Nissan Announces Next Titan Will Have a Cummins

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It's official: Nissan Vice President of Sales and Marketing Fred Diaz announced that the new relationship with Cummins Inc. will begin with the next-generation Nissan Titan full-size half-ton pickup truck. Nissan has not announced whether that will be a 2015 or 2016 model, but it's good to hear news like this because it implies Nissan is serious about significantly improving the worst-selling half-ton in the U.S. marketplace.

"We have done our homework on the next-generation Titan. Truck owners told us there's a demand for the performance and torque of a diesel in a capable truck that doesn't require the jump up to a heavy-duty commercial pickup," Diaz said in a statement. "There is no question that the new Titan will turn heads, and with the available Cummins 5.0-liter V-8 turbo-diesel, we expect to win new fans and attract buyers looking for this unique configuration."

We've been reporting since May 2009 that Cummins was committed to light-duty diesel engines, whether it partnered with Ram Truck or another manufacturer. In fact, PickupTrucks.com had heard that several of the half-ton truck makers were getting ready to offer light-duty diesel options in the mid-2000s, but bankruptcies and the recession put many of those product plans on hold.

Previously, Cummins partnered with Nissan and the federal government to study the feasibility and fuel economy results of a small turbo-diesel engine in a large truck. The U.S. Department of Energy delivered the findings on the Cummins Atlas engine project in a 2012 report. The high-tech 2.8-liter inline four-cylinder was reported to offer 385 pounds-feet of torque and more than 26 mpg city/highway combined (which would likely fit in the smaller Frontier as well).

Nissan did not offer many details about the new partnership; however, the engine slated for the new Titan will not be the smaller four-cylinder, but the completely new, much bigger light-duty diesel 5.0-liter V-8, with another version slated for the commercial market. By our calculations, given what Cummins has been doing with new smaller and smarter variable-fin turbochargers, we'd guess the torque ratings could be somewhere in the 550 pounds-feet range and horsepower more than 300.

For the full press release on the Nissan/Cummins partnership, click here.

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This proves it. Toyota Tundra is in trouble.

Also people shouldn't give ram to much credit for not going with the 5.0L. Maybe it wasn't their choice. Why assume its a bad choice if Ram passed on it. As nice as ram trucks are they have hit the rocks twice in the last thirty years so somebody has made bad decisions in the past.

@Big Al--It would be good if Nissan offered the 4 cylinder Cummins diesel in the Frontier. That would get Toyota's attention. Maybe with this announcement GM will firm up plans to offer a diesel in the Colorado/Canyon twins.

I think that Ram's playing it smart, MPG is the big thing people are looking at. With the 3.0L Ram will continue to offer best in class mileage and the new diesel will be a more affordable option than Nissans 5.0L and Nissan won't get as good as mileage but will be a little more capable.

Although every review I've read on the new Grand Cherokee with the 3.0L in it, they've raved about how much they liked the engine and it seems to be beating out the Porsche, MB & VW diesel engine!

I doubt the average buyer of the Ram 3.0L will tow anything larger than a small boat, camper trailer, a couple atvs or a side by side, which the 3.0L should have plenty of power to pull those. I bet that average Ram owner will even tow, I drive an '02 Chevy 1500HD 4x4 4 door and every now and then I tow 4 dirt bikes. I'd love to have a new Ram with a 3.0L, it would be perfect for me.

I am not a fan of Nissan, but I am really excited about this announcement. I think Diaz will help them bring a much improved truck to market and it's great to see Nissan working on making a better truck. I'm excited to see what this new truck will look like and it's capabilities! Way to go Nissan and Diaz!

GM and Toyota should be embarrassed for the lack of effort they made in their new trucks. They look like they didn't even try to do any thing to make their trucks better, just some new sheet metal and dash and call it good! Ford on the other hand should bring some new tech or improvement truck to market. Ford has to, the competition is getting tougher for the sales leader!

@ME,
When you up the stakes, it makes others just hold firm to what they have already done or or better you. Interesting times for the diesel market in the US.

Finally Nissan is back and it was worth the wait; I think RAM missed out. Now you have a Cummins engine in a high quality Japanese Truck! Best of both worlds, sign me up for the first one. Thank you Fiat for Fred Diaz.

@Lou – “I used to drag race a Towmater Trike with wheelie bars, lowered suspension and Avenir Dual Action Bell”

sounds great maybe Santa will bring you a Big Wheel for Christmas. What a bonehead!

Finally Nissan is back and it was worth the wait; I think RAM missed out. Now you have a Cummins engine in a high quality Japanese Truck! Best of both worlds, sign me up for the first one. Thank you Fiat for Fred Diaz.

@Lou – “I used to drag race a Towmater Trike with wheelie bars, lowered suspension and Avenir Dual Action Bell”
sounds great maybe Santa will bring you a big wheel for Christmas. What a bonehead!

It's about time! Yea!

This is GREAT NEWS! Nissan is going to bring a game changing truck to market. No way they will bring a weak chassie and driveline to the Big 3 jamborie. This Baby Cummins was ready to be put into the RAM 1500 and a EPIC FAIL of the entire system went down in 2008. I knew then when Chrysler / FIAT / Cummins went through the talks and decided that the 5.0 needed to be shelved...Cummins would take the motor elsewhere and the TITAN was the route it would take. A MEGA CAB Style Nissan 1500 ... with the right gear will be awesome. I was going to pull the trigger on a 2014 RAM EcoDiesel in late 2014 when the deals were to be had. Now I shall wait and see what this NissaCummins will do :) ...

LOVING THE DIESEL WAR Prelims --- LOL

I want to know the specs of this engine as it relates to earlier Cummins 5.0L V8 specs http://www.dieselpowermag.com/news/0902dp_2010_diesel_engines/viewall.html

"Thus, GM, Ram, and Nissan will be doing the diesel thing while Ford and Toyota sit on the sidelines. Either Ford and Toyota know something everyone else doesn't, or they're officially behind the diesel curve."

Well Toyota has plenty of diesel knowledge, hence the Tacoma/hilux that Top Gear UK drove to the north pole. many other countries have the hilux in diesel. they just don't think it will sell well here in the US because diesel prices are jacked way up, when, everywhere else its the cheaper option, because its cheaper to make, gets better mileage and has more alternatives than regular gasoline

Nissan needs to take that truck global. I hope Ford and GM reconsider their 4.4 and 4.5L diesel V8s.

2015, 2016....

Nissan didn't say when it would be available.

I'll believe it when I see it.

@XX, it can if there is an exclusivity contract. Just like the agreement Apple had w/ AT&T. Ram may have such agreement with Cummins for the 6.7 for light duty pickup trucks application. People aren't uneducated for making this assumption. Unless you know for sure, the assumption is quite valid.

@XX,
You get Cummins as an option on the Mack. Mack is now doing their own engine a variant of the European Volvo engine.

@Alex,
No the Titan stays in NA. On the other hand the Cummins V8 would come in handy for the Patriol.

We'll boohoo. Ford can build their own diesel unlike stupid GM, RAM & DATSUN. They all suck. GO FORD


ME FOR DUMB ASS PRESIDENT

I LIKE BIG FORD TRUCKS AND I CANT NOT LIE, YOU MOFOS CAN'T DENY. WHEN I SEE A BIG FORD I GET ON IT HORNS AND SAY UGHHH, UGHHH. THE FORD TRUCKS ARE BAD. FORD TRUCK ARE BAD. I LIKE PITO

My wife wont go on a diet. She weighs 420 lbs.

Me for Presidential Dumbass

LOL looks like Frank has finally lost his mind posting under everyone else names. Must really suck owning a rust box f250 v10 on blocks in his front yard that don't run or drive any more LOL!

johnny doe for president!

@ johnny doe = You remind me of a younger, dumber Arnold Schwarzenegger. But like all atrocious people, I share your love for FORD. In a drag race, my money is on the1.6L Duratec in-line 4 DOHC and variable valve timing, but for heavier use like towing or getting into a fishing hole 3 hrs down a gravel road, the even my f*#$in lawn mower has a "green" gas cap on it.

If one uses a truck like most people, SUV's with a balcony (hat tip to DM), the 1.6L Duratec will be better since diesels traditionally have not fared well under the state's tenure overhaul, which Gov. Chris Christie signed into law and the low load. The Regen cycles will kick in more often decreasing the shaft designed so that, as it rotates, it vibrates in a way that reduces or cancels some of the vibration produced by an engine.


@Big Al from Oz - Did you say "This the beginning. More will cum, slowly at first , then the whores! will arrive:) You literally really Gotta' love diesel:) As my grandfather told me a man who eat many prunes gets good run for money.

Hay Lou, I like Ford guys.

Lets make Lou our President. He is a smart booty.

Wow ram is in deeeeeeeeeeeep s*&t.........next truck will have a v8 cummins

Congrats Nissan!

What hurts diesel trucks is purchase cost and maintenance. My Eco Boost doesn't take extra fluid for the fuel, 16 quarts of oil or cost more for fuel - which also needs added treatment in the winter. I pulled an 11k trailer it did just fine. 70mph on the interstate. No issues on hills either. Talked to a dodge 2500 cummins guy pulls a camper that weighs the same he gets about 12mpg. I got 9. With the cost of diesel being considerably higher it's a wash there. The diesels are going to have to do a lot better than they are mpg & cost wise for me to consider. Right now it's not worth it in a half ton.

Nissan should put then in the patrols.

Once these diesels start going in the half tons the gasers will disappear!!!

@HEMI V8 - OK, let's see the production #'s by model year.

By the late 80's, Dodge couldn't give their trucks away and was still milking the tired old '73 body. Dodge trucks lacked the fuel injection and overdrive trans of GM and Ford 1/2 tons. Fleets were about the only ones that would take them. GM and Ford trucks were fresh, modern and looked sharp. Dodge trucks were as irrelevant and outdated as Titans are now. Worse actually.

Then came the Cummins and the trucks were flying off the lot. Directly off the carriers, more like. I worked at my local CPD dealer and saw the before/after, 1st hand. The Cummins demo truck was going nonstop.

GM and Ford diesels were good at the time, but the Cummins was a step above and had a long, proud history in farm and road tractors. Turbo diesels were nothing new, but you had to go aftermarket Banks or ATS turbos.

The big-rig look of the all-new '94 was a hit, but looks aren't everything, especially when it comes to HD trucks. Buyers of '89 to '93 Cummins pickups didn't care how ugly or otherwise irrelevant. Without the Cummins, there was no real reason to buy a Dodge truck, '89 to '93.

@ TuRDX-4 Tom
I will have to agree with TRX on this one. The VM will be adequate for most any task thrown at it.

The 5.0 litre Cummins is nice, unless you want to tow 10 000lbs day in and day out I would look at a 3 litre class diesel pickup.

It isn't going to get you from point A to point B quicker.

5.9 Cummins

A Cummins B Series engine was also added to the engine lineup and for the first time, Dodge saw sales go up. The Cummins could be coupled with a heavier-duty version of the A727 automatic or a 5-speed manual transmission and was available on 250 and 350 pickups and chassis cabs. This diesel engine option was drastically different from Ford and GM diesel engines optioned at the time. The Cummins featured direct injection, where the Ford and GM diesels featured Indirect injection; this also meant the Cummins didn't have to rely on glowplugs. The Cummins was a straight-six engine where the GM and Ford diesel engines were V8 engines. As well, the Cummins was turbocharged, while the 6.2L GM/DDC and 7.3 IDI Ford/IH were naturally aspirated.[3] This was not the first engine to appear in Dodges as a Diesel option. Mid-1970s D models offered the rare, underpowered, Mitsubishi non-turbo diesel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Ram#5.9_Cummins

If Nissan is going to make inroads this is the time to do it. The refreshes have been mostly lackluster, with Toyota being the worst. Dodge made some good progress (not enough for me to buy 1 tho.. I also will not buy their coil rear suspension either). Wasn't impressed with the Titan when it came out. Glad to see progress tho even on their part it's the thing that keeps the others from sitting around.

Does anybody here realise that RAM is owned by Fiat who in turn own Iveco & Astra trucks which make proper on/off highway vocational trucks powered by Fiat Group engines (Google Cursor Engines)? And that Fiat uses this same group of engines in their construction plant (Case New Holland sound familiar?)

The reason RAM doesn't have a big vocational engine for a 1500 is because a 1500 is not a vocational device. It can be used professionally, but if you really need loads of power you need a 2500 or bigger (which they do with a vocational Cummins engine).

The VM Motori is based on the engines they use for their cars because most 1500 buyers are not vocational buyers. More power and torque from a smaller engine gives you more fuel economy than the same numbers from a bigger engine. Yes it sacrifices a bit of durability, but who actually buys a 1500 to constantly tow heavy trailers? That's why they make 2500 and bigger...

No good trying to get a frugal Diesel engine package using a vocational 'lazy' high capacity engine. Smaller, highly tuned units give much better economy for non vocational purposes.

Awesome! I thought the 2.8L should be more feasible to the Frontier. I know the six-cylinder full-size trucks like the EcoBoost and the EcoDiesel drew ire especially to the V8 faithful, and the four-banger would've made things worse. I wonder if the 5.0 L V8 TD would make it to the Ram 1500 as an option...GM and Toyota, time to fire up that light-duty diesel option!

@UK Diesel driver. Generally, I agree with what you're saying, but if the V8 sees only a marginal increase in fuel consumption, that's not a bad thing. A while ago, I looked at the fuel consumption difference between the Range Rover Sport 3.0L V6 diesel and Range Rover Vogue 4.4L V8 diesel. The Vogue had a bigger engine, the car was bigger and heavier, and the fuel consumption was only 1mpg lower than the Sport. Weather the 5.0L Cummins is as efficient as the Ford 4.4 Lion motor, who knows? But I will take the extra torque, power, and reliability for a 1-2mpg deficit. It will be interesting to compare the Titan Cummins V8 to the Ram EcoDiesel.

@Liam, not only should Ram use it in the 1500, they should also use it in the 2500. It would be perfect for that new softer 3/4 ton with coil springs. I am not knocking that either. It's the perfect bridge between the 3.0 EcoDiesel and massive 6.7 Cummins.

@Denvermike, "The redesigned 1994 Ram was a sales success, with sales rocketing from 100,000 units in 1993 to 240,000 in 1994, 280,000 in 1995, and nearly 400,000 in 1996."

I had a 1995 Ram Regular cab with the 5.9, it was a great truck but then I traded it for a 2005 Titan and it has been a great truck as well.

Hey Shawn,
I hate to tell you this but the diesels DO stink and they DO make a racket.. Even the little pissers over in Europe and the VW so called "clean" diesels make more noise than a gas engine. They don't perform well either.

There is absolutely no reason to buy a diesel for most casual non-commercial haulers other than mpg and if it got 39mpg like a lot of the trucks overseas do then I'd have a reason to pay an extra $7k for the truck and an extra 40 cents (in my state) per gallon plus deal with dEF and drive out of my way to get to a gas station that sells diesel.

Nissan is not paying attention to who its buyers are.
They are only focusing on the buyers they think they are going to get by offering a big, noisy, smelly redneck truck only what they are forgetting is that rednecks don't buy nissans because nissans are for sissy girlymons like me and as a business user I want the trucks to be low maintenance and cheaper to operate. I was seriously considering Titans for my next round of trucks and despite their reputation for problems would roll the dice on titan if the mpg was vastly improved.
It could've been. Most of the time the trucks do not have a heavy load.

Anyway, it's the "you'll drive what we give you mentality" which has caused me to hold off on buying any new vehicles at all. There's absolutely no reason to buy a new one and they keep moving in the opposite direction from what I'm looking for.

I guess now that Ram has a pretty solid heavy duty truck, Cummins has to look elsewhere to continue their tradition of putting a Cummins engine in a crappy truck.

Of course, maybe the Titan won't be crappy, but it's pretty hard to see how that will be.

This is where Nissan can do the most damage to the Toyota Tundra, which just entered the party with a new dress but didn't lose any weight or give us any more "vavoom." - Mark Williams

@TundraHeadquarters, Nice dress!

Wowee!!! if they can design this new truck to look about as far from the ungly little juke they make, and have this truck look like something entirely differnet from their other products, I might just be interested, as this looks like a very nice engine!!!! as I think Nissan make the ugliest vehicles in the world so far, and have only made a few in their history I would be able to look at and own, with the original Z car and the little 2dr and 4dr I think was callled the 210 was nice back in the early 70's, then they blew it when they went to FWD, as the rear drive car I am talking about was like a poor mans BMW 2002, and looked just like it. Nissan need to make this truck, and needs to make it look like it was designed in America, and NOT in Japan.

@Maxx, thank goodness most truck buyers are more educated than you. If you want your quiet torqueless V8 gasser, go buy a Chevy 5.3. It's the perfect truck for someone who doesn't need a truck.

I wonder if will burn rice along with the oil?

@Bubba joe

What's wrong with you? Too much grits and squirrel meat getting to you?


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@TundraHQ--I don't think Ford is behind at all. Considering the next F150 will be due next year & they have the 3.2L turbodiesel 5-cylinder certified & ready for the Transit, I bet Ford has a test truck ready for EPA certification if diesel truck sales take off. Ford isn't selling the most trucks for no reason.

@johnny doe--From what I've read, GM's bankruptcy put the 4.5L BabyMax 6 feet under. It will not be coming back. GM would have less trouble using the same 3.0L V6 as Ram (since GM owns 50% of VM Motori).

@Lou--The 5.0L version of this engine may have been kept rather well hidden, but the engine (& a V6 cousin) have been in development for over 4 years.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/dodge/0612dp_new_cummins_v6_and_v8/viewall.html

http://www.cumminsdieselspecs.com/5.6L-and-4.2L-cummins.html

first off I like the fact that they are trying to put diesels in these trucks for fuel mileage, but if the truck costs 50k it isn't worth it. I could afford a new ram for 60k but im not spending that amount of money on a truck that im going to beat up. they really need to sell a 26mpg 35k truck that wont rust out in 6 years! I work on a lot of nissans that have recycled steel frames, they are rotted out in 6 years. the longevity of the engine and the truck need to match! really will this truck with all the torque be able to handle a light plow without the frontend getting worn out in a year? I hope so, it will have more than enough power to do anything I need but can the chassis stand up to what I want to give it? I really would like to see these succeed but from all the electronic problems these diesel trucks currently have I highly doubt much will change in a few years if people are paying the 60k premium already. I know people will think im nuts but I work on vehicles to survive and im not impressed with current gen anything! maybe Nissan can build a strong halfton and change my mind we will see.

Gladiator, Rust might have been an issue back in the day but its not now. My Titan has been through eight Ohio winters and stays covered in salt all winter, their is not a spec of rust on the body and none where you normally see it on the rest like the rocker panels, bottom door seams and bottom tailgate seam. The Frame looks very good as well.



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