2012 Power Wagon Wins Four Wheeler Award

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The editors of Four Wheeler Magazine have named the 2012 Ram 2500 Power Wagon their "2012 Pickup Truck of the Year" winner. 

To qualify for the competition Four Wheeler requires that a vehicle be entirely new or substantially revised in some mechanical way. The Power Wagon qualified by offering a new six-speed transmission (mated with all Hemis) and all-new RamBox for their middle-length (6-foot 4-inch-long) bed. Previously, the RamBox was only available on the Ram 1500 shortbed but now it's available for both Crew Cab and Mega Cab 2500 and 3500 models. Power Wagons also are now offered in ST, SLT, and Laramie trim levels, where previously it was only offered in one. 

Although the field was small, John Cappa, Editor of Four Wheeler, said, "The Power Wagon crawls over the difficult rocky terrain...yet it's still civilized enough to be daily-driven...you include the RamBox and you end up witha remarkable factory-builty 3/4-ton truck that easily deserves Four Wheeler's Pickup Truck of the Year award." 

In some ways, it's no surprise the Power Wagon won as it seems a perfect match for a publication that heavily prioritizes harsh terrain capability. The Power Wagon comes equipped standard with electric front and rear locking differentials, significant underbody armor, 33-inch BFG All-Terrains, swaybar disconnects, 4.56:1 gears, Bilstein shock, and a 12,000-pound Warn winch. The Power Wagon beat out the Ford F-150 and Ram HD for the honors.  

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only two real pickup..dodge,and gm the rest is history..

@Bob,

Your beloved GM Corporate said it you inbred.

@Jake...

Check out the THERMAL BYPASS Mod for the Power Wagon's.... DodgeTalk.com

Anything electrical CAN be overloaded and this is what most people are doing to their winches. You need to understand the thermal limits of the fuses & electrical systems of your rig before trying to pull something out of a ditch over a long period of time. The thermal units on the factory winch will not take a endurance beating!!!! Increasing the Battery Size is another great MOD to do with a Power Wagon. These are all little things that will add to the overall enjoyment of your Power Wagon.

where at Frankie?? I never saw anything like that, no quotes or anything. That portion of of the article looked more like an opinion or assumption of the author. Go troll somewhere else Frank.

@Bob,

Stop being a girl, here you go.

"On the design front, our sources tell us that GM planners have been a bit sensitive about the look [of] the current trucks — seeing them as a more feminine look compared to the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram. We're told to expect a brawnier look, and more chrome — especially on the heavy-duty models."

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/11/first-spy-shots-of-next-gen-chevy-silverado-1.html


@Bob,

You are the epitome of a TROLL. I have facts, you are an idiot!

I hate any truck that is not a Chevy because they are better. I troll because the Power Wagon is better than anything GM makes. I hate the manstep because the errect pole reminds me of what I am not. That is why my wife calls me spongebob. My therapist said I shoukd apologize. I feel so much better. Sorry. I will never troll again.

Frankie,

"sources" is not a GM spokesperson, engineer, board member, ect. I consider that part of the article heresay. BTW, I like how you are trolling under the name Bob.

I don't need to post under another name as it does not benefit me.

The article specifically says "GM Planners."

It's ok though, we all know you are in denial.

Drive the truck for 300,000 miles and then test it. That will prove which truck should be number one. Testing new trucks and picking a winner is useless. I bet the heater vents will not open up after 300,000 miles. The heater core will leak too. Then try repairing them. The Dodge Ram is the worst engineered truck on the road today. You have to remove the steering column and remove the entire dash to repair the cheap heater duct doors or replace the heater core. A problem my son is living today with his so called truck of the year. What a joke!

I'm not in denial. As I said before no one employed by GM was quoted as saying this. If it were, I might think otherwise. Like I said it is heresay and seemed a bit biased, just like some of the wording on the Chevy Truck 100 year article.

@kansas bob,

It is not just this article, look at the others.

http://blogs.insideline.com/straightline/2011/11/spy-photos-2014-chevy-silverado-prototype.html#more

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f13/spy-photos-2014-chevy-silverado-prototype-106786/


"But now it's Chevy's turn to be the newest kid on the block. These images prove that Chevy is hard at work on the 2014 Chevy Silverado. The biggest difference we can spot is the new greenhouse. Beyond that, all we have are rumors. GM engineers are apparently unhappy with the look of the current truck, saying that it looks too feminine compared with the other trucks. More chrome and a beefier front end are the rumored fixes."


You are in denial.

@Bob: Dodge trucks are gas hogs? Why did the Hemi Ram with a 5 speed in the 30,000 $ shootout do better then the smaller 5.3 Chevy with a 6 speed? Its cause the Chevy is only good at saving gas at interstate speeds with no load. Otherwise it gets busy downshifting so much. Tall final drive ratios and a lack of torque do that. You should venture out of Michigan once in awhile. But this truck here, it is made to get somewhere, and do some work. Trucks that sit higher, have tires that can both carry a load and offload aren't gonna get great gas mileage.

lmao...Whatever Frank. Go ahead and post links to articles all night. I could care less. Go log on Facebook and get your I Love Ford badge if you haven't already.

@kansas bob,

Crybaby!

"Check out the THERMAL BYPASS Mod for the Power Wagon's.... DodgeTalk.com..." -JBrown

You beat me to it. Even though I never experienced this problem with my winch, I went ahead and made the THERMAL BYPASS modification, anyway. I did not want to be left with a dead winch when I finally had to use it.

@Greg - you had 1 Chev get 600k and the current 1 has 300 k,without any problims and your son bot a Dodge. That meens 1 off 2 things. Your relible Chevy storys are full of crap or your son thinks you are full of crap.

I have owned many Dodge trucks over the years and been happy with all of them, the comment about bad front ends is true on abused or lifted Cummins models as you have basically a Toyota Tacoma on the front two tires that are getting bounced around. There are some really good upgrades if you are serious about using your 7500# truck offroad like many do and they are just fine.

GM I would agree is making the best truck they ever had, but that being said I know several 2010/11 truck owners with HD's that say they would not trust their truck offroad especially with any kind of load, the IFS cannot handle the abuse and unlike the Dodge and Ford that get sloppy in the steering the Chevy IFS just breaks leaving you for a tow; that is not Heavy Duty in my eyes. The other comment that I get from a few friends with Chevy HD's to my sincere surprise is how horrible they ride on the new body style I honestly thought GM had the best ride out there but apparently with the latest attempt to stay up with the pack for hauling they hurt their ride considerably.

So unlike so many other posts here I am not flaming nor being a A$$ those are just my and other friends opinions on current trucks and how they are used. I love the Power Wagon concept if it had a Diese3l option I would own one not so much for the crazy offroad ability but for the slick winch installation and the locking front and rear for the mud; even though knock on wood so far have managed to get my Cummins out of some pretty bad situations with finesse and unmatched idle torque.

One of the best ways to reduce the strain on your winch is to use a snatch block. You double your towing capacity and vastly reduce the stress on the winch. I'd add a whole list of other items like treee straps, load rated chains, shackles, and steel cable with comparable or preferably higher ratings than your winch.
The biggest problem I've seen consistently with winching is that guys just use the winch and tie off to the closest object, usually a tree. The truck gets dragged at an angle against the ruts or hole that it is stuck in.
Properly set up winch anchors allow you to winch straight ahead taking a ton of stress of the front end of the truck and the winch. In some cases you want to winch off to a side. Again, you need a lot of extra gear to properly set up winch points.
I've heard that if you have enough snatch blocks you can use a front mount winch to pull your truck backwards. I never believed it until I saw a video of it being done.
One must make sure that an axle isn't hung up on a rock or stump. No sense winching if you are going to leave vital parts broken (Que Oxi and a diatribe about mounting 2,000 lb worth of skid plates on the underside of your truck).

@Frank - ignore the trolls. They live for pissing people off. The best way to deal with them is to ignore them. Easier said than done. Most of the trolling comes from the same guys. They post their BS and if you don't reply, they look stupid as usual.
I just have to laugh at them.
If they loved Chev or GM as much as they claim, they'd shut up. They only hurt GM's image with their BS.
That is what I find so funny.
The most rabid Ford or Dodge fan could never do the same kind of damage to GM's image that the GM trolls do.
Hey Trolls,
Keep up the good PR for Ford and Ram.
Keep trolling.
You are contributing positively to Ford and Ram truck sales.

Great truck but, terrible test.


So you know what this means! "GM wins again"

What about testing after 100,000, 200,000 or if its lucky to make 300,000 miles?

Everything can be dressed up to sell it to the sheeple but what about durability down the road?

Years of rain falling on it, brutal winters, heat of summer, extreme off-roading...

Will this pickup last or just remain shiny for the roads?

I suggest the ONLY real test would be taking one STOCK, installing a roll-cage and fuel cell, some additions to the front and rear bumpers and enter it in the stock class down in Baja!

We'll see if it can survive a REAL torture test...

Baja will test the engine, transmission, T/case, rear and front axles, ground clearance, approach/departure/break-over angles, water fording (yes we cross water and small streams down in Baja), body integrity, comfort of seats, interior integrity, electrical, fuel economy, suspension all-around, steering, cooling, ball-joints, wheel bearings, driveshafts, frame strength, you name it all in one race!

@Mike - The company I work for actually purchased 1 2011 Chevy 2500 as the result of the owners brother now working at a Chevy dealer instead of the Ford dealer here in town. We Always bought Super Duty Fords but gave his brother a sale at his new employer for an end of the year write off. He thought we'd like the IFS of the Chevy on the road but I can honestly tell you, our Super Duty trucks with their SFA ride so much nicer on pavement.

We don't even like to drive the Chevy so it sits most of the time. His brother has been told we're going back and sticking with Ford's. You get the best of both worlds on pavement and off. Maybe with the weaker IFS on the Chevy it rode better but then you have a truck that can't compete with the SFA Ford and Ram. Now that Chevy made them stronger it just ruined the ride anyways.

So you have a truck with a rough ride, inherent IFS weaknesses and that awful looking low hung frame. I drove it up over a somewhat steep curb onto a jobsite last week and the frame just dragged all the way acrossed it. It left all the black coating crap on the curb and a frame I had to repaint back at the shop. Yet our Super Duty trucks drove right over the curb No Problem. They got caught up on nothing because their frames are tucked up high into the body. I don't hate Chevy but their truck is just all wrong for everything in my opinion. I can't imagine that Chevy in the snow or some deep mud in a field. That frame would be caught up and have the whole truck stuck. You'd have to get towed out..

They need to do like Ford does and Dodge. Make the straight frame that sits up high so you can't see it and there are no gound clearance issues. Then put a SFA up front with coils. You get a better ride on road and you can take it off road. They'd probably sell more too.

@Oxi - Read the article before commenting. For the test they take an unmodified "STOCK" vehicle and test it on and off-road in different conditions. If you donated some money i'm sure they'd be happy to run the test down in Baja for you.

And BTW... Ford DID do what you suggested as part of their Ecoboost torture test. Fun to watch but irrelevant to most pickup truck owners. How a truck tows a load is much more important than how it handles a bumpy road.

@Tim - I hear the same comments from loggers. they say the Ford SD rides better than the Chevy. That is opposite to what a guy would expect.

@MichiganBob "...It never ceases to amaze me the ignorance of several of the posters on this board."

Hmm...and I always thought you are the king of ignorance on PUTC.

michigan Bob I agree...randyK...apparently you are retarded....Ive got a 05 3/4 Duramax crew cab with a 6" lift.... Ive been places these guys wouldnt take a jeep for testing... with no issues... you idiot solid frint axle guys are a joke....IFS offers ride, ground clearance that you cant get from a solid axle...and the icing on the cake for me was when my buddy brought is 05 Cummins 4x4 over and couldn't make it up the hill in my back yard...it was hillarious...and I didn't even spin a tire.... get a life..and get over it... Go GM!

"...and the icing on the cake for me was when my buddy brought is 05 Cummins 4x4 over and couldn't make it up the hill in my back yard...it was hillarious...and I didn't even spin a tire..." -Jason

That is because the your friend's Dodge has a REAL diesel. Made out of cat-iron. Not like the Duramax with aluminum heads. That makes the heavier Dodge more sensitive in low-traction situations than the Chevrolet/G.M.C.

Cummins= A workhorse motor.

Duramax= An alternative lifestyle motor.

@Jason - you are not giving us the whole picture. You said your truck was lifted. What kind of tires do you have? What about gearing? Body configuration?
What about the Ram Cummins? tires, gearing?
Regular cab versus long box crewcab?
You get my drift?
There have been hills I couldn't climb on a dirt bike. I came back a few days later with a different brand and composition of rear tire and I'm hero, catching big air off the top.


"...and the icing on the cake for me was when my buddy brought is 05 Cummins 4x4 over and couldn't make it up the hill in my back yard...it was hillarious...and I didn't even spin a tire..." -Jason

That is because the your friend's Dodge has a REAL diesel. Made out of cat-iron. Not like the Duramax with aluminum heads. That makes the heavier Dodge more sensitive in low-traction situations than the Chevrolet/G.M.C.

Cummins= A workhorse motor.

Duramax= An alternative lifestyle motor.

Posted by: Buy American Or Say Bye To America! | Dec 7, 2011 10:46:42 AM

I guess that classifies the new Ford 6.7 diesel as an alternative lifestyle engine as it also has aluminum heads. I guess you are saying in so many words that Ford loses AGAIN.

"I guess that classifies the new Ford 6.7 diesel as an alternative lifestyle engine as it also has aluminum heads. I guess you are saying in so many words that Ford loses AGAIN." -kansas Bob

True, that the 6.7L V-8 Power Stoke also uses non-desirable aluminum heads. At least it has the advantage though of having a block made from compacted graphite iron (C.G.I.). That puts it ahead of the Duramax.

Chevrolet/G.M.C.= LOSING!

Ford= WINNING!!!

I guess that classifies the new Ford 6.7 diesel as an alternative lifestyle engine as it also has aluminum heads. I guess you are saying in so many words that Ford loses AGAIN." -kansas Bob

True, that the 6.7L V-8 Power Stoke also uses non-desirable aluminum heads. At least it has the advantage though of having a block made from compacted graphite iron (C.G.I.). That puts it ahead of the Duramax.

Chevrolet/G.M.C.= LOSING!

Ford= WINNING!!!

I think you are a little bit premature. This engine is NOT proven, and I have read about several problems with it. Time will tell. I say it will be a turd given Ford's track record for the last several years with diesels. Don't try to blame it on Navistar like Ford did. Navistar did not have the issues with the 6.0 and 6.4 in their trucks. Another LOSS for Ford.

kansas Bob-

Why can we not blame International/Navistar for Ford's 6.0L Power Stroke woes? If it is the exact same motor, pretty sure there are slight changes, used between International and Ford, then there should be an equal amount of failures or reliability.

Is it not common for the manufacturer of the original name- brand to use their highest quality for themselves and make minor changes (shortcuts) for the off-brand products they make for other companies? I used to work at an auto parts store right out of high school. It was common knowledge that Raybestos made the house-brand brake components and Valvoline made the house-brand motor oil. I am confident that these manufacturers changed their formulas, some what, in order to private label them at a much lower cost than the name-brand

@kansas bob earlier you gave someone crap for citing 'irrelevant sources' and then you go ahead and say "i have read about several problems". you're not better for not citing your own references, and you give someone a hard time about the same thing! you're such a joke!

I have a power wagon and have gone offroad with a raptor and it cant compare in the rocky and muddy terrain raptor is designed for desert racing not for typical off-road applications and they have poor road manners

I am so sick of people on here commenting about the power wagon needing a diesel.This is not a concept truck.If u need a diesel buy a 2500 Ram truck not a power wagon.This truck is perfect the way it is.

i don't believe GM trucks are feminine but ok

everybody is entitled to opinions, including those that test the vehicles.

Here are my observations-

ford

-they use the same body design for ages, with periodic nose and interior restylng every-so-often.

Gas engines were lacking in power compared to gm and dodge until recently, and the diesels are lightyears ahead of the junk they made in the 80's-early 90's.

Fit/finish,and quality of materials was always better than gm/dodge-hands down. The sales numbers have been on top since the mid-late 70's, and that pretty much says everything.

Gm- always a good machine with bulletproof gas engines and transmissions. Interiors are a joke until 1999 models debuted.

New Allison duramax is an animal!

Dodge- used ancient design from 72-93 with minimal changes.cummins put diesels on the map in 89 as far as popularity goes. I think that woke up ford and gm as to start making better diesel powerplants. Back in the day, nobody had diesel pickups and it was cheap at the pumps,too!

94-01 ram was a great truck, but they rust and disintegrate fast (in the northeast,anyway). Gas engines are good, but terrible mpg!

New ones are great except for cheap interior and tin bumpers.

The big 3 make great trucks and each of them has positives/negatives. I have owned all of them, so I am speaking from experience; you cannot make a purchase decision based on magazine tests and commentary. Your best bet is to go to the dealer and drive each model, then make a decision.

Put diesel in it. There are not many gas stations in the woods. Diesel will double the range and no need waste bed space for gas canisters.

HEY DODGE.........give us THIS TRUCK, but please add the long bed (not DRW!) WITH THE CUMMINS!!!

as retired logger from the northwest ,plus a cowboy and bear hunter / hounds , i find the power wagon to be the cats meow ,with a roar,,i had a 2007 PW,was a lemon ,,now own a 2012,laramie,tis a beast very nice improvements ,,next time you have yer test ,give me an invite ,I will take all challengers and i do mean take ,,as i been 4 wheelin since i was 14 in the hills of eastern Oregon and know what a great 4 wheel drive beast is ,and i just so happen to be driving it ,,now don't be putting it down just becuz you can't afford to buy and then maintain one,,as yes they are spendy ,,but then so is a good woman ,,,but they be worth it



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