2020 Ford Super Duty: Spied

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The Truck Wars are marching at a fevered pitch across all pickup truck classes as all three heavy-duty truckmakers get ready to come to market with all-new or updated pickups. GM and Ram will offer new three-quarter-ton and one-ton trucks, while Ford will have something more akin to a mid-model refresh for the 2020 model year. Here's what our spy shooters caught recently in Dearborn, Mich.

"This is our first look at the revised Ford F-Series Super Duty. The Super Duty models will undergo some moderate updates when the next-generation 2020 models come out, including updates already seen on the 2018 F-150. These changes are likely to include a new 10-speed automatic transmission and some of Ford's Co-Pilot360 driver safety technology.

"The bigger changes, we're hearing, are under the hood. A new V-8 engine is slated to replace the aging 6.8-liter V-10 gasoline unit (now only available on medium-duty trucks), thereby improving fuel economy. According to our sources, the new engine will be a 7.0-liter V-8 with production slated for Windsor, Ontario. Outside, the front end will sport a new grille and redesigned headlights, while the rear will likely mimic the changes seen on the Ford F-150 with revised taillights, tailgate and a new tailgate latch.

"The 2020 Ford Super Duty is slated to be released in 2019."

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Comments

Seems early for a refresh... but they did lose the last contest on here.

According to our sources, the new engine will be a 7.0-liter V-8 with production slated for Windsor, Ontario.

@PUTC

Someone at Ford has been listening. I've been proposing a return to Windsor engines, and I'm convinced that big block V-8s will be an improvement to the current offerings.

As far as the Super Duty goes: YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD

GUTS
GLORY
CLASS LEADING RAM HD

Awesome!

Great GM finally makes it to 2010,, and now Ford is again pulling away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice snow scraper on the front

Superduty, second best truck in the class.

Great GM finally makes it to 2010,, and now Ford is again pulling away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 8, 2018 2:58:00 PM

I do not care who, or what you are.....

That there was funny.

Thank you.

looks like the @$$ half is back posting under me...

They can redesign it every year. It will get beat in performance like it has the last 18 years. Keep trying though ford!

They are scared bc a 6 yr old truck beat down on its 2 yr old truck and now GMs new 2020 is coming out, Ford is Super worried.

Great GM finally makes it to 2010,, and now Ford is again pulling away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 8, 2018 2:58:00 PM

I do not care who, or what you are.....

That there was funny.

Thank you.


Posted by: Frank | Aug 8, 2018 3:34:35 PM


Don't laugh at your own posts frankie....

Major rake!!!

The front end looks narrow compared to current. Can't believe that will change much. Good camo I guess.

Great GM finally makes it to 2010,, and now Ford is again pulling away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: TNTGMC | Aug 8, 2018 2:58:00 PM

Funny, Ford has fallen short in every test against Ram and GM in HD comparisons since 2010. Ford always has those big numbers for the TV ads but the performance seems to always result in major disappointment when they get tested.

Don't laugh at your own posts frankie....


Posted by: andrwken | Aug 8, 2018 4:00:37 PM

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@ Frank
Good one, my ten year old would have a more intelligent response than yours

@HD RamKing, you are right on!

The wing on the back of the cab is ugly.

Looks like a F450 regular cab with the wider front axle.

i don't think ford will be able to beat the duramax especially when gm will up grade the engine soon

Still aluminum? I work in the body shop industry and know what happens to them. And I ain't driving these pieces of crap!

HHAHAHAHA Another redesigned SOOPER DOOTY? I wonder if this one will be best in class on paper but second or third place in real world testing?? LOL

Ford is sticking with Solid Front Axle 4x4s, like Ram, for their HDs.
GM is STILL using the linear rate torsion bar IFS that actually produces a WORSE ride than the competition.
And for the IFS lovers, if it is so amazing, why are the GM 4500/5500 4x4 trucks equipped with a solid axle?

@papa
I don’t think the Windsor architecture returns, just the plant. Those engines were a bad design for displacement more than 5 liters. The SOHC will remain, but it will have a larger bore and longer stroke, my sources indicate a 104mm bore and a stroke “close to 100mm”. Long stroke engines are great for steady-State rpm, like in trucks.

GM is STILL using the linear rate torsion bar IFS that actually produces a WORSE ride than the competition.

Posted by: James

Nobody buys 1-ton trucks for a soft, supple ride, they're meant to be work trucks and the ride is part of the compromise for more capacity and capability. Their IFS may ride slightly harsher, but an IFS front suspension doesn't suffer from death wobble like so many of the newer Super Duty trucks do at low mileage (aka "The truck isn't designed to go faster than 65 MPH."). The torsion bars are nice when you use the truck to plow in the winter and can adjust the ride height back up.


And for the IFS lovers, if it is so amazing, why are the GM 4500/5500 4x4 trucks equipped with a solid axle?

Posted by: James


Because they're built on a Navistar chassis, with Duramax engines, Allison transmissions, and Chevy cabs. GM contracted Navistar to build them due to requests from fleet buyers, not because GM is looking to push for big sales. Fleet buyers want to be able to one-stop-shop, so GM has slowly filled the gaps in their fleet lineup by adding a medium duty truck, a midsize truck in the form of a Colorado WT trim, a cab-over Isuzu, etc.

Is any part of the new Nissan Titans body made out of aluminum?

You idiots forget that Ford won the 3/4 ton work truck comparison.

Not GM. Not FIAT.

The obvious camo suggests new duds, but changes to the body and lamps won't "mimic" what was done on the half ton because they are two different trucks.

What I find interesting is the aerodynamic kick-up at the rear of the cab roof and the 7.0 [429?] V8.

@ imposter TNTGMC

Its 2018, gm won the comparison. Its not 1998 when Ford had a worthy 7.3L power stroke

Get a clue and a life. And grow some b@lls and use your own name. I mean I realize u have an infatuation for me, but come on little man

That name Super Duty has always made me laugh due to the line of work that I'm in. That name reminds me of something big and smelly that a person leaves in the toilet bowl.

Just so you know, we use Cummins powered Rams for the smaller jobs and Internationals for the bigger jobs!

TNT's new name should be TNTGMDFENDER.

All you peanut gallery commentators are simply besides yourselves and heavily invested in your own council.
For all the supposed wins for GM and oh well never mind RAM, the Real actual winner is Ford. It doesn't matter a bit if you are fractions ahead on a given parameter, if you are not selling more or gaining market share you have not won anything.
Oh sure the excuse makers will chirp " fleet", "kool Aid" " Dooty" "Marketing Magic". All of that may give you Solace and comfort unfortunately it does not alter the reality of FORD F SERIES SUPER DUTY DOMINANCE you will continue to be distant #2 and nearly off the radar #3.

the FAKE papajim strikes again

@casual observer

whenever you choose to lecture people it helps to spell correctly.

Hint: C-o-u-n-s-e-l not council

Thanks papa. I will have a conversation with my auto correct, thank you for catching that.

@ Frank,

Would you like to join my new club? I am the President of the Ford Shills USA Fan Club. Would you like to be my VP? See if you can recruit BA and the rest of the boys. This will be one hell of a party! :)

@ Papa. FYI-

Seeking ones own Council is to advise, consult, or deliberate a matter with yourself.

Counsel is advice or instruction. However, it can also include opinion or deliberation about a matter.
So I politely retract my prior post.

Pehaps you should stick with what you know, not what you think you know.


@ Casual Observer

All the butt hurt fanboys will ALWAYS be bad-talking the leader, just look at the majority of commenters on here. Mostly gm cheerleaders trying to poke fun at the truck that outsells their favorite year after year.

In the one ton or 3500 Ram sells more trucks than GM.

I see the contagion of fake postings is spreading faster than pink eye in Kindergarten. What a sad commentary for those who engage.
To imply shill for a particular brand is folly.
This odd behavior of fake posting is telling of a child or an supposed adult who has nothing to bring to the table and is up past his or hers bedtime.

@TNTGMC

“Its 2018, gm won the comparison. Its not 1998 when Ford had a worthy 7.3L power stroke “

He’s talking about the 3/4 ton gas HD trucks you moron.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2017/03/whats-the-best-34-ton-work-truck-for-2017/comments/page/2/#comments

I BET ALL THE GARBAGE MOTORS AND FIAT MOTORS ENGINEERS ARE SO SCARED ABOUT THAT 2020 FORD.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

According to our sources, the new engine will be a 7.0-liter V-8 with production slated for Windsor, Ontario.

With the 10 million MUSTANG built yesterday & 427 V8 coming next year.................... Best selling sportcar of all time.

Poor old Camaro's still stuck at 5.5 million.........

@ James

"I don’t think the Windsor architecture returns, just the plant. Those engines were a bad design for displacement more than 5 liters.

Posted by: James | Aug 8, 2018 10:10:55 PM"

Why exactly were those engines a bad design over 5 liters?

The 5.8L Ford used in so many trucks was one of the best engines put in ANY truck.


@ BA.....aka Mr. Insecure

Can u ever just respond and debate without insulting. Your character flaws are atrocious! I can tell u have no friends

As for the 6.2L from ford vs 6.0L from GM. Well I should hope it beats a 15 year old engine. The 6.2L is not even 6 years old. About time Ford catches up. Its still doesnt have the reliability behind it like the 6.0L. But I do like that engine.....makes me wonder why Ford removed it from its half tons????? Hmmmmmmmm...

Now u wanna debate, I'll debate.... U call me another name, I'll put u in your place!!! Little man!

@ fullsize

Best engines ever?? I doubt that. If it was so good, ford would have found a way to keep using it instead of dropping it for junk tritons!

I do think its a good engine though...


@TNT

I stopped short of saying the best engine EVER because what that engine is (best ever) depends on who you ask. I did say that the 5.8L Ford is just as great a truck engine as the best from any brand. Ford decided to go with OHC after 1996 (i've seen good i've seen bad from that move) but that dosent take away from the 5.8l being a great engine. Unless you agree that gm going with the LS motor and abandoning the 350 V8 makes that engine an inferior motor that gm couldn't do anything else with.

With the 10 million MUSTANG built yesterday & 427 V8 coming next year.................... Best selling sportcar of all time.
Poor old Camaro's still stuck at 5.5 million.........

Posted by: Blueman | Aug 9, 2018 12:29:12 PM

The Mustang isn't a sports car. The Corvette is America's best selling and longest continually produced sports car.

what is going on with back top part of the cab

what is going on with back top part of the cab

@fullsize

I agree with u, it's a good motor. Ford still should have invested big money it to keep it around! Maybe they have wised up and this new motor will be great for them. I like the sound of 7.0L V8 muscle. Hope GM does the same.

There is already people saying in 2020 the 6.2L from GM is getting upgraded with higher HP. Hopefully they also bring out a bigger displacement motor for a special edition truck. I mean they have a plethora of SB Or BB V8s to choose from!! 100 million sold and counting!

@casual observer of English grammar, spelling and punctuation. Consider yourself corrected:

"...counsel, council, and consul sound alike, however, they are different words with different meanings. Counsel can be used as a verb or a noun, whereas council and consul are nouns. Counsel as a verb means to advise; as a noun, it means the person doing the advising or the advice itself."

above text courtesy Duke University law school.



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