March Sales Should Set Records

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Sales forecasters are expecting new-vehicle sales for March to be among some of the best in more than 15 years. According to Automotive News (subscription required), several automotive analysts are anticipating a strong month-over-month increase largely due to the fact there is one more selling day and weekend in March 2018 when compared to March 2017.

Of special note, some experts who keep track of incentive spending are seeing Ford putting more money on the hood to better compete with the new 2019 Ram 1500 and 2019 Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra 1500s, which are getting lots of media attention. The 2019 Ram 1500s are on sale now; the 2019 Silverado and Sierra 1500s will go on sale in the fall. Also, depending on where you live, there are some great deals on previous-generation Ram 1500s both in the U.S. and Canada as the automaker works to sell down old inventory to make room for the all-new vehicles.

Many experts seem to think that economic headwinds are coming despite consumer confidence remaining strong. Whether that will negatively impact the pickup truck market, which has so many new options in the pipeline, remains to be seen as we head into the traditionally strong-selling summer months.

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It should be HUGE numbers. F150 quad 4x4 $199 a month. Ram quad 4x4 $169 a month. Should be Huggggge.

Remember the new Silverado in 14' was offering discounts by March of 14' due to slow sales.

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Mar 31, 2018 4:55:22 PM

Still doesn't top Ford dealers throwing $13k on the hood of 2015 F-150's by June 2015. Nothing more pathetic than that.

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Ram could potentially start a truck market war because the 19' Ram is undoubtedly going to be superior to the new GM trucks and Ford has a new F-150 following suit in 2020. So enjoy 2019, the rules will be changed again in 2020. ;-)

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Mar 31, 2018 4:55:22 PM

That's an interesting theory. So according to you, Ram will have the best truck, followed by GM, and Ford landing in third? Without a doubt! Ford, with their "military-grade" aluminum foil bed, timing chain eating ecobust, and plastic grinding 4WD system, is about to be ripped apart. Even the front suspension is now made of wimpy stamped steel. So much for all that bragging Ford did about stamped steel being inferior to forged control arms. The 2016 F-150 3.5 EB was absolutely EMBARRASSED in 2016 against 2 older steel trucks. The 2019 F-150 is going to be a laughingstock in comparisons this fall. Ford will no doubt continue to ignore the ecobust problems and weak plastic 4WD system. They can't even get their IWE's to work right after well over a decade. Same with their cheap plastic throttle bodies.

Throwing money on the hoods to entice people to buy worked well for me!! I see no problem with it. Especially if u don't have anything to trade in! My father just went with me Friday to pickup my new truck. He was looking for a smaller SUV for his wife. They took $10k off a Buick SUV for him.
He still has his truck to drive, but wanted a smaller SUV for long travels and gas mileage. Plus, she really doesn't like trying to park these big trucks now a days!! Same as my wife, that's why I bought her a Terrain. She loves the size and driving ability it has.

Waiting for incentives like this makes consumers like him and I very happy!!
Unfortunately, many people can't wait and pay full price for the latest and greatest!

BTW.....Happy Easter to all on the forum!

Erik the Red...exact same talking points as GMS and TNT.

Got to do better than that Johnny Dough.Head

Erik the Red...exact same talking points as GMS and TNT.

Got to do better than that Johnny Dough.Head

@ GMS/TNT/Johnny Dough.Head

“ I see same MPH...and the 2.7 wasn't stock.... “

Drag races are won with the ET, not mph.

13.58 sec - Ford 2.7EB

13.97 sec - Chevy 6.2

Gmbailout

Read the comments below

The 6.2l was STOCK!!! And he governed out!!!

Know what your talking about before u post....no 2.7 will come close to a 6.2 stock for stick or if both are tuned.... Come on man!!!

Drag races are won with the ET, not mph.

13.58 sec - Ford 2.7EB

13.97 sec - Chevy 6.2

Posted by: GMBailout | Apr 1, 2018 12:37:44 PM

As usual, FORD fans only educated enough to listen or look at video. Dude, have someone read the comments section to you and you will discover that the 2.7 had a tune done to it, the 6.2 was stock. But notice how the 6.2 left off the line and who knows what else. As usual, Ford's require aftermarket performance to compete with stock GM. HAHAHA!

Sorry, my phone posted before I finished typing. As I was saying, notice how the 6.2 left off the line. That fells awesome when you have that torque hit you in the backside. Of course, as usual, whether it be a Mustang or F-150, Fords require aftermarket performance to compete with stock GM. HAHAHA!

@ GMS/TNT/Johnny Dough.Head

Where did I say anything about stock or tuned?

I didn’t.

I only referenced your post about “ same MPH “. When the fact is any educated person knows drag racing is about abou time to distance ( elapsed time ), not mph.

U shouldn't have commented BC like we have said no stock 2.7 WILL EVER beat a 6.2L. The 6.2 also governed out that's why it couldn't go faster!!! If your educated in drag racing u should already know this!

And I was stating same MPH to reference that the 6.2 was governed out, and it beat that little gerbil engine off line!!!

Done talking to small minded ford guys on this BC u guys are butt hurt that your fords can't match a GM motor!

I guess it is because of the direct injection where fuel atomization is less affected by the ambient temperatures.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 31, 2018 10:17:50 AM

Cold air also affects aero considerations. The truck is working harder to push air out of the way when the air is below 20 degrees.

Too funny. This is great entertainment watching the Ford and GM fan boys bickering back and forth. I need to run to the microwave and pop a bag of popcorn.

I got one thing to tell the GM an Ford fan boys: You guys are going to be crying like babies when the 2019 BEST IN Class RAM hits the lots. Then everyone will be flocking to the RAM dealers to test drive and purchase the new BEST IN CLASS truck. Life is good!!

2019 RAM...Coming soon to a dealer near you!!

As usual, FORD fans only educated enough to listen or look at video. Dude, have someone read the comments section to you and you will discover that the 2.7 had a tune done to it, the 6.2 was stock. But notice how the 6.2 left off the line and who knows what else. As usual, Ford's require aftermarket performance to compete with stock GM. HAHAHA!

Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Apr 1, 2018 2:43:46 PM

The 2.7 EcoBoost beats a 5.3 GM pretty handily, especially when pulling 7,000lbs. Now your admitting the same 2.7 beats a 6.2 GM after a simple $350 tune!!! I did not know that! Impressive to say the least!! Thanks for sharing!!

That's an interesting theory. So according to you, Ram will have the best truck, followed by GM, and Ford landing in third? Without a doubt!
Posted by: Erik the Red | Apr 1, 2018 12:19:02 AM

I said the Ram will undoubtedly be better than the 19' GM trucks. Nice spin. Maybe start going by the username CNN too?

Too funny. This is great entertainment watching the Ford and GM fan boys bickering back and forth. I need to run to the microwave and pop a bag of popcorn.

I got one thing to tell the GM an Ford fan boys: You guys are going to be crying like babies when the 2019 BEST IN Class RAM hits the lots. Then everyone will be flocking to the RAM dealers to test drive and purchase the new BEST IN CLASS truck. Life is good!!

2019 RAM...Coming soon to a dealer near you!!

Posted by: HEMI_RAMPAGE | Apr 1, 2018 5:24:17 PM

I do think the new Ram is going to impressive. Chevy finally figured tires are round and made their wheel wells to match. That's a start!!

@ Hemi rampage

All here say for now... Ram changed the front end to look like a Durango. The engines are the same...except for e-TQ and verdict still out on that! The interior is very nice but to say it will take over GM is speculation. Has big jump to do that! Good luck!

@ Ecoboost Roost

Bring your gerbil engine to ME or GMSRGREAT and we will dust that thing. I don't even have my borla exhaust and cold air intake yet...that boosts HP by another 20! U wouldn't know what to do with all that power!!!

As for Chevy finally figuring out wheel wells....I like the square look.
I just wish Ford could finally produce a descent engine that can compete with GMs!!! They obviously can't produce a V8 so they copy GM from the 90s and try turbo charging and they still cant perfect it.

I guess it is because of the direct injection where fuel atomization is less affected by the ambient temperatures.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Mar 31, 2018 10:17:50 AM

Cold air also affects aero considerations. The truck is working harder to push air out of the way when the air is below 20 degrees.

Posted by: papajim | Apr 1, 2018 4:39:56 PM

papajim, I understand a little about aero and i'm sure that you are correct about the 20 degree thing. The thing is, this 2015 Silverado delivers identical highway mileage summer or winter. Obviously, ambient temperature isn't affecting the mileage. All my previous vehicles had its fuel mileage suffer considerably during cold weather highway driving. The only thing that has really changed is the direct injection.

Here's a video of a 6.2 almost overheating on a towing test.

https://youtu.be/dq8S83AYKsU


Here's a video of a 6.2 almost overheating on a towing test.

https://youtu.be/dq8S83AYKsU


Posted by: Robert | Apr 1, 2018 10:21:10 PM

HaHa! Almost overheated. That's funny. But seriously, no one beats Ford at overheating in a towing test.

https://youtu.be/ZXmbltLogms

Here's a video of a 6.2 almost overheating on a towing test.

https://youtu.be/dq8S83AYKsU

Posted by: Robert | Apr 1, 2018 10:21:10 PM


"Almost overheating"? Lol give me a I'm break! That's not even close to overbeating. Talk about desperate fanboyism.

THIS is overheating:

https://youtu.be/CPmJDdFwMvo

The F-150 is 4 years ahead
The 2019 Ram is just beginning to catch up
The Ram will never be a sales leader as long as they use that stupid dial shifter
Ford will never lie down and allow any competitor better them and they have the deep pockets to make big investments to retool and design a even better F-150.

Ford can afford to sell their F-150 for less cause their investment and retooling back in 2015 is paid for by now where Ram is spending big money to change their 2019 model
Ram will never catch up to that

@ Robert

Your very desperate man!! Stop it, u are not helping yourself at all!!!

Ford can afford to sell their F-150 for less cause their investment and retooling back in 2015 is paid for by now where Ram is spending big money to change their 2019 model
Ram will never catch up to that
Posted by: Ecoboost Rules | Apr 2, 2018

@Ecoboost

At least 90 percent of the engineering in modern cars/pickups utilizes scientific principles that have been well understood for decades.

The changes that automakers yap about when their new models debut are a small part of the science involved in building and distributing these products. The more complex manufacturing processes that Ford pioneered in the introduction of aluminum panels on the F150 a few years ago, while representing real change in pickups, utilized ideas that aircraft manufacturers were refining 50 years ago.

try again.

Face it guys, the 6.2 might be fast and fun to brag about but it ain't for towing or truck work. It looks good on paper but hook 10,000 behind it and it will show its inferiority to the ecoboost. The ecoboost was built from the ground up for work, the 6.2 is a car motor that they stuck in the truck because the 5.3 was getting destroyed by the competition.

the 6.2 is a car motor that they stuck in the truck

@Robert

You hoist yourself up for ridicule with such a silly remark.

The 3.5 Ecoboost was an engine Ford was using in Lincoln sedans, coupes and Crossovers before it was ever in a F150.

The 6.2 GM engine is an excellent choice for large SUVs The Ford 6.2 is an excellent choice as well. Unfortunately Ford's brass removed the 6.2 from the available half ton choices back around 2012. It would be perfect in the F150 or the Expedition but they chose otherwise.

Auto sales might be down for March. It looks like subprime buyers are avoiding the dealerships. Vehicle prices and higher interest rates are taking a toll.

Face it guys, the 6.2 might be fast and fun to brag about but it ain't for towing or truck work. It looks good on paper but hook 10,000 behind it and it will show its inferiority to the ecoboost. The ecoboost was built from the ground up for work, the 6.2 is a car motor that they stuck in the truck because the 5.3 was getting destroyed by the competition.

Posted by: Robert | Apr 2, 2018 9:16:50 AM

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01/whats-the-best-light-duty-truck-for-towing-2016-texas-truck-showdown.html

Your very desperate man!! Stop it, u are not helping yourself at all!!!


Posted by: TNTGMC | Apr 2, 2018 6:38:55 AM

You're a f'ken toolbag, shoot yourself.

Hey Frank

No one cares what u say...truth hurts so u go back to insults....u are the hopeless one!!

@GMS/TNT/Johnny Dough.Head

“ I just wish Ford could finally produce a descent engine that can compete with GMs!!! They obviously can't produce a V8 “

Wards 10 Best Engines, 2018

5.0L Coyote V8

Then we have another world class Ford V8;

5.2L Voodoo V8

Add the 6.2L ( gas ) and 6.7L ( diesel )

All those V8’s refute your biased claim

At bailout

Hmmm...6.2L desimates your 5.0, 5.2l and 6.2l gas ford has!!!

Any questions.

GMS/TNT/Johnny Dough.Head

You’re entitled to your ( biased ) opinion.

You’re not entitled to pass off that ( biased ) opinion as fact.

That is very true!! I never even mentioned the 7.0l.

Glad your a good sport and we can go back and forth without name calling and insults unlike childish people like Frank

Then we have another world class Ford V8;

5.2L Voodoo V8

Posted by: GMBailout | Apr 2, 2018 2:04:10 PM

While I applaud Ford for pushing themselves to make a flat plane crank V8 for a Mustang, you're going way too far calling it a "world class V8". Now if you called it a "World Class Oil Burner", that would be much more accurate. I've seen GT350's burn multiple quarts per 1000 miles. The vibration issues with the engine alone is going to make it a headache in the long term. They shake enough to break exhaust components on track days. Neat engine but with Ford at the helm, expensive problems aren't far behind.

Wards 10 Best Engines list?

@GMbailout

You are kidding, right. For every good engine on the Ward's list during the last 30 years there have been a ton of real stinkers. Ditto for the Motor Trend COTY awards. Lame.

Try again!

@ papa Johnny

I forgot you’re a leading, accredited publication and award winning journalist.

Go back to lecturing your trailer park on the benefit of chewing tobacco over cigarettes

My work has been published. Yours?

Remember the new Silverado in 14' was offering discounts by March of 14' due to slow sales.

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Mar 31, 2018 4:55:22 PM

Still doesn't top Ford dealers throwing $13k on the hood of 2015 F-150's by June 2015. Nothing more pathetic than that.

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Ram could potentially start a truck market war because the 19' Ram is undoubtedly going to be superior to the new GM trucks and Ford has a new F-150 following suit in 2020. So enjoy 2019, the rules will be changed again in 2020. ;-)

Posted by: 2.7EcoBoostRoost | Mar 31, 2018 4:55:22 PM

That's an interesting theory. So according to you, Ram will have the best truck, followed by GM, and Ford landing in third? Without a doubt! Ford, with their "military-grade" aluminum foil bed, timing chain eating ecobust, and plastic grinding 4WD system, is about to be ripped apart. Even the front suspension is now made of wimpy stamped steel. So much for all that bragging Ford did about stamped steel being inferior to forged control arms. The 2016 F-150 3.5 EB was absolutely EMBARRASSED in 2016 against 2 older steel trucks. The 2019 F-150 is going to be a laughingstock in comparisons this fall. Ford will no doubt continue to ignore the ecobust problems and weak plastic 4WD system. They can't even get their IWE's to work right after well over a decade. Same with their cheap plastic throttle bodies.

Resorting to copying and pasting yourself huh Erik?

Repetitive posting is called propaganda

@ papa Johnny

Being published in “ The Trailer Park Colonist “, which you print next to your still, isn’t really what one would call being published, now is papa Johnny?

The ecoboost was built from the ground up for work, the 6.2 is a car motor that they stuck in the truck because the 5.3 was getting destroyed by the competition.

Posted by: Robert | Apr 2, 2018 9:16:50 AM

Haha, you need to come back to reality. The 3.5 Ecoboost is based on the 3.5 Duratec, a CAR ENGINE. The 3.5EB made its debut in the 2010 Lincoln MKS, Lincoln MKT, Ford Flex, and Ford Taurus SHO before it was used in the F-150. Nothing about the engine is any more "built for work" than the 6.2.

Not only that, but the only V8 offered in the F-150 today was borrowed from the Mustang. It's FAR more of a car engine than the Gen V 6.2.

If you knew a thing or two about the 3.5L Ecoboosts design, you would see that it is overbuilt compared to other gas engines. Where most engine makes uses iron cylinders sleeves, the 3.5L EB uses a much stronger steel sleeve. Where most other engine makers use four bolt mains, the 3.5L Ecoboost uses six. Where most engine manufacturers use an Iron crank, the 3.5L EB has a steel crankshaft.

It still can not compete with GMs 6.2L any way u look at it!!!

It's hard to compete against something that is basically a unicorn. Not everyone wants a dolled up mom mobile that will neber haul anytning but groceries and dirty kids. I guess GM is going after their target market though since Ford owns work.

Where most other engine makers use four bolt mains, the 3.5L Ecoboost uses six.
Posted by: GMBailout | Apr 2, 2018 7:57:07 PM

LOL who uses 4-bolt mains these days? GM's LS engines are all 6-bolt mains. Even GM's naturally aspirated 3.6 V6 has 6-bolt mains. The 5.7 Hemi has 6-bolt mains. The Toyota i-Force 5.7 has 6-bolt mains.

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Where most engine manufacturers use an Iron crank, the 3.5L EB has a steel crankshaft.
Posted by: GMBailout | Apr 2, 2018 7:57:07 PM


A cast iron crank is more likely to fail due to excessive engine RPM than power output, especially in any application even remotely resembling factory power levels. In case you didn't know, GM's 6.2 uses a forged crank.


If the 3.5 Ecoboost is so "overbuilt", why does it have cast aluminum pistons and powdered metal rods? Typically a turbocharged gas engine uses forged pistons and rods. Why does it use a cheap inverted tooth timing chain?

It's hard to compete against something that is basically a unicorn. Not everyone wants a dolled up mom mobile that will neber haul anytning but groceries and dirty kids. I guess GM is going after their target market though since Ford owns work.

Posted by: Robert | Apr 2, 2018 10:44:11 PM

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01/whats-the-best-light-duty-truck-for-towing-2016-texas-truck-showdown.html

Where most other engine makers use four bolt mains, the 3.5L Ecoboost uses six.
Posted by: GMBailout | Apr 2, 2018 7:57:07 PM

LOL let me guess, when you say "most other engine makers", you mean to say that GM uses 4-bolt mains and Ford "builds their engines heavier" by using 6-bolt mains.

GM's V8's have had deep skirt blocks with 6-bolt mains for 2 decades now. Since the first gen 3.6 V6 made its debut, it has also had a deep skirt block with 6-bolt mains. Like Erik pointed out, most truck engines have 6-bolt mains these days too. You sound like a kid regurgitating what his dad told him based on information that's outdated by 30 years. He probably think Ford makes a "heavy duty" 4x4 system for its F-150 these days too. He probably doesn't realize that Ford's IWE's are plastic garbage.

Gretta, who goes into a kicking and screaming fit when PUTC picks a Ford in any of it's test, sure loves to throw out the 2016 towing showdown test as his measure of how great the 6.2 is. The comparison he keeps referencing doesn't even list performance numbers when the trucks were actually towing!!! Too funny!

Here you go Gretta. Get you out of 2016. Your mighty 6.2 finished over 9 seconds behind the 3.5 Eco, which they had to literally take their foot out of the gas to keep it at the 8 minute benchmark. Maybe when you get Ford's 10 speed, you'll catch back up.

"The Ford at anytime, I could accelerate. I can't do that right now" (While driving the 6.2 Chevy in the towing test). "That 3.5 EcoBoost is a monster towing".....
Yes, the 6.2 would fair better at sea level so if you NEVER tow uphill the GM engine would better compete with the Gold Hitch award winning F-150.
https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/03/2017-chevy-silverado-1500-6-2l-v8-fights-gold-hitch-best-towing-truck-award-video/

Oh yeah, I'm predicting the Ford will be #1 in March sales too btw.



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