HAHA.. Thats what you get for buying a dodge.

The Dodge that could not swim...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fn8KH6rLEk&feature=related

ROTFLOL

http://www.carstereo.com/forum/showthread.cfm?tid=56405&fid=10

It's hard finding a truck that's a truck anymore. Once you get past the cheesy plastic bumpers and other low quality materials, there a plagues of mechanical recall issues...anything from brake lines to heated washer fluid to entire frames. Trucks used to be driven off road in harsh and severe conditions. Now, leaving the factory or dealer is the most dangerous and risky drive you can take.

at least with there sales numbers they dont have to much to recall

How many more nails can the Ram coffin possibly be able to handle!

its always nice to see uneducated people commenting on vehicles they most likely do not own i own a 2008 ram its a good truck my work truck is an 05 ram with high km very few problems no more than the 07 chev van we have or the 02 sierra all these trucks ford chev dodge toyota have issues but they are now all recommended buys by consumers reports i am pretty sure that the guys posting the comments are all most likely import car drivers and dont know anything at all about trucks

Tom? You don't own a 2009 Ram either. So don't comment on a vehicle you don't even own. :)

BTW someone was probably close buy saying this would be a bigger recall if they sold more of them. Out of the vehicles listed as having this potential problem, I think the Wrangler is the best seller besides the Ram. Ram shot th emselves in the foot with their new trucks. They went from being the least expensive to being the most expensive. That is not a good way to keep your old buyers.

At least brake lines are a cheap and easy fix. I can't say that this would stop me from ever buying a Dodge. Obviously, they are addressing this problem early, since it's the 2010 lineup (i.e. not like a 2003 finally being recalled now.)

"Dealers will inspect and replace the brake tubes for free"
I hope the decision isn't up to the dealer's discretion to replace. I know plenty of dealers that would just return the truck saying "it all checked out, everything's fine" without even looking at it, then tell dodge that they owe them for the labor.

If some of you had done just a little homework, this was a supplier problem and limited to just 2 months of production (April and May) for the vehicles involved.

I agree with tom and I own a 2009 ram 1500 truck. What Tim said is absolutely ridiculous. Vehicles are held to a MUCH higher standard than they used to be. I would not doubt that these potentially faulty brake lines are more reliable than the brake lines used in any pickups built ten years ago. Low quality materials? that's ridiculous. You really think that trucks of the past were built with better quality materials? The ram 1500 is an awesome truck. Mine has a LIFETIME powertrain warranty. I have owned and been happy with fords and chevys. When I went shopping for a new truck I figured I would end up with a ford or chevy. I was skeptical about the dodge but after I drove all three (plus a toyota and a nissan) I felt like it was easily the best truck for the money. It's a completely different story after you drive the trucks.

"If some of you had done just a little homework, this was a supplier problem and limited to just 2 months of production (April and May) for the vehicles involved."

Funny, Toyota's issues were supplier problems as well. Pedals and rusty frames were not manufactured by Toyota, but they take it in the pants for their suppliers deficient QC.

beebe, you do realize why they made the lifetime powertrain warranty gimmick right? They had the image of being unreliable. They didn't get that image out of the blue. They are also banking on you getting a new vehicle long before 100,000 miles. Kind of like GM's warranty they always brag about. The majority of car and truck buyers trade at 5 years or 60k to 100k miles. Ever wonder why that warranty doesn't apply to the HD Rams or the ones with the Cummins? They would lose their shirts as those trucks are used for work and would actually see high mileage and lots of wear and tear.

The funny thing is whenever somebody's favorite model is recalled, it's a "supplier" problem.

FYI, unless Ram gets their own natural resources out of the ground, turns them into raw materials, and into a finished product, there is always a supplier involved. Accept some responsibility for a change.

People have not been doing their homework. This was a supplier problem!

I always laugh when I hear that it is a supplier problem. Buyers could care less if a supplier problem because all the parts or materials involve a supplier in one way or another.

I have no idea who makes all of the parts inside my F-150. All that I know and care about is that they all function as one happy family. And Ford has an awesome track record of making sure that happens.

I suppose one can blame a supplier all that they want to, however, Dodge, I mean Ram, should have been on top of this to begin with as ultimately it is their product that will take the hit. This is especially true when a the 2009 Ram had 5 recalls. After 5 recalls, you get tire of people passing the buck.

In the end, no matter how you slice and dice this, consumers will NOT look on a problem favorably. And THAT'S what matters.

Keith there's really very little chance i'll ever sell my ram. Eventually i'll let my workers on the farm use it and i'll get another new truck. If it doesn't get crashed I'll probably take advantage of the lifetime warranty. It will be interesting to see when that is. No truck can run forever without problems, and yes obviously most people sell their trucks before the warranty expires, but I won't. The point is with my dodge warranty I have much more peace of mind than i could have gotten buying any other truck.
Those who think the truck is unreliable must not have much or probably any experience with these new dodges. Spend a little time with one and an intelligent person would never call it unreliable. That might be the image they have to some people, but that image is just plain wrong. Of all the reliable sources I have and from my 16000 miles of experience with it so far I can tell you it's a great truck. And (obvious to most people) way way way better than the 02 f-150 and 03 silverado that I currently own.

That does not change the fact the the Dodge Ram is the most American made pickup.

Proactive recall, good job.

Supplier problem=small number of affected vehicles from same model year. QC of supplier will eventually find something being built out of spec and notify the manufacturer, or vise versa.

Manufacturer problem=large number of affected vehicles ranging through multiple model years. QC of supplier doesn't find a problem because the product is being built within spec but designed with a flaw from the manufacturer. These are often found by NHTSA and they inform the manufacturer about the problem.

2010 Ram 1500 Recall
Manufacturer: [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]CHRYSLER[/color][/color]
GROUP LLC
Mfr's Report Date: JUL 07, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V315000
NHTSA Action Number: N/A Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:MASTER CYLINDER
Potential Number of Units Affected: N/A
Summary:
CHRYSLER IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 LEFT HAND DRIVE JEEP LIBERTY, DODGE NITRO AND RAM 1500 TRUCK; RIGHT AND LEFT HAND DRIVE JEEP WRANGLER VEHICLES. THESE VEHICLES MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH AN IMPROPERLY FORMED MASTER CYLINDER TO HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT (HCU) BRAKE TUBE ASSEMBLY END FLARE.
Consequence:
THIS COULD LEAD TO LOSS OF BRAKE FLUID AND REDUCED BRAKING PERFORMANCE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE BRAKE TUBES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING AUGUST 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHRYSLER TOLL-FREE AT 1-800-853-1403 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 1-800-853-1403 end_of_the_skype_highlighting.
Notes:
CHRYSLER SAFETY RECALL NO. K15. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236(TTY 1-800-424-9153) 1-800-424-9153 end_of_the_skype_highlighting), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .

Chrysler has sold 162,312 of those 4 models so far in 2010. 22,739 were recalled. That equals about 14% of the 4 modles. That is significant, but not debilitating.

I like Stens explation of the manufacturer vs. supplier problem theory.

Mfr's Report Date: JUL 07, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V315000
NHTSA Action Number: N/A Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:MASTER CYLINDER
Potential Number of Units Affected: N/A
Summary:
CHRYSLER IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 LEFT HAND DRIVE JEEP LIBERTY, DODGE NITRO AND RAM 1500 TRUCK; RIGHT AND LEFT HAND DRIVE JEEP WRANGLER VEHICLES. THESE VEHICLES MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT WITH AN IMPROPERLY FORMED MASTER CYLINDER TO HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT (HCU) BRAKE TUBE ASSEMBLY END FLARE.
Consequence:
THIS COULD LEAD TO LOSS OF BRAKE FLUID AND REDUCED BRAKING PERFORMANCE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE BRAKE TUBES FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING AUGUST 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHRYSLER TOLL-FREE AT 1-800-853-1403 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 1-800-853-1403 end_of_the_skype_highlighting.
Notes:
CHRYSLER SAFETY RECALL NO. K15. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236(TTY 1-800-424-9153) 1-800-424-9153 end_of_the_skype_highlighting),

Lou,
I have to gree with the post syou have made in the past about the Dodge brand. Dodge is improving in quality, but Dodge doesn't quite know what high quality is yet.

According to my research on recalls.gov, the 2009 and 2010 Ram 1500 have a total of (6) six recalls. In comparison, the 2009 and 2010 F150 have a total of 1 recall.

If Dodge did know what quality was, we wouldn't see all the recalls, trucks breaking down, tranny problems. Dodge is ok, but the highest quality is not there according to my research. Sorry to burst your bubble, Dodge fans.

I was hoping after the taxpayer backed bailout of Chrysler, the new Ram would break away from the problems that plagued the Dodge brand in the past. But they have not gotten over the hump yet. People can blame suppliers if they want to go that route, but once Fiat (who is not know for quality) takes over controlling ownership of Ram, does anyone see the quality improving? I just don't see it.

Supplier or Manufacturer or both? You be the judge. You don't hear brake tubes problems and this many recalls from other manufacturers. Why? Because the products produced for other manufacturers are a different specification and design and are manufactured using different production tooling and materials than the parts produced for Ram.

"Consequence:
THIS COULD LEAD TO LOSS OF BRAKE FLUID AND REDUCED BRAKING PERFORMANCE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH."

Where is Ray Lahood??

this sounds dangerous

Id rather have my 2009 Ram than a Ford. What does Ford stand for? Fix Or Repair Daily! LOL

ford stand for F---ing old rebuild Dodge

Man, I bet the 6 people who bought a 2010 Ram are pissed about this recall.

So if my wife's brakes go out and he she crashes and dies, I'm supposed to be satisfied with that because it's a supplier problem? You guys are worse than the loyal Toyota owners we were hearing from a few months ago.

Heads up everyone. If you see a 2010 Ram 1500, Dodge Nitro, Jeep Liberty or Jeep Wrangler behind you, let them pass, they may not be able to stop.

You anti Dodge guys just love this don`t you? This proves all along that dodges are junk, bad trannies, bad this bad that, blah blah blah. Give me a break. I work as a mechanic at a dodge dealership. I have access to the dodge repair website. here are the recalls listed on the website.
H 39: Airbag label, airbag labels on about 70 vehicles may not include frech wording. Obviously a Canadian recall.
J 12: Reprogram HVAC control module, mode door on roughly 4770 vehicles may not work properly. A reprogram repairs the concern.
J 06: Washer fluid level sensor, about 3000 vehicles affected. Washer fluid can leak through the sensor into the wire connector causing the low washer fluid lamp to come on. This is a customer satisfaction recall, not a saftey recall according to the website.
J 37: Brake pedal linkage clip, about 20,000 vehicles affected across 4 models, including Ram trucks, the Nitro/Liberty sisters, Cherokee/Commander sisters, and Sebring/Avenger. Admittedly more serious than the others but a small number of vehicles affected.
The new recall is not listed as of today. If you still feel your life might be in danger driving a new Ram then you better not step foot out of the bomb shelter that you call a home. You want to talk quality control? It is because of QC that the number of vehicles affected is so small. Chrysler tracks every single batch of parts from every single supplier used on every single vehicle they build. When a problem is found it is delt with immediatly. Just thought you all should know. Its not like your driving around in a time bomb. If you don`t want a Ram because of all these life threatening recalls, fine. The rest of us will continue to drive and enjoy these trucks.

Service department: Hello, this is Service. How can I help you?

Owner: Hello, my wife's brakes lines are leaking on her new 2010 Wrangler.

Service: Don't worry about it. It's a supplier problem.

Owner: What?

Service: It's just brakes. Stopping is overrated anyway.

Let's do a comparison.

2009 Ram
MAR 09, 2009
Component: VISIBILITY:WINDSHIELD WIPER/WASHER
Potential Number of Units Affected: 1,364

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2009 Ram
MAR 09, 2009
Component: POWER TRAIN:CLUTCH ASSEMBLY:PEDAL/LINKAGE
Potential Number of Units Affected: 504

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2009 Ram
MAR 09, 2009
Component: VISIBILITY:WINDSHIELD WIPER/WASHER:MOTOR
Potential Number of Units Affected: 65,896

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2009 Ram
MAY 05, 2009
Component: EQUIPMENT:ELECTRICAL:AIR CONDITIONER
Potential Number of Units Affected: 36,793

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2009 Ram
JAN 07, 2010
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Potential Number of Units Affected: 20,045

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2010 Ram
JAN 07, 2010
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Potential Number of Units Affected: 20,045

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2010 Ram
MAY 06, 2010
Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:MODULE
Potential Number of Units Affected: 40,131

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2010 Ram
JUL 07, 2010
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:MASTER CYLINDER
Potential Number of Units Affected: N/A

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TOTAL: 8 Recalls for the 2009 and 2010 Ram light duty

Source: recalls.gov

And now for Ford:

2009 F-150
APR 29, 2009
Component: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:BRAKE LIGHTS:SWITCH
Potential Number of Units Affected: 8,735

No recalls for the 2010 F-150

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TOTAL: 1 recall for the 2009 and 2010 F-150

Source: recalls.gov

In conclusion, it looks like Dodge still has their work cut out for them and Ford has done their homework in producing a nearly problem free quality truck. I am looking forward to the heavy duty shootout.

@ Jay Your list has a few flaws. The largest of which would be the recall of the clutch linkage on Ram 1500. As of 09 a manual tranny is not available for the 1500. How can there be a recall on a feature that doesn't exist?

@peewee and bruce- usually i wouldn't say anything over a comment like yours especially because i hate when people go on articles just to trash talk the truck, but i really have to this time... this is a recall about a dodge, not a ford. So while you wait in a line to get your truck fixed i'll be out there in my FORD F150 doing work and making money.

While you are in your Ford, Ill be in my better looking Dodge, passing you in your under powered truck, as you are pulling into the gas station to fill your truck, before you stop at the grocery store. Those are the only thing Fords are good at, looking ugly, burning fuel, going slow, and getting groceries.

I hope you enjoy your hemi in the quartermile because that's all that piece of junk is good for and ill stop at the gas station to fill up while you stop at the local dealership to get you're truck working right. another thing if you think a ford is an ugly truck that's you, but when your dashboard falls in and all you feel is rattles in the truck just realize why people don't buy them. Ford and GM are so far ahead of dodge it's unbelievable...

jonathan,

Sure 18 mpg in a Hemi Dodge Ram is bad....o.k..buy a Smart car if you want better mpg !!

Dashboard ? An isolated problem on a few Dodge's in the 90's ,look at many 1960's-1990's Ford and GM and you will find a cracked dash !!

Wow,my Dodge's never rattles,sqweeked...the new 2009-2010 Ram's are the best ,smoothest driving trucks out today !!

Ford has bad reliability...Many new Ford owners are reporting problems with engine noises on the 5.4 ticking knocking they say Ford is draging their feet ,should be a recall..wide spread problem !! they have a tsb out..also 5.4 spark plug stuck in head issue..And its not only in the 5.4 all Ford V-8's and V-10 can have this issue,funny a recall with Ford tail lights...Ford taillights never worked in the past,I remember laughing at ford trucks when I was a kid,one light would work,they hit the brakes the other would come on ,plus faulty wipers,headlights and flipping over Explorers, Lincolns that drop to the ground faulty air ride suspension,Windstar the tranny blew up from the get go, The ford 3.0 seems to have serious issues the left side of the engine loves to self destruct !! As for GM,they have problems too,and obviously you are ignorant so I wont waste my time with you anymore.....

Chrysler is said to be recalling cars now ,to fix any issues that MAY,I repeat MAY as in COULD BE a problem in the future..remember no accidents or people complained about these issues,unlike Toyota,blowing up engines,rusted frames,random excelleration,loss of steering or GM's 1.5 million recalled fire hazzard vehicles that many caught fire !! Ford is announcing a recall,Chrysler also recalled minivans for a power door wire harness,engineers changed the design,to a better longer lasting one..they want to fix any lose ends since they are revamping their entire line-up,time to fix any components now to ensure trouble free quality in the future..

Furthermore,just because a vehicle is not being recalled doesnt mean there are no problems with it,alot of new Ford trucks knock and tick like a son of a gun and no recall is that quality ? My Hemi doesnt tick,but I personally know of 2 F-150's that tick,knock ...odd,should have a recall,the Ford dealer says its normal to tick and knock !!

Jeff,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2OxECnn3No&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2OxECnn3No&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2OxECnn3No&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM0Y3d205Vw&feature=related

I own a 2010 RAM 1500 5.7 litre Hemi bad-boy-jones and love it. No manufacturer is perfect (see Toyota) but this truck is awesome. All of you commenting probably never owned a full-size truck so get in your Miata's and shove off.

@ Dodge My mother inlaws Ford Edge ticks pretty good to. She was also told its normal. Probably no recall because there is no safety concern.

StenSpel - No all supplier defects show up immediately. Things like improper coatings or bad material can take months of use to turn up. Look at the Toyota frame issue for example. Outwardly they likely look no different than a properly prepped frame, only after years of exposure did the defect appear. A suppliers final inspection is and should be more stringent than the manufacturers incoming inspection. That is how the system works. Certified suppliers meet inspection criteria which allows for faster delivery times due to reduced incoming inspection required by meeting the criteria. Look up ISO, SPC and QPL. There is more info than you will ever get through that spells out how systems work. Add in that many manufacturers add in their own amendments to meet their needs as well.

It is not as simple as widespread or delayed issues falling solely on the manufacturer. What does is if they tried to bury evidence of them or ignored issues as they were found.

So my Old F-150 was a POS because it had more recalls than I can count? The cruise control switch could short and cause a fire so they advised not parking in the garage, that was one recall.

All vehicles have recalls, and please don't combine the 2009 model year with the 2010 model year to create your longer list of recalls. Give me a break.

I personally own a 2009 CrewCab Ram and only 1 recall has affected me, the HVAC recall and they corrected that during one of my oil changes. The issue wasn't even there but it was inspected.

People never cease to amaze me.

@Kyle - looking at trends are important. A manufacturer's entire product line can give clues to quality control. Last year, the Ram and Caravan were the only models with an acceptable (average) quality. I am still nervous about Dodge because they've only had 2 model years with average quality.

@ Dodge - I'm surprised that you didn't jump all over the "supplier problem" aspect of this story.
I've talked to a few people recently, who've had nightmare problems with tranny's and rearends in the HD Ram diesels(new Rams not older ones).
I thought that this problem was dead and gone.

Poor fuel economy has also been an issue with Ram. I also like to look at safety ratings for trends in quality. Dodge Ram has been out for two years and they have not gotten good ratings across the board. With a new design you would think this would be a no brainer. I would be worried for them once the new more stringent ratings come in. How will they compete?
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=70

Alright so neither of us will agree on anything and that's understandable. You can drive your ram and ill drive my Ford. But one thing I never said anything about mpg I buy a truck to get the job done and if it gets good mpg then that's great, but I'm not expecting it. If someone can answer this though, how did Ford get pulled into this article?

I've talked to a few people recently, who've had nightmare problems with tranny's and rearends in the HD Ram diesels(new Rams not older ones).
I thought that this problem was dead and gone.
Posted by: Lou

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Lou, You have not been doing your homework! That was a supplier problem. ;) Dodge is #1 for quality - never at fault for anything. Hopefully those people are still under warranty. ;)

If you live long enough, you'll realize that all brands of trucks and cars for that matters are way better now than the "good ole days".
My son just bought a '10 Ram and loves it. For what it's worth, I currently drive a "03 Ram with 192K miles....original engine, trans, water pump, a/c....even original plugs. Hemi runs like a top, burns no oil.
My philosophy....change your oil religiously, and don't rag them out and they will last a long time, no matter who makes them.