sounds great but I would still think it would have be completely folded down.
I would love to see someone try your idea though.
I have towed with my wife's escape thou and do understand how nice it is for the whole back to be opened up without any gate in the way.

@tyler

We are an age of convenience and how convenient is it to unbuckle each cable lift it out of the way, do your work, and then do the process in reverse? Pulling a latch sounds allot better.

Final opinion, this is innovative and different, don't know how practical or useful it will be, but I won't touch it for now because of the reliability issues I have seen and dealt with in my current 2011 ram fleet truck. After having suffered for 160k miles I am lucky enough that my company is switching to Chevy for a bit. I hope the GM and the 5.3 hold up better than the truck I'm typing this message in.

If this tailgate, that is rumoured to be in the works, it ends me ever buying a new Dodge truck in the future. More parts on a tailgate means more parts to repairs and pay the exorbitant costs that Chrysler already charges for parts.

End of story!

@Mike
It's an option. Like DVD player. What's your point.

Besides it looks odd & hideous, it doesn't even line up...I can imagine it will get worse with wear/tear. So now your stuck with it & see it during ownership....just another gadget to add to more things to go wrong with Fiat products...

If designed properly like HEMI and 8 speed, it will last forever. No one questions door hinges at the house. But I understand your concern Lionel, because of millions of Ford recalled for defective door latch.

@RAM; well whomever in Fiat management that authorized this test mule to be exposed should have done their homework; simply make sure their new innovative tail gate (joke) is aligned properly knowing it will be photographed very closely & scrutinized...geeez.

This is a big fat NO. Never. On the plus side the black cap is just not seated level. Not the sheetmetal misalligned.

It calls testing.
Let's wait for final product. Ford is testing door latches with guinea pig customers. It's going to cost them a lot this time.

It won't be that useful. It is also an eyesore and will just add to the cost. I would avoid it.

Yes , please avoid it. I don't want you to have it.

"If they would split that in the middle, where would you put backup camera and tailgate handle ? I think , this way it has more options ,than in the middle. It looks odd, but I would get it for myself in no time if available." ---- Posted by: RAM


Go look up the Brazilian review for the Fiat Toro pickup truck on YouTube. Granted, the language spoken is Portuguese but if you find the one reviewed by a woman, she does a proper walk around of all the features AND takes it for a test drive on- and off-road. All told about a 20-minute video.

Tyler posted:
"If you have a lot of heavy bags to unload, or if you are loading pallets, isn't it simply easier to just remove the tailgate, and reattach it once the job is done?"
That is exactly why they are making it. Removing the tailgate is no longer easily possible. There are wire harness for the tailgate latch and camera. Tailgates are no longer easy to remove and getting them out of the way to unload efficiently is a huge improvement.

On closer inspection, there is a lot more going on than meets the eye. Anybody notice the shadow over the license plate? Those magnetic flaps w/reflectors are hiding major structure under there. The bumper barely protrudes beyond the tailgate. Who does that on any current truck?

What I can visualize from the photo's is a power extending-bed. They saw the complicated key-fob that puzzled them as to it's use. A power up/down gate would be just silly. Power doors come in slide and lift. These do neither.

Push a button and the bed extends from 5 feet to 8 feet in seconds? Genius! What was thought to be a longer Ram Box rail is just the bypass mechanism cap to protect fingers. Sorry bedrail stowage fans, they found a better use for all that room in there.

As to the split gate...Lincoln abandoned theirs after one model year. I don't know what they are thinking.

I think they didn't do a 50/50 because of the camera and the latch would have to be off centre. Also this way you can haul a ladder with one side open and the other side closed. Curious how much it will cost as a option and how durable it will be.

I think they didn't do a 50/50 because of the camera and the latch would have to be off centre. Also this way you can haul a ladder with one side open and the other side closed. Curious how much it will cost as a option and how durable it will be.

@RoadWhale
I did a long time ago. I was the one , who posted the link for Toro and split tailgate in here. Thank you anyway.

@stevadore
Lincoln had just split gate. That's it . This one drops down as well.

https://www.allpar.com/news/2014/06/ram-reinvents-the-tailgate-25270

Is so its easier to slide the chain out to get pulled home?? No matter what they do?! Its still a piece of 💩 Dodge!!! Recycled chevy parts. This goes out to all u blueoval haters who can’t afford a real truck so u have to settle for the junk described above!! Ford out sell ls all other makes for a reason! Cause nothing is better.

Smart solution and I wish I had it 10 years ago. I am a technician and load and unload my 80lbs heavy toolbox several times every day. Dragging it on the tailgate and pushing back is not fun. I would buy new RAM just because of this tailgate.

Posted by: RAM | Nov 16
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Why not bolt some wheels casters on your toolbox,,or make a dolly with wheels to lay the box on and pull around..
first thing I did with my welder,,simple and easy..



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