2013 L.A. Auto Show Highlights

Mark Reuss Colorado 2 II

The Los Angeles Auto Show is typically seen as the first auto show of the season where manufacturers can introduce or reveal concepts or future production models. This year, the vehicle of the show was the 2015 Chevy Colorado, which used Los Angeles as the backdrop for its world debut.

Here are just some of the highlights from the show coverage so far, and we've even included a few car-centric posts from our colleagues at Cars.com, where they've identified the winners and losers. We'll be posting more pieces so check back later. 

 

2015 Chevy Colorado First Look

Video: 2015 Chevy Colorado

Facebook Photo Gallery (27 photos)

What Colorado Got Right

What Colorado Got Wrong

VIA Motors Extended Range V-TRUX

Five Minutes With Fred Diaz

Colorado vs. Tacoma Photo Comparison

LA Auto Show Winners/Losers

LA Auto Show Can't Miss

LA Auto Show Luxury Winners/Losers

Five Minutes With Reid Bigland

Final Notes from the Show

 

Comments

Lou

I will make Michigan Bob's post real easy for you to understand.

F150 = 2004 OLD
Super Duty = 1999 OLD
Ranger = 1998 and DEAD

Fords: OLD OR DEAD.

Silverado = 2014 ALL NEW
Silverado HD = 2015 ALL NEW
Colorado = 2015 ALL NEW

Chevy & GM: all NEW.

Take off your Ford goggles and you would have undertood Bob's post. Fords are getting old. But like Mike used to say, Once you go grey, there is no other way!!!! LMAO

@Chris - GM's predictions of 125,000 units would be amazing. Toyota sold 140,490 units in 2012. Total segment sales were 276,702. These numbers include the defunct Ranger, SportTrac, and Dakota. Those 3 account for 21,825 units.

Is GMC naïve enough to believe that they will own 1/2 the compact truck market or expand it to where they own 1/3 of the market?

VW decided not to bring the Amarok to the USA because they felt that they would need to sell 100,000 units to turn a profit. I'm sure that an USA/EU FTA would open the doors to Amarok imports.

The large drop in gasoline prices will make these trucks a tougher sell based on fuel economy. Are there 125,000 small truck buyers out their waiting for an "American" only small truck?

Time will tell.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/03/update-total-retail-fleet-2012-sales.html

F150 = 2004 OLD
Super Duty = 1999 OLD
Ranger = 1998 and DEAD

Once you go grey, there is no other way!!!! LMAO
Posted by: Gregory Stevens | Nov 24, 2013 1:47:47 PM

LOL

For larger sales in midsizers the prices do have to drop on them in the US.

This would mean importing them. Quite a few people consider the midsizer to be a lesser pickup than a full size.

This is because all they have had in the US were mediocre midsizers.

Hopefully GM has improved the US Colorado compared to the global Colorado, as it is the worse of the new midsizer entrants here in Australia.

GM has a tendency to improve on itself or make a slight improvement on its competitor. It rarely makes a 'leaps and bounds' improvement it concentrates mainly on 'just enough' improvements to maintain market.

Chev or GM isn't much of a innovative leader, that is one area I do give Fiat/Ram credit.

The difference now is Chev will have to expand in a smallish market segement. To do this they might need more than a slight improvement. But, this smallish market segement was a lot more significant previously.

Full sizers have improved rapidly over the past decade and the US midsizers haven't improved like their global siblings.

It's a pity VW or Ford didn't introduce the US to their midsizers as this would have been a bit of an eye opener for some of the guys on this site.

The best way to increase the midsize market is to remove the chicken taxes and other barriers. This will allow for small imports by VW of the Amarok, Mazda with the BT50, etc.

For larger sales in midsizers the prices do have to drop on them in the US.

This would mean importing them. Quite a few people consider the midsizer to be a lesser pickup than a full size.

This is because all they have had in the US were mediocre midsizers.

Hopefully GM has improved the US Colorado compared to the global Colorado, as it is the worse of the new midsizer entrants here in Australia.

GM has a tendency to improve on itself or make a slight improvement on its competitor. It rarely makes a 'leaps and bounds' improvement it concentrates mainly on 'just enough' improvements to maintain market.

Chev or GM isn't much of a innovative leader, that is one area I do give Fiat/Ram credit.

The difference now is Chev will have to expand in a smallish market segement. To do this they might need more than a slight improvement. But, this smallish market segement was a lot more significant previously.

Full sizers have improved rapidly over the past decade and the US midsizers haven't improved like their global siblings.

It's a pity VW or Ford didn't introduce the US to their midsizers as this would have been a bit of an eye opener for some of the guys on this site.

The best way to increase the midsize market is to remove the chicken taxes and other barriers. This will allow for small imports by VW of the Amarok, Mazda with the BT50, etc.

For larger sales in midsizers the prices do have to drop on them in the US.

This would mean importing them. Quite a few people consider the midsizer to be a lesser pickup than a full size.

This is because all they have had in the US were mediocre midsizers.

Hopefully GM has improved the US Colorado compared to the global Colorado, as it is the worse of the new midsizer entrants here in Australia.

GM has a tendency to improve on itself or make a slight improvement on its competitor. It rarely makes a 'leaps and bounds' improvement it concentrates mainly on 'just enough' improvements to maintain market.

Chev or GM isn't much of a innovative leader, that is one area I do give Fiat/Ram credit.

The difference now is Chev will have to expand in a smallish market segement. To do this they might need more than a slight improvement. But, this smallish market segement was a lot more significant previously.

Full sizers have improved rapidly over the past decade and the US midsizers haven't improved like their global siblings.

It's a pity VW or Ford didn't introduce the US to their midsizers as this would have been a bit of an eye opener for some of the guys on this site.

The best way to increase the midsize market is to remove the chicken taxes and other barriers. This will allow for small imports by VW of the Amarok, Mazda with the BT50, etc.

Another reason is look at the numbers.

When Ford dropped the Ranger, Ford justified this by thinking that everyone that didn't have a Ranger to go to would buy a Ford F-150, etc, they didn't.

Also, total midsize sales dropped when the Ranger was dropped and look at the US Ranger it was a early 1980s pickup a far cry from what the current global midsizers are.

So by looking at the number availability has had as much a impact on midsizer numbers as the poor quality of the NA midsizer in comparison to the advancement of full size trucks. So more midsize brands will equate to larger midsize sales. Especially now with the midsizers on par with full size trucks in general performance, driving dynamics, etc.

GM/Chev picked up on this by a simple trending of data. It is apparent there is a requirement for a larger midsizer presence in the US. Even with all of the tariffs and barriers stopping the importation of a cheaper pickup to the US consumer.

Again;

If you look at the total global pickup market (including the US/Canada) you will see a shift in both design and manufacture of pickups.

The latest and most significant changes have been globally in the pickup world.

Take VW for starters, they are new in the pickup manufacturing segment and have produce what is arguably the best pickup for the future. Their sales have outstripped expectations. This has come from Germany, not a re-known pickup country.

Take the global Ranger/BT50, again designed outside of the US. These are again exceptional pickups in the fact they have jumped a couple of generation in one model, like the Amarok.

The new Hilux/Taco replacement, again, being designed outside of the US. The only major player in the pickup world is Nissan. They may still design the next Navara/Frontier in La Jolla, Cal. If they do it will not be a US inspired vehicle, but probably the first attempt in the US to design a global pickup for the global market first, not the "shrinking US market". This is what the US needs to do.

The Chinese are designing pickups, with the use of US and the Europeans, ie, Cummins, Getrag, Bosch, Dana, Borg Warner, etc. They will be the ones to watch out for down the track in another 10 years or so.

Chevy, by introducing this Colorado is as much a significant gamble as it is a market need.

Again;

If you look at the total global pickup market (including the US/Canada) you will see a shift in both design and manufacture of pickups.

The latest and most significant changes have been globally in the pickup world.

Take VW for starters, they are new in the pickup manufacturing segment and have produce what is arguably the best pickup for the future. Their sales have outstripped expectations. This has come from Germany, not a re-known pickup country.

Take the global Ranger/BT50, again designed outside of the US. These are again exceptional pickups in the fact they have jumped a couple of generation in one model, like the Amarok.

The new Hilux/Taco replacement, again, being designed outside of the US. The only major player in the pickup world is Nissan. They may still design the next Navara/Frontier in La Jolla, Cal. If they do it will not be a US inspired vehicle, but probably the first attempt in the US to design a global pickup for the global market first, not the "shrinking US market". This is what the US needs to do.

The Chinese are designing pickups, with the use of US and the Europeans, ie, Cummins, Getrag, Bosch, Dana, Borg Warner, etc. They will be the ones to watch out for down the track in another 10 years or so.

Chevy, by introducing this Colorado is as much a significant gamble as it is a market need.

Again;

If you look at the total global pickup market (including the US/Canada) you will see a shift in both design and manufacture of pickups.

The latest and most significant changes have been globally in the pickup world.

Take VW for starters, they are new in the pickup manufacturing segment and have produce what is arguably the best pickup for the future. Their sales have outstripped expectations. This has come from Germany, not a re-known pickup country.

Take the global Ranger/BT50, again designed outside of the US. These are again exceptional pickups in the fact they have jumped a couple of generation in one model, like the Amarok.

The new Hilux/Taco replacement, again, being designed outside of the US. The only major player in the pickup world is Nissan. They may still design the next Navara/Frontier in La Jolla, Cal. If they do it will not be a US inspired vehicle, but probably the first attempt in the US to design a global pickup for the global market first, not the "shrinking US market". This is what the US needs to do.

The Chinese are designing pickups, with the use of US and the Europeans, ie, Cummins, Getrag, Bosch, Dana, Borg Warner, etc. They will be the ones to watch out for down the track in another 10 years or so.

Chevy, by introducing this Colorado is as much a significant gamble as it is a market need.

2015 will be an interesting year. If I remember correctly Toyota is also redoing the Tacoma. Mid size truck market is getting some great options...finally.

@Gregory Stevens - you obviously don't understand design orthodoxy - evolution not revolution.
Chevy has taken a revolutionary step with the Colorado since it is head and shoulders ahead of the Colorado it replaces but in terms of the small truck market, it isn't a huge leap ahead of the Tacoma.
The 2014 Chevy and Silverado aren't huge leaps foreward either.

The only revolutionary truck of the bunch was the 1994 Ram which was a huge leap forward for Dodge. It brought their truck line out of the 1970's.

@The Real Lou
The new Colorado I think is one generation in front of the Taco, not a huge leap like the Amarok or Ranger. I would like to see the impact of the 'Americanisation' of the Colorado. Chev are trying to increase market share without sacrificing to many Silverado's.

The best option would have been the Chev styling and interior changes to the global, with a the softer US suspension. But weight and meeting the more stringent CAFE measures for a midsizer than a full size made this more awkward.

A bit of a balancing act. Midsizer can't increase in size and remain a midsizer, but a full size can and still be a full size.

The biggest area for improvement would be the on road dynamics. Here they are reviewed as 'more trucklike', but still better than the Hilux and Izuzu based Colorado's we had.

I really think Ford misjudged the consumer by thinking that removing the US Ranger and having them purchase either a F-150 or another Ford product.

There is room for a larger midsize market as is shown by the removal of the Ranger and the sales that went to other platforms. The midsize market will not be as large as the full size market, but it can at least double or triple.

But the golden eggs are the full size pickups and we know the lengths Detroit goes to, to protect them from 'outside' competition.

@The Real Lou
The new Colorado I think is one generation in front of the Taco, not a huge leap like the Amarok or Ranger. I would like to see the impact of the 'Americanisation' of the Colorado. Chev are trying to increase market share without sacrificing to many Silverado's.

The best option would have been the Chev styling and interior changes to the global, with a the softer US suspension. But weight and meeting the more stringent CAFE measures for a midsizer than a full size made this more awkward.

A bit of a balancing act. Midsizer can't increase in size and remain a midsizer, but a full size can and still be a full size.

The biggest area for improvement would be the on road dynamics. Here they are reviewed as 'more trucklike', but still better than the Hilux and Izuzu based Colorado's we had.

I really think Ford misjudged the consumer by thinking that removing the US Ranger and having them purchase either a F-150 or another Ford product.

There is room for a larger midsize market as is shown by the removal of the Ranger and the sales that went to other platforms. The midsize market will not be as large as the full size market, but it can at least double or triple.

But the golden eggs are the full size pickups and we know the lengths Detroit goes to, to protect them from 'outside' competition.

@The Real Lou
The new Colorado I think is one generation in front of the Taco, not a huge leap like the Amarok or Ranger. I would like to see the impact of the 'Americanisation' of the Colorado. Chev are trying to increase market share without sacrificing to many Silverado's.

The best option would have been the Chev styling and interior changes to the global, with a the softer US suspension. But weight and meeting the more stringent CAFE measures for a midsizer than a full size made this more awkward.

A bit of a balancing act. Midsizer can't increase in size and remain a midsizer, but a full size can and still be a full size.

The biggest area for improvement would be the on road dynamics. Here they are reviewed as 'more trucklike', but still better than the Hilux and Izuzu based Colorado's we had.

I really think Ford misjudged the consumer by thinking that removing the US Ranger and having them purchase either a F-150 or another Ford product.

There is room for a larger midsize market as is shown by the removal of the Ranger and the sales that went to other platforms. The midsize market will not be as large as the full size market, but it can at least double or triple.

But the golden eggs are the full size pickups and we know the lengths Detroit goes to, to protect them from 'outside' competition.

7 pages of problems with the 2013 Holden Colorado. Hope GM fixed them for the US version.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au:8080/_phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=141477

Reliability has always been Toyota pickup's strong selling point. Doesn't look like the new Colorado will change that. In all likelihood it will make but a small dent in Tacoma sales, while helping to kill the segment's weakest player - the Frontier.

@ Ken Lyns
I have read the so called 7 pages of problems.

I'm no GM fan, but half the comments are actually stating that they haven't had a problem yet.

Also, most of the problems are superficial.

So, what the point? This is the second article you posted this on PUTC.

Are you one of those fan boi's?

Ram/Dodge learned it isn't that much cheaper to build a midsize, the kind that leaves folks wishing they went ahead and bought the bigger one. Most sure will when they have to move something big.

lol, the trucks Robert Ryan and BAFO have have grossly exagerated payload ratings.

@johney doe: does GM even make 4500 and up trucks? Do they make a diesel half ton? So yeah, GM will get another midsize...but there are a few things missing in their lineup.

We will watch as their v-6 truck prob only gets 1 mpg better then a Ram v-6, at which time folks will realize most these midsizers are just good for more garage space...

@TRX 4 Tom
The demand in the US isn't large enough to build the midsizers in the quantities required. That's why the tariffs and barriers should be removed so vehicles like the Amarok, BT50 etc can be imported in smaller numbers.

This gives the consumers more choice. Why stiffle choice, because you don't like a particular vehicle it shouldn't be allowed to be sold?

As for your "folks wishing", then that will go against GM's decision. Do you have better marketing people to trend data than GM? I think not. So your comment is very subjective. The reality might not suit your paradigms.

Remember it is a pointless exercise to import them (chicken tax). Also, full size trucks are the gravy train for the Big 3.

But with this Colorado, if it can be made well, will sell. They aren't small in comparison to your average car. I think that is what Chev are hoping for, someone who wants utility, carry a family and can tow a decent boat or camper trailer. In diesel form it will be the most economical pickup for FE.

Full size trucks are good if you can use it. But not all people require that. Like a car, not everyone buys a Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon here, they must be better because they are bigger. Maybe Australia should have the Chicken Tax equivalent, we should call it the Koala Tax on any vehicle that isn't manufactured in this country.

But we would be going back to the 1970's. Progress, not really.

It seems GM thinks they can sell the Colorado in sufficient numbers for the US market to allow for local manufacture.

This means the midsize market according to GM must be at least twice it's current size.

@TRX 4 Tom
The demand in the US isn't large enough to build the midsizers in the quantities required. That's why the tariffs and barriers should be removed so vehicles like the Amarok, BT50 etc can be imported in smaller numbers.

This gives the consumers more choice. Why stiffle choice, because you don't like a particular vehicle it shouldn't be allowed to be sold?

As for your "folks wishing", then that will go against GM's decision. Do you have better marketing people to trend data than GM? I think not. So your comment is very subjective. The reality might not suit your paradigms.

Remember it is a pointless exercise to import them (chicken tax). Also, full size trucks are the gravy train for the Big 3.

But with this Colorado, if it can be made well, will sell. They aren't small in comparison to your average car. I think that is what Chev are hoping for, someone who wants utility, carry a family and can tow a decent boat or camper trailer. In diesel form it will be the most economical pickup for FE.

Full size trucks are good if you can use it. But not all people require that. Like a car, not everyone buys a Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon here, they must be better because they are bigger. Maybe Australia should have the Chicken Tax equivalent, we should call it the Koala Tax on any vehicle that isn't manufactured in this country.

But we would be going back to the 1970's. Progress, not really.

It seems GM thinks they can sell the Colorado in sufficient numbers for the US market to allow for local manufacture.

This means the midsize market according to GM must be at least twice it's current size.

@TRX 4 Tom
The demand in the US isn't large enough to build the midsizers in the quantities required. That's why the tariffs and barriers should be removed so vehicles like the Amarok, BT50 etc can be imported in smaller numbers.

This gives the consumers more choice. Why stiffle choice, because you don't like a particular vehicle it shouldn't be allowed to be sold?

As for your "folks wishing", then that will go against GM's decision. Do you have better marketing people to trend data than GM? I think not. So your comment is very subjective. The reality might not suit your paradigms.

Remember it is a pointless exercise to import them (chicken tax). Also, full size trucks are the gravy train for the Big 3.

But with this Colorado, if it can be made well, will sell. They aren't small in comparison to your average car. I think that is what Chev are hoping for, someone who wants utility, carry a family and can tow a decent boat or camper trailer. In diesel form it will be the most economical pickup for FE.

Full size trucks are good if you can use it. But not all people require that. Like a car, not everyone buys a Holden Commodore or Ford Falcon here, they must be better because they are bigger. Maybe Australia should have the Chicken Tax equivalent, we should call it the Koala Tax on any vehicle that isn't manufactured in this country.

But we would be going back to the 1970's. Progress, not really.

It seems GM thinks they can sell the Colorado in sufficient numbers for the US market to allow for local manufacture.

This means the midsize market according to GM must be at least twice it's current size.

@Big Al from Oz
Considering that you are the resident troll on PUTC, I find it interesting that the quality of your trolling as been declining lately. I have to admit, some of your trolling makes me and other laugh, but lately stuff you have been doing such as the posting the same post 2-3 times is getting really old really fast. If you are determined to troll(assuming PUTC decides to continue and do nothing about your BS), please come up with something more creative or even better, try to have a reasonable debate.

@DiM
I don't troll.

I'm not a paid mouth piece for the UAW. I don't work in the socialist call centre like some of you guys do trying to promote poor decisions and trying to convince others that a socialised and protected vehicle market is the thing thing since sliced bread.

Commrade DiM or do you guys call each other 'friend' now.

@TRXTom,
Not only you are getting watered down Global Midsizers as "Lifestyle vehicles" and all the negative implications that implies but your Full Size Pickups are a slightly bigger version of these "Lifestyle vehicles"
A 3/4 ton at least has a half decent payload and towing capacity.

TRX 4 Tom 4500's are coming.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/11/gm-looks-to-develop-black-hole-medium-duty-truck/

So there's no confusion--The #2015ChevyColorado has NOTHING in common with #GlobalColorado. Every piece, completely different.

But that doesn't mean they won't try to do more platform sharing here down the road. This investment has been huge.

- Mark Williams, editor

https://twitter.com/pickuptrucks

@Tj,
"So there's no confusion--The #2015ChevyColorado has NOTHING in common with #GlobalColorado. Every piece, completely different"

Unfortunately that is the case. You have a "Lifestyle Vehicle"

From the off-roading and modding world:

1-piece front bumper? How do you mount anything like winch bumper, etc... with that?

Manual tranny is a must.

Square wheel wells mean more $$$ to get larger tires or you can grind away, your choice.

I am sure we will get more but at least they are building one with welfare money.

We will see how their Tacoma look-a-like front suspension holds up, took them 19 years to design one like the Tacoma had back in 1995. Also the same holds true for the locking rear diff.

In fact this whole pickup is behind the Tacoma almost a decade.

That's ok the Tacoma needs some competition and it will make the 3rd generation even that much sweeter!

expedition what drugs are you on little boy?

"1-piece front bumper? How do you mount anything like winch bumper"

Probably the same way the mount things on the tac 1-piece front bumper you dumb a@$

"Manual tranny is a must"

If you could read better then a 4 year old they strait up said they were going to offer a Manual transmission.

" same holds true for the locking rear diff"

GM has offer some from of a locking rear diff since the 1940s you f&*k jack a^&

@joe
I will support expedition on this one.

I have a one piece front end on my BT50. I had a bullbar fitted. To fit it a template is used to make a cut out in the front so not to disrupt how the airbag sensors are set up.

Bullbars also come as winch bars, the winch can be fitted to them. So if a bullbar or winch bar can be fitted why not a winch?

Seems logical, not a great engineering feat.

It is largely a Silverado underneath, but I HOPE AND PRAY that they kept the global axle housings. The AAM IFS and AAM 860 rear end both have ARB lockers available for them, and if the global diesel gets the air intake on the same side I will be sitting fat and happy.

@Michigan Bob

How did Ford lose already? Are you referring to the 2015 Colorado? It is not even out yet and is a 2015. It will be competing against the all new 2015 F-150 which will be a tough case for the Colorado to "win" against. And for all the small size people I showed above the Colorado is not that small. Please, Bob, explain what you are talking about.

Posted by: Chris | Nov 24, 2013 11:55:15 AM

@ Chris

Ford LOSES AGAIN because it does NOT HAVE A COMPETITOR IN THE SMALL TRUCK SEGMENT. The rest of their offerings are OUTDATED AS A MOLDY LOAF OF BREAD.
How does the Colorado compete against the F-150 as you say?? They are in TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SEGMENTS!!!

F150 = 2004 OLD
Super Duty = 1999 OLD
Ranger = 1998 and DEAD

Once you go grey, there is no other way!!!! LMAO
Posted by: Gregory Stevens | Nov 24, 2013 1:47:47 PM

LOL

Posted by: Bob's personal trainer | Nov 24, 2013 2:12:57 PM

The old Ranger body style ACTUALLY WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1993. It only got a facelift and a new dash back in 1998. It came over on the MAYFLOWER. LMAO

98 Ranger got a new cab, engine and suspension but don't let the facts get in the way. Ford doesn't need a Ranger here because the 2015 F-150 will be more fuel efficient than the Silverado. Ford is getting more done with 2 truck lines. GM needs 6 truck lines and a bailout.

@expedition,

Tacoma fenders are squarish too, and the Tacoma bumper is one piece.

http://reviewcars2014.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2014-Toyota-Tacoma-side.jpg

"Ford LOSES AGAIN because it does NOT HAVE A COMPETITOR IN THE SMALL TRUCK SEGMENT."

Bob,

This truck is not "small". It is bigger than a Tacoma and 90% to 97% the size of a Silverado.

Here's some dimensions for you guys to review:
The Colorado is 3" longer than a Tacoma CC longbed which people were arguing was almost as long as a full-size and seen as a negative. Now the Colorado is 3" longer.

On the Colorado shortbed crewcab it is 212.3" long. The Silverado short bed is 230.03" long.

212.3"/230.03" =92.3% the length of a Silverado. (short bed to short bed)

Colorado 6' bed Crew Cab: 224.1" long
Silvrado 5.5' bed Crew Cab: 230" long
224.1/230= 97.4% the length of a Silverado

Width: Colorado 74.3" wide, Silverado 80" wide.
74.3/80=93% of the width of a Silverado.

http://wot.motortrend.com/1311_dimensions_2015_chevrolet_colorado_vs_frontier_vs_tacoma.html

Colorado is not that small.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 24, 2013 11:38:53 AM

Bob,

Since you are talking small truck segment, I'll also compare a regular cab Silverado to a Colorado extended cab. (No RC in a Colorado.)

Colorado extended cab: 208.2" long
Silverado regular cab: 205.57" long
Colorado is 1.3% longer than the Silverado!

The Colorado is 97% the width!
The Colorado is 96% of the height!

I think Ford and Ram may have been right that there is not a big difference in size.

Smallest Colorado vs Smallest Silverado

Rectangular Volume:

Colorado EC
1090582.8299999998

Silverado RC
1216481.032

Colorado takes up 90% of the volume of a Silverado.

And, Bob, Ford has a new Ranger but they won't sell it here becuase it is 90% the size of F-150. Colorado will compete against the Silvy because it is 90% the size.

GUTS

GLORY

MOWING DOWN THE COMPETITION

RAM

WINNING JUST BOUT EVER RACE AND CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1tlJxId9w

Going through the comments on here is not much better than pulling weeds. Anyway, it's cool to see something new in the segment. Still disappointed that they opted for the 3.6 over the 4.3 over fuel economy allegedly... which is kind of funny because the new 4.3 in the Silverado rivals the fuel economy in the Equinox and Traverse with the 3.6... the 4.3 (with the option at least of a manual) would have been exciting. the Z71 is a trim level now? I'm sure fans would love to see the ZR2 come back. It looks like a cool truck though.

Looks like a hard core off roader Colorado is in the works

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/11/more-aggressive-off-road-variant-reportedly-on-track-for-chevrolet-colorado/

Mr. Mark William,
Will it be the 3.42 rear axle gear on the Z71 model ?

Dag nabbit! Everytime there is a GM post the Ford girly men have to bash GM. If you don't like GM, get out of the GM posts!

By the way, I find it hilarious how the Ford fan girls in here bash Chevy for how ugly their trucks are. ISN'T THAT WHAT FORDS ARE? UGLY? Ford's new van and Atlas concept is so FRIGGEN UGLY that it needs to be run off a cliff.

LMAO!!!

The 2015 f150 is ugly! The Atlas with the high bed sides and super dooty grille is for ford girly men that feel the need to compensate for something.

The 2015 F150 will probably offer DOUBLE girly man steps just to get to the bed. Now watch all the ford girly men respond with anger because I said the 2015 f150 was for ford girly men who have to compensate for something. LMAO

@Bob, you cry about getting beat up verbally, then pick fights! If you live by the sword, you will perish by the sword.

@ Alex

I'm just posting to remind you that this is a GM post and Bob can say whater he wants to say. GM has not died. Ford died. Ford Ranger died and Ford LOSES AGAIN because it does NOT HAVE A COMPETITOR IN THE SMALL TRUCK SEGMENT in the US!!!!!!

Bob, it is titled "2013 L.A. Auto Show Highlights." If you interpret that as "GM Post," that is your prerogative.

Michigan Bob,

Prove that you own a pickup truck. It looks like you are just a Govn't Motors shill who never talks about his truck and doesn't even own a truck. Show us or tell us what truck you own or are you just a Govern't Motors shill?

Posted by: DL | Nov 25, 2013 7:34:27 PM


FYI, Michigan Bob has a variety of vehicles in his fleet, including many pickups. He has a large garage on his 500 acre estate. I estimate the garage is at least 10,000 or more sq ft.



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