Recall Alert: 2009-10 Ram Pickups

Recall Alert: 2009-10 Ram Pickups
By Stephen Markley

Chrysler has issued a recall for 24,177 Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge vehicles, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The models include the 2010 Chrysler Sebring, 2010 Dodge Avenger, 2010 Dodge Nitro, 2009-2010 Dodge Ram, 2010 Jeep Commander, 2010 Jeep Grand Cherokee and 2010 Jeep Liberty.

These vehicles could have been built with an improperly formed or missing brake booster input rod retaining clip, the NHTSA says. This could have serious consequences for drivers; without this component, the brakes could fail without warning and cause a crash.

Chrysler says both light-duty and heavy-duty Rams are included in the recall.

Chrysler will replace the brake booster input rod retaining clip for free. Owners may contact Chrysler at 800-853-1403 or the NHTSA vehicle safety hot line at 888-327-4236.

[Source: Cars.com]

Comments

Isn't this the 5th time the 2009 Ram was recalled? Just wondering.

It's just a floor mat problem:)

At least with the Chrysler recalls ,its usually a small number of vehicles effected not like other companies millions or hundreds of thousands...Good to see Chrysler stands behind their vehicles and is quick to recall .

Supplier problem...the part is already assembled when delivered. Glad they caught it in just a few short months.

@ Rusted 2005 Toyoyta. That is because they only have a small share of the market. I like Dodge but when you don't sell near as many vehicles the recalls amounts are smaller. This is in regards to the truck market.

I suppose, then, by reason of these responses, that if the floor mats were the cause of this failure that everyone would be saying "See - Fiat buys Ram and look at what they've done". Thank God it wasn't the liner in the center console coming loose and causing that hemi to drop a valve or spin a bearing.

@rusted 2005 Toyota or what ever your real name is - here is a Chrysler recall for you. Bigger and more dangerous than any of Toyota's problems:
"NHTSA Investigating Fuel Tank Problem On 3 million 1993 to 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs

More in: Chrysler, Jeep, Recall

The NHTSA is investigating a potential problem involving plastic fuel tanks in 1993 to 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs where the fuel tank can become a drastic fire hazard in the event of a collision. In serveral incidents, the fuel filler neck has also split open, leading to fuel spills and fires. 172 crashes involving fires and 254 deaths are being linked to the possible recall. A petition for the defect has been placed into effect. Owners are urged to contact Chrysler directly at 1-800-835-1403 or visit their local dealer as soon as possible to take a look at the problem. "

Is my bias showing again:) LMFAO

Of course, your bias is showing again, but check this out.

Chevy Avalance vs Ram Cummings Diesel Dually!

You guys want the Ram to be in the tug of war, here you go.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKQR7zZrdY

hey lou: 3 million jeeps is fewer than 4 million toyotas, and i'd say the gas tank fire hazard is about the same danger as the gas pedal that gets stuck and can kill you. also, the gas tanks in all vehicles on the road outside of semis and such are made of plastic, metal gas tanks haven't been used in years- which is why you don't have rust buildup in your fuel filter anymore. as far as dodge not having a very big market share, they're heavy duty trucks make up a full thrid of those sold and on the road. how many heavy duty import pickups do you see in the world? oh, that's right. none.

@ Mark

This is more like the proper video! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B44NUuL3dRw


@Adam - any preventable death is a bad thing, but, there have been 19 deaths assoiciated with floor mat and/or accelleration problems with Toyotas. There has been 254 deaths with the Grand Cherokee.
A calm, skilled driver can deal with a stuck accellerator, no-one can deal with an exploding car!
The point I am ultimately trying to make is this: people are very eager to jump all over Toyota(or any rival brand) for any flaw or problem, and in the process, overlook, ignore, or downplay any problems their favorite brand has had.
There is not a single manufacturer who has not had a large recall.
Why do people slag Toyota for not having a HD pickup? If they did make one , you'd call it a POS anyway!
Compare apples to apples - RL Polk (Registrations to Sept'09)
Ram 1500 - 113,000
Tundra - 105,394
Difference = 7606 (thats not a huge difference)
2009 Total midsize sales
Dakota - 10,690
Tacoma - 111,824
Difference = 101,134 (now that is a huge difference)
If you are looking at "world" sales figures - the Toyota Hilux has sold over 12 million units .
As far as HD pickups in the world - that is an illogical statement to make as "full size" pickups are predominantly a North American phenomenon.


When you sell a very small amount of Vehicles you will get a small amounts of recalls. Makes total sense to stand by the few recalls/vehicles you sell.

D57H,

Did you see the Driveshaft break in half on the D-MAX. Hilarious, it looks like noodle driveshaft.

Wow, GM @ it's finest.

ya, thats dodge for you

Ya as if Ford is exempt from recalls!!!
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2009/ford/f_150/recalls/index.html

way to go on digging up the past recall

Recall Date: MAY 05, 2009 Component: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:BRAKE LIGHTS:SWITCH Model Affected: F-150 Potential Units Affected: 8735

At least the brakes are functioning correctly as opposed to the Chryco v2.0 recall

@Frank - I didn't have to dig it up. It was on the Truck Trend site a short while ago.

If you want to compare recalls the best way o do that is with a new model release such as a 02 Ram 1500 vs a 04 Ford 1500!

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2002/dodge/ram_1500/recalls/index.html
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2004/ford/f_150/recalls/index.html

4 vs 13 is quite the difference if you ask me and it has NOTHING to do with amount of vehicles sold!!

Well, obviously, pointing out a recall that Ford has had on a truck the same age as the Ram doesn't count, because Ford is much better.

Frank get real, this was a preventative recall, just like Fords recall was. No accidents happened because of this.

@Adam - any preventable death is a bad thing, but, there have been 19 deaths assoiciated with floor mat and/or accelleration problems with Toyotas. There has been 254 deaths with the Grand Cherokee.
A calm, skilled driver can deal with a stuck accellerator, no-one can deal with an exploding car!
The point I am ultimately trying to make is this: people are very eager to jump all over Toyota(or any rival brand) for any flaw or problem, and in the process, overlook, ignore, or downplay any problems their favorite brand has had.
There is not a single manufacturer who has not had a large recall.
Why do people slag Toyota for not having a HD pickup? If they did make one , you'd call it a POS anyway!
Compare apples to apples - RL Polk (Registrations to Sept'09)
Ram 1500 - 113,000
Tundra - 105,394
Difference = 7606 (thats not a huge difference)
2009 Total midsize sales
Dakota - 10,690
Tacoma - 111,824
Difference = 101,134 (now that is a huge difference)
If you are looking at "world" sales figures - the Toyota Hilux has sold over 12 million units .
As far as HD pickups in the world - that is an illogical statement to make as "full size" pickups are predominantly a North American phenomenon.....


Lou, you took the words right out of my mouth, well said. I'd also rather have a spare tire fall out from the underside of my Tundra, than a dashboard fall in my lap from a Ram.

There has never been a dash fall off of a Ram. Get a life, trying to bash Dodge with a childish statment like that.

I guess Toyota Tundras are not exempt from brake recall neither!
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/toyota/tundra/recalls/index.html

YEP,you're right I made the WHOLE thing up, it's never happened, there's nothing about it on the web and no one has ever heard of such a problem. I'm really sorry I made up such an unfounded story!
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/6297146/pickups-suvs/is-your-2001-dodge-ram-dash-falling-apart/index.html

quote, "a dashboard fall in my lap from a Ram."

Those Dodge's dashboard did not fall off, yes that is crappy that it happened, but that is a supplier issue not a Dodge issue. Dodge did not make the dashes defective, the supplier did.

But nice idea bringing up a issues on 10 year old issue, this is close to being relevent to the topic.

From perosnal experience, my Family has owned/ownes 11 Dodge Rams. 5 of them being 2nd gens, 2 of them being 2001s. ALL of them have been flawless. (An occasional recalls being the worst issue)

@yamoriot - looks like your family has owned many flawless Dodges. It doesn't look like they own any Grade 12 spelling diploma's.

Why is it Ford, Dodge or GM fans can blame their suppliers for faulty parts but not Toyota?
In the last few days:
1. I've seen HP blamed for Ford's cruise control switch fires.
2. I've just seen a supplier blamed for Ram's crappy dashboards, and missing brake "clip.
When a Toyota guy blames the supplier for rusty frames, or camshafts the entire blogosphere goes up in flames with damnation!
Just an unbiased, totally impartial observation ;)

Tony, I could read his post without having any problems. I'm hoping an educated person like you, could. Bringing up a persons grammar skills in an argument shows a maturity level of a 12th grader.

Dodge initiated the recall on the missing brake clip to NHTSA, instead of Toyota having to be told to initiate a recall to their vehicles.
I think this is where the new Chrysler corp is being more responsible than that of other Manufacturers.
As a matter of fact the issue of the missing brake clip was found during quality tests and steps were taken to rectify the problem.

So I find most of the previous statements pretty null and mute, most manufacturers have had recalls during any production run and for a myriad of reasons
It's how they deal with the problems that will impress me.

At least I finished 12th grade

Act like you did then.

@Uary - So I call up my preacher
I say, "Give me strength for Round 5."
He said , "You don't need no strength, you need to grow up son."
I said, "Growing up leads to growing old and then to dying
"And dying to me don't sound like all that much fun."
John Mellencamp
Life's too short - so why drive a Dodge or Ram, or Fiat or Chrysler or what ever identity crisis they are in. Ha Ha

I rest my case.

@Burt - Toyota's current recall on 'stuck" brake pedals was voluntary. Truckblog had a story on it:
http://www.truckblog.com/story-5812-toyota_files_voluntary_safety_recall_for_sticking_accelerator_pedal
I don't think Dodge is being any more responsible than the other "guys". They've all tried to get away with crap, and most of then have learned their lessons.
You would think Toyota would see that it doesn't work. Now it's their turn to learn the hard way.

Lou, with other recalls I agree with that statement. But with the most current recalls when you compare Toyota and Chrysler, it has months before Toyota issued a recall that "might" actually help the stuck peddle issue.

With this current Chrysler recall, there weren’t any reported problems at all: Loss of lives, Accidents, Property damage; none of the listed happened before this recall was issued.

With the statement about Toyota and Suppliers when comparing them to GM, Ford, and Chrysler recalls, for the most part I agree. I bet most recalls are triggered from Suppliers screwing up on orders.

But the problem with the rust issue on yota's frames it spans years, and thousands of vehicles are involved. This indicates that it is a design flaw. But, with the 2001 Dodge dash issues, it only occurred in one model year and occurred on only a few number of vehicles. The dashes are the same design from 98 to 02s (HDs) and it only affected that model year. That is not a design flaw, but sounds more like a supplier got some bad raw materials and didn't know it.

@Sunday - not all Toyota's are prone to rusting frames, it could be argued that it is a supplier problem as opposed to a design flaw. Rust prone metal is not something that would be as easy to pickup as other problems that arise.
Rust proofing metal is one way to control rust, but also the "mix" of metals in a frame come into play.
It's a complex problem that needs to be investigated.
Toyota shouldn't be let off the hook by allowing them to replace just a rear frame crossmember.
The whole stuck pedal thing is also more complex that what we've seen. A post with a link to a news article on the topic stated that similar problems have occured to other manufacturer's vehicles albiet at a lower frequency of incidences. Since this "stuck" pedal issue has had several reported causes and other manufacturer's have had similar problems - the question that begs to be asked - what ever happened to personal responsibility and accountability?
How many people out their have f--ked up and caused a MVC and blaimed it on the vehicle?
I recall a recall (no pun intended) where Ford had to recall cars because people were hitting the gas pedal and brake at the same time and causing crashes.
I might add - before the hate mail comes pouring in: I am not making excuses for Toyota. They have made some big mistakes and need to fix them. I find Toyota gets hit pretty hard by bloggers for no reason other than being Toyota.

Sunrise, Sunset, Chrysler recalls...

Like clockwork.

The only reason why I think the yota rust recall is a design issue is because it happened for multiple model years and the recall involves most of the vehicles produced during those years.

the choice a person makes in a truck purchase is a personal matter involving looks, durability, quality, needs, performance and above all finance. there is no doubt in my mind that all makes and models have had recalls and some probably deadly but at least the recalls where made.
There is no doubt about the strength of a Ram, and the quality of a Toyota, the durability of a Ford, the looks of a GMC, or the ride of a Chevy, or whatever order you put them in, what I don't understand is all the bashing I have one and would take any of the above but I like others have my preferences and reasons just enjoy your trucks and quit bashing you made your choices enjoy the and stop degrading those of others.



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