Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4
Words and Photos by Mike Levine, Dyno Chart Courtesy of K&N Filters

Eight-cylinder engines are slowly being snuffed out, as manufacturers shift their focus to fuel-sipping cars and smaller, more powerful motors, but they’re still a popular and necessary choice in full-size pickups. There’s nothing -- yet -- that can tow and haul as capably as a V-8.

With the writing on the wall, though -- in the guise of CAFE standards and inevitable hikes in gas prices -- truckmakers are having to work some serious technical magic to wring more efficiency out of V-8 engines to keep them viable and competitive.

The old axiom that “there’s no replacement for displacement” is no longer as relevant as it once was. We’re entering the age of smaller, lighter, more powerful eight-cylinder motors, where the spotlight will shift from quasi-big-block mills with 6.0-liter-plus displacements to V-8 engines in the 4.0- to 5.0-liter range.

That’s where Toyota’s all-new 4.6-liter i-Force V-8 comes in, in the marginally freshened 2010 Tundra. It’s smaller than the 276-horsepower, 4.7-liter V-8 (313 pounds-feet of torque) it replaces, but stronger, lighter and more efficient. The new engine is paired with a new six-speed automatic transmission, and together they’re expected to get up to 20 mpg on the highway.

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

Part of the engine’s appeal is its 310 hp and 327 pounds-feet of torque. Those are the best power ratings per liter of any midlevel half-ton V-8. Toyota is hitting those numbers by applying many of the same technologies found in the Tundra’s 381-hp, 5.7-liter i-Force V-8, which makes 401 pounds-feet of torque. The dual-overhead-cam 4.6-liter V-8 uses dual Variable Valve Timing to precisely control the intake and exhaust valves for better engine performance across all rpm. The old 4.7-liter only had single VVT, for the intake side of the cam.

We got our hands on a preproduction 2010 Tundra Double Cab 4x4 SR5 with the 4.6-liter V-8 and put it through a range of tests suitable for a mid-range half-ton pickup.

Toyota says the 2010 Tundra refresh is a face-lift, but you have to look very carefully to spot the exterior changes. The three-bar grille has been replaced by a beefier two-bar grille, the lower front bumper is different and there are updated taillamps in back. There are interior changes too, but you’ve got us if you can tell what they are. The big-for-bigness’-sake climate and audio controls remain, and the materials are still very plasticky and dark. This is one Toyota product that could learn some best practices on interior design from Chrysler (never thought we’d say that).

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

The Tundra’s a heavy beast, weighing in at about 5,400 pounds. The old 4.7-liter got the job done moving it, but it never generated excitement or high levels of confidence while driving around town or on the freeway, especially compared to the monster 5.7-liter powertrain, which begged for a load from the moment you blipped the throttle.

The 4.6-liter reminds us a lot of the 5.7-liter, but it’s more casual in going about its duties. Sure, less power has a lot to do with that feeling, but Toyota has also geared the 4.6-liter Tundra’s rear differential completely differently. The 4.6-liter Tundra has a final drive ratio choice of either a fuel-efficient 3.90 or a mixed-use 4.10, whereas the 5.7-liter only comes with a launch-optimized 4.30 rear ring and pinion that’s perfect for heavy towing. Our truck had the 3.90 rear axle.

We took the 4.6-liter Tundra to Irwindale Speedway’s eighth-mile drag strip to measure how its zero to 60 mph times compared to our gut feel. To check out its work ethic, we loaded it up with 1,000 pounds of salt (25 40-pound bags) in the cargo box.

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

The Tundra is known for computerized intrusioneering, so we manually disabled vehicle stability control, traction control and the virtual limited-slip differential (it's actually precise application of the ABS system to reduce wheel slippage instead of a mechanical locker or clutch pack) before our runs so the truck wouldn’t automatically cut throttle or apply the brakes. All the runs were conducted in two-wheel drive.

Using zero rollout, but brake torquing for launch, our VBOX-instrumented testing at Irwindale yielded a zero to 60 mph run of 9.16 seconds, with an eighth of a mile clicked off in 11.14 seconds at 66 mph in third gear. With the driver, a full tank of fuel and a true half-ton load in the bed, we were within a couple hundred pounds of the max 1,255-pound load rating indicated in the door jamb for the Tundra’s Bridgestone Dueler H/T P275/65R18 tires.

Even with the electronic nannies turned off, the Tundra exhibited noticeable lag at launch until about 3,200 rpm, or about a second, at which point the power really kicked in. Still, that pause limited performance for the first few feet rolling down the strip. Once it found its groove and hooked up, the Tundra felt very confident down the track with the heavy cargo, finishing the eighth-of-a-mile run in third gear. Shifts points were around 5,400 rpm, falling back to 3,800 rpm with tow/haul mode off.

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

We unloaded the salt from the bed and repeated the same tests, with noticeable improvements in performance. The Tundra hit 60 mph in only 7.97 seconds and ran 660 feet in 10.56 seconds at 69.37 mph. For comparison, during unloaded tests in our 2008 Light-Duty Shootout, the 5.7-liter Tundra yielded a zero to 60 mph time of 7.16 seconds. At Irwindale, the unloaded 4.6-liter Tundra finished the eighth-mile in third gear, with the same launch lag we experienced when the truck was loaded. The shift points, however, moved slightly higher, shifting at 5,800 and dropping back to 4,100 rpm. Without all the salt in back, the ride was a bit wilder, though still confident and true down the track.

One interesting thing we picked up on while running the Tundra at Irwindale was how well Toyota has insulated the Tundra’s cabin from engine noise. Sound levels remained low during all the runs, so motor thrash wasn’t a distraction. The subdued sound levels worked well with the engine’s constant application of torque to provide extra driving confidence in the powertrain. Standing outside and watching the truck run down the track was a different experience. The 4.6-liter exhaust note is strong and smooth to observers.

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

Of course, zero to 60 runs can only tell so much, so we took the Tundra to the performance-obsessed staff at K&N headquarters in Riverside, Calif., to see what the torque curve looked like across the rev range. Essentially, it’s flat from 3,500 rpm to 5,900 rpm, with a slight peak at about 4,500 rpm. Toyota says peak torque is expected at 3,400 rpm, so that result is a bit unusual. With the transmission in third gear, max rear-wheel torque was measured at 266 pounds-feet. In second gear, it was virtually identical: 265 pounds-feet. Rear-wheel horsepower builds steadily until about 5,600 rpm, as Toyota says it should, and peaks at 262 hp (both measured at the rear wheels instead of the crank that’s used in the Tundra’s advertised 310-hp, 327-pounds-feet rating). The engine continues to pull with only a slight drop until 5,950 rpm, when it bumps into the rev limiter.

Toyota expects the 4.6-liter V-8 to provide the 2010 Tundra with a 15/20 mpg city/highway fuel economy rating from the EPA. That’s up from 14/17 mpg for the 4.7-liter and only 1 mpg less than special fuel-efficient pickups from Ford and GM. Much of that improvement can be chalked up to the fact that the new six-speed transmission keeps the same first-to-fifth gear ratios as the old five-speed, but adds a new second overdrive gear with a .59:1 ratio for optimal highway fuel economy, as well as the 3.90 rear axle.

Road Test Review: 2010 Toyota Tundra 4.6-Liter V-8 Double Cab 4x4

In our experience, driving a 211-mile loop unloaded through West Los Angeles to the Pacific Coast Highway, up to Ventura, Calif., and back to West L.A. on the 101 freeway, we were able to achieve 16 mpg combined with the 4.6-liter -- a tolerable number considering LA's stop-and-go surface streets and we were keeping up with late night traffic traveling at more than 70 mph on the return portion of the trip.

The rest of the Tundra remains the same. Ride quality still suffers greatly when the truck is unloaded, making it very uncomfortable at times on some of L.A.’s notorious freeways. We like the Tundra when there’s payload in the bed or a trailer hanging off the back. In those cases, it’s a completely different pickup suitable to just about any task the other half-tons can do, if not more.

The 4.6-liter has a lot of ground to make up for Toyota. When the 2007 Tundra debuted with a choice of two V-8 powertrains, Toyota expected its then-new 5.7-liter V-8 to make up about 50 to 60 percent of the mix. Today, it makes up 80 percent of sales. That’s because the power-challenged legacy 4.7-liter V-8 drove buyers to the bigger engine. Only 13 percent of Tundra buyers opt for that engine; the remaining 7 percent choose the 236-hp, 4.0-liter V-6 with 266-pounds-feet of torque.

“We’ve been underrepresented,” said Bob Carter, Toyota Motor Sales USA vice president and general manager. “If you look at the full-size truck segment, about 20 percent is small V-8. We feel very confident that with the new 4.6-liter V-8, you’re going to see us become slightly overrepresented in the mix.”

Toyota 4.6-Liter V-8 Comparison Chart

The 4.6-liter Tundra is the first Toyota to offer water-cooled, computer-controlled exhaust gas recirculation, which allows for more accurate control of combustion temperatures through more of the power band for a wider, flatter torque curve, as verified in our dyno run at K&N.

The new 4.6-liter V-8 can tow up to 500 pounds more than its predecessor, depending on cab configuration. A 2009 4.7-liter V-8, regular cab, two-wheel-drive Tundra was rated to tow up to 8,500 pounds. A 2010 4.6-liter V-8, regular cab, two-wheel drive Tundra is rated to tow up to a healthy 9,000 pounds. That’s capable enough to handle most half-ton towing needs, and only 100 pounds less than the maximum tow rating of a 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 with a premium 5.7-liter Hemi V-8.

Overall, the 2010 4.6-liter V-8 Tundra’s biggest challenges will come from the Ford 4.6-liter three-valve V-8 (9,500-pound maximum towing with 3.55 rear axle, 4x2 crew cab) and GM’s 5.3-liter two-valve V-8 (9,700-pound maximum towing with 3.42 rear axle, 4x2 extended cab). Both of those engines come equipped with six-speed transmissions, like the 4.6-liter. Having driven all three powertrains, the 4.6-liter Tundra stacks up well with them in terms of power, refinement and efficiency. Depending on pricing, which hasn’t been announced yet, the 4.6-liter could turn out to be a very good deal for half-ton truck buyers looking to save money but retain lots of capability.

The 2010 Toyota Tundra with all-new 4.6-liter V-8 goes on sale later this month.

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Specifications
Drivetrain layout: Front-engine, RWD or 4WD
Engine type: 1UR V-8, aluminum block/heads
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves/cyl., chain drive (dual VVTi)
Displacement: ci/cm 3:281.2/4608
Bore & stroke: 3.70 x 3.27
Compression ratio: 10.2:1
Horsepower: 310 hp @ 5,600 rpm
Torque:
327 pounds-feet @ 3,400 rpm
Hp/L: 67.4
Transmission: A760E six-speed auto

  • 1st    3.52:1
  • 2nd     2.04:1
  • 3rd     1.40:1
  • 4th    1.00:1
  • 5th    0.72:1
  • 6th     0.59:1
  • Rev.  3.22:1

Ring and pinion: 3.90:1, 4.10:1
Fuel efficiency: 15/20 mpg city/highway (preliminary numbers)
Emissions cert.:  ULEV II

Comments

How does the Tundra 5.7 biggest and best do with a 16,000 lb Roofers Special Load of Shingles on a 4,000 lb Dump trailer.
Can it Hang?
4x4 long bed double?
Can there be a 4x4 long bed crew max?
And more leaf springs...

All you rednecks bashing on the tundra just because you know that Toyota built a true full-size pick up that is just as good if not better than the other ford, dodge and chevys. You guys are just jealous of the tundra cause the junk you own right now is crap so all you can do is bash the japanese. Yea toyota is a japanese company but that doesnt mean that all the profit from the tundra goes to japan. It is used here in north america to open new plants and other research. Does all the profit from the cars that gm sells in china come to the U.S? If it did, maybe they wouldnt be going bankrupt now. You say that the tundra sucks bla bla bla, atleast it isnt recalled every 2 months or back into the dealer for warranty work every week or have its tranny go out and have you stranded.

So all you so-called smart College Grads bragging how smart you are for buying a Tundra..I guess you forgot the major issues Toyota had with these trucks..blowing out the camshafts,cracking tailgates,transmission problems...hmmm and you think you are sooo smart..hmm..I question that....guess you like a rough riding truck with blown engines...

I for one am proud to be only a high school grade 12 educated and graduate..thats it...And I own and started my own business,and since I was 26 I was making big money..now 9 years later I am richer and smarter business wise than a so-called "college grad""oohhh...you have a diploma and drink your wine and sniff your Tundra's exhaust touting you are a college grad and you know better....sure you do..get real...I drive a new Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi,longest lasting full size trucks,Chrysler has the fewest recalls of any major brand and when they do it's usually for a computer reprogram(thanks Mercedes for your pos technology..glad they are gone now )And yes with Toyota the profits go to Japan and the majority stay there,not all return to the States..Asians cars are becoming a snob brand as people perceived BMW to be,so I will buy an American nameplate..I owned a Lexus and the engine blew up due to sludge@10,000mi(toyota denied it later had a huge recall)Never again.I drove a Tundra and I couldnt live with its rough, rough ride..I will stick with my Ram and my new Challenger SRT- 8 and have no snob appeal for me....College Grad..LOL !!Like you really know any better,go to starbucks and sniff your exhaust .. and tell everyone you are a College Grad...good for you ,you dont know any better when buying a car/truck than a kid in grade 1..

TJ is it. I own a Tundra 2007 Model. I am a college graduate, and a straight A student through high school. I have a wonderful job, and really like my Toyota. Don't talk down to someone you don't even know, syaing we "took the ged test a half dozen times". I take some offense to that, and I don't particularly think you failed high school either, just very rude.

It's comical to read the whole "buy American" thing and dissing Toyota b/c it's a Japanese company. The fact is that Tundras are assembled in Texas and Indiana. Fords are for the most part built in Dearborne but also parts in Canada. GM's are starting to be assembled in Mexico? Parts for all are purchased all over the world.

I'm after the best truck for my needs. I've narrowed my choice down to the Tundra and the F150 and don't think I'll go wrong with either. And being from Texas I'll be happy to be supporting factory jobs in San Antonio if I go the Tundra route.

I recently bought a 90 ram trx4 crew cab. After looking at all other makes the dodge to me is the best truck you can buy. I have driven at high speeds{dont speed} the handling is very stable. Im getting17-18 mph with big hemi. The interior puts the toyota to shame. Toyota you can do better than that i hope !!.

Just remember, that the tundra has a Japanese Chief Engineer, a Jap design team, etc.
All the high paying jobs go to the Japs and the low paying assembly jobs go to Americans.
So for those of you happy with $25.00 per hour jobs for yourselves and your kids, keep buying the Jap stuff.
Cars and Trucks will soon not be designed and built in American anymore, just as has happen in England.
Is that a real design and built in American truck.....
I THINK NOT
Or buy a Ford F250 Deiasel truck that gets 14/18MPG, has a payload of 3200ibs and a towing weight of 15,000ibs. That is a truck for real truck work.
Or buy a Tunda and race down the street with your lawnmower in the back

20mpg....blah blah blah. Big deal. This truck offers nothing more than any other truck out there. Might be reliable but take a look at the puny bolts and hardware that tie this thing together. Everything has been cost cut. Super thin steel, 3/4 of a frame. Toyota forgot to put the 4th side on that frame and then riveted the thing together. Ever heard of mig welding. I find it humorous how the thing twists and bends on anything but a smooth road. You should see the gap open up between the box and the bumper when you drop a trailer on the hitch. Scarry. A powerful engine is only a small portion of what makes a truck a truck. I'll take a few less HP and lb of torque a stick with the rock solid F150.

I think anything less than the 5.7 liter engine in the Tundra is going to be a dissappointment. I have a 2007 with the 5.7 and the power and torque are good, although the tranny was replaced at 36000 miles. But Toyota "stepped up to the plate" and just replaced it with no arguments.

Speaking of crap trucks.. ahem.. front page news of pickuptrucks.com..

GM has issued a recall for 185,903 GMT 355 series midsize pickup trucks, including the 2004-09 Chevrolet Colorado and 2004-09 GMC Canyon twins and badge-engineered 2006-08 Isuzu I-Series, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

And the parts for the 185k vehicles won't be available until February of 2010.

And there was another GM recall last year for the exposed wiring for the heated windshield wiper fluid..something around 200,000 vehicles was it? Combine the both of those, and its no wonder why GM is bankrupt, with over 400k crappy trucks made in Mexico and Canada being recalled.

My Tundra was made in Indiana...by U.S. workers, sold by U.S. salespoeple, and serviced by U.S. mechanics.

And you call Toyota's crap? Give me a break

"Real men don't drive jap trucks!!"

I drive my U.S. made Tundra because it is a quality vehicle that meets my family's needs. There are 4,000 US citizens who receive good wages to manufacture the Tundra in San Antonio, Texas. The engines are built in Georgia. It is not a "jap truck." Toyota is the world's largest maker of cars and trucks because of their dedicated and systemic efforts to produce quality vehicles. I hope that Ford, GM, and Chrysler will continue on their path to produce similar quality vehicles - for we , as consumers, will all benefit.

FordTrucks77
Ford products are a piece of red neck shits. i wouldn't even let my dogs ride in them. I be ashamed to be seen in one of these low quality cheap so-called trucks from red necks America. smart people buy quality and reliability and NOT government bailout piece of shits trucks from America. So kiss my ass if you don't like it. White trash.

I have had many Toyota vehicles and they have always been high quality. The political payback of the UAW of GM and Dodge has convinced me not to buy any American Union made vehicle again. I could care less about The Big Threes future.

I have a master degree and bought a Tundra. I just like the truck. Drives great, looks great and to be honest I'm disgusted that I my tax dollars are being used to bail out a company that ran itself into the ground! I feel like I already own a GM car and just don't have access to it. Good for Ford going it alone and telling Obama and congress to keep their hand-outs. Ford makes a great truck but when I compared the overall driving experience and value it was a Toyota for me. Could not be happier with my Tundra.

FordTrucks77, Did you make all that up just now?? I am a Dodge truck owner...and have been loyal for quite some time, so I am not a "toyota lover". But, do you really think thats what this is all about? Yuppies that want to feel like a real american? You sound like YOU may have some personal identity issues that you tie into the vehicle you drive.

Ever think a hard working american, who is about to lay there money on the line, has the right to choose who manufacturers there pickup truck? Toyota gained a lot of popularity, and rightfully so, from there great small pickup trucks. I could see why someone who had a Toyota 4x4 from the mid 80's, would want to invest in a Tundra for there full-size truck needs.

You sound a little confused, and you may just sound less American then some guy driving a Tundra. I bet when you pull up next to a Tundra in your truck you "Rev it up" and automatically don't like the guy driving the Tundra, and want to challenge him on the road right??

I doubt I am not far from the truth. A truck is for work man, its not personal. Stop identifying your manhood with a giant piece of sh*t. Today, a Toyota Tundra is built just as American as a Ford, Chrysler, or GM. Don't be TOO loyal to these companies. They don't give 2 sh*ts about you lol.

Hmmmm. I don't recall getting rich and buying anything American. Sorry, I make $480,000 per year not including investments. I drive a Lambo not a Corvette, wear Rolex, eat sushi, and wear Italian suits.

Sorry, nothing American about that!

Everyone has different taste and dreams. Some dream of owning a diesel Chevy or Ford, 12" lift, mudders, so they can try to tow a double wide trailer and "piss" on Toyotas.

Others have different visions. Like selling a full size pickup to Americans in the United States of America! Building auto factories in the U.S and building cars without labor unions. Running a company that has pretty looking balance sheet and not flying in corporate jets to ask for federal bail out money.

Stop crying! I'll drive the Toyota and you can drive what you like.

I just took delivery of a 2010 Tundra 5.6L Crew cab. I have owned a 2007 Tundra before.. The last 40 years before the Tundras I was Chev loyal. Until repeated trips to the dealership for bad drain plugs, burned out controller boards, etc, etc..

The Tundra(s) have been the best, most reliable truck I have owned, period. I am no expert, but I know what I like and that is reliability. When I spend $40K on a truck, it needs to run right from start to finish.

My company owns a Dodge Durango it's 5 years old. I have aways had GM and Dodge products. We tried to get leasing or a loan from Ford, Dodge and GM under one of our corporations which is 9 years old with great credit. They all wanted a co maker along with the corp plus three years of tax returns and P&L. We said no. This corp has great credit but no history with other car or truck loans but has leasing and net 30 accounts reporting at 80 on D&B and the other reporting agencys. We went over to Toyota and filled out an app and were approved in one day for a 49,000 Tundra Limited off road loaded truck. No co maker, no tax returns, just proof of our tax id number and corporate status with the state of NY. That was it. On a lease with the first payment on delivery of the truck. We did what was good for our company. If the other 3 gave us a break we would have gone with one of them. The Tundra is made in Texas and the engine in Alabama. How Amercian can you get. The company is putting money in the pockets of these US wokers. Others are closing plants down. We tried but we had to do what worked for us. Maybe next time. But we might like this truck who knows. We have it for three years on a lease. I guess Toyota needs to sell Tundras and the other 3 are tight with the credit because of their current sitution.

I need to get me one of those Calvin peeing on Ford decals. The new gen Tundra is currently the sexiest truck on the market, end of story. You want to bash on Japanese? Bash on the Honda Ridgeline.

Just bought this truck today and like Mcdonalds says, " I'm lovin it". Midnight blue color, video camera showin da back is what i'm sayin. I've owned a ford, Gmc, Chevy, Dodge, and this 1 surpasses them all, hands down. Peace 2 America and big up 2 Godzilla.

What a piece of crap. Does Toyota really think they are going to steal market-share from Ford or GM on full-size trucks? This truck sucks with it's plastic frame, cheap interior, low payload capacity. Toyota needs to call it quits and stick to making the cheap plastic cars that they are famous for. I wonder what will be the first things to break, or be recalled on this junk????? Real men don't drive jap trucks!! Sell your crap truck in japan to yuppies that want to "feel like real amercan"!

Posted by: FordTrucks77 | Apr 11, 2009 6:48:08 AM


Hey everybody, I think Mr "Fordtrucks77" just had a brain
Anurism. Everyones babbling about American made this that and the other. All of the self rightous D3 people can't admit that their so called American made trucks have so much non American stuff in them. When there was talk about Dodge and Nissan co-building the next Titan at the Dodge plant, where was that... MEXICO ( hello, what's American about that!) I'd love to buy all American, made in America, with American parts , but that's just not realistic. Look around your homes at things like your 60" big screens, other electronics and just other things in your homes. Are they ALL American? Don't puff out your chest and start waving your flags if you're no darn better than the next guy.

Is it me or does the front end look WAY bigger than the back end. Looks likes it;s going to tip over.

just bought a 2010 tundra d-cab with the 4.6 engine love the truck, but i can not get use to the electronic gas pedal and six speed trans. around town it feels like there is hesitation when you hit the gas and the trany seems like it wants to up shift all the time so you get lag (dont like that) i dont drive with a heavy foot so i dont know if its me or that is just the way it is with this truck. p.s. on the highway the truck is great because its in the higher gear. any body have this same problem?

My bets on the Tundra! I laugh at you silly un-educated Pro- American Hillbillies. There not made in America and there reliability is horrible don't you get it? I'll be buying my second Tundra all I do is put tires on them and change the oil and wiper blades. You'll be taking your So-called American Junk to the dealer and they wo'nt even know how to fix it. Read Consumer Reports it's all there. I hate to bash American Co's but the big fat union cats and greedy American exec's ruined there own destiny. Reliability . Reliability. Reliability>

i bought american until gm went under and stuck me for $50,000 in bad bonds. I asked them to send me a coupon for a
new duramax truck. I will never buy american again toyota backs their products. The tundra truck with 4.6 is a truck worth buying.

When my FORD (Found On Road Dead) is in a shop I don’t get paid. When my FORD (Fix Or Repair Daily) died on me in the woods I just went and bought Tundra Rock Warrior. Now I know what RELABITIY really means. I cannot sell my F150 because its resale value is near zero, while Tundras & Tachomas of the same year sale for more then a half of their original price. Why Toyota has such a high resale value? And please! I’ll never buy a truck from a company that takes my tax money to operate.

I have owened all types of products made in the usa and elsewhere. What I go by is the frequency of repair in the case of vehicles and I have purchased over a dozen new both japanese and american. The japanese I have not had to fix and the american and european I have had to fix especially the american. The american I wont buy at all but I am very happy some fools will because that keeps the sellers of the japanese vehicles honest. Thank you fools keep up the good work.

wow you girls are sooooo vicious when it comes to the economy and college grads......anyone ever stand back and realize that our nation has been deliberately transformed from a manufacturing nation to a consumer nation? Jimminie cricket girls stop bickering like a bunch of Midol deprived biatches and look at the big picture.....


We've been hood winked by a nation run by progressives. So our economy will suck as long as we have Keynesian monetary policies and and your still licking wounds about whether college grads are smart or not..... so grade school folks....... Oh and why are Mercedes and Toyotas have higher quality then a Gummet Motors POS?
And why is it Gm and Crapler cannot get a profitable business model running and Ford can? yeah more to think about girls......ok now we return to your regular programming "whinning 101".....lol....

I owned an 07 with the 5.7 and it had it's share of problems. Nothing real serious, but lot's and lot's of small things that I thought were first model year glitches such as radio, rattles and squeaks, terrible ride unloaded, vibrations at speed etc. We waited until 09 to buy another thinking they got all the bugs out. Boy, were we surprised. Not only were all the bugs still there, but now a new set of bugs. Most notably was the failure of the tranny pulling a 3500# camper a hundred miles west of Denver. Had to cancel the vacation. Flew 800 miles back to get the truck, bring it and the trailer home only to have the drive shaft snap twenty miles from home. Sorry Toyota, you and I are parting company. Only problem is I'm stuck with the truck for now. Ford dealer offered half of what I paid for trade, Chevy dealer was even less having an 08 on his lot that he claims he can't give away.

My grandpa got tundra and very happy with it. I’m glad he stopped telling me “Buy American”. As soon as my ford lease expires I get tundra too. “Rock Warrior” likely.

heads will warp@70k,frame WILLcrack.From the makers of WW2. Buy North AMERICAN.

Did you know that for Half ton trucks, the Toyota Tundra is the only one to be 100% made in the USA. And you may be thinking now "well all of the parts come from Japan or some other country". Actually, the percentage of parts made in the USA is higher than Ford, Chevy, and Dodge. 75% of the parts that Ford and Chevy buy are from the USA. 53% of the parts that Dodge buys are from the USA. And 80% of the parts that Toyota buys are from the USA! So in reality, who do you think is the more "Domestic" truck? Sure Toyota's roots are in Japan. But the mere fact that Toyota is supporting the American economy than Ford, Chevy, or Dodge should show something. And if you want to check my numbers, go ahead. Another fun fact: When Toyota stopped production of the the Tundra this past summer for a month... they kept paying their employees. And on the flip side: When Ford, Chevy, and Dodge took that government money and they stopped production for a month or so... Their employees didn't get paid jack. Some food for thought.

i dont own a tundra but i do own a tacoma and by all means the tocoma is the best light duty truck out their and is only surpassed by the gand daddy of the all the TUNDRA!!!! The tundra is the best full size pick-up on the market and it blows chevy, dodge, nissan, and ford clean off the map. To all of you people who hate the TUNDRA b/c it is made by a foriegn automaker just show how stupid you are. You hate the TUNDRA (any foriegn automaker) because they have down what no other american automaker can or probably never can do which is make a fuel efficient vehicle that blows all american automakers out of the water. BY THE WAY HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW THE IF YOU OWN A GM OR DODGE THAT THE GOVERNTMENT NOW OWNS YOUR VEHICLE, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL. The only other truck that I would consider buying( not likely at all if any) would be a ford b/c ford figured out a way to not be owned by the governtment!!!!!!

I have a 2008 Tundra Double Cab with the 5.7L V8 with 57,000 miles on it. I love this truck! My previous truck was a 2008 GMC Sierra Classic with the 5.3L V8. I liked this truck too, but had many problems with it within the first 6 months. I had front and rear brake pulsation problems that kept coming back. The drive shaft had whining noises which they did fix after a couple of trys. Then I had a sound in my steering column that sounded like I had a loose front shock that GM could never figure out and would not do anything with it.

Buy Ameican? I wish. My GMC Sierra was built in Canada and my Tundra was engineered and built in the USA.

Tundra is a good truck. Ford has a good truck, probably better at getting dirty. Tundra is for those that play more, Ford for those that work more. GMC and Dodge are ridiculous companies altogether.....whatever they make is horrible over the long haul. There is a reason that 70% of Land Cruisers and 4Runners are still on the road...since their inception! That's incredible considering Ford trucks have 62% since 1970. Tundra has only been around for so long, it needs to build a clientele and work out the quirks. Ford has enough repeat business that they understand what is needed. I have a 4Runner and am considering a Tundra and always love when people say "buy american." Huh? lol. The 4Runner has more parts, including its engine made in america than any other SUV. Even gm, dodge or ford. Why? Because the three "big" american companies buy cheap crap made in mexico, plain and simple. Also, they buy from china. Do yourself a favor and stop judging without the appropriate information. Otherwise you just appear stupid, but then again you're probably used to it considering you're attacking complete strangers online. lol. Have a good week people.

I own a Chevy pick up, have put 2 transmissions, 2 heater cores, 2 engines, 2 computers, 2 windshields, and heavy duty super springs... over 10 yrs.. have a 1999 Tacoma SR5 double cab with 590,456 miles and never had to replace any of the things mentioned on the other vehicle.. I bought a 5.7 tundra.. and love kicking ford and Chevy's and yes the dodge hemorrhoid off Texas highways.. all they see is dust..

toyoda;NOT AMERICAN and never will be.f-cken WANNABE!! JAP

At least the Tundra has brakes that can actually stop the truck in a reasonable distance, unlike my Silverado's wimpy, dangerous brakes.

Toyota would sell more than 4000 units per month if the Tundra was up to par with everyone else. I also hear this figure from a dealer here in my home town (Joplin Mo.), 1 out of every 3 buyers of a Tundra is a man. He said they sold more Tundras to women than anything else. Idk what that means but you all can think about it. I personally would never own one for the simple fact that they are butt ass ugly. But everyone can do whatever they want.

It’s just a truck, a workhorse, not a chick magnet, I never cared how it looks inside or outside or who made it. What I care about is reliability. When my truck is in a shop I don’t get paid. That’s why I got tundra in 2007. I have about 90K miles and not a single break-down! That’s what I call an American truck

tundra's are good at accelerating!

You think so, Scott? That hasn't been my experience. They seem kinda slow compared to a lot of other cars/trucks to me...

-Daniel

when toyota starts building a real pick up...i will buy one...

but 4 now i will buy Dodges and Chevys.

Looking for pros & cons for buying a Toyota Tundra 2010 Double Cab, 5.7 liter, 4x4 with towing package for towing a 7000 lbs travel trailer. Not interested in where it's made, how much money Japan makes on it, what I do for living and highest level of education. I just wanna know about the truck and what other manufacturers/models would be good to compare it to, to make a good decision. Also, has anyone with a Tundra had the recall fix to the accelerator pedal and did that fix it. Thanks guys.

I am currently looking for a truck and will most likely go with Tundra. Why? First, I currently drive a Silverado 4x4 that I've had for the last ten years but only has 112K miles. In that time period, my slip yoke has gone out, main rear seal is leaking oil, drive shaft was replaced and the fuel pump was replaced three times. The truck has gone off road a handful of times and is mostly used for just driving to the office. Does the Tundra have the best hp rating? 5.7 close 4.6 no Best MPG? 5.7 no 4.6 close, Best resell value? YES The question is if all the domestic trucks are better then why does the Tundra have a higher resell? Simple answer, they are built to last and as the other guy stated, you never have to take them to the shop. Remember, the domestic big 3 commercials always say "best in initial quality" based on the fact after three years they fall apart. The worst financial investment you can make is buying a new vehicle. Most truck owners do in fact trade their trucks in every three years to buy another new vehicle which is like throwing money away. Any truck will last three years, so if you are going to trade the truck in within a few years after buying new then buy what you want because they will all last. However, I plan on keeping the truck for another ten years if I can afford the gas price hikes that are around corner. Therefore, I'm going with Tundra.

This article is well written and useful for the truck owner who intends to buy a medium-load towing truck for the purposes of racing it with a load ful of salt on a perfectly paved road.

The Toyota 4.6L has been out a while now and having driven it, I can say I am pleased with it's overall power, reasonable gas mileage, styling and reasonable tow capacity. The average truck buyer will be better suited to a larger engine but for someone in my situation it works perfectly.

I tow a 16'x8' tandem axle work trailer to a job site about once a week and leave it on site til the job is done. The Tundra 4.6 L allows me to pull it with power to spare, in awesome style, with a Toyota quality engine, enjoy fuel economy commuting to work accross town all week and enjoy resale value unmatched by all but cummins diesel trucks when I sell.

In turbulent economic times screw buying american, go with a smart decision.

Education arguements on a truck review article? give your heads a shake "gentlemen"

I just bought a 5.7 Tundra,looking forward to REALIABILITY and will be selling my 08 Sierra, only has 50K Ran out of gas 3 times, Ran out of oil, Suspension for Payload is Saggy!! Runs Rough, Lost heat on Pass.side... not impressed at all!!

By the way? How many of you have an RCA TV in your home? Most likely a Samsung or Sony.

What a debate ... but I just have to jump in.

I grew up a Ford man, and recently had a couple of decked out Explorer Limited's (2006 and 2007), and for work had a series of 6 GMC Sierra SLT pick-ups till 2007, then got into a 2008 Tundra, and I'll never look back.

The Explorer's were a complete joke ... and nothing is more frustrating that when the dealer says "we just can't seem to fix it ... try it again and let us know what happens." Thats really assuring when it just decides to not run some days ... and this happened to both the 2006 and 2007! So no more Fords in my garage.

The GMC Siera's seemed better, far better actually, but once I got behind the wheel of the Tundra I found what a real truck could be like.

The Tundra has far more power, more towing capacity, better transmission, and more space in the rear seat (crew max cab) ... and the list goes on and on.

As for repairs ... over 60,000 miles and I'm still on the original set of brakes, and the only time I see the dealer is for oil changes.

So now I've got my eye on a new Sequoia for my wife ... as we trade in her Escalade. To compare reliablity ... we are on a first-name basis with the Service Advisor at the Cadillac dealership due to our many visits.

I've driven a Toyota, and I've been convereted.

As per my personal experience and my friends & coworkers Toyotas are the most reliable and resellable trucks money can buy.

Walt, some of us rednecks are highly educated. Redneck does not mean uneducated! I'll debate global economics with you any day of the week, although it probably would not be too much of a debate, because I agreed with most of your post.

There is nothing unpatriotic about buying a Toyota. Globalization has changed my old "buy USA" attitude. There is no more line between foreign and domestic automobiles anymore. I have owned every brand, worked them out to their max, and keep going back to Toyota.



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