Regular Cab Tacoma to Be History by 2015

Tacoma Reg front II

The midsize pickup truck segment has been on life support for almost two decades, with the current crop of competitors at the lowest number ever. Even though a new Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon will enter the market next year, other manufacturers are being cautious about how much they invest in this fickle U.S. segment.

Sales for small pickups during the last few years have remained flat, with pickups like the Ford Ranger and Suzuki Equator walking away from the segment entirely, the GM twins taking some time off and even Honda, with its Ridgeline, threatening to take a hiatus in order to save some plant remodeling money.

There's no question that for those who have toughed it out, there are other challenges as well. Vehicles like the Nissan Frontier and Toyota Tacoma are still quite popular but are selling a huge majority of their smaller pickups in relatively few flavors, mainly the four-door types. Offering a full lineup of regular, extended and crew cab models seems less important as more customers show preferences for versatile, passenger-friendly cabs. We would expect, especially if something more "entry level" was on the horizon, that some of these manufacturers would eliminate the smaller regular cabs altogether for the midsizers if they had the chance. And it looks like things might be headed in that direction.

Mike Connor (who we've never heard of or met at a press or new-truck drive event) is reporting in Motor Trend's Truck Trend Magazine that Toyota will dump the regular cab option from the 2015 Tacoma lineup. Of course, the regular cab isn't a huge seller and is typically the platform of choice for most small-business fleet purchases,making up less than 10percent of the total No. 1-selling Tacoma yearly sales volume.

Could this mean Toyota has plans for an actual compact pickup truck as a future product or could the next-generation Tacoma become even larger with a CrewMax model (similar to the Tundra), effectively making the Access Cab Tacoma the entry-level model? We like the former option, but we'll have to wait and see.

Tacoma Reg Cab II

Comments

@karl--You are not alone, I still see a fair amount of older Toyota pre Tacoma pickups along with a few Isuzu Pups and Nissans. I doubt your trucks are polluting that much. Government fuel standards, tariffs, and the corporate upsizing of compact trucks to midsize along with higher prices has hurt smaller trucks. The right sized and priced compact pickup would sell but the manufacturers would rather sell larger trucks with a larger profit margin. At lest Tacoma and Frontier are left and GM will come out with a new Colorado/Canyon. That might not be what you want to hear, but that is better than no choice.

@DenverMike
I will not make statement to fit into a crowd or submit to peer pressure as opposed to trolling, which is anti social behaviour ie, Hemi V8 and some of the other fanboi's/kids. That's how I view you.

I don't support the UAW driven view on how to manage the US auto industry, like yourself and your fellow UAW croonie's who use these websites to promote, distort and misinform.

I do make judgement based on a variety of information, yes it is opinion, but substaniated opinion. My opinion is easily verifiable as well. You never provide any form of credibility, validity or currency to your arguments.

You are a UAW troll, who uses many names to cause dissent.

@johnny doe
Show me where I state that the Euro's make everything better or come across as such. I never have.

But, I do criticise the blatant protectionism that is killing off vehicles like the Tacoma.

The footprint of the Tacoma has to increase in order to comply to the regulatory requiements within the US.

Don't you think this is an odd way of reducing emissions and fuel usage? To have a mandatory regulation increasing the size of vehicles.

Then have regulations stifling the competition between vehicles, ie chicken tax.

If you think being pro competition is a non or anti American activity then you are quite a sad person.

This has nothing to do with Europe. I'm actually a diesel fan first and foremost, not midsize or fullsize or Kei truck. I like them all.

But if you want to join the crowd so be it. Just because I defend something doesn't make me anti American. Are Amercian's pro Chinese because American businesses set up shop in China? Get real. But that is okay for a US company to make money from an overseas source, but not okay for an overseas company to make money in the US like Toyota or Nissan from their pickups.

Really who are the ones that don't have the American spirit that made America great. Locking your doors and sticking your heads in the sand will achieve nothing and reduce your great country even further.

Also, the US auto industry with the help of the UAW has screwed it up to the point where it must import technology from overseas to manufacturer what vehicles you guys require.

Why? For the same reasons that CAFE, Chicken Tax and all of the other protectionist measures will kill of the 1/2 ton pickup. Hey, but maybe your to blind to see what the hell is going on in your vehicle manufacturing sector.

Did you even bother to read the link I posted about the projected cost of fuel within a decade? Have a look at middle America it is in decline, prices are rising, even with the improving economy the US is not anywhere near what it was.

What has allowed the US to afford such vehicles as your full size trucks was its affluence, this is diminishing ever so slowly.

Yeah, you will have your full size trucks a decade from now, but how many will be able to afford an exotic alloy, overly technological vehicle. Someone has to pay. Just look at he article on the price of used pickups, obviously people want to step into a pickup, but can't afford them right now.

You can listen to the likes of the fanboi's and DenverMike who like to pull the right strings to make you feel good and bicker over a couple of horsepower etc. I don't, I debate real issues. To me all pickups are competitive and to post crap on mirror sizes or wheel diameters isn't my forte.

I'll leave that to the school boys who post such nonsense on this site. I'm interested in trending and what constitutes a better vehicle from an engineering perspective. Not 0-60 times which doesn't have much meaning on how a vehicle performs.

I will not blow wind up your ass or anyone elses to fit in and make you feel good, that lacks sincerity.

Man, I hate to hear that. If you want 4 doors buy a station wagon and leave pick ups along. I didn't buy a pick up to haul people around. If they want a ride than they can ride in the bed like we use to do going to the swimming hole. Easy fix. Yes. I know it's not PC but that's whats ruining everything.
OLD SCHOOL is BETTER!

@ Southern IL man, et al.: To quote The Dude: "Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man." A pickup truck is a utility vehicle, and most people would agree that it is more utilitarian to have a vehicle that holds 5 or 6 people with 5-6 feet of cargo space than one that only holds 3 people (and rather uncomfortably at that) with 8 feet of cargo space. And no, the bed is not for passengers. Growing up in a rural area, I've ridden in the bed of a pickup more than once, but I would absolutely never do so for any appreciable distance or at speeds higher than 30 mph. I've read and heard (as I'm sure others have) countless stories of accidents where a pickup overturned or otherwise crashed with multiple people in the bed, most or all of whom were severely injured or killed.

Now, as I have stated before, I personally do not care for anything larger than an extended cab, since I see it as too much of a concession to cargo space (and a pickup truck is first and foremost a _cargo_vehicle_; let's not forget that). But at the same time, it should always be up to the customer to decide what he really wants--if he wants to spend upwards of $60K on a Super-Ultra-Mega-Crew-Max-Whatever cab pickup with a 3' bed hanging off the back, jacked up on 35-inch mud tires that will never even see gravel, loaded with chrome, heated leather, and other such creature comforts, that's his decision. Me, I'll stick with an older mid-range extended-cab half-ton (preferably with an 8' bed if I can find it) because that's _my_ decision.

Now, with compact/midsize pickups, we all must realize that they target a different breed of buyer. These aren't the guys who necessarily want a "gutsy" little truck to do truck stuff in all the time, although they certainly can with a base-model Tacoma. No, these are the guys (and gals) who want something that they can drive to work Mon-Fri, and then load up the bed with camping supplies Friday night and head back to nature. Or maybe fill it up with paint and pickets and finally get on that fence the mother-in-law's been nagging them about for years. And they want to do these things while taking the spouse and kids--how many people could you last fit in a regular-cab Tacoma?

Furthermore, in the case of the Tacoma, there was really no reason to offer a regular cab model other than to advertise the lowest price. Since Toyota discontinued true "long bed" models--by that I mean 7-foot beds (who remembers those?)--somewhere around 1993 (this was to make room for the mid-sized T100 with an 8-foot bed, apparently), this means that a regular cab Tacoma is now less useful than an Access Cab Tacoma--the only advantage it has is a shorter wheelbase, which is only good for parking or off-roading (and when you're not doing either of these things, which is about 95% of the time, the wheelbase is so short that you'll get a nice deep kidney massage going down a washboard road).

In closing, I'd just like to say that I _am_ a little saddened that this is happening. When Nissan dropped the regular cab, I was too young to know what was happening. I realize why Toyota is doing this, and that's fine. The best way to embrace change is to just allow it to happen.

@David--Thanks, I could not have said it any better. Agree totally with your statement.

And I disagree. For the type of "utility" David suggests, most times a standard sized or large SUV is the better choice. Trucks are meant to be trucks--hauling bulky items, not carrying your family all over creation. That's why we have separate cars and trucks.

Take a look at history. Here in the states we had cars built specifically for the purpose David describes; they were called Station Wagons because their purpose was to move people and their luggage to and from railroad stations in reasonable comfort. Those station wagons at the time were as big as today's Tahoe and Expedition (or whatever Ford's full-sized SUV is called now). The size was so popular that a variant was developed called the Panel Wagon, as compared to the panel trucks such as UPS and other shipping companies use today. We're seeing this same kind of adaptation as Chrysler and now even GM are taking minivans and putting them to commercial cargo use.

Now, let's look at what killed the station wagon. Anyone want to guess? It's the minivan! Shorter in length; more economical; averaging over 100 cubic feet of internal storage behind the second row of seats. They were the perfect replacement at a time when fuel prices more than doubled in about 1 year. Their problem? Most of them were ugly as sin. What replaced the minivan? Station Wagons. Yes, I know they're called SUVs today, but they're nothing more than station wagons and they're looking more like cars again every year, not trucks. They don't deserve a Truck classification and at least some insurance companies are noting that--calling them Sport Utility Wagons instead.

So NO, I do not agree that a truck should be an everyday family hauler. It's too big. It's too expensive. It gets lousy gas mileage. It's a single-purpose vehicle intended to haul *things*, not people.

Jeff is correct, Americans need to realize that the global market now trumps the US market and products are not being developed to suite American's palette exclusively.

Unfortunately, one thing Americans have done to their market is to basically eliminate the manual transmission. Too bad we are not more globalized in that respect.

@Vulpine crew 4x4 pick ups make alot of sence for families that live in areas with snow or go campping and on out door adventrues. For one they are chepaer than SUVs.
An SVT raptor Supper crew starts at 46K
suburban 4x4 starts at 48K
4x4 Tahoe at 46k
f150 fx4 Suppercrew with luxary pkg 46k
lariat f150 with off road pkg 46k
A 4x4 4runner starts at 36k
4x4 Tacoma Crew TRD off road tops out at 35k
An exploer cross over with leather seats at 43k in awd
When you look at the prices of full size pick ups there is a reason people are buying them over SUVs to get a king ranch expidition with 5.4l cost 2k more than the king ranch f150 with ecobost and off road pkg and nav, what a better return on investment? I switched from a suburban z71 to a ford raptor when I needed a new truck bc the raptor is cheaper and has better off road credentials and more luxary options if you are hauling 4-5 people a crew cab is the way to go.

I have no problem with crew cabs, I own a crew cab Isuzu. I do see a crew cab as an all in one vehicle for a family and still have the ability to haul and tow. I would have a problem if crew cabs were the only cab configuration available and an extended cab were not available. I can see regular cabs being phased out, I am neutral on regular cabs, but at the very least an extended cab should be offered. I do see where there are some who only need a regular cab, but as what has been stated that an insufficient number of customers are not buying them then it makes sense to eliminate them. I believe in freedom of choice, but an extended cab is not much bigger or that much more expensive.

I do hate to see the demise of manual transmissions and manual windows but I expect that may happen as well in the next couple of years with the midsize trucks. As long as someone is still making midsize trucks then I will find a suitable truck.

I think that one reason why Toyota will kill the Tacoma regular cab is because it means a smaller EPA footprint and tougher rules to match. That translates to higher R&D for a small volume seller.
Another reason why regular cab trucks are dying are also related to rules. Most jurisdictions call for mandatory seatbelt usage and children in car seats away from airbags. That rules out the regular cab.

I sold my old 3/4 ton reg cab for those reasons and sold my Ranger Extended cab for the same reasons.
I'd rather not own a 22 ft long truck but that gives me what I need for my family.

1980 Toyota sr5 long bed 267000 plus miles and counting. even if they do produce a smaller compact truck it wont be as small as this one. simple durable. 30 mpg hwy dont hurt either

my first vehicle was a 1980 Toyota long bed sr5 with the 20r 95 hp 122 ft lbs over built double row timing chain. I still have it. it has 276000 miles. and keeps going albeit with several parts replaced over the years,but nothing major. way better built than a new Tacoma. and no recalls. back when Toyota wanted to be the best not the biggest. I never thought I would see the day the reg cab compact was discontinued.

I own a 2005 Tacoma prerunner 4 cylinder 5 speed. Performs really well, to me is the perfect size and have never had a full size get as good gas mileage as it. My 2004 F150 never topped 15 mpg and it was 2wd as well. This one routinely bests 22 avg. What is wrong with these and why people aren't buying from this segment isn't size, its they haven't improved on midsize trucks in a decade so the new full sizes (that cost 40 grand plus on avg) have a lot more features and the fuel economy gap is decreasing do to advancements. the real problem is the idiots who spend 50 grand on a truck they won't use anyway instead of buying what they need and can afford, which is a midsize truck. Now if u need a full size truck it makes sense but for most its overkill.

I don't care what cab size they offer on the mid size as long as they bring a turbo diesel option to the segment! Otherwise I will not buy a 27K mid size with half the towing, hauling, safety capacity as a full size that gets the same or BETTER fuel economy at nearly the same price.

Brett said: "You can not justify buying a small pickup truck that cost about 85% or more than the base cost of a full size truck and has little, if any difference in fuel economy or TCO."

You're wrong Brett, or at the very least, I disagree with you. I own a 2008 Ford Sport Trac. 17.5ft long. Seats 5. Fits nicely into my 19.7ft garage. Pulls my jet ski and trailer whenever I want and gets poor gas mileage doing it. The F150 that can do the same thing is 19.3 ft. The smallest crew cab in it's class is the Nissan Titan at 18.75 ft. That's the main reason I thumb my nose to the current thinking that folks will buy a big, bulky, hard to park, and expensive to keep rubber on F150 just because it's getting better gas mileage. It's still a cumbersum beast to say the least.

This sucks , Ive always loved regular cab trucks and wouldent own anything but one. If you need 4 doors buy a car. I have had the extended cab trucks , 2 of them as a matter of fact and hated them. I think this is a bad move by Toyota. Ive owned 2 of their trucks and loved the regular cab , the 2011 extended cab not so much and doubt I will ever own another if they drop the regular cab.

The truck companies want to sell $60,000 pickups, not $15,000 ones as there is way more profits in the higher priced trucks. So they convince buyers to buy on the basis that it could pull a tank or has a hemi in it. Nothing was spent on advertising the small pickups, so sales dropped. Reminds me of the guys in high school who were buying expensive watches based on it being waterproof to 100 meters even though they didn't dive. I'm more practical, but compulsive purchasers of new vehicles are usually not.

I have a 2013 4x4 regular cab and love it. They are easy to manuver and has a very hot look..People comment all the time. Not everyone can afford some overpriced and large gas hog that they cant even park in a parking lot or fit it in a garage. I think its a bad move on toyota. All the small reg. cabs sold fast on car lots. Big dogs still out there. If I want something big I will by a rig. Why are we trying to go green and save energy, yet gas hogs we are still manufacturing. Soon as gas gets high again littles ones back on the rise just a matter of time... Back to buying gm's again.

1996 Toyota Tacoma SX V6 regular Cab 4X4 in original condition with 94K miles coming soon to EBAY MOTORS. Look for it in about a week!!!!! Excellent condition!!!!

Bring back the regular cab. Many people are looking for them. With the gas prices the regular cab is lighter and more gas efficient.



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