GM trucks outsell Ford in the month of January. And they did it without their new trucks for 2014. It looks like Ford and Dodge are heading back to the drawing board or they will be left behind. I love it, all the bashing by the Ford and Dodge boys on how outdated the GM trucks are. But they outsell both Ford and Dodge trucks. I guess reliability and low cost to maintain still means something today for the truck buyer. Keep your Ford and Dodge trucks if you need a hobby because theyn will keep you busy on the weekends working on them.

"GM trucks outsell Ford in the month of January."

Pathetic, GM needs two truck lines.

@Troll Greg,

You should be worried, that compact/mid/almost full Tacoma is going to whoop on the Tierra, err I mean Sierra.

Of course GM outsold Ford. With all of the available rebates, who could resist? $5k-$8k off the sicker price BEFORE negotiations. I would hope they sell.

Yeah, they need 2 truck lines to try and outsell Ford. Where I live the incentives and rebates are crazy not to mention all the dealers are offering buy one get one free. Buy a new silverado and get a chebby cruz for free. Reminds me of the Yugo days. We all know what happened to them!!

Around here Ford is offering 6000$ off sticker and I still won't buy one!!!!!

Yea, I have to agree with WhOUbU. The chevy dealer here is advertising $5000 off plus a free generator; never mind what you get off at the negotiating table. I haven't seen any deals like that from Ford, Dodge, or Toyota on their trucks. Makes me wonder what kind of resale value the GMT-900 trucks will have?

I'm surprised Ram only showed a 14% increase with all new trucks. That must concern them somewhat. GM is giving theirs away with the great deals, so that makes sense to see huge numbers from them. I'm also a little surprised Ford's numbers are that high. It looks like they are all selling well.

Post bailout, Ram has been brought back to reality. 14.3%. You won't be seeing any more of those huge 50% increases.

January 2008: 19,902 pre-bankrupty-bailout
Juary 2013: 20,474 post-bankruptcy-bailout

I can hear HEMI V8 already:

"This is the year that Ram will be overtaking Che.... wait. what? Ram has the lowest sales increase percentage of any of the big three. er, four, er six, uh, I mean, could barely best the Nissan Titan and the Honda Ridgeline in increase percentage? What just happened?"

I am glad to see all truck increases. Hopefully this trend will continue and the economy will continue to go up and the unemployment rate will go down. This is great news.

I see Ram is well on their way on overtaking Chevy in 2013.... Buahahaha!!!
Mopar retards! Where are you?

I am surprised that Frontier sales went down. With just Frontier and Tacoma being the only players in the midsize market except maybe Ridgeline, Frontier should have made more of a gain. Tacoma's increase doesn't surprise me. It will be interesting to see how the new Colorado/Canyons do when they come out.

Makes you wonder if the GM loyalist were waiting for the new truck lines to come out then saw how ugly and uninspiring they were so now they are getting the 12's before they are gone! Plus i am sure the huge inventory and cash on the hoods is helping out as well. That's they only way the could get such an increase overnight.

For the folks they are making the anti Ram comments: The eight speed has yet to be on a lot (atleast in a truck), same with the v-6 in a truck, and air suspensions, and 6'4" crew cabs. The main differances you see on the already out there 2013 Ram 1500s is the new dash/center stack, new front end.

The new for 2013s Ram HDs aren't out.

When they get there full lineup out, we will see how they sell, but if you knew the 8 speed/v-6/air suspension and all was comming out, you would be waiting.

Now if you just decided you wanted a new truck, and just looked at gas mileage per v-8 and initial price, you might end up in a Chevy, seeing as how they sell so cheap cause they are so overstocked. Most people that see the new 2014 Chevy are are like "you gotta be kidding me?!" LOL, yeah, they will sell alot of those, lol! Maybe 10 people will comment after this and tell me all about how they can't wait for a old brick looking design, ok, Michigan Bob, and 10 people, then 10 other names he goes by, lol!

Watch the GM folks get all excited cause they get upgraded engines (that will be outdone by all the others for 2014 or easily 2015....) Big deal, the 6.2 gets direct injection, I bet it barely picks up much power, but then again, it barely makes more the .5L smaller Hemi. Maybe then it won't require premium? The 4.3? We will see, but I bet it won't get that great mileage (that's a good part of the reason people buy a v-6, right?) and wow, you might get 375 ft pounds torque, but more like 360-365 ft pounds is more like it. It won't get that great of mileage without being very aero, and 6 speeds are gonna be old school.

So yeah Greg and Bob, (and all your aliases) and your 10 friends, do your happy dance now. While you can.

Excuses.

Ram has plenty of time to get their ship together.

The idea of Ram taking over Chevy and Ford is over.

*had plenty of time

GUTS
GLORY
RAM BUYERS ARE WAITING
HEMI 8 SPEED, CC LONG BED, AIR BAGS AVAILABLE SOON
HD REFRESH
SALES WILL EXPLODE IN FEBRUARY AND LATER IN 2013!
OH YEAH
RAM!!!

GUTS
GLORY
THE BEST "RETAIL SALES" IN THE BUSINESS
OVERTAKING CHEVY AND FORD RETAIL SALES IN 2013
RAM!!!!!!!!!!

Good to see positive numbers...im not loyal to any brand, we have a sierra, ram and a ford in the drive, wish i could make one out of the three, they all have things that make me wonder what the heck the engineers and designers are thinking, i always have chuckle at most comments, its great to see people defend their brands, a great one is gm twin trucks oh so terrible, but ford also runs two styles of truck ,nobody seems to have a problem with that, then dodge or ram built in mexico....who cares, take a look at your kids toys......try and find 1 made in canada or the us....nope all in china. We all know how much markup on trucks is, maybe we should beeotch about that.......cheers all

THE PLAN IS WORKING!!!

CHRYSLER TRYING TO REDUCE FLEET SALES FOR MORE PROFIT. Sergio Marchionne promised to wean Chrysler off its reliance on fleet sales, shortly after taking over leadership of the company. Despite increased commercial-vehicle sales, Chrysler finished 2012 with 74% of its U.S. sales going to retail buyers, rather than fleets, an improvement over 2011, when 72% of sales were retail. General Motors also sold 74% of its cars at retail, while Ford sold just 70% on the retail market. That makes Ford the fleet-queen leader for 2012. Imports tend to have nearly all their sales in the retail market, though part of the difference may be having fewer truck sales. Nissan has the largest fleet share at 15% (85% retail), possibly partly due to the success of their commercial vans, but likely because of the Versa’s popularity in rental fleets (it combines a low price with a relatively large interior). Toyota was 90% retail, Honda 98%, and Hyundai-Kia 90%.

Read more at: http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2013/01/chrysler-relying-less-on-fleet-sales

@Frank & Lou, But ford also runs two styles of truck, nobody seems to have a problem with that!

@ Jeff S,

Unemployment went up last month and the economy is not going great unless your part of the top 5%...

Sales are only part of the picture. The rest is how much money they're making. Any of them can sell a $%^-load at a discount for a little while.

@hemiman - are you refering to HD's? Ford has the biggest seperation in looks between their HD's and LD's. What is in common between a Ram HD and LD? or Chevy 1500 and HD? They're sized and built differently. Ford hasn't had 2 pickup lines unless you count the Lincoln mark LT. They seemed to like it in Mexico. Mercury hasn't been a badge on a pickup in decades.

I noticed that Chevy/GM was offereing 7,500 rebates plus 2 year maintenance contracts on their trucks sold in the USA.
Ford - 500 rebate (F150)
Ram - 1,000 rebate (1500)
GMC inventories have been exceptionally high even before the alleged buildup to retolling for the 2014's.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/08/chart-of-the-day-gm-full-size-truck-inventory-12010-82012/

Didn't someone report that GMC was counting vehicles in the dealer pipeline as sold?

@Greg - when I read your posts it makes me wonder how the USA ever became a global super power.

@TRX4 Tom
If so many are waiting for the "new" Rams why did the other manufacturers pick up markedly in the sales figures? Wouldn't they have reduced sales as well as Ram?

Doh, I didn't see that!

@Hemi V8
Do you really think Fiat/Chrysler/Ram will not sell me 250 pickups at once? Without a discount and other incentitives.

Man, you two are incredible and simple.

Tacoma almost caught Sierra. Toyota combined sales beat Sierra sales and are 1,848 units shy of Ram. 2 old outdated LD trucks almost outselling a more up to date LD and HD line?
Maybe the Toyota guys should be stealing the SheepHerder saying "We are going to take out Ram for 2013". LOL
What goes around comes around.

Once Ram and GM have their full line released they will likely spike a bit. Ford should continue along at their current pace. Toyota will depend on what happens on Feb 7. If it's just a fresh face update they will only sell to guys who want a Tundra regardless. If it's something special maybe they can swipe some sales from the big 3. I wonder how many GM guys are buying trucks not knowing there's a new one coming?

It's good to be a truck guy right now...

@Jeff S
It's good to see a greater number of vehicles selling in the US. I just hope it gets better.

The drop in the US's GDP etc that oxi was describing I read about. They think its a very short term issue regarding the drawback of the US out of Afghanistan.

It shows how expensive war is to a country and that doesn't include the human costs.

I like the way that some poster's on this site only post partial data and information without providing a complete picture. This distorts arguments, but it suits oxi's anarchy theory and escaping in his Tacoma to the Northwest Territories to evade the pending apocalypse.

@Big Al from Oz - I doubt Oxi would ever make it to Canada. He is around 500 km south of Canada. His overloaded Tacoma and 21 gallon USA tank wouldn't even get him to our border. All of those zombie's and trigger happy NRA types would most likely get in the way of his escape plans even if he had the fuel range.

after seeing the new gm trucks look just like the old gm trucks people bought them up and saved 15 grand in the process.

Actually chevy has 4 trucks 1500 and 2500 from chevy and a 1500 and a 2500 from gmc so actually chevrolet has 4 truck lines to fords 2 and still lose.

the fords have the best interior with mopar a close second and chevy/gmc a distant third

I'd call ford and dodge to close to call on outside looks with the tundra easily being the ugliest inside and out and the new and old chevy trucks still looking boxy and ugly but toyota claims the wtf award!

The bottom line is as it has been for the last 33 yrs is nothing is better then a ford truck.If that wasn't the truth people woulden't come back again and again and make ford the sales leader over and over.Now ford is carrying all that into the rest of there line up and it shows with ford being ranked 2 behind toyota in quality in there car line and ford stomping toyota in there truck line. Great job ford and great job on the atlas desined off the raptor truck.Meanest looking concept ever and i'm sure the 2014 atlas will look very close to that truck.

GUTS
GLORY
RAM BUYERS ARE WAITING
HEMI 8 SPEED, CC LONG BED, AIR BAGS AVAILABLE SOON
HD REFRESH
SALES WILL EXPLODE IN FEBRUARY AND LATER IN 2013!
OH YEAH
RAM!!!

Posted by: HEMI V8 8 SPEED | Feb 1, 2013 7:48:30 PM

GUTS
GLORY
THE BEST "RETAIL SALES" IN THE BUSINESS
OVERTAKING CHEVY AND FORD RETAIL SALES IN 2013
RAM!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: HEMI V8 8 SPEED | Feb 1, 2013 7:50:41 PM

THE PLAN IS WORKING!!!

CHRYSLER TRYING TO REDUCE FLEET SALES FOR MORE PROFIT. Sergio Marchionne promised to wean Chrysler off its reliance on fleet sales, shortly after taking over leadership of the company. Despite increased commercial-vehicle sales, Chrysler finished 2012 with 74% of its U.S. sales going to retail buyers, rather than fleets, an improvement over 2011, when 72% of sales were retail. General Motors also sold 74% of its cars at retail, while Ford sold just 70% on the retail market. That makes Ford the fleet-queen leader for 2012. Imports tend to have nearly all their sales in the retail market, though part of the difference may be having fewer truck sales. Nissan has the largest fleet share at 15% (85% retail), possibly partly due to the success of their commercial vans, but likely because of the Versa’s popularity in rental fleets (it combines a low price with a relatively large interior). Toyota was 90% retail, Honda 98%, and Hyundai-Kia 90%.

Read more at: http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2013/01/chrysler-relying-less-on-fleet-sales

Posted by: HEMI | Feb 1, 2013 8:07:53 PM\

GUTS
GLORY
RAM

RANGER! RANGER! Oh.. MINUS 100%... Thanks for killing the Ranger, Ford! Could've renamed it the F100 and clumped it in with F series sales, but I suppose depriving us of a proper compact pick up truck was more important. Thankfully there's tons of used Rangers out there.

Well atleast GM is finally getting them old 900's sold, or atleast some of them.

I think that Ram is the class leader pointing the direction all of the automakers will head towards. Posted by: Lou | Apr 13, 2012 3:14:19 PM

It's not only GM that is has rebates, Ford and Ram have $10,000 off thier diesel pick-ups, Ford is offering a free Fiesta with retail purchase price of HD trucks,, Ram has $5000 off their 1/2 ton Hemi Laramie trucks, GM is definatly rebating their 2012 line up move them out for the 2014 change over. I am surorised that Ram sales were so weak. I have to hand it to GM for selling so good with a 7 year old design, goes to show , 2 line ups or not , they are the same truck and always have been. Haters say they are the same truck when bashing them, then do a 180 when it comes to talking sales numbers.
Congrats again to Ford for selling so many trucks, GM and Ford have a huge loyal customer base, and always will, they are both great trucks, so is the Ram for that matter, just doesn't seem to be able to come near the other 2. I like the new 2013 Fords, seen several on the road lately , grill looks good.

Holy cow, GM sales are increasing even with an older model. This has got to be a kick to Ram with thier newer truck. Ford keeps kicking but even with thier same old.
Our 2013 Ram 3500 that is on order has been delayed yet another 2 weeks, kind of upsetting that by the time it arrives it will be April now, the 2014 will be out shortly after that. If they don't get production going soon i will cancel and get another Duramax and wait till 2016 to try for another Ram.

Congratulations GM on outselling ford despite the huge incentives ford has!

One sour note...

After finishing 2012 with a pickup inventory almost in line with targets, GM yesterday reported that the number of trucks it has on hand rose to a 117-day supply at the end of January from 80 a month earlier.

Business Week

Dave, So what? 117 days is only 4 months. Everything is going exactly has planned. Just when GM is selling off the last of the 2013, the 2014 next gens will be rolling in! Thank you.

FORD - THE BEST OF THE BEST IN EVERY WAY!!!

BEST LOOKING TRUCK!

BEST TOWING TRUCK!

BEST PAYLOAD TRUCK!

BEST PERFORMANCE TRUCK!

BEST SELLING TRUCK!

BEST SAFETY TRUCK!

GREAT GOB FORD!!!

FORD - THE BEST OF THE BEST IN EVERY WAY!!!

BEST LOOKING TRUCK!

BEST TOWING TRUCK!

BEST PAYLOAD TRUCK!

BEST PERFORMANCE TRUCK!

BEST SELLING TRUCK!

BEST SAFETY TRUCK!

GREAT JOB FORD!!!

FORD - THE BEST OF THE BEST IN EVERY WAY!!!

BEST LOOKING TRUCK!

BEST TOWING TRUCK!

BEST PAYLOAD TRUCK!

BEST PERFORMANCE TRUCK!

BEST SELLING TRUCK!

BEST SAFETY TRUCK!

GREAT JOB FORD!!!

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Cheap Heavy Equipment Very Rusty Overly Loved Eventuly Towed

Dodge Dead On Delivery Go Easy

all the chevy girly girls are gonna be mad i said that.GM needs 2 trucks how girly is that,

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@Big Al and Lou--Building has picked up and durable goods orders too. Sure the economy is far from perfect but the economy has been thawing out. Many traditional truck buyers are in the construction industry and service industry and those businesses are seeing an uptick in business and with the increase in business and the aging truck fleets these businesses are buying again. This is something that should be cheered. Maybe oxi will go to Mexico with his Taco and take his doom and gloom with him and hatred of American based truck makers. When the public is buying things and more people are put back to work this is something we all should feel good about.

I recently bought some new family room furniture and the good news is that more of the manufacturing of furniture is coming back to the USA. Plants that were closed in North Carolina, South Carolina, Indiana, and other states are now busy. Isn't this something that we should all celebrate? I would rather look at the positive things that are happening instead of doom and gloom. Oxi needs to get lost if that is the only thing he has got to converse about. China motors and the collapse of the US are Oxi's main topic. At least if he would talk more about approach angles and offroading that would be more positive.

WbOUbU: Therer are dealers around here, Mass. and nearby R.I. that are ginving you a PLOW AND 5-10K OFF the new Ford trucks! and when I go to trade MINE in on a new one wiht a V-8 instead of the Ecco-Boost w/problems they would not give me enough to pay it off! and I put 40% Down! and only own 17K! and the truck only have 34K on it!

@sandman4X4 --It sounds like a good time to buy. It is always good to time your purchases around such deals. I bought a new truck almost 5 years ago and got an outstanding deal. With GM dealing on their outgoing trucks Ford will deal as well. Competition is a great thing.

@sandman4x4--I was offered so little on my low mileage S-10 when I bought my new truck 5 years ago that I decided to keep it, but it was paid off and it was 9 years old. If you can sell it yourself it might be better, but otherwise most dealers will low ball you. It is more difficult if you still owe money on your truck.

"Fun to watch"

Maybe. But it wil NOT be fun to buy. Look for substantial increases in prices. Forget about any and all incentives. Corporate doesn't need them to move product and the stealerships are gouging customers harder than ever. No, it will NOT be a "fun" year to buy.