This must be a mistake. I read RIGHT HERE IN PUTC COMMENTS that the new Ram trucks are infallible. Mark Williams, please recheck your facts.

hi trolls, dont forget about the huge ford recall and the gm recall that was just a headline

At least Ram stands behind their product and don't burn peoples houses down like Fords.

@ Mike
Yeah the only way that Dodge stands behind their POS vehicles is to have someone stand behind them and push them either off the road or into the mechanics bay at the dealership! You can dress it up make it look pretty but when push comes to shove it is still a DODGE!!!!! They have had their share of fires too loser!

FIX IT AGAIN TONY

5th recall for the 2013 Ram.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

EMPTY YOUR WALLET.

TAKE TIME OFF OF WORK.

RAM.

It is just a lighting recall. NO BIG DEAL!

Go Ram!

More recalls are coming.

Let the brand bashin begin!!!! Guys grow up. Its a recall, every company has them, it is not a MAJOR issue as it only affects 1300 vehicles and only concerns lighting. Lets grow up and be mature. Not so sure it is possible though, judging by the prevalence of people with the mental age of a two year old posting on here.

The light is just too strong. Software adjustment. Nothing to see here.

No big deal but will still fill 3 pages of bandwidth with mindless bashing.

@zviera - welcome back.

Fire hazard: General Motors SUV recall targets 200,000 models catching fire while parked

General Motors has announced it will recall about 231,000 SUVs that may be at risk of catching fire, even while parked. The recall, which is an expansion of a recall of nearly a quarter-million models last August, affects models including the Chevrolet Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, and the Buick Rainier. General Motors said it has received 58 reports of fires with 11 minor injuries stemming from the problem.

REUTERS

Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 10:11 AM

Government safety investigators said "a fire could occur even while the vehicle is not in use."

"As a precaution, owners are advised to park outside until the remedy has been made," the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said.

wow - a fake post in my name.

Let the bashing commence.

Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily.
Chevrolet= Shove it or leave it.
Ram= Guts, Glory.

I am never surprised when Ram reports another recall. You Dodge boys have to be nuts to buy a Ram truck unless you need a hobby of visiting the dealership every month.

GUTS
GLORY
TAKING CARE OF ISSUES RESPONSIBLY
GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE
RAM

This place is in dire need of moderators.

On topic: recalls happen, no need to troll

Ford = Fix Or Repair Daily.
Chevrolet= Shove it or leave it.
Ram= Guts, Glory.
Posted by: Dale Milner | Jun 20, 2013 5:45:27 PM

WELL SAID MY MOPAR BROTHER!!!

GUTS
GLORY
TAKING OVER THE TRUCK MARKET
UNSTOPPABLE
RAM

You guys sound like a bunch of little bitches. Is it any wonder this site has fewer and fewer followers?

GUTS

GLORY

CATCH ON FIRE DURING A REPORTER'S TEST DRIVE

ANOTHER RECALL FOR "LIGHTING"

Same old Ram.

Ok, I understand guts, with Chryslers deserved reputation it takes guts to buy one. I don't get the glory part.

GUTLESS
GLORYLESS
BURNING DOWN HOMES
MOBILE ROLLING BAR-B-Q GRILL
FORD TRUCKS

So many folks out there want to see Ram fail. I wonder why that is?

GUTS
GLORY
INVINCIBLE
WILL NEVER FAIL
IMMUNE TO THE COMPETITION
INCLUDING FORD AND GM FANBOIS
RAM

 It's fair to minimize the "sky is falling" narrative of competing fanboys, but its not appropriate to totally dismiss an obvious pattern.

Thanks Lou.
I didn't post for about 6 month in here, because of stupid BAFO light duty diesel truck comments for any not related topics like I predicted and of course of his comments calling me a different names for no reason.
But I was watching you guys from a distance and I must say, that nothing has changed. Everybody holds their ground, but there is just one winner. RAM.

ford have engine problem whit ecoboost do you remember if pickuptruck advertise the problem in is big page...FORD ECOBOOST DEFECT! FORD IN COURT FOR ENGINE PROBLEM ???

AUTO WRITER’S TEST DRIVE ENDS EARLY WHEN $54,335 RAM TRUCK GOES UP IN SMOKE

Dallas Morning News auto writer Terry Box took a “tall, broad and powerful” 2013 Ram 1500 Longhorn Edition on a test drive a week ago.

“I headed for the exit, figuring I had some sort of bizarre computer problem and just needed to turn the engine off and reboot everything,” he writes. “As I unbuckled my seat belt, I noticed a gray Ford Explorer a lane over with a young woman gesturing at me from the passenger seat.”

The 24-year-old nurse was trying to tell him that the Ram was on fire — “a fact I discovered as soon as I opened the door and saw flames snaking out of the left front wheel well.”

---

Some of the comments are funny to that article.

"can we get a "your on fire" light on a $53,000 truck?" LOL

I wonder when Ram will come out with a Kingsford Hickory-Flavored Edition?

Wow all these jealous non-ram owners make me even more happy with my 800 ft lbs of torque. Try that on for size, oh wait Ford and Chevy can't

Any man-made product is going to fail. It's the matter of the manufacturer to take responsibility. I still believe in Ram, Ford and GM.

Go Team Guts, Glory, Built Tough Like a Rock!

Wait what, the EcoBoost has problems, clearly a problematic engine beat the crap out of your V8's.

Wait what, the EcoBoost has problems, clearly a problematic engine beat the crap out of your V8's.
Posted by: Frank | Jun 21, 2013 11:45:18 AM

YOU ARE IN DENIAL Frank. Your statement is further proof THAT YOU ARE A RABID FORD KOOL- AID GUZZLING DOLT. Just because the EGO BOOST beat the other trucks in a drag race doesn't make it the best engine. I said it in the beginning and I WILL STAY IT AGAIN!! I KNEW this engine was/would be a TICKING TIME BOMB!!!
LET IT BE WRITTEN...LET IT BE DONE...PUT IT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT!!

if gm had the twin turbo ego bust that beat the ford V8, frank would be saying that didn't matter because ford had the reliable engine and the gm was junk. typical bs from stanky frankie.

All you trolls are saying the EcoBoost has problems, OK fine. I can live with that, a problematic engine beat the competition, What's next, the F150 is a 10 year design, ok I can live with that, a ten year old truck beat the competition. The EB has been out since 2011 so it has a few years under it's belt. Me, in denial, I can give credit where credit is due, you two trolls can't give Ford credit for winning, so again tell me who is in denial.

If GM had a TT V6, I would congratulate them for copying Ford, but I bet you two ignorant trolls would DROOL over the GM TT V6. GM is way behind.

GOOD LUCK TROLLS!!!!

Just because the EGO BOOST beat the other trucks in a drag race doesn't make it the best engine. I said it in the beginning and I WILL STAY IT AGAIN!! I KNEW this engine was/would be a TICKING TIME BOMB!!! " Bitchagan

Keep back peddling, you friggin gripe and gloat about the Rumble in Rockies and now you are just back peddling, f'ken troll. GTFO!!!

Ticking time bomb just beat the competition, that bomb is gonna get better.

@Michigan Bob - I'd like to see a shootout with mid-sized engines so the 5.3 would have a "fair" chance of winning. It was awful to see that poor 5.3 Ecotec (sounds like Ecoboost - both lame names) having to compete against a twin turbo V6 and a big bad Hemi and a technological marvel I-Force 5.7.

That is one point that seems to have been totally missed by the people on this site. The top 3 performers ARE interesting interpretations of the "ideal" truck engine.

Each brand has developed ideologically different engines:

Hemi 5.7 - traditional "old school" push rod OHV engine with dual plugs and "hemi like" heads.
I-Force 5.7 - "Modern" variable valve timing 32 valve dual overhead cam aluminum block long stroke motor.
Ecoboost 3.6 - direct injection dual turbo V6.

Notice - GMC didn't make the list.

Fell better now that I said something negative about GMC?

Here is an interesting footnote straight from Alpar in relation to the Hemi:

"The proportion of regulated pollutants is a problem for Chrysler. Bob Sheaves noted:
The Hemi design combustion chamber is one of the poorest designs for emissions - why do you think it took so long to get it into production? It almost did not make emissions test requirements even with the modifications."

This shows how sticking with "tradition" can cause problems. Chrysler designers/engineers have done a wonderful job of combining tradition with modern features. No one can argue that the 5.7 Hemi isn't a good truck motor. (Well- many can and will... LOL)

sorry - here is the link

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new-mopar-hemi.html

Frank, I kinda thought that Hemi with less gear ratio put a hurt on that 3.5 Egoboost. I mean in every timed event but one, it won. When it was a tie, Mark Williams thought going a lesser distance in the same time was a win. Really? Bought all it did was a bit better towing mileage and a tad more empty mileage. The towing was because tow haul puts the 8 speed in 7th, theres you mileage.

The Egoboost is what 2.5 years newer. I doubt they will be adding more power anytime soon, they are too busy fixing current issues lol. You don't think the Hemi will get an upgrade in the next two model years?

That's alright if not the 3.0 v-6 diesel and 8 speed will out tow, out milesge, and outlast the egoboost, lol.

@TRX - Tom - if 2 vehicles hit 60 mph at the same time but one does it in a shorter distance, which one is actually faster?

The one that does it in the shorter distance.

Which was?

not the hemi.

@Lou
I am sorry , but in my books the vehicle which makes more miles in the same time than other one is faster.

@zviera - the test was zero to sixty. If a vehicle hits 60 earlier, meaning in a shorter distance it accelerated faster. It is interesting that they both did it in the same time frame but one took a longer distance to do it. There must of been a launch issue like turbo lag to loose time but was able to catch up in a shorter distance.

PUTC should explain what happened as it is interesting.

@Lou
Yes, it was turbo lag. I don't need that. They where cheating this turbo lag in last light duty test and testing was clearly rigged.

@zviera - one can accuse PUTC of "rigging" the test and many have. The key is to look at the individual test results and adjust them to your own wants and needs. For many, they feel that the Ram is the winner. Others feel the EB3.5 is the winner. Some feel the GM siblings are the winners. Others feel that the test was rigged to make Toyota look bad. The Titan was the only truck that wasn't picked as a winner or was said to be the victim of foul play.

I personally would seriously consider the GMC siblings because they weren't that far off in any of the tests, they seemed to do reasonably well in every contest , and weren't full of technology that many feel still needs to be proven. I do not need the power of any of the top 3 performers. The 5.3 Ecotec is the best compromise for those who don't need max tow, max haul or feel the need for bragging rights. (I'm sure that the trolls will misquote me for months with that comment).

I don't trust TT DI V6 tec in a truck just like I do not trust Ram's air ride. I even would like to see some miles on that 8 speed before I'd consider one.

I'm not bragging about Ford winning and I had clearly stated well before the shootout that the results would depend on the test criteria that PUTC used. I am surprised that the Ford won. I expected the battle to occur between the 2 GM siblings and Ram.

The top performers were the EB 3.5, the 5.7 Hemi and the 5.7 I-Force.
All are decidedly different interpretations of what constitutes a great truck engine. Arguable, the 3.5 EB is the most modern and high tec engine followed by the I-Force 5.7. The Hemi 5.7 is the most traditional of the 3 but all yield very close performance results.

My comments about the 0 - 60 times are just my interpretation of how drag racing or "fastest to" testing is done. PUTC did not post actual 0 - 60 distances but for the sake of argument, if the EB 3.5 hit 60 mph in 300 feet and the Ram did it in 303 feet, what would happen if both were drag racing to 303 feet? The Ford would have a higher top speed at 303 feet feet since it hit 60 mph 3 feet earlier. That is just an example but that was the point I was trying to make.

@Lou and Zveria,
Another factor could be wheelspin, which could easily occur in a pickup putting down the torque and power figures of those two engines.

When we were drag racing, the difference in tyres (pressure/manufacturer), humidity, temperature plays an important role in getting the best elapsed times.

Turbo lag is another factor.

When accelerating and trying to obtain the best traction you want approximately 15% overspin on your drive wheels.

No two runs are ever the same either. So if they were run again with colder temperatures I would hazard to guess the Ford would take the honours. But if it was warmer maybe the Ram.

The Ford did get to the 'terminal' speed in a shorter distance. Which indicates it out accelerated the Ram physically, but equal by the timepiece.

Gearing and diff ratios also play a role. There are many variables.

At the end of the day I would think they are similar, but when the Ford gets going it will out accelerate the Ram.

Also, who would buy a truck and drive it around like that. What are the vehicles like when using 'responsible' driving techniques.

That's what you live with everyday. Driving a funny car to work would be a pain in the butt, but its quicker than any of the trucks tested.

@Lou and Zveria,
Another factor could be wheelspin, which could easily occur in a pickup.

When we were drag racing, the difference in tyres (pressure/manufacturer), humidity, temperature plays an important role in getting the best elapsed times.

Turbo lag is definitely another factor.

When accelerating and trying to obtain the best traction you want approximately 15% overspin on your drive wheels.

No two runs are ever the same either. So if they were run again with colder temperatures I would hazard to guess the Ford would take the honours. But if it was warmer maybe the Ram.

The Ford did get to the 'terminal' speed in a shorter distance. Which indicates it out accelerated the Ram physically, but equal by the timepiece.

Gearing and diff ratios also play a role. There are many variables.

At the end of the day I would think they are similar, but when the Ford gets going it will out accelerate the Ram.

Also, who would buy a truck and drive it around like that. What are the vehicles like when using 'responsible' driving techniques.

That's what you live with everyday. Driving a funny car to work would be a pain in the butt, but its quicker than any of the trucks tested.