Is that two rear blocks stacked on top of one another that I see in that rear axle pic? I thought that was a no no?

Man they could of gotten a new 35inch spare tire aswell.

Am I the only person on earth who questions the need for 20-inch rims on pretty much ANY truck?

You are right Jason that 22 inch rims are useless on an "off road" truck, but most lifted trucks are fake street queens posing as an "off roader" anyways. So we can see right through them anyways. They are no different than ricers posing as race cars.

Most guys who raise their trucks up do not know who Lingenfelter is. My old Dodge Power Wagon with the 440cu in in it did not need to be raised up to fit 36inch Ground Hawgs Inside the fender wells. I hate the look of these trucks with the tires stickinig out. Rocks and mud flies every where....

Both nice looking trucks.

I run 16.5 wheels on 37 inch super swampers, stock I ran 35 inch BFG's on an F250. I have never experienced 20 inch wheels, however, I wouldn't think it would be much of a difference but I could be wrong. Edelbrock supercharger for 10k, that's pretty steep then again its a new model and engine. Any word on output figures? I know an extra 100 but anything concrete. Lifted truck needs wider tires.

Pickups for posers. These are really useless as anything to do with work

@Robert Ryan,

How so? This truck can tow and haul. Whats the problem? 20 inch wheels?

@The New Frank

I would say tow and haul very little, that is why a Posers vehicle. True work vehicles have a much more stable ride height. I would hat te go around a roundabout (Traffic Circle) in that. I have seen a jacked up Pickup like that flip over.

@The New Frank - you put a lift on a truck, it usually decreases the ability to safely tow and haul. It throws off the centre of gravity which already tends to be fairly high on a pickup. It also changes driveline angles and reduces the amount of stress u-joints can handle. Larger tires also add stress to the axles and brakes (and driveline). More unsprung weight affects the action of the suspension. @All1 has pointed out the fact that the rear runs on lift blocks which increases the torsional loads placed upon the springs. It is a weak link which reduces the actual torque that the driveline can sustain. This truck will be much more prone to axle wrap which will bind the suspension making the truck run rougher and may cause wheel hop as the suspension unloads.
As @JasonH has pointed out, why put 20's on a pickup? Especially if you plan on running offroad. You need sidewall flex in a work truck or offroader.

It is a nice looking truck but I wouldn't want to work it hard or drive it too far into the bush.

A lowered truck? I don't want to spend 40k on truck and another 20k on mods just to have to park it when the snow flies. I had snow on the ground last Halloween. That makes for a long time with no ride.

Each to their own but if one wants to go fast, I'm sure that a Corvette, Mustang, Camaro, challenger etc will do the job better.

Lou, what the hell are you on about. If the people who buy these lower their trucks, that means they are't interested in off-road. They want ON-road performance, and it can still work great as a work truck to home depot.

When your driving on the highway and some guy in a Neon thinks he can pull in front of you just to be a jerk, you can press on the gas and give him the shock of his life. Plus you can improve the handling by using tighter springs, and you don't need to lower it.

I think its great to see options like this, who cares if it inhibits the offroad or towing abilitity, maybe some guys just want a nice lift package like this

@ ALL1 I don't think its two lift blocks but it could be, might just be lines left from the mold when they made it.

Um, is it just me or are those still the 7-year old trucks they are modifying???

Yeah, it's just you.

No BDS uses a 4" single lift block, stacking blocks is a HUGE no no.

Bigger power and big blocks in the back are a big no no. Axle wrap must be horrible since I don't see traction bars on the lifted Silverado. Do the lift right, get a bigger leaf pack, blocks also flatten your leafs out over time.

Also, drop brackets weaken the already weak IFS, dropping the LCA and pushing everything up further to get the desired lift is a crappy way to do it. You gain no extra travel, and lose ground clearance. You honestly worsen your offroad ability because of the higher center of gravity (not like most of these trucks will even go offroad, most will just run through some mud puddles).

The best set up would be a coilover set up upfront with ~3” lift running the biggest size tires you can fit in the fender wells (in this case, 33’s for GM; 35s for all other half ton trucks). You get good ground clearance, no crappy drop brackets, and no axle wrap inducing 4" lift blocks in the rear.

BDS uses a single 4" lift blocks for the rear in their lift kits. Axle wrap must be horrible since I don't see traction bars on the lifted Silverado. Do the lift right, get a bigger leaf pack, blocks also flatten your leafs out over time.

Also, drop brackets weaken the already weak IFS, dropping the LCA and pushing everything up further to get the desired lift is a horrible way to do it. You gain no extra travel, and lose ground clearance. You honestly worsen your offroad ability because of the higher center of gravity (not like most of these trucks will even go offroad, most will just run through some mud puddles).

The best set up would be a coilover set up upfront with ~3” lift running the biggest size tires you can fit in the fender wells (in this case, 33’s for GM; 35s for all other half ton trucks). You get good ground clearance, no drop brackets, and no axle wrap inducing 4" lift blocks in the rear.

Just to set the record straight @Dave and others – stop the crying about being on topic or off topic. You are jealous of my writing ability and my knowledge of vehicles in general. My job here is to educate the uninformed public like most of you Rambo Motard’s here. I don’t care if someone does not agree with me. If someone wants to take a debate off topic, I’ll be glad to prove them wrong.

Let me give you some examples:
In the “Ram 1500 Earns Consumer Reports Recommendation” of July 16, 2013 article, I respectfully said:
“Wow, this is all truly pathetic. The Ram 1500 gets praise from CR and the rival fans say it is a bogus test.” I know I called you pathetic, but that’s how I school you people and that leads to mutual respect which is severely lacking on this site. Spare the rod and spoil the child.

Unlike you people, I try to remain respectful and not use crude language. As I said to @sandman4X4 in the article “100 Years of the Chevy Bowtie”
on July 22, 2013: “ I hope that the guys nephew isn't a douche bag and beats the sh-t out of it.” This leads to mutual respect which is severely lacking on this site. Like my post of December 12th “I can tell from the quality of the Rambo Motard posts that they are used to playing with small nobs.”

In the article “Could Global Competition Lower Pickup Prices” of August 5, 2013 when I say: “Looks like Dead Man must filling his shorts with spooge due to all the BS he can spread about the Chicken Tax.” Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour it should be the rule for any thread. Something like my post of August 13th to NLP – “the reason why people are saying it is ugly because it is and secondly, the Rambo Motard Tribe has a habit of saying everyone elses product is ugly.” You can’t pay for this kind of insight! I even invent new words like “elses” instead of else’s and then politely correct your spelling mistakes like on my post of Aug 16, 2013 “1st, you need to learn how to spell. A truly religious person would not misspell "testament". I’m just trying to teach you people to spell gooder.

I tend to be tolerant to other peoples beliefs, like my posting of August 16th in the “NHTSA Makes Recall Info Easier to Find” article. I said “You can quote the Old Testament but since the USA is a Christian country, that part of the bible carries less weight than the New Testament.” Warm and welcoming statements like that lead to mutual respect. I know that if I had Jewish friends they would agree.

Finally my favorite posting I made on August 11th “oookkkkkkkaayyyyyyy...........WTF?” Short and sweet. That is how we learn, grow, and develop a sense of where each blogger's opinion is coming from.

Need I go on? That’s how I’ve gain the respect and admiration of you all!

@Lou Has No Clue: So because it can get stuff at Home Depot, it can be a work truck? I guess your idea of a work truck and mine are a bit differant.

Would you want to load heavy v-8 engine blocks into the back of the lifted truck, either by lifting them, or going up a ramp with a dolley? Say if you put a compressor or generator in the back, would you drive forever to find the perfect hill that you can back up to? Oh, but how would that stuff you are gonna load get out there to that hill, unless it happens to be in your area? Trust me, the ramp angles would be steep.

You might not want to put much in the bed, if you have to get in that tall boy all the time to get it out. Sure, you can pull out plywood, but then not everybodies idea of working a truck means just getting 4 x 8 sheets of plywood. I think some get that confused, they probably are either builder types, or don't hardly do any work.

Are there that many weight distributing hitches to fit a raised truck? I bet that is mighty limited. Of wait, I know your answer, "We don't use no weight distributing hitches!" Yeah, I see alot of those types. "I got a 3/4 or 1 ton, why would I need that?" Cause your hitch is overloaded, duh.

Most of these lifted trucks are for people that suffer from not getting enough attention, in which case, there may never be enough attention. They are for the Hey, look at me! crowd.

Sounds like you might not have a clue.

@Lou, BLAH,...................BLAH,......................BLAH!

@This point you are like the teacher on charlie brown.

I lifted my truck 4" to get the engine out of the water when i cross it.

@ Hemi V8 - are you one of them Rambo Motard’s? I thought you were gooder than that.

These fake posts are sucking the life out of this site.

@"fake poster has no clue", keep trolling, I was talking about lifted ttrucks.

@HemiV8 - does your truck have lift blocks in the rear? and just because you tow over the recommended ratings with your truck that is lifted means you are NOT an expert but most likely a moron who has good enough luck not to hurt or kill anyone.

great now the fake posters are complaining about the fake posts!

The Lou Posted 3:18:51 PM is fake.

@HemiV8 - I would never call anyone a moron, even though you might be. That's not how we learn, grow, and develop a sense of where each blogger's opinion is coming from.

Perhaps not in this case but lets recall the primary reason trucks keep getting larger wheels is because more power requires more stopping power = larger brakes. Did you think 200+ Hp and 300+ more ft lbs of Tq and an extra 1500 lbs of mandated safety gear wouldn't require better brakes? Yes a 20" wheel is not standard on any truck but 18" is the smallest on many. One size up is 20" So its not a big stretch.

Yes when the new 1988 GMs arrived a 17" wheel was HUGE! WOW! ...that's too big we all said... Progress. It happens.
If you want to b!tch about 55 series rubber, I'm with you on that.

@Lou Has No Clue - I certainly am interested in “off road” and it looks like you have no clue. What I was saying was that for progressive springs the spring constant will decrease as the spring goes deeper into its crevasse, and for regressive springs it will increase with travel.

Most coil springs are slightly regressive, because as they compress, some of the coils start touching each other, especially near the top of the chasm, and hence the number of active coils increases. So math wise, springs aren't very complicated, but handling wise, they are. The problem is that they work in four dimensions: left to right and front to rear.

For example: a Truck with soft springs will experience little body roll in fast turns, but it will also dive very easy under heavy breaking, handle bumps well and handle accelerating easily. So a moron like you might think: "who gives a &uck" It's a big deal because by the time you have lifted the truck you'll not be able to adjust the oblique balance independent from its unfettered balance.

Any moron would know that, you troll!

Never seen a problem with this towing.....

https://sphotos-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533361_289532894460995_1389884500_n.jpg

@Brad - that truck isn't lifted. It just has lame assed tires appropriate for a street queen.

More fake posts.

PUTC is sinking fast.

@Lou, BLAH,...................BLAH,......................BLAH!

@This point you are like the teacher on charlie brown.
Posted by: HEMI V8 | Aug 22, 2013 11:53:24 AM

Exactly. I came in here to read more about Chevy Silverados and there is nothing but Lou is going off-topic again in the comments section.

Lou is sinking fast.

@PorscheV8 - Are you "The New Frank"?
Must of hit a nerve on that reply.
Who would be foolish enough to exceed the rated capacities of a stock truck when towing let alone exceed the ratings on a modded truck?

Luck does not constitute skill.

What happens when you run out of luck?

You should know the answer to that one considering the fact that you complain about your underinsured burnt Mustang on a daily basis.

Nice bigest ive seen