Pennsylvania Fairgoers Flock to Ram Thrill Rides

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By John Matras

The way people were lined up along the chain-link fence, backs to one of the glittery country fair midways as they watched pickup trucks negotiate obstacles, you might think they were watching a stunt show or a scaled-down monster truck show.

But they were not.

They were watching a promotion for Ram pickups at the recent Bloomsburg Fair, where Ram was giving demonstration rides of the Ram 1500 over a dirt track in an open field. The Bloomsburg Fair, located in its namesake town in central Pennsylvania, is the largest agricultural fair in the state and one of the largest in the East, complete with horse pulls and livestock judging, plus carnival games and rides, live music and ethnic food. It's farm country, and it's pickup country.

So although the population numbers may not match those of the Baltimore or Washington, D.C., metropolitan areas, the pickup truck demographics of the region swamp those of the major urban centers. Ram's demo drive was a natural for the area, said Ram's Jerry Hunter, who brought the event to the fair for the first time this year.

The point was to show the off-road bona fides of a Ram 1500 pickup. More than a show for the fence clingers, the ride-alongs were free — something that fairgoers accustomed to paying for everything found hard to believe.

The exhibition rides, all in crew cabs, included a demonstration of articulation, with the trucks driving through a series of alternating pits that drop one corner while the opposite corner rises off the ground.

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That was followed by a hillside of death that tipped the trucks 30 degrees from horizontal without the trucks tipping over, a thrill for the ride-alongs. Next up was a stop on a steep upslope to show off the hill-holder feature, and then the Ram waded through a rocker-panel-deep pool, with the drivers making sure to mention the triple door seals keep the carpet dry.

Tight S-turns displayed the tight turning radius of the Ram 1500 crew cab, and alternating logs demonstrated the pickup's prowess in crawling in 4-Low.

People invariably left the Ram demo grinning. Their favorite part? Almost to a person, it was the 30-degree side slope. People didn't know a pickup could do that, and now we have visions of teenagers doing that with Dad's truck. Kids: Don't try that at home.

One older guy did say what he liked best was the comfortable ride and the quality interior. Yeah, sure, sir, but what about that side slope?

With weather cooperating during this year's Bloomsburg Fair, some 4,000 people took the Ram thrill ride and it looked like another 4,000 were turned away.

And that's not counting the people behind the fence. So for Hunter, that meant mission accomplished.

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Comments

@ALL1,

No app for this site. We should all ignore these trolls. They don't know anything, why continue arguing with ignorant people. Now watch them respond to my post in there trolling fashion.

Gotta love the BS from the fanboys.
The company my brother works for (The biggest Forestry company in Canada) is switching over form Chevy to Ford. I've noticed Ecooboost badges on all of the new 1/2 tons I've seen. Those trucks will be in mud, dust and water for a large part of their service life.
Unlike some of you - I'll give an honest report as to how they hold up.

D5 tracks - those are pretty heavy. The truck didn't move? Was that because the traction control system kicked in? Yaw kills engine power or maybe some numbnut forgot the park brake on?

I've never had problems with my truck in water, mud, and deep snow. Traction control and stability control gets in the way of all sorts of things. Learn the machine you are running before you criticize it.

I don't read any Eco power problems on f150online anymore. Ford has finally got grips on the problems and the new 13 models are looking to be relatively problem free from the feedback on multiple f150 forums.

Ford isn't going to do a recall because the NTSB is still probing. Possibly Ford is introducing something for the 2014 and it will trickle down to the other model years. If they wanted to play it smart, that's what they will do.

@Matt: I don't know if Ford is doing much to the F-150 for 2014. Any big changes will be saved for the all-new 2015 model.

I'm not talking big changes, just fixes if needed. Ie: like the 2013 EB built after April of this year have the the refined and updated parts. If the NHTSB probe ends and the 2013 is fixed they don't have to anything with the 2014.

@Lou BC, BAFO, "psychological perspective" When your Ford burns and almost catches my work on fire. Which was a chemical plant at the time.(not good) Only to find out Ford has a U.S. record for fire recalls. And this fire could have happened at my house hours after parking it. IT CHANGES YOUR PSYCHOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE. To say the least.

@Lou_BC I said D5 track not tracks and yes the truck was out of park. It just sat there sputtering like crazy till he restarted the truck 3 times. You to will soon fine out the eco boost does not last long off road.

And Lou_BC You're truck is a 5.4L it haves nothing in common with the new engines which we are talking bout. Just be glad you have the 5.4L because it's sit up ten times better then Fords newest engines.

Ego boost garbage, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvBV1Y1SVBI

@Lou,

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@johnie doe

I have had mine for over 2 and half years. In that time I have had it sand, sloppy mud, caked mud, river crossings, snow, and even some light trails like the Gemini Bridge trail in Moab. I routinely check hog traps at the farm come rain , sleet, snow even when the raods are wash out. When is this thing suppose to break like you say? Oh wait, that's right....you were just talking out your @$$ because you really don't know from real world testing. You guys bash trucks that you never even driven and post things from forums and Youtube as if you know. Would you go to a doctor who gets all his info on forums or youtube? No you wouldn't. Go get some real world experience under your belt of driving these new trucks day in and day out before you bash. Oh wait....my bad again...you guys wouldn't even drive anything other then your fanboy loved trucks so getting some real world knowledge is out of the question for you guys. I guess it is just back to making ASSumptions of your selves. How much do these truck manufacturers pay you guys anyways?


Oh, yeah, and an Ecoboost can't go off road or through river crossing. Tell that to this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsFFeiA-jdw

If you guys want to start some kind post as much bad stuff as you can from the forums and youtube about each truck, then I am sure you will find enough to put every truck makes balls in the dirt. Not ONE truck make has NOT had their ISSUES. From Chevy's overheating, Rams rear end locking up, F150 misfire, and Tundra's frame issues not one is unaffected. To act like the one you are so in love with doesn't have issues is just about ignorant. Actually it it worse than ignorant. Ignorance is just not knowing something yet. I would call it full blown stupid because you are just choosing not to know.

@ALL1 Go get some real world experience? I have I bought tWo f150s 06 and a 08 both where total trash but motor wise they where okay just gutless the 4.6L (06) seem to have more balls then my 5.4L (08). I am working with MSL guys daily with two eco boost they are junk I said my father 5.0 has been great other then a few problems and I stated why.

@ALL1 Go get some real world experience? I have I bought tWo f150s 06 and a 08 both where total trash but motor wise they where okay just gutless the 4.6L (06) seem to have more balls then my 5.4L (08). I am working with MSL guys daily with two eco boost they are junk I said my father 5.0 has been great other then a few problems and I stated why. Hell I've even said my Chevy 1500 bust leaf springs the same time and mileage my Fords have muilt times.

We get it you're a butt hurt Ford owner that takes you're truck off road maybe 2 times a year. You don't know any better you mall crawl with you're tuner trying to get chicks. The eco boost works great for that but its not a full blown work engine.

Sorry Mr. Doe. From your actions of posting on this website, I can hold anything you say is the truth. Maybe f you weren't so fanboyish and did not post so much BS all the time then I might believe you a little. As it stands I right now, I would believe Obama before I believe anything that you say. Although I will not put you in the same category as him. I would have to believe that you are a lot better then him even though I never met you.

**** I can't hold anything you say as the truth.

@johnnie doe

Sorry to not fit the mental image you want of me, but I don't do the mall crawl what ever that is. I tow 10k trailer with a hunting truck, water, and supplies over 100 miles away at least twice a year during hunting season. Eight miles of that trip is off road to get to the camp house and their is not telling if the roads are washed out from the years rain. During the summer I tow 8,500 RV at least 3 times a year. The rest of the time I tow or haul hog traps, cattle, hay, or anything else my father in law needs on his 500+ acre farm. My truck does have dent and brush marks already and it almost always stays dirty. I have had my Ecoboost in just about any off road terrain you can think of even going through some river beds pushing water like the pictures above. This truck is not a city truck, and I don't take it easy on it or any of my trucks. I bought them to work and work is what I expect them to do. I don't know what happened with these supposed trucks you had but I can attest that mine have handle the abuse and my last one is still around and was handed down to my nephew. Lord knows what that boy puts my old 05 through when him and his buddies are bored on a small town Saturday night. Point being, if it were junk then it would have handled what I put it through. If you don't believe me then let me know when you are down around San Antonio, Tx and I will make a special trip up to the city to show you.

Im sure all the Rams used in that demo are now currently broken. Those tiny sway bars and links in the rear end are for sure broken. Im sure rust has already started to occur.

@Johnny Dope

No you don'y have those cars you're a lier and you no nothing about vehicles in general. You're talking about oil spilling on your garage... Uh you should have something on your garage floor to collect the oil. Second an engine can't have an alternator on the bottom of the engine LMAO. They are on the same side of the engine as all the accessary pullies.

Ram has had 6 recalls this year. GM trucks... steering column recall anti-theft device issues, airbag problems, ridiculous exposed DEF tank sticking out of the bottom of the frame, transmission clunking... the problems list keeps going.

Meanwhile EGOBOOST is highest in customer satisfaction.

Sigh... Johnny Doe and HEMIV8 you two trolls need to get a roon.

@Johnnie Doe - IIRC, my truck's alternator looks like it is pretty much in the same spot as it is on the EB 3.5. Same can be said for the air intake.
That is basically my point. Where is this offroad problem that you and others are talking about?
The rest of the truck is basically the same.

Usually it boils down to misuse or abuse. I've seen that happen plenty regardless of the badge on the hood. You hand the keys of a fleet truck to an employee and all bets are off.

I bought a 2010 with 5.4 because it was 12K off of MSRP plus 3k trade on a '99 Safari. I didn't even bother with the 5.3 of that vintage. Sure the 5.3 gets better mpg but it doesn't have any torque, the GMT900 cab was a joke, and no 6.5 box in a crewcab.
I've seen enough GMT800's and GMT900's fall apart around that 5.3 or 6.0 drivetrain to know that I wouldn't want one. Chevy has a reliable drivetrain but not the rest of the truck.

The 2014's might turn out to be better since they addressed the shortcomings of the GMT900.

Like @All1 said, if you and HemiV8 were to cut the crap, you might be believable.

Too be honest, I'm not sold on the EB3.5 yet. I have yet to meet an owner of one that is disappointed. That says a lot.

I have a neighbour who isn't very happy with his 2011 Sierra. Does that mean all Sierra's are crap?
No.
But it does catch my attention when he says his '96 5.4 F150 pulled his 24 ft camper trailer better.

My brother's company trucks are usually completely dead around 60-100,000 miles. He had one hit 140,000 miles but he was getting afraid to go out in the bush with it. Does that mean Chevy's are junk because they don't last in his hands?
No.
Nothing lasts in his hands since he spends most of his time on gravel roads.
I'm sure that any Ford they give him will meet the same fate. No different with any Dodge/Ram he has driven.

Each one has strong points and weak points.

That is why big fleets do not give a $h!t about the badge. They want the cheapest because they all die at the same rate.


@Lou_BC

I think you make great point Lou. All1 really isn't at fault for anything though. HEMIV8 Is just a troll like Johnny Doe (it's likely that they're actually the same person) posting their one sided off topic comments.

Personally I'm just playing devils advocate here because I hate trolls like them/him.

LET THE JEALOUS FAN BOI'S HATE! I KNOW WHAT MY NEXT TRUCK IS GOING TO BE. THE CLASS LEADING, TOW KING, AWARD WINNING RAM TRUCKS.

LET THE ASS KICKING COMMENCE!

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@Dafuq I had a oil drain pan under the truck in the drive way but the oil runs all over the skid plate instead of in the crappy plastic drain funnel Ford has under the truck.

(Second an engine can't have an alternator on the bottom of the engine LMAO)

Um yeah I am here to tell you the alternator is on the buttom side of the Motor on the 5.0L where the water and mud can easily screw it up. Here I'll even post a link showing a photo of it if you don't believe me.

http://www.f150forum.com/f12/2011-5-0-alternator-issues-203159/

@HEMI V8 - do you really and truly believe the stuff you post? I've had reasonable conversations with you and you've been logical and have made tons of sense.
Your fanboy angle doesn't make sense.

" THE CLASS LEADING, TOW KING, AWARD WINNING RAM TRUCKS."

You want a 6.4 Hemi Power Wagon - class leading? It is a class of one.
Tow King - you aren't in the market for a diesel.
We discussed this point before - the numbers are just on paper so far.
How long will that lead last?
Until Ford or Chevy come to the table with their next model.

"AWARD WINNING RAM TRUCKS" - you seem to be forgetting that they ALL win awards.

@HEMIV8

I'm starting to think you have a scewed thought process. You should realize you're the one comming on here posting off topic comments blasting everything that isn't a Ram.

@Johnny Doe

I've chainged the oil on several of those 5.0's they're no messier than 60% of the vehicles i change the I work on at Grease Monkey.

I know where the alternator is but I checked that link anyway. That doesn't qualify as on the underside of the engine, not is that an odd location for an alternator. Manufacturers choose pully location for optimum balance and belt tension. I have seen more Rams come in with front air dams falling off than any problem with an F-150 alternator.

@ AllAmerican

Hey thanks for posting those links of the new Sierra off-roading, that truck looks really good with that body colored grill and those NON-chrome wheels.

@dafuq, JUST TROLLING THE TROLLS!

@Lou BC, Some of these post's were not made by me. ;)

#10 & #22

To all the Ford Fan club. What does Ford have over Dodge trucks? I can give you a list of class leading, class exclusive features from Dodge that G.M. and Ford do NOT offer. Please tell me more than cheap fleet sales.

@HEMI V8 - thanks for the warning. Trolls who multi-post are a PIA (and I'm not talking driving lights..haha).

@Lou BC, Can you answer this? My above post.

TROLLS!

Chrysler to recall 140K Grand Cherokees, Ram trucks
USA TODAY-Oct 2, 2013
Chrysler Group LLC will recall more than 140,000 Jeep Grand Cherokees and Ram pickups worldwide to upgrade software to fix electrical ...

Chrysler recalling nearly 141k vehicles over electrical woes
Autoblog (blog)-Oct 2, 2013
Software glitches that randomly illuminate warning lights and cause instrument cluster blackouts are forcing Chrysler to recall 140,800 vehicles, ...

What does Ford have over Fiat?

Resale, reliablity, crash safety,higher USA content, to name a few, and the peace of mind that the company will still be around in 20 years and not be passed around like a drunk floozy at a frat party in the meantime... .

Ford Recall 2013: 370,000 Vehicles Recalled For Steering Control Loss Due To Corrosion
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Who needs to steer? It's built ford tough. I guess those crash ratings will save you Dav. LMAO!

Ford recalls 2013 Escapes for fire risk - warns against driving them. lol

Ford issues 3 recalls, including one for 465K vehicles.

Ford Motor Co. issued three recalls for 2013 models Friday, including calling back 465,000 vehicles for fire risks after 600 complaints of fuel leaks.

Ford==Fire waiting for a place to happen.lol

@HemiV8 - it is cyclical and related to the development cycle of the pickup.
When I purchased my truck in 2010, the only advantage Ram had was the 5.7 hemi. The transmission didn't work as well as Ford's. They did not have a 6.5 box in a crewcab. The truck with the best drivetrain in 2010 was the Tundra but it was too expensive and there were things I didn't like about it. (Cost, no 6.5 box crewcab, bouncy ride)
Ultimately - every source I looked at put the Ram behind Ford, GMC/Chev, and Tundra for durability.

Ford has seen a drop in quality and durability since the 2011 introduction of their new engine lineup and with My Touch.
Ram still rates behind the above listed vehicles when trucks are isolated from general statistics. One can say that Ram brand rated better by JD power over Ford brand but that spread was negligible.

GM has the top spots in 2013 but those spots are held by the GMC and Sierra Sibling HD trucks with the Avalanche in 3rd.
IIRC, the F150 was 4th. That would make it #1 in 1/2 tons if you consider the Avalanche an SUV. 2nd if you don't.

Other sources like Vincentric and Consumer Reports follow similar patterns. TrueDelta actually rated Ford F150 higher for the 2010 with a slight drop for 2012 and 2013.

I could spend time correlating data on the 2012 and 2013 trucks but I'm not in the market for a new truck and it is a ton of work for what?

That should be what PUTC does but as I've read elsewhere on other Blogs, car companies an/will "blacklist" journalists that make them look bad.
Journalists and car companies exist in symbiosis. Journalists rely on car companies for the keys to the press fleet, and in turn car companies expect a politically correct review.

Wow a lot of trash talk going on, I (like most people) don't think I could name more than a couple people in my network who have brand new trucks. So when people make claims like they know a whole bunch of people with brand new EcoBoosts and how every one of them has problems and wish they bought a Chevy, I just feel sorry for you that you think you have to write stories to make yourself feel better. Maybe you think you can slow down Ford's sales lead in support of #TeamChevy. Who the hell knows what some of you are thinking?

I appreciate your honesty Lou BC. Wasn't it you that said and i quote."Ram is the class leader that all others will follow." I agree with that statement.

Ram has more options and class exclusive features that no one else offer's. My 03 has been more than reliable. The award winning Hemi V8 has proven itself over the last 10 years. If the Ford and G.M guys don't realize Ram has more to offer. They are nothing more than BLIND fan bois.

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@Alex, Yes, this site, you and others are at it again and this site has gone down hill, especially with jealous dolts who always mock Mopar/Chrysler/RAM non stop! Such as the people posting on this thread on the new 3500 Rams which carry more than 6,700 pounds of payload and tow a fifth-wheel or gooseneck trailer weighing more than 30,000 pounds!

For many many years on this site people put down Dodge RAM trucks. Then some people started to stand up for RAM and the jealous Ford/GM/Toyota people could NOT stand it because the facts are RAM has a better residual than GM or Ford, better brand reliability,, and in Canada RAM is the most reliable truck around. Thse are the facts that make thee non-Mopar fans resorting into name calling for RAM/Mopar vehicles, such as people do here. What a shame your jealousy/ignorance ruined this site.

@The Jealous Ram Haters, As you all do in your post, you are part of the disintegration of this site and society as a whole. People today are narcissists, who post every mundane detail about their life on Facebook (I dont have a facebook account or even go to it) who cares what the meal you ate looked like or the sunset looked like today. Some things should just be kept to yourself, as people cannot comprehend today and as such this society is going down faster than a GM truck !

Just like the jealous people Ford/GM/Toyota fans can't comprehend the fact that their brand of vehicle uses a Chrysler HEMI in Top Fuel, yes Ford cried and said we want to pretend the 426 HEMI motor is really a Ford, so they all slap GM/Ford/Toyota emblems on the valve covers of a MOPAR HEMI and call it their brands. Another reason I detest GM/Ford/Toyota is they can't come up with a reliable 30,000 MAX TOW 3500 HD truck and engine of their own.

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@HEMI V8,
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@MoparMan, Amen!

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@Lou BC, "I bought a 2010 Ford with 5.4 because it was 12K off of MSRP. Again i appreciate your honesty. ;))

P.S. I bought my 03 Ram because of it's looks, Class kicking horsepower and torque, 6.4 bed quad cab. class leading 7 70,000 warranty, 20 inch rims, class exclusive load flat floor,tightest turning radius with class exclusive rack and pinion
steering,fully boxed hydroformed frame from front to back. I could have bought any truck i wanted. I chose the best. Dodge Ram.

@HEMI V8- the biggest difference between my post and your's is that I did not imply that Ford is the best or brand brag.

Your post implies that Ram is the best period, now and forever... amen!

It isn't.

It was the best choice for you and maybe was the best truck in 2003 but things change.

If you are going to cut and paste my posts at least have the decency to use all of my post.

In2010:
The Ram was sitting with a slightly lower discount and so was the Chevy. IIRC 9-10K. The deals were slightly better on the Ford as I pointed out, BUT was rated at the top for durability. Ford's new engine line up was what precipitated the big discounts on the 2010's.

Spin it any way you want - Ram has an uphill battle trying to gain consumer confidence.
Ford has "it", Toyota has "it" and so does GMC/Chevy.

Ram/Chrysler/Jeep/Fiat is still trying to earn "it".

If you or others don't know how to earn consumer confidence, then maybe you and the fanboys need to look at your own posts.

Confidence is earned, just like respect is earned. Those two go together.
Blathering on about guts glory ram does not earn anyone's respect or any respect for a truck.

BTW, I am talking about 1/2 tons. The big "C" on the side of a Ram HD brings a lot of credibility to that brand but many still don't trust the truck wrapped around that I-6 Cummins.

Looks like the trolls are back to trying to make Ram look bad and rile up the opposite brands.
What a bunch of troll babies.
Fake posters with:

No Guts

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No Brains

It probably is my stalker at work again.

HEMI V8 came on this site 1 year ago and was cool to all.
Then TROLLS like Lou and Frank started in with their Ford truck bull$hit after their precious ford got whipped by the Ram Runner in the off-road shootout. We choose the best. Dodge Ram. At the end of the day, HEMI V8 had a P.O.S Ford once it burned from a faulty switch and I lost $5,000.00!!!!

P.S. We can post what ever I want on here so kiss my @$$!

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All best in class Ram!!!

Posted by: HEMI V8 | Oct 10, 2012 11:02:00 PM



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