September Pickup Sales Are Likely to Stall, They Say

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September 2018 pickup truck sales are likely to be down significantly compared to September 2017 numbers, due in large part to the after effects of Hurricane Harvey, which struck in August 2017. That storm resulted in a surge of vehicle sales during September 2017 as people who lost vehicles to the hurricane used insurance money to buy new ones.

According to Forbes.com, many automotive prognosticators are anticipating a pretty good slump for September. Of course, many of these same outlets also predicted August would see a drop in sales, but that didn't happen.

Complicating September's sales figures will be Hurricane Florence's impact on the Carolinas — that will likely cut into September sales, but it also has potential for bumping up future sales as residents in affected states recover from storm and flood damage and purchase more pickup trucks to help rebuild.

Many experts are still predicting year-end numbers to be close to 2017's totals, likely finishing as one of the top five sales years in U.S. history. Car sales continue to fall as more people move to crossovers, SUVs and pickups. We'll know more Tuesday when automakers report sales numbers for each U.S. pickup truck. Since this will be a third-quarter report, we'll be able to share GM numbers (earlier this year GM switched from monthly to quarterly reporting).

While Ford will likely top our September sales chart because it reports its pickup sales under the F-Series umbrella, which brand will sell the most in the third quarter is anyone's guess.

Cars.com photo by Mark Williams

 

Comments

Ford will be the leading brand in the third quarter as they have been for a long time.

For the GM critics, this is the whole reason General Motors brass gave last spring when they announced the change to quarterly reports. Weather.

Weather and they fact that GM has poor sales and doesn't like to report more then necessary.

Article should read:
Ford pick-ups are like to stall, they say.

What a silly question of course FORD AND NOTHING BUT FORD.

and THEY fact that GM has poor sales and doesn't like to report more then necessary.
Posted by: papajim | Sep 28, 2018

@the fake papajim

When you pretend to be me please don't spell like an illiterate fool. The "fool" part you've already got covered but the readers here at PUTC expect me to write without looking like an idiot. Second, GM outsold Ford (pickups) during most of the last decade so getting your facts straight counts too.

Thanks moron.

McDonald’s sells the most hamburgers, and they’re not the best.

Same holds true for GM ( when you add full-size and mid-size. And tfeyre definitely not the best ).

* they’re

Nothing beats a GM truck. They are the best.

Nothing beats a GM truck. They are the best.
Posted by: papajim | Sep 28, 2018

@the FAKE papajim

So at least you got the spelling right this time. Did your mommy help?

@papajim

Get on topic old man. Or leave.

Don't be surprised when your comments start getting blocked by the admin. Night/Night!

@papajim quit using my name, I hope your IP address gets banned for good.
THE REAL PAPAJIM

the FAKE papajim, but the REAL big al from australia

Just a note: GM gets one of us marked as a sale for this quarter. They're marking it sold now while I take delivery on Monday (paying cash.)

Are you impressed?

Vulpine pays with cash everybody!

The FAKE Jeff. Things must be quiet on the sheep station today.

"Are you impressed? Vulpine pays with cash everybody!" ---- Posted by: Jeff

At least I'm not paying thousands extra in interest the way most are having to do with these 8-year notes. Sure, I'll be eating the depreciation by buying new but I'm not spending more than I need to and getting what I want with little to no worry about needed repairs for the next 3-6 years.

We are not worthy! Lian interest rates are low. Money cannot be inested now. Think opportunity cost.

The FAKE Jeff. Things must be quiet on the sheep station today.


Posted by: papajim | Sep 29, 2018 3:14:54 PM

Get on topic old man

The FAKE Brick. Saturday nights must be quiet at the trailer park.

A trailer sounds nice. I live in a tent

Get on topic PapaJoke

For the GM critics, this is the whole reason General Motors brass gave last spring when they announced the change to quarterly reports. Weather...Posted by: papajim | Sep 28, 2018

@Brick

Already covered it. Night/night. go to bed.

You’re a disaster of epic proportions PapaJoke. Make complete sense why you spend your twilight years alone and miserable.

Ford may sell more trucks than any other brand, but their profits won't reflect that. Between the absolutely massive incentives they've resorted to in order to keep sales numbers looking nice, and the big hit from rising aluminum prices, expect another sad financial report from Ford.

the big hit from rising aluminum prices, expect another sad financial report from Ford....Posted by: Rammins | Sep 29, 2018

@Rammins

Good point but please don't be confused about "aluminum prices."

Ford's board of directors likes to blame White House policy but the fact is that Ford leadership for the last couple of decades has done much more to hurt the company than the many excuses that their corporate reports drag out every 90 days.

Ford and GM 10% down, RAM 10% UP.

This article does not take into account potential sales from Hurricane Florence. Additionally the floods and fires this year should contribute to additional vehicle sales. The year is not over yet.

Did you actually READ the article? It does address the hurricane.

@papajim

Get on topic old man. Or leave.


Posted by: Brick | Sep 28, 2018 11:43:26 PM


Frank?

The FAKE Jeff. Things must be quiet on the sheep station today.


Posted by: papajim | Sep 29, 2018 3:14:54 PM

Get on topic old man


Posted by: Brick | Sep 29, 2018 4:01:07 PM


Frank.

Get on topic PapaJoke


Posted by: Brick | Sep 29, 2018 5:56:39 PM


More Frank.

You’re a disaster of epic proportions PapaJoke. Make complete sense why you spend your twilight years alone and miserable.


Posted by: Brick | Sep 29, 2018 6:32:21 PM


You sir are a terribly bored person to run around impersonating other people in an attempt to get anyone to see your ignorant point of view.


"While Ford will likely top our September sales chart because it reports its pickup sales under the F-Series umbrella, which brand will sell the most in the third quarter is anyone's guess."

Posted by Mark Williams | September 28, 2018


I find it funny that you feel the need to point out the F-series umbrella being the reason Ford will top your September chart, i mean because that must be the reason Gm stopped reporting monthly. Plus we all know that Ford is unique in reporting full-size pickups that way, very unlike Gm and Ram that report all half-tons, three-quarter and one tons separately right????

Buy what you want to buy and live with it. If it treats you well, then keep buying it. I love GM trucks because they are dependable, have best V8's offered along with their small block heritage to back them up, and they don't catch on fire! Plain and simple!

"Buy what you want to buy and live with it. If it treats you well, then keep buying it."

Posted by: TNTGMC | Oct 1, 2018 7:38:50 AM


I agree 100%.

Heritage is good too, but not always nice. Kind of like those trucks with outside the frame gas tanks that would burn down in accidents....

"While Ford will likely top our September sales chart because it reports its pickup sales under the F-Series umbrella, which brand will sell the most in the third quarter is anyone's guess."

Posted by Mark Williams | September 28, 2018

Just to help you read between the lines. What Mark is saying is,
GM builds trucks, Ford builds trucks, GM sells more trucks.

@gmsrgreat

I think Mr Williams actually meant to say "which company" not "which brand."

GM is the company. It has many brands. Unlike Ford. Here in the US Ford sells under (cars/light duty trucks) a single brand.

"Just to help you read between the lines. What Mark is saying is,
GM builds trucks, Ford builds trucks, GM sells more trucks.
Posted by: GMSRGREAT | Oct 1, 2018 8:35:06 AM"

That's just how it reads through your Gm tinted glasses. Gm may very well have sold more trucks, (we will know when the quarterly report is released) but for williams to make a point of how Ford "umbrellas" the F-series in its sales report is just a petty cheap-shot being that he never makes that same point on how GM or Ram "umbrella" their fullsize offerings in their sales report be it monthly of quarterly. Just saw it and called it that's all.....

GM, Ram and Ford have reported truck sales the same way for decades. The people who have problems with this are the ones that do not like the way the numbers come out.

Well, I gave GM a one-truck boost for September. Took delivery today of a 2019 Colorado Z71.

@Vulpine

We can't take a real "ride" in your truck, but give us a virtual ride with a few words. Is it everything you wanted when it was ordered?

Well, I gave GM a one-truck boost for September. Took delivery today of a 2019 Colorado Z71.


Posted by: Vulpine | Oct 1, 2018 8:21:31 PM

Congrats. A colleague of mine has a diesel Colorado and he loves it.

"We can't take a real "ride" in your truck, but give us a virtual ride with a few words. Is it everything you wanted when it was ordered?" ---- Posted by: papajim

Everything I wanted? No. It 'feels' too big. Oh, it's not that I haven't sat tall in a truck before; the Wrangler sits tall. But the width and length are, shall we say, uncomfortable for now.

That said, it rides very nicely and has good acceleration for its size. I will also note that this is the first 300hp vehicle I've owned so the feeling of power is stronger than I expected, though smoothed out nicely by the 8-speed automatic. (Needed something the wife could drive in the event of breakdown or other issue with our other vehicle. Being a one-car family for 10 years tends to emphasize those times when that car needs service and you need to go places.)

I could wish for a separate rear-view display to supplement the center mirror when driving. The tailgate is so tall that if someone tries to tailgate me in a sedan, all I see is their roof in the mirror. I've seen more than one full-sizer back into a car behind them simply because they don't know a car is sitting there. (Hmmm... maybe that's why so many people drop their tailgates while driving. Not for economy as they claim but simply so they can see. That said, I love the visibility at acute-angle intersections; I can't see nearly as well off the rear quarters from most other cars I've driven.

Guess I need to do a write-up on my own website.

@vulpine

The combination of the six speed and the 3.6 engine should be very smooth and strong. GM has build a lot of them and the early models got panned for having shift programming that felt too passive. Later on GM offered a shift software re-do under warranty. If the trans feels too squishy the dealer will fix it free of charge.

"The combination of the six speed and the 3.6 engine should be very smooth and strong. GM has build a lot of them and the early models got panned for having shift programming that felt too passive. Later on GM offered a shift software re-do under warranty. If the trans feels too squishy the dealer will fix it free of charge." ---- Posted by: papajim

Not worried about the way it shifts. I can actively count the gears while accelerating, which means it is marginally sharper than the 9-speed in the Jeep. Don't see where either one will have issues.

Oh, did buy with Tow/Haul mode as the truck will probably tow a trailer starting in the next year or two.

Kind of like those trucks with outside the frame gas tanks that would burn down in accidents....
Posted by: FullSize_only | Oct 1, 2018 7:53:22 AM

Or the the Bronco, Bronco II, and Explorer - all legendary for being so poorly designed suspension-wise that they roll over on command. Or how can we forget the decade of in-the-cab fuel tanks Ford used- famous for leaking fuel in the cab, exploding in the cab, leaking fumes into the cab, etc. But since Ford sales were pathetic compared to GM, they got a pass while the best selling GM trucks got all the TV attention. Nevermind the fact that Ford and Dodge trucks were burning as many or more people alive at the very same time.

Or the the Bronco, Bronco II, and Explorer - all legendary for being so poorly designed suspension-wise that they roll over on command. Or how can we forget the decade of in-the-cab fuel tanks Ford used- famous for leaking fuel in the cab, exploding in the cab, leaking fumes into the cab, etc. But since Ford sales were pathetic compared to GM, they got a pass while the best selling GM trucks got all the TV attention. Nevermind the fact that Ford and Dodge trucks were burning as many or more people alive at the very same time.
Posted by: Frank | Oct 3, 2018 2:25:16 AM


Yes thank you. I get SO tired of everyone picking on GM for their past while ignoring the decades of deadly Ford defects that everyone conveniently ignores. I mean, it took Ford a decade before they finally recalled all the vehicles with defect cruise control circuits that caused them to spontaneously combust and burn families alive in their homes for years. They were caught red handed with the Explorer and its deadly decade of rollovers that Ford deceivingly blamed on Firestore tires when in reality engineers warned management were unsafe because of unsafe suspension designs. Heck, Ford values profits over the lives of their customers so much that they were only going to do a regional recall for deadly door latch defects while knowing that would leave the majority of vehicles on the road with a deadly defect. Ford still hasn't even addressed the brake failure issues with the F-150.... is it no surprise Ford is LAST in voluntary recalls among auto manufacturers. They would rather let people die than voluntarily fix their deadly vehicles.

@Papajim: By the way, the Colorado is an 8-speed automatic, not a 6-speed. First post is up, by the way. (No picture yet.)



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