Shooting the truck with them inside is both pure confidence and stupidity! Awesome video!

Strange they completely forgot about RPGs, which pretty much makes this pig worthless.

Seeing that 'drifting' picture, doesn't look like it would pass muster with Consumer Reports...

I know exterior design isn't that important ,but the humvee looks alot better. Saftey is number on for our troops in the middle east or a SWAT team in our local city. If it does it's performmes better than expected it should go just fine.

Is this thing built from scratch or is its chassis borrowed from an existing model?

Oxi will cream his jeans if its made by Toyota.

This isn't a Hummer replacement from what I see and read. It is a more mobile vehicle for more confined combat areas. ALso looks alot lighter than a Hummer. I am not sure if eben an uparmored Hummer will survice and RPG attack so that is kind of irrelevant. Especially in this application.

IMHO, absolutely pointless vehicle. Sort of like that new Carbon E7 police car... Project born dead... RIP.

I take back what I said. It wouldn't replace a humvee, but it could be used for some police situations or a special forces mission. It looks to light weight for any heavy gun fire. Cool concept but proboly Would cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

This vehicle proves that a Navistar diesel can be placed in a Nissan Titan.

Uh no thanks I will take a Toyota Hilux .

Thats pretty cool. Was this made from the ground up because that didnt look like a Titan by looking at the cap.

@Evan: It's a clean sheet design underneath.

@Craig: Search for "Indigen Armor" on youtube. They've got a transparent armor solution that stops 50 Cal. Think that's "heavy gun fire".

looks just like a "hot wheels" truck my son has. Why not?
Mattel was making gun stocks for military applications;)

All kidding a:sideThe biggest threat to military personel are IED's. That what literally is killing the Humvee and many other troup vehicles.
This truck looks like it would serve it's purpose well.

An armored pre-runner Nissan truck - hm...interesting, would like to see proving its toughness in a Baja kind off-road rally! :)

I would take a Toyota HiLux or cruiser pickup and build one up, more running ground clearance!

By the way the M-ATV that I help to build would kick this truck's rear!!!

I do appluad the IRS system and Mike, can we get some close up pics of the rear suspension?

oxi, do you have some kind of complex? You seem like one of those guys who always has to upstage someone by saying they have or have done something bigger or better. Just noticing a trend with your posts.

Oh, BTW Oxi, nice apple and orange comparison with the M-ATV. The M-ATV weighs over 25,000lbs!!!! I highly dount it is going to top 103mph. Not exactly what one would look for in a lightweight, manuverable battelfield vehicle. It does look nicer than a Hummer though, which is a much more fair comparison.

I can see someone who would be very interested in this truck, drug cartels in mexico. Its perfect for their application; armored, off-road capabilty since they operate a lot in the dessert/baja and mountain areas. LOL But seriously they already own a lot of H3T pickups, this would be something with similar application, but a lot better. Truck looks cool and very capable.

They do all of this work to make it dependable, then they put the 6.0 in is?

Are they trying to get people killed?

The 5.9 or 6.7 would have been a much better choise, but then again being an I6 it probably wouldnt have fit. Hell even the dirtymax if a better option.

The rest of the truck in a good idea though.

"IMHO, absolutely pointless vehicle. Sort of like that new Carbon E7 police car... Project born dead... RIP."

I think its Military options are limited. How does it fare against IED's, Land mines? Maybe be fast on a road but it would slow on the roads of a Third/Fourth world country and would be pretty vulnerable. The handling with a load does look that flash.

This thing is missing laser sighted machine guns and where are the spotter mirrors for off-roading? I wouldn't expect to have one of the guys get out to spot for the driver to get over an obstacle would you?

More skid plate protection up front is needed and boy I would hate to hit a small tree with no front bumper, their goes that cooling package...

Why 4 spare tires? Soldiers have ALICE packs and stuff to carry, spare fuel, water, etc...

Where do the spare parts go, in the back seat? Off-road lights, winch, high-lift jack, how about a picture with it ready to attack a city or something...

What part of light vehicle do some of you guys not get?? Think more 4 passenger dune buggy/fast attack with a payload capacity and room. This isn't and armored vehicle for traversing landmines or combating IEDs. Add all that crap on and you pretty much kill the speed and manuverabilty it has. BTW Oxi, when was the last time you saw a military operation where they were rockcrawling to the point they needed spotters? FWIW many of our enemies run around in stock Toyota's with .50 cals mounted to the bed. Hardly going to stop a tank, but fast, mobile and a PITA to deal with if you are trying to combat them with a Hummer.

Is this what the bad guys will be driving when they chase us in the new A-Team movie?

The M-ATV's that we are building and shipping to the front lines have spotter mirrors on both sides up front...

You do not want to give a sniper an easy target while running over rough and slow terrain and need a spotter...

If a vehicle gets stuck, it could mean life or death so spotter mirrors are being installed on M-ATV's to try and prevent this by giving the driver and co-driver up front better visibility to obastacles on the terrain in front of them...

This is off-roading 101, don't you guys off-road?

By the way part of the reason the M-ATV was born was the Hummer could not catch those Toyota's in the region (without air support that is) so this new rig with 16 inches of travel and capable of surviving much better than an up-armored Hummer is key...

And read about the Toyota War where Toyota pickups won a battle against an armored army and wiped them out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War

Uh, the ex-powerstroke 6.0? Really? It wouldn't make it across the desert. Poor engine choice.

I was looking at Indegen's website.
Quote: Indigen builds both armored sedans and trucks from the ground up that look representative of OEM vehicles found worldwide.
The purpose of this is to blend in and not stand out like some "full on - war wagon". It's interesting that they mentioned sedans.
Oxi - kind of hard to be stealthy and blend in with a huge M-ATV.
They do mention multiple configurations. I bet that they can't show us much due to security.

" By the way part of the reason the M-ATV was born was the Hummer could not catch those Toyota's in the region (without air support that is) so this new rig with 16 inches of travel and capable of surviving much better than an up-armored Hummer is key..."
With its Israeli designed armour(Plasan) and mobility, it looks a whole lot better than the Indigen Vehicle in actually combating hit and run attacks by lightly armed terrorists in Pickups.

I find it hard to believe a 25,000lb armored vehicle is going to keep up or catch a Toyota Tacoma. Maybe in an area like the Rubicon where top speed is not an issue perhaps.

" I find it hard to believe a 25,000lb armored vehicle is going to keep up or catch a Toyota Tacoma. Maybe in an area like the Rubicon where top speed is not an issue perhaps."

You need something that is pretty mobile and decently armoured. Something like the Indigen is too lightly armoured
for such a task

Guess you are unaware of dune buggies that are used and other fast attack vehicles Robert?

Keith,
I am aware of them. What is required is something with sufficient mobility, survivability and lethality to deal with them. Something like the M-ATV can fir that bill. A "Dune Buggy v Dune Buggy" scenario is not going to get you anywhere.

Point being there are light attack vehicles in service that do not offer what this vehicle has to offer. Transport of 4-5 personnel as well a light armor against small arms. It has advantages over dune buggies currently in service. I did not mean put it up against them. The other current alterbnative that can haul people and a good amount of cargo for a fast drop off or pick up is the slow and lumbering HUMMER. This thing wasn't meant to go toe to toe with an M1 Abrams. Think cavalry not armor batallion.

The idea here is to replace the stock Toyota tacomas etc. With 50s mounted in them that SF currently uses. These trucks have limited travel, and NO armor. They aren't for chasing down much at. If you know anything about SF the idea is to never be seen. This vehicle is something that can be added to our arsenal, easily maintained, easily transported and will accomplish the missions at hand. It doesn't look like a military vehicle, it's relatively light weight, and it's lightly armored. I'm all for it.

The idea here is to replace the stock Toyota tacomas etc. With 50s mounted in them that SF currently uses. These trucks have limited travel, and NO armor. They aren't for chasing down much at. If you know anything about SF the idea is to never be seen. This vehicle is something that can be added to our arsenal, easily maintained, easily transported and will accomplish the missions at hand. It doesn't look like a military vehicle, it's relatively light weight, and it's lightly armored. I'm all for it.

I think this is a good idea to purchase IN ADDITION to the current arsenal.

It's not designed to REPLACE anything. The M-ATV has it's own niche, which it excels at. The Hummer also has it's own applications. And Dune Buggies have their own uses too.

They're looking to fit a certain bill. That is to be able to travel relatively un-noticed, while maintaining speed and manouverability, with a limited off road capability, and protection for the occupants.

@ Mister Oxi. You are an idiot. They're not going to be crawling over rocks with these, so no use for spotter mirrors. And if they get stuck, there's a winch option. At which time you will already have deployed a security force around the area, or have called for QRF/Recovery.
In the video, it states that the vehicle tested is armoured and ballasted with 2,500 lbs of weight. That means that the tires in the back in the video are to simulate a load, to see what the vehicle is capable of while carrying a load and occupants, that's also why the people inside are wearing armour/kit, to see just what the vehicle offers. Building a military vehicle meant for war is useless if you only test it on paved roads with no load and 1 test driver. If you bothered to watch the entire video, you would know that there is options available, including a winch, auxiliary outlet, blast suppressing seats, etc.

This thing would be useless if it hits a landmine/IED. But then again, so is ANY other vehicle. I've seen IEDs take out LAVs and tanks. The idea behind this, is that it is lightweight and manouverable enough to get around/through a danger area. That's what they're counting on.

I think you all are missing the point. The military is looking for lightweight vehicles primarily for special forces units. While some need to be ultralight and fast and transported in by Chinooks, others can be a bit heavier.

None of these units are designed to withstand IEDs, or the bane of all armies, the RPG. RPGs can take out light tanks, forget about pickup trucks or warthogs surviving them. Their only defense is speed and maneuverability.

I would like to Indigen's pickup compete in the next Baja 1000. That would be good test of its durability that is the real need for our troops. Perhaps they can link up with the Herbst brothers in Las Vegas to provide support for this test.