Interesting how it took them a decade to discover and take action on this issue.

Really Toyoda no way, hold on sounds kinda familiar...

@Ken Lyns
The reason is manyfold.

The trending of data to produce an accurate analysis and risk assessment of a potential problem ie, pointless replacing an item if it's not really necessary.

The cost of a replacement program and having the required spares available.

Considering this is across several brands and many models the recall would be more complex to develope in unison.

Expect more recalls of this nature in the future as more and more components are interchangable between products.

Really, Toyoda no way, hold on sounds kinda familiar...

@Ken Lyns
The reason is manyfold.

The trending of data to produce an accurate analysis and risk assessment of a potential problem ie, pointless replacing an item if it's not really necessary.

The cost of a replacement program and having the required spares available.

Considering this is across several brands and many models the recall would be more complex to develope in unison.

Expect more recalls of this nature in the future as more and more components are interchangable between products.

All 3 OEMs 'suddenly' discovered the problem and simultaneously and "voluntarily" agreed a recall? My A$$!

10 to 12 years after the fact? They were almost 'home free', but something forcesd their hand. Or else, why did they sit on it for so long?

@AllAmerican
If you have understood the article the component came from a contract supplier to many manufacturers.

I wonder if this manufacturers supplies to one of the Big 3?

Probably.

Not just Toyota in particular.

@AllAmerican
If you have understood the article the component came from a contract supplier to many manufacturers.

I wonder if this manufacturers supplies to one of the Big 3?

Probably.

Not just Toyota in particular.

@AllAmerican
If you have understood the article the component came from a contract supplier to many manufacturers.

I wonder if this manufacturers supplies to one of the Big 3?

Probably.

Not just Toyota in particular.

BAFO, So we're suposed to believe now that the recall for 4 Japanese automakers is really a recall for the big 3? Wow, dude you never quit with your attacks on Americans.

Ford and Chrysler don't use these faulty air bags.

As for GM it is still a Toyota issue...General Motors Co said Takata is a supplier, but that the problem affected only about 55,000 Pontiac Vibe (aka Toyota Matrix) cars from model year 2003 built by Toyota and sold under the Pontaiac brand. These were included in Toyota's total recall number, a GM spokesman said.

Source: Reuters

@Paul
Provide proof and link to show I'm incorrect:)

Ford don't use these airbags?

I would do some research, DM.

@Paul
Provide proof and link to show I'm incorrect:)

Ford don't use these airbags?

I would do some research, DM.

@Paul
I'm back to anti American?

Really?

I stated the Big 3 would use this companies product, you proved me very correct.

Like I stated you would be surprised who uses this company's products.

Sometimes you guys make me laugh.

@BAFO - At this point, it's airbags being recalled, regardless of what car they're in.

Reuters. Ford doesn't use it. Chrysler doesn't. Toyota used in a GM rebadge. Why do you think the Vibe was included in Toyota's recall and not GM? Because it was their problem, not GM. You can do a search - Ford and Chrsyler - don't use it. Again, you are off on another anti-American blame game in a Japanese recall thread. Way to go! You just don't quit.

This gets more rediculous every day. People bashing other brands its like a bunch of pre schoolers.

@DenverMike
Really? What did my comment say, exactly what you are telling me.

Also, that wasn't the point I responded too, was it?

Maybe you should follow the blogs a little more closely.

I only responded to the misinformed comments.

Don't you agree they should be corrected?

And Paul:) confirmed my correction with his Reuters cut and paste.

http://www.takata.com/pdf/120621_EN.pdf

So Takata doesn't supply Ford?

Read the above link.

Takata Corporation, the world’s leading automotive safety supplier, was
recently given Ford Motor Company’s prestigious “Gold” World of Excellence Award for
Automotive Electronics Excellence: Shanghai, China – Restraints Electronics.

Al is spinning again. Toyota is recalling the Vibe because it was built by them.

It's Al's full-time mission now to blame the Big 3 for anything and be anti-American, and explain away any issues that arise outside of the big 3 (Euros, Japanese, Aussies.) That's all he cares about.

The Vibe was made in the same factory as the Toyota Matrix, and the two vehicles are virtually identical. No other Big 3 vehicles have these faulty vehicles. Just the one built by Toyota under the GM name. At best your anti-American spin job trying to blame the big 3 lucked out on a technicality.

When an American manufactuer has a recall, does Al go into that post and immediately suggest Toyota has the same problem? Never. Thus his demonizing of anything American continues.

@Paul
They are American manufacturers as well. They are in fact global manufacturers like the Big 3. So quit your BS.

Why don't you research?

Really, who is putting down who here?

Grow up.

■ Takata Corporation
・Company name Takata Corporation
・Founded 1933
・Head office Akasaka 2-12-31, Minato-ku, Tokyo, Japan
・Representative Shigehisa Takada, President & COO
・Capital ¥41,862 million*
・Sales ¥382,737 million (Fiscal year ended March 31, 2012)
・Employees 36,858*
・Global network 53 plants in 20 countries spanning Japan, Asia, Europe and the
Americas*
・Main business Manufacture and sale of automotive seat belts, airbags, steering
wheels, interior trim, fabrics and child restraint systems
*

My cousing works at a Ford Transmission plant, he said he'd never buy a Ford. All the workers get drunk before work and at lunch and go back to work.

"In July and August 2012 in Japan, at scrap yards where airbags were being recycled, officials noted that airbags in some Honda vehicles deployed "strangely," adding to the probe, a U.S. spokesman for Honda said." Not a Toyota problem, Honda sparked the investigation...
"kyo-based Takata said it supplies airbags and seatbelts to major automakers including Daimler AG and Ford Motor Co as well as the Japanese brands. Some non-Japanese automakers were also supplied with the faulty airbags, Takata spokesman Toyohiro Hishikawa said. He declined to name those automakers."

Read it and reap, Takata supplies AIRBAGS and seat belts to Ford and Daimler. I'll assume GM is in on this also, since they declined to "name those automakers"

This should put the case against Big Al to rest... Unless you don't' know how to read, then you wouldn't care regardless.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/11/us-toyota-recall-idUSBRE93A04D20130411

GM and Ford don't use the defective ones. GM only used one in a roundabout way in a vehicle made by Toyota. Hence why it was a part of the Toyota recall. The attempts at bashing the United States and explaining away anything negative outside of the United States (ie, "the reason is manyfold...") is monotonus and you're boring me. I'm moving on.

The first line should have read CHRYSLER and Ford....

Why even bring up and infer Ford, GM and Chrysler are involved in a Japanese recall thread if you're not trying to bring up anti-US sentiments and try to cover for the overseas companies?

As Frank said, "This gets more rediculous every day. People bashing other brands its like a bunch of pre schoolers."

It just points to the tired argument that if the Euros/Aussies/Japs are having a problem with their pickups, it is the "supplier" problem and not the manufacturer, and the US is "worse" and we must find a way to put the heat back on the 3 OEM's although they have nothing to do with it. I think that pretty much sums it up.

As the size and scope of Tier 1 suppliers grows globally, expect more of these types of recalls that impact numerous manufacturers.

Wow, one fellow says that the same company supplied airbags to USA companies and the reaction is akin to the bombing of Pearl Harbour (no disrespect meant to lost servicemen).
Please note that Honda discovered the problem when involved in recycling airbags.
The same company most likely provided airbags to Ford and Chrysler. Perhaps further investigation indicated that the problem components did not find their way into a Ford or Chrysler product or perhaps there are no longer any affected vehicles still in service.

Why do people cling to the paranoid belief that the USA is continually under attack by outside interests?

.

What a Toyota recall?? Come on, it cant be! Not Toyota quality!

@DenverMike
You are wrong again, you must read to much propaganda by the Tea Party or from other fringe political groups.

Fox and Friends is great morning veiwing. My mother’s friend also believes Fox News is accurate, but she is getting very old and senile, but they make it simple for her to understand. You know the feeling?

@DenverMike
I sorry I will not debate you anymore, particularly after what you wrote above.

You are a stupid and dangerous person. Why would anyone deviate from the manufactures specifications regarding the use of a vehicle and a commercial vehicle carrying loads?

And you claim to be a transport operator? What a selfish, ignorant, irresponsible jerk you are. You are a hazard to your community.

I thought you stated that you use your V8 for work only. How can you possibly achieve those fuel figures.

Or you are a troll and a real fool.

I’m sorry if what I wrote offends other contributors on this site but this guy is a genuine loser.

You are a stupid and dangerous person. you are dumber than dog s................. That has been the basis for my argument since posting on PUTC

Lol! Guys, calm down.

The domestics aren't included in this recall because you can't recall what's no longer in service. Lol...

@paul: For all that you argue against it, BAFO (as you like to call him) did prove that Ford, at least, does buy product from that company. Since all that company produces is airbags, seat belts and similar products, it seems quite likely that those products are in at least some of Ford's products--whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

If I were you, I would keep my eyes glued to my mailbox for the next few months--especially if you own a Ford in the affected date range. You might be lucky--then again, you might not. Don't assume you know something as fact when you haven't done a full analysis of your own vehicle.

This is a VOLUNTARY recall on vehicles a decade old.

Frankly, I can't believe they are doing it.

It appears that the faulty airbags were made in the USA and Mexico.
Those "I hate foreign products" types are correct for once. The Japanese shouldn't expect foreigners to do a good job. They should of kept production at home. We wouldn't want profits to leave the country and it is always best to employ one's countrymen.

Where have I heard that argument before?

Deja vu perhaps.

Toyota have a lot of experience reclling cars but it doen`t matter people will still buy cars and truck from that crappy manufacturer

@BAFO - Ultimately it's up to OEMs to know exactly what products vendors are dropping off and if they perform as designed or even dangerous.

US OEMs are innocent this time, unless we hear otherwise. And yes we would've by now, but thanks for playing... Honda had issued a recall in November of 2008 on these exact airbags and subsequently recalled 1.6 million Honda and Acuras by 2011.

Takata, the airbag vendor no doubt notified all OEMs involved by November of 2008, but where exactly were Toyota, Nissan and Mazda up till now???

No, I said I drive diesel trucks professionally, since you want to change the topic. You A$$umed I didn't have separate and personal use pickups, because that's what you do best.

http://www.hondaproblems.com/problems/airbags.shtml

By October 2012, Takata concluded it was possible that the propellant in certain wafers made at its plant in Moses Lake, Washington, might be inadequately compressed, which could lead to the rupture, according to NHTSA documents.

Tokyo-based Takata said it supplies airbags and seatbelts to major automakers including Daimler AG and Ford Motor Co as well as the Japanese brands.

Have any of you ever seen a design and purchase order from any of the manf.? and read all the different types of items made? and to what spec. they are made? how to do what, and why? as that is all spelled out from the manf. to the "outside help" or contract manuf. there is nothing made to anyone elses spec. and yes there are some standard design codes and rules to adhere too, but for the most part, the items discribed, "air-bags" are designed by the vehicle manuf. and not the airbag manuf. so when something goes wrong with the item, who is at fault? and that would all depend on if it was a design fault, or manuf. fault, and how it was used by said vehicle manuf. and what was it that went wrong. With all the variables involved, it would be very hard to say just who is at fault. As we all know, I would just love to be able to lay the blame on the Japanese manuf., but to be fair, I would have to hear more about this, just the fact that is is happening to more than one manuf. that uses the air-bags, from only one airbag manuf. does seam to lay the blame on the manuf, of the devices, for now, subject to change.........

Normally I don't enjoy reading the rhetoric here but the ignorance of some people on here right now is something.

Reading and research can be your friend and it couldn't hold more true than right now.

It's very diverse here. A guy can go from actually learning something intelligent to reading a simpleton remark on the very next post.

I suppose it's easier for some people to not learn but I'm glad there's people here that do the research and provide facts to counter ignorance.

Many of us aren't cheerleaders for anything in particular and like learning facts. This thread is a perfect example.

‘In July and August 2012 in Japan, at scrap yards where airbags were being recycled, officials noted that airbags in some Honda vehicles deployed "strangely," adding to the probe, a U.S. spokesman for Honda said.’

One wonders why would a manufacturer use recycled airbags. It only adds a layer of questions - on which vehicles those recycled airbags are utilized? new or used? is this cost saving measure? did they charge a premium for those recycled airbags? ‘strangely’ deployed hmmm... maybe they are from the scrap yards.

‘Officials with Chrysler, Daimler, Ford, PSA Peugeot Citroen , Renault SA and Volkswagen AG said they were not affected because they did not use the airbags covered by the recall. India's Tata Motors Ltd and its Jaguar Land Rover unit said they are not affected.’

This line is reassuring. However maybe there is a domestic manufacturer who can supply those airbags. We should wean ourselves on reliance of faulty foreign airbags.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/11/toyota-recall-idUSL3N0CY82K20130411

@David Robertson - Honda knew they had a big problem with Takata airbags since 2007 or 2008. By 2010 Honda had a total of 820,000 cars under recall and ordered a "Stop Sale" on used 2001 - 2003 Honda and Acuras.

Something REALLY smells in Tokyo. Toyota, Nissan, Mazda and or Takata sat on the problem until now???

I believe it's legal to sell used airbags, obviously not deployed, but it was airbag recyclers that noticed the odd deployment and notified authorities.

http://www.hondaproblems.com/problems/airbags.shtml

This should lay to rest any suspicion of other automakers being affected.

"Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co., Nissan Motor Co, Mazda Motor Co., General Motors Co. and BMW AG are recalling 3.4 million vehicles because of a faulty air bag part produced by Takata, the automakers said Thursday. Takata said no other automakers were affected."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130412/AUTO01/304120348/1148/auto01/Six-automakers-recall-3-4-million-vehicles-worldwide-over-faulty-air-bags

@Luke in CO | Aren't GM's Pontiac Vibes just re-badge'd Toyota Matrix'?