2013 Ford F-150 King Ranch Debuts at Fair

2Ford F-150 King Ranch Debuts at Fair

Ford chose the State Fair of Texas, which runs today through Oct. 21, to reveal the 2013 Ford F-150 King Ranch. The 2013 package will continue to be offered with the 5.0-liter V-8 and 3.5-liter EcoBoost engines, but it will now will include the new MyFord Touch system and upgrades, as well as a host of other trim-exclusive interior upgrades.

The new MyFord Touch setup is mated with a completely new center stack, similar to the changes seen on the new Super Duty, yet it's more integrated into the dash layout to give the F-150 system a distinct look compared with the beefier layout on the Super Duty.

This will be the 12th year Ford has offered a special King Ranch model, which is now part of 10 newly updated models. When the package was introduced, it was the most upscale model in the Ford lineup, sitting just above the Lariat. Now, there are two higher trim packages above the King Ranch: Platinum and the new-for-2013 Limited.

Expect the western theme to get even more popular as full-size pickups continue to sell well in Texas and the Southwest. Ram continues to have strong success with its Longhorn Edition pickups, and the 2014 Chevy Silverado is reported to be offered in a High Country trim package when the new truck comes out.

The 2013 King Ranch F-150 Super Crew will start at $44,510 and will arrive at dealers in the next several months.

Ford F-150 King Ranch Debuts at Fair


Ooh, look, a toy for rich people that don't know what pickup trucks are made for. I'm looking at you, Texas. 98 out of 100 pickup truck drivers don't need trucks. 99 are shitty, overconfident drivers that think they deserve more road than anyone else. I am so glad that gas prices skyrocketed.

@ andrew: If I make more money than you, that means I pay more taxes than you. Tax money builds roads. Also if my truck burns more fuel than yours, fuel has a road tax which means I pay more than you for the roads again. Why do I not deserve more road than you? Isn't communism where everyone is supposed to be equal? Just a thought....

The Ford
"We've been working toward a new engine for the last two and a half years," says Doug Yates, the lead man for Roush Yates Engines. "But we really were able to zero in on the design we have here once NASCAR gave us the specific parameters, specifically the maximum bore spacing allowed, in January 2008."

Roush Yates is unique because it produces the race motors for every Ford-branded NASCAR Sprint Cup team. Partly because of that, Ford allowed Roush Yates to take the lead when it came to designing the new engine. The result is a package that is purebred specifically for its stated purpose: winning Stock Car races. If you are a fan of form following function, then this is a mechanical Rembrandt.

Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_0911_nascar_race_engines/viewall.html#ixzz27nilNDvj

@Big al, How many top fuel races have you been to????????

Come on guys are you really going to compare stock street legal trucks to Nascar? Grow up, the Nascar engines are custom built engines that are so much different than what you can buy it is like comparing a Fiat to a Masseratti. How many of your guys are going to race your trucks? Let's get real.

@Leader of the Rambo Motard Goat Herder's Assoication -
You ask the question "How many top fuel races have you been to????????" but you'd save yourself a lot of trouble by asking the question " How many of you really give a sh-t about Top Fuel or their engines?"

@Lou, Good point. I just want them to quit talking out of their ass. If they new what they were talking about I would not have to go through all this to prove my point.

Top Fuel Dragsters: The fastest-accelerating vehicles in the world, these are the most recognizable of all drag race cars. The 25-foot-long landlocked missiles can cover the quarter-mile in 4.4 seconds at speeds faster than 335 mph. The engine of choice is an aluminum version of the famous Chrysler Hemi. The supercharged, fuel-injected nitromethane-burning engines produce an estimated 7,000 horsepower.

The engine of choice is an aluminum version of the famous Chrysler Hemi.


The mopar trolls are friggin retarded.

@Frank they sure are man

@Rambo - I wasn't supporting your argument. Why keep making hemi dragster posts when most of us do not give a sh-t? This is Pickup Trucks dot com not "Useless in the Real World dot com".

@HarleyF150 - I find it funny that you would agree that someone else has retarded posts. Please re-read your contributions to this post.

@Frank,@GirlyF150,@Lou, Knowledge is POWER. @FLASH IF YOU CAN READ CHECK THIS OUT. 500-cubic-inch Hemi
Based off of Chrysler Corporation's Hemi engine, the 500-cubic-inch (NHRA maximum) engine is the heart of the Top Fuel Dragster. The Top Fuel Dragster engine uses 12 gallons of the nitromethane and methanol mix per run. A 14-71 (semi-trucks use an 8-71) supercharger is needed to burn at that fuel in such short amount of time.

The Hemi engine got its name from the hemispherical shape of the cylinder head. This hemi shape allows the fuel-air mixture to be compressed more before igniting it which creates more power. The 426 Hemi is regarded as the best muscle car engine, so using the best engine design for horsepower makes sense when you are trying to go as fast as possible in ¼ mile.

The engine used to be in front of the driver until Don Garlits had a sever engine explosion that almost cost him his life. The engine exploded severed the chassis right where his feet where. Luckily, he only lost small piece on one foot. Garlits decided to make a new rear-engine dragster for safety concerns. After beating all the front-motored dragsters with his new design, the rear-engine dragster became the standard. Front-engine dragsters are still raced today in nostalgia class.

The 426 Hemi is regarded as the best muscle car engine, so using the best engine design for horsepower makes sense when you are trying to go as fast as possible in ¼ mile.

@Rambo - "The Hemi engine got its name from the hemispherical shape of the cylinder head."

but the 5.7 Chrysler engine has a wedge shaped cyclinder head.

Why does Chrysler call it a hemi?

Pursuant to that question, Chrysler had a Mitsubishi 4 banger that was also called a "Hemi".
It did NOT have a hemispherical shape to its cylinder head.

If that is the case - why does Chrysler keep using the "Hemi" name on engines that DO NOT have a hemispherical head?

BTW - the current 5.7 head was actually patterned after a Porsche design.

BTW - Porsche is owned by VW not Fiat.

Answer - What is advertising hyperbole?

No different than Ford calling the Mustang II a Cobra.

They do it because there are people out there that lap up every word.

The 5.7 is a good engine, even if it isn't really a hemi.

@Lou, The 5.7L Hemi is a unique engine. What makes a Hemi better then a wedge is the valve location. The valves are directly across from each other. In one side. Out the other. It breaths better. The air has a straight shot. The 5.7L Hemi has a unique shape. Thermal dynamics play a big role in that shape. This engine is a good engine for sure. It has the valve train of an old Hemi design. It has two spark plugs per cylinder. These plugs are directly on top of the cylinder for better flame travel. Two rocker shafts. Two valves per cylinder. All like the old Hemi design. Hemi's have always shined above wedge designs when they are forced induced. Again because of the valve location. That is coming from Don Purdome. I meet him personally along with Don Garlits. Google them.

The trolls are out on a Friday night. It looks like Lou has stolen the keyboard from Frank. Well to pickuptruckstrolls.com

@Lou, How come Ford has called their engine "ECO" Boost V6 that is no better at gas mileage then the 5.0 V8 NONE ECO????

Mike Levine and Mark Williams got around 25 mpg in their road test on EcoBoost. They said it was the best mileage they have ever gotten in a full-size. I will see if I can find it.

Found it...

by Mike Levine and Mark Williams

on page 2 of the Road Test Review of the 2011 F-150 EcoBoost

"In contrast to the truck and trailer combo, the unloaded truck amazed us with its fuel economy. Dropping back from 70 mph to 60-65 mph raised its gas mileage from 18 mpg to the low 20s without even trying, even when we were high in the Rockies where the air is thin."

"During a 300-mile stretch of highway — where we refueled just outside Vail, Colo., and headed east across the Rockies to Dillon, Colo., and then traveled back west to the Utah border — there were moments when the truck’s trip computer told us we were averaging over 25 mpg. We finished that segment averaging a manually calculated 23.2 mpg – the best fuel economy we can recall over such a long distance in a full-size gas pickup truck."


No better? It's the best they have ever gotten in a ful-size truck.

@Tom, Read this=http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/04/consumer-reports-f-150-ecoboost-beats-v8-for-towing-not/

@Lou: the new Hemi is not like a wedge at all. The wedge has the intake and exhaust side by side, E-I-I-E-E-I-I-E, the Hemi has always had the intake valve on the top side of the engine, the exhaust valve on the lower side, neither valve is further forward or backward, unlike some other canted valve engines. The exhaust comes out almost under the head vs the 5.2/5.9 Magnum or earlier 273/318/340/360 Wedge which the exhaust comes straight out to the side of the head. The new hemi still needs two rocker shafts per head. The old FACTORY Hemis were 1 plug per cylinder. The new one also uses the same bellhousing pattern as the 5.2/5.9 Wedge/Magnum. The Wedge and magnum have the same side by side valves, but a modern day Magnum, as used until 2003 5.9, will be a much smaller closed chamber head, but no rocker arm shafts-Jeep type rockers which are a world better then stud mounted Chevy rockers.

The new one is much smaller on deck height, bore spacing,

@ Rambo Motard president - Yes, Ecoboost is a prime example of advertising hyperbole.
Just like calling the 5.7 a hemi.
Chrylser owns the rights to that name and can put it on anything they want.

You didn't have an answer for that 4 banger Mistsubishi that was called a hemi.

BTW - when did forced induction come into the explanation of the 5.7?
How many other engines exist that have a similar architecture to the 5.7?
Sounds like you are discribing most older engine designs.
That configuration does not breath better -ever wonder why the 5.7 is a wedge design and not a REAL hemi?
Ever wonder why the 5.7 NEEDS 2 spark plugs?
How about poor flame propagation.

Large valves breath best at high RPM - not the typical RPM range of a p/u.
If a hemispherical design was truly superior in this day and age - then explain why Chrysler does not use a true hemispherical head design?
Why doesn't anyone else use a true hemispherical head design?

Chrysler only owns the rights to the name, not the patent on the hemi design.

Since you love cut and paste:
"HEMI Advantages
The last item in the above list is one of the key advantages of the HEMI head versus the flathead engine. Surface area causes heat loss. Fuel that is near the head walls may be so cool that it does not burn efficiently. With a flat head, the amount of surface area relative to volume of the combustion chamber is large. In a HEMI engine, the surface area is much smaller than in a flat head, so less heat escapes and peak pressure can be higher.

Another factor with a HEMI head is the size of the valves. Since the valves are on opposite sides of the head, there is more room for valves. The engine design that preceded the HEMI was a wedge-shaped combustion chamber with the valves in line with each other. The inline arrangement limited valve size. In a HEMI engine, valves can be large so the airflow through the engine is improved.

HEMI Disadvantages
If HEMI engines have all these advantages, why aren't all engines using hemispherical heads? It's because there are even better configurations available today.

One thing that a hemispherical head will never have is four valves per cylinder. The valve angles would be so crazy that the head would be nearly impossible to design. Having only two valves per cylinder is not an issue in drag racing or NASCAR because racing engines are limited to two valves per cylinder in these categories. But on the street, four slightly smaller valves let an engine breathe easier than two large valves. Modern engines use a pentroof design to accommodate four valves.

Another reason most high-performance engines no longer use a HEMI design is the desire to create a smaller combustion chamber. Small chambers further reduce the heat lost during combustion, and also shorten the distance the flame front must travel during combustion. The compact pentroof design is helpful here, as well."


As this "cut and paste" points out - the only reason the hemi has an advantage with 2 valves per cylinder is the fact that race rules don't allow anything else.

There are other designs that are superior to the hemi.

For example:
Ferrari has engines with similar displacements to the 5.7 and 6.2 and they make way more horsepower.
If the 5.7 is superior, why is the Maserati based Jeep going to use a Maserati designed engine built for them by Ferrari?

North American Chrysler facilities are at full capacity wheras Fiat's Italian operations are hurting.
We will see European built Chrysler products showing up at a dealership near you well before Fiat builds more assembly capacity in the USA.

As previously mentioned, the 5.7 is a good engine, but It isn't really a hemi.

@TRX4 Tom - thank you. I stand corrected. I'm not sure where I got that impression from.
I still stand by the comment that it isn't really a hemi,or based off the original Chrysler hemi.
I will finish with the last line of the story from the link I provided:
"The natural course of engineering evolution has moved Chrysler's hero powerplant far from its Porsche roots and severed all ties to the Hemis of yore. Even though it isn't a genuine hemi, this engine still packs a powerful punch as a marketing ploy."

It is a refreshing change having a converstion with a Ram fan that actually knows what they are talking about.

How did a story on the F-150 King Ranch get turned into another Hemi debate?

@Hemi V8
I've been to quite a few. You would have been 6 years old.

Believe it or not Top Fuel is quite a big sport in Australia.

Remember the McGee engine issue. NHRA wouldn't allow it to compete against the existing top fuel engines. So they made a formula so only US sourced engines could be used.

@Hemi V8
Here is a top fuel funny car video done from the grandstand.


@Tim - touche

@Hemi V8
If you're into drag racing this video goes for about 10 minutes. It's from Perth in Western Australia.

It'll give you and idea on drag racing in Australia from bikes, rails, pro stockers, and road registered cars.


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@Big Al from Oz I go back to 1966 and the DragFest at Castlereagh they did not run Nitro.
Blond Haired fellow nearest the Camera is my cousins Husband(He was part of a Austin Healey Sprite Club asked them to give a hand! Early days for Australian Drag Racing). Driver is the late Tony Nancy in his non-Hemi Rear Engine GasDragster. Most Dragsters in the 1960's had the engine in front of the driver and were called "slingshots"

Since its introduction in the 1950s, no other engine has come close to equaling the role the Chrysler Hemi has played in Top Fuel drag racing or on the salt flats.
Hot rodding pioneers like Joe Mondello did great things with Oldsmobile engines as Mickey Thompson did with Pontiacs, and Tommy Ivo did with Buicks. But the Chrysler 392 quickly became the engine of choice on the strip, as well as on the salt, and the dry lakes.

The 392 was built to last. I've owned one, a '58, which I bought when I lived in Harrisburg, North Carolina. I can tell you that having carried all three, a stock 392 cylinder head feels more than twice as heavy as a Donovan small block Chevy block or a Holman and Moody aluminum 427 Ford block. Even a water pump off a 392 weighs more than two or three good mountain bikes. But if the Hemi hadn't been built so stout, it never would have survived to achieve its status.

Once the Hemi had established its dominance in drag racing, engineering visionaries that included Keith Black designed and produced reinforced aluminum blocks and free-breathing aluminum heads for the Hemi which were better suited to blown and injected nitro racing.

To this day the engines used in virtually all Top Fuel cars and Funny Cars, back to the Keith Black engines, and the JP1 engines that were made by the late Joe Paisano, are all based on the Chrysler 426 Hemi.

It's unfortunate that there are some of you that have yet to experience the sound of a Hemi on nitro. I'll extend myself just a tad by summing it up this way:

"Now I've been to church and I've been to the drags, and brothers and sisters, for those of you who have never heard a Hemi on nitro, get thee to the drag strip when the Fuel cars are running. Get thee a pit pass, and bring thyself to a Fuel car being tuned up. Listen to the overwhelming sound of what must be the closest thing you can hear in this life to The Sound Of God. Reach out, brothers and sisters, and bask in the glory of the almighty Hemi. For I have heard the Hemi testify. And I believe! Yayass, I believe."

Sung to the tune of Evita.

And the Hemi spam kept rolling in from every side
Hemi's spam reached out and it reached wide
Now you may feel he should stay on topic?
But that's not the point my friends!
When the Hemi spam keeps rolling in, you don't ask how
Think of all the allpar nuts guaranteed a good time now!
Hemi's called the spammers to pickuptrucks.com, open up the doors
Never been a spammer like the Hemi boys

Rollin' rollin' rollin', rollin' rollin' rollin'
Rollin' rollin' rollin', rollin' rollin' rollin'
Rollin' rollin' rollin', rollin' rollin' rollin'
Rollin' rollin' rollin', rollin' rollin' rollin'

Rollin' on in, rollin' on in
Rollin' on in, rollin' on in
On in

@Robert Ryan
I used go to the drags at least once a month. I knew a bloke back in 81 who used to race his HQ van with a 308 of all things. The original engine pulled 13.6.

The engine he bought came out of a Torana Pro Stocker that used to pull 10s. Used to put push rods through the rocker arms all the time. After 5 000km the engine needed a rebuild so he had a lot of work done to the heads. Had studs put in and roller rockers. etc.

On the street he used his 780 with vacuum secondaries and at the drags he ran a 800 double pumper. It pulled 12.4 at 108mph in the end.

He had a lot of tricky stuff, Muncie box, Speco shifter, Caine manifold, valve guide plates etc.

The Salisbury diff was a piece of junk. Diff rebuilds were done every month.

I was at Castlereagh when Jim Reed was the first in Australia to pull 5s in 1981?



if you noticed when toyota entered nascar they bought teams from all 3 manufacturers. then came out with an engine. kinda combined all three ya think.



@Robert Ryan
I'm not much into racing like I used to be. I like to watch and read some of the bull$hit people post on this site. I'm into aircraft now.

Back when I had my business I had a big idea to build a 620 Datsun ute into rallying. Built the engine and everything. Had a roadway stanza box with billets gears and everything. The engine a L200 from a 200B was bored out to about 2.2 litres, Webbers. Had heaps done to the heads. Inlet ports opened up from 33mm to 41mm, valve guide bosses machined back. It was quick.

I read with interest the 265 Hemi engine from the E49, because I think I did the same with the 200B engine. My first cam was to big a 44/74, used to idle at 1 400rpm. I then talked to a guy who raced L series Datsun engine and he told me to put in a 35/65 grind with an extra 90thou of lift. But I had to be careful as I had already taken 40 thou off the heads and 25 thou of the block.

I nearly had it finished. I just needed to replace the front brakes with brakes from a 260Z but never finished to project.

I had a lot of fun driving it.

"Now I've been to church and I've been to the drags, and brothers and sisters, for those of you who have never heard a Hemi on nitro, get thee to the drag strip when the Fuel cars are running. Get thee a pit pass, and bring thyself to a Fuel car being tuned up. Listen to the overwhelming sound of what must be the closest thing you can hear in this life to The Sound Of God. Reach out, brothers and sisters, and bask in the glory of the almighty Hemi. For I have heard the Hemi testify. And I believe! Yayass, I believe."

@Big Al from oz Not trying to wander off too far from topic. I had a chat to a fellow who was trying to tune the Mcgees V8 in the US in Sydney. Talked to Gary Beck over the phone about Australia and the Mcgee Fueller(Contact through a friend) he worked in the US Housing Industry at the time.Finally toured Stan Sainty's Engineering workshop in Wentworthville.

Check out this twin turbo MOPAR.


@Robert Ryan
Most of it is relevant. Most everyone love horsepower and tyre smoke.

I think the moderator of this site must realise that a lot of readers are V8 freaks (sometimes narrow minded) and any form of motor racing would interest them.

People who use utes/pickups/4x4s come from a wide and diverse range of the population and many countries as well. We ought to consider ourselves lucky we can have these types of toys/tools.

The same goes for the luxury end of the spectrum. People will end up talking politics, have and have nots.

And the green type of vehicles will bring out other attitudes.

But its all good and people hopefully can distinguish between BS and good input.

We can all learn from each other. Well, except maybe Hemi V8, but he can sometimes be entertaining and at other times pathetic :)



@HEMI V8 a 1973 Ford Falcon XB GT with a 351 cu in Cleveland(Australian Block). Supercharger was a dummy.

@Big Al from Oz - I think that you are correct. Big pickups sell partially because of big V8's.
All of the "big" cars have died.
Big SUV's are heading towards extinction.
What is left?
Big pickups.
The "size matters" crowd is aging and eventually we will be a footnote in history.
Big pickups (at least big 1/2 tons) will fade away with us.
That is how I see it.

My wife has decided she likes my truck more than her mini-van. When it comes time to replace her van, we will cross-shop V6 pickups and small SUV's.

Lou, Not only size matters horsepower matters. I tow a heavy trailer. Try driving a heavy trailer in downtown L.A. traffic with a gutless engine. Or climbing Cajon pass under 55mph. Scary is what it is. So don't buy a big V8 since you don't tow. Let me have my powerful V8 for what I need it for towing. Don't ASSume everyone needs a V6. Or a gutless V8. I will take power over economy for my safety out on the highway thank you very much.

I'll take that grill. It's not so overwhelming and "In Your Face".

Still too big. Still too expensive. Still two too many doors.

@Rambo Motard Goat Herder's Association President- "Try driving a heavy trailer in downtown L.A. traffic with a gutless engine."
I thought you said your 5.7 was powerful?
Thanks for clarifying everything.

I did not say people could get by with a V6. I feel that eventually big 1/2 ton pickups will go the way of big cars = extinction. HD pickups will still exist. Globals will most likely fill the void. 10 dollar a gallon gasoline will do a great job of culling the herd.
People compensate for being poor drivers by having tons of horsepower.
I see it every day.

You are "ASS"uming a lot about my driving history.

@Lou, Is french your first language? You comment about the size matters club was sarcastic. What works for you doesn't work for me. Thank god we have choices. I tow a heavy trailer so having a powerful hemi engine allows me to merge onto roadways without getting run over. My next truck if they build it is going to be a 6.4L V8 so I can pull my trailer up mountains and merge into traffic faster and safer. Keep your gutless 5.4L and your worthless V6 truck. Neither would meet my needs. That is why I drive the most powerful 1/2 ton on the road in 03. To get the load moving.

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