In lieu of the fact that neither the Titan or the Frontier are selling worth a darn,Nissan needs to man up with some all new iron,or go back home.What is the point of even teasing us with a picture of a 'global truck'? Either the Japanese seriously compete in our market by bring out all new models,or they will dry up completely and go away.

At best the new Nissan Frontier will be 4 years out.

2016 Titan new

2018 Frontier new

And the fangirls who aren't going to buy it, can't wait for it to get here. You'll be hearing from them shortly.

Lame go back to Japan and fool the goons there with you're out dated junk.

With the GM mid-size twins due out in the fall and the possibility of a new Frontier on the horizon, I hope this is the kick in the pants Toyota needs to give us a new Tacoma. The same could be said with regards to Ram and Ford re-entering the mid-size market as well. Ford is almost there with their "global" Ranger, if they ever decide to include the North American market. The more competition in the segment, the more we all win with regards to price, quality and innovative options no matter what your brand of choice is. Just look at the mid-size car market for an example of what a healthy competitive segment gets you for your money.

I'm going to continue to drive my 2002 F-150 SuperCrew (that just turned 70K on the odometer) until I see a bunch of mid-size options to choose from for my next new truck purchase. BTW, Despite currently driving an F-150, full-size trucks will NOT be any part of my next selection... they've grown too big to be practical for my needs. Give me a crew cab with a 6 foot bed, reasonable towing/payload (read as 6,000lbs/1200lbs) and 26-28 combined MPG with modern creature comforts and I’m sold.

I hope Nissan is going to pass on the JATCO 7 speed automatic, and use the ZF 8 speed automatic.
Stick it to Toyota & GM!

@Brian in NC

I'd be very inclined to agree with you if US consumers were spending money. And last week the government adjusted its First Quarter results for GDP to a negative number.

Nissan isn't missing out on much. Just ask the guys trying to sell Silverados. The new cars and trucks are so complex that
it takes longer to get them to the showroom and they cost more.

A soft economy makes it hard to be aggressive, especially when there are other global markets where growth is hot.

Nissan dropped a whopper of a hint on Instagram with a covered truck that could be the 2015 Nissan Frontier (2015 Nissan Navara in other markets). If you looks closely, you can make out a much improved nose and LED headlights and/or DRL. On Instagram, Nissan wrote:”There’s a special member of the Nissan family on the way. The overall package looks too small to be a Titan, and Nissan seemed anxious to beat General Motors to the punch when they reveal their Colorado/Canyon diesels. So, it’s possible that this truck could come with a small diesel. Its not a beer can, electical problem or Mostly Old Parts And Rust.

Nissan started taking orders for the 2015 Frontier in April, so this pic is not that.

A few years ago it was reported that Toyota pushed back the 2015 Taco to 2017/2-18 due to the economy. With what papa jim is reporting, one quarter of negative growth, we are half way to another recession again. It only takes 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth for it to be a recession.

Don't look for a bunch of mid-sizers to start entering the market during the Obama economy and Obama recession.

it amazes me on this site all of the "Japanese" or "jap" or anything unamerican comments coming from so many people on this website........... YOU SOUND LIKE FOOLS!

NEWS FLASH! Your favorite truck is no more american than the next! your either italian ram built in us canada or mexico with barely 50% us content and lord knows where the engineering comes from........
OR your Ford with 75% us content built in canada, mexico, or usa. lord knows where the engineering comes from........
OR your GM product with LESS than 50% usa content built in canada, mexico, or usa.......

Nissan has about the SAME usa parts content probably not engineered here but AT lease its built here......
Toyota's Tacoma and Tundra are engineered here and have 75% usa parts content and aside from 20% of Tacoma production the rest of Tacoma and 100% of Tundras are built in the USA........

Just because some big wigs corporate office is in one place or another doesnt mean jack..... I PROMISE you those big wigs at GM,Ford,and FCA dont give 2 sh**s about you. So stop defending them, you look foolish!

/\ so true...

I do think the next Navara, which I've read is due to be released at the end of this year is more a global truck than a US truck. These will come from the Thai factory first.

The D40 was a US biased design. I think it has cost Nissan sales globally and even in the US the Frontier didn't set the world on fire.

The current Navara is probably the worst off road ute we have out of the mainstream pickups. I really hope Nissan has resolved this.

A move to the small Cummins and a 8spd is a given, this will make it more desirable in the US and even Australia. Outside of those countries I don't think Cummins is as widely known.

I think the power and torque figures for the Cummins will be nearly identical to the VM 2.8 Colorado engine.

It will be roughly the size of the current Navara/Frontier, which seems to be the midsize norm.

If Nissan can package and design this truck well and it is a Ford Ranger/BT50/Amarok beater this will become a dominant vehicle in it's segment.

We can only hope that Nissan will up the ante as competition is great.

It seems interesting that this 'teaser' is in english and not Japanese. I'll admit that the video went a little quick to note RHD or LHD in the first pass, but several clips were of LHD models apparently right here in the US. Maybe, just maybe, they intend to surprise us with a new Frontier before WE expect it.

If they do, will it be small enough to re-create an old, now lost, market?

Well I must be the only one excited to find out. If I had to choose I'd take a Nissan truck over a Toyota any day. Been thinking about checking them out when I replace my 2008 Dakota.

@Chris - "we are half way to another recession again."

I thought that the USA was still in one?

@HEMI lol

How can you say lord knows where the engeneering in a "domestic truck" comes from i dont see it being profitable or advantageous for GM, Ford or Fiat to farm out their fullsize truck design outside the northamerican market that these trucks are sold, we know that the tundra was designed in Cali, titan in Ohio and would assume the other brands where developed in michigan where they all have test tracks etc. We know the Ford t6 ranger was designed in austrailia, and the escape was designed in germany as the Kuga, just like the prius and landcruserwhere designed in Japan. your comments just come accross as ignorant. the F150 and Tundra both have 75% parts content . but the f150 tied the year for the most american vehicle with the corvette stingray with an index score of 87.5 http://www.american.edu/kogod/autoindex/2014.cfm
That ajusts for other variables profits etc. The tundra and ridge line tied in 11th with a score of 78.5 in 22 the GM twins came in at 40% parts content but a score of 70 33rd place Ram 1500 66 precent american parts and ajusted score of 63 the titan came in 40th place .
So i guess your 66.66% right the Tundra is more american and has a better impact on the american econmy than a GM 1500 or a ram 1500, but its still trailling the f-series in terms of impact on the US per unit sold.

The Kogod Made in America Auto Index was assembled by Associate Professor Frank DuBois, an expert in global supply chain management, at American University's Kogod School of Business. Among other sources, the data was compiled from publicly-disclosed American Automobile Labeling Act (AALA) reports as of February 2014, and accounts for the following factors:

•Profit Margin: Where the automaker's global headquarters is located
•Labor: Where the car is assembled
•Research and Development
•Inventory, Capital, and Other Expenses: Location of assembly
•Engine and Transmission: Location of production
•Body, Interior, Chassis, Electrical, and Other: Location of production
•National Highway Traffic Safety Administration AALA "Domestic Content" Score
Note that some highly similar vehicle models that varied on the basis of trim lines or engine and transmission options were aggregated together for ease of comparison, resulting in 318 total vehicles indexed. As there were multiple tie scores, there are a total of 84 ranked positions

@ carilloskis
I think you'll find the Titan was design in San Diego, as is most NA and some global Nissan vehicles.

I think Diaz has an axe to grind with Ram so if anything, he is more concerned about kicking them in the nuts than with dealing with GM.

We most likely will see a face lift and Cummins for the Frontier before they unveil a totally new truck but then again..........

the Rambo's and anti-small truck Mafia say that I'm out to lunch.

@papa jim--I still feel the economy has not fully recovered and fear that it will get worse. True people are buying new vehicles but many of these are to replace older vehicles that were kept longer because of the financial meltdown in 2008. I wonder how much the low and no interest loans contributed to increased sales. Also how many sales of new vehicles went to aging baby boomers that are either retired or getting ready to retire. That is one reason we bought a new vehicle and traded in a midsize sedan for a compact CUV that will be a retirement vehicle.

I would like to see Nissan bring out a new Frontier. Either Nissan should get out of the truck market in NA or update their trucks. It would be good to see Nissan make a come back in the US truck market.

@Brian NC--Your 2002 F-150 Super Crew sounds like a nice truck with only 70k miles it has a lot of life left in it. If you can afford to keep it I would even if you buy a new midsize truck. I would like to see a new global Frontier that would maybe motivate Toyota to bring a new Tacoma out sooner. Would be good to see the midsize segment get revitalized.

@hemilol

You are the one who sounds like a fool, doesn't matter where the corporate office is? Do you not have any idea how finance and corporate taxes work in a global company? All that money spent on a Tacoma or Tundra doesn't magically stay at the plant bud, it all goes back to corporate (the home country that the company is based) and is divided up to be spread out through out the company. So while yes TFS, TRD, TMA, TMS and so forth have their own financial branches in their respective division they then send their financials, accounting books and so forth back to corporate (in Japan) to help further plan, budget and forecast what divisions are needing what money going forward and is allocated as such. If Toyota wants to do a Hybrid for India they will allocate more funds the division that is handling that area of design, research, ect (which will include profits from the Tacoma/Tundra US sales). None of that money from the Tacoma goes straight back in the US. I know we have given you this lesson before, stop belching out incorrect information to try and shine some positive light on Toyota. They are a Foreign manufacturer.

almost looks like a silhouette of a giant chevy bowtie on the front of that pickup

Nissan always tried to cross a car with a pickup, its girly !

The Current Navara is based on the Titan unlike the Frontier in the US. It would be very interesting to see what powers it.

Lou, You could call it a recession now because the recovery has been terribly slow. But recessions are generally defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth as measured by GDP.

One more quarter like this and we’re officially back to RECESSION.

That said, I expect the media to find a new definition very soon, that will be anything but what we are in.

The Left were calling it a recession when Bush had GDP that was still positive but dropped from the previous month (example 2.8% to say 2.1%). They'll spin it.

@Tyler - the biggest expenditure or a company is manufacturing. The biggest aid to an economy is where the plant is located.

If your whole profits leaving the country logic actually made sense China would not be as rich as it is. They are wealthy due to manufacturing on their own soil.

Your theory about disbursing money to divisions is correct BUT lets look at Ford's car lineup - all of them excluding the Mustang were designed, engineered and initially built in Europe.
Ford's Transit line also designed, engineered and first built in Europe.

Chrysler??????? the new company name is FCA. That stands for Fiat Chrysler.
Head Office Netherlands
Tax Centre England
Stock exchange NYC

GM -
Ever hear of Holden? Guess what platform the Camaro sits upon.
Vauxhall - they underpin other GM cars.

Sounds like you don't understand Multinational corporations either.

@Robert Ryan

The Nissan Frontier is based on the same chassis as the Titan, just smaller and lighter...but gets the same crappy mileage. I don't know how the Navara does in the fuel economy department as it has different engines.

Compact, Mark? If you want a compact truck, get a Nissan NV200. LOL

"...logic actually made sense China would not be as rich as it is."

@Lou_BC

Let me add something to that:

China is not so much a rich, or wealthy country--China is a very fast-growing economy and their people have a future. Their growth has been fairly steady and dependable for about 15 years.

During that same period American economic policy has been penalizing investors, with predictable results. Nobody wants to build or invest in a place where their hard work gets punished.

The US has far more accumulated wealth than China, but no one is building new capacity in the US today, while China's big city skyline is covered with construction cranes.

Investors are all the same in one crucial respect: They are using their capital today, to purchase future income streams tomorrow--or ten years from now.

Just to be clear, when I saw "investor" I don't mean the Warren Buffett's of the world. Instead I'm talking about people trying to buy homes, or to save for retirement.

Canada, Mexico, Italy, China, India, Russia? It doesn't make much difference because the US has stopped doing the things that built America's once-robust middle class.

Under these conditions it's like musical chairs--the average investor is praying that he can find a seat when the music stops.

@tyler

And the right wing doesn't spin the "facts"? Get real

@papa jim - correct. At the current rate of economic growth there are economists predicting the USA will move to 4th place in economic might behind China, Japan, and India and most likely in that order.

@Liam,
Either the 2.5 or 3 litre diesels get some good mpg, not the V6 Petrol engine though.
The payloads are considerably enhanced in the Navara by tougher suspension parts. So payloads are as good and better than Titan, but without a rough jiggly ride empty.

It will be unveiled in Thailand on 11th of this month. What i've just heard about it is there are 2 choices of power ratings, 190 and 163, from a 2.5 turbo diesel. It will recieve a 7 speed auto.

Global = everywhere on the globe but north America.
I would buy one of the existing nissans in a heartbeat if they would just improve the fuel economy. I dont care one iota about the body style. Im going to drive it not insert my dingdong and make love to it.

@LouBC

It's unfortunate, and did not have to end that way.

There is big investor interest, but no one is ready to take risks on plant capacity or processing facilities, the most common magnets for capital in the world today.

Instead, American markets for equity are finding new highs in dollar terms. The Dow, S&P and rest are full of hot little companies that really don't look very good on paper, but have high stock prices.

Go figure. The companies you'd want to own are actually cheap today.

House of cards.

@papa jim - automation and offshoring has really hit the middle class. Most are becoming working poor. It is sad.

I read a story about a local media celebrity from Detroit who golfed 18 holes on camera through Detroit to show how desolate the place has become.

@papa jim and Lou
Here's an article describing what I've been talking about regarding manufacturing.

It's quite a good read.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/kohler-central-banks-rage-against-the-machine/5501714

@Papa Jim,
I agree that the recovery from the recession has been slow, but the economy is definitely rebounding. The poor and middle class are struggling and the top 10% can’t buy yachts, private planes and exotic supercars fast enough (go figure). One thing that has definitely impacted the GDP in the first quarter of 2014 was the extra brutal winter that battered much of North America. Millions of people couldn’t get to work, let alone go out to spend their hard earned money. Even the bean counters have been listing the recent winter as a major factor in the negative 1st quarter GDP numbers. Another sign of the recovery is steady increase in home values… In the Charlotte metro area, home prices have been climbing for the last 24 months straight as developers struggle to buy land fast enough for the new construction demand. We’ll get there…. It’s just going to be at a slow pace for most of us.

@Jeff S.,
Yes, my 2002 F-150 SuperCrew with only 70K on the odometer is a great truck with lots of life still left in it. The only complaint I’ve had with it in the 12 ½ years I’ve owned it is the thirsty 5.4 liter V8. Seeing that I only have a 1.5 mile commute to work and live in a very mild climate, I usually throw a leg over one of my motorcycles to get there. It gets used on rainy days, when I take my kids to school, picking up mulch, or going camping, paddling or mountain biking. I’m planning on driving it at least another 2-3 more years before I look for a replacement. By then, I’m hoping to have more choices in a capable, yet fuel efficient mid-size truck with modern creature comforts.

All,
For those of you who list the many reasons why companies move manufacturing outside of the US. One factor is the skills and knowledge of the local workforce.... I work for large German company in Charlotte, NC that manufacturers power generation equipment for power utilities… We’ve hired over 700 employees in the last 3 years and would hire more if we could find skilled workers. We currently have 20-30 openings for welders, machinist and assemblers but can’t find people qualified to fill the open positions. This is a common problem for many American high tech manufacturing facilities, and one of the many factors for looking outside of the US.

@Brian in NC

Appreciated hearing your comments, Brian. Big I'll disagree on a key point.

Admittedly there are a few industries where a skills deficit exists among the available labor supply, but there's a much bigger reason for firms moving jobs offshore--there is no big downside to it.

Building capacity in the US requires great expense. To bring a new plant online, you spend years fighting lawsuits, environmental regulators, OSHA and political cronies hoping to block your plan in order to advance the plans of some better connected guy.

Building capacity here offers investors an incremental return on investment, and a lot of downside risk. Building in a place like Russia, India, Brazil or southeast Asia almost guarantees double digit growth possibilities for years to come.

There are downsides but they are few, they're manageable and nowhere near as bad as companies in the UK, US or the Middle East seem to experience.

America's labor problems involve illiteracy, health concerns, workforce aging, on the job drug abuse and high costs per hour.

If I had a big company and was building power generation equipment, someplace like the far east would be a much more attractive opportunity than the US.

Of course because then you can pay your workers slave wages to work in substandard unsafe conditions and make a lot more profit. Makes perfect sense to me then again I am a greedy pig myself.

@Maxx Would you want to invest hundreds of millions into a situation that does NOT offer a good return on investment?

What's greedy about that?

Photo of the New Navara. It is an evolution of the previous model. It now has a Cummins cheaper than the Renault engine but similar power.
http://s10.postimg.org/3s439ityd/image.jpg

100k miles on my 4 year old Nissan Frontier. Have done less than $500 of non-maintenance repairs. The only compact truck I could get with a manual transmission (the toyota was 6k more). I'm definitely looking forward to the next one. Oh, and to the naysayers, Nissan Frontier has only sold less than 50k units twice in the last 15 years. Not bad for a "dead-end market."

If they're not going to give us a frontier we can afford to fill up and actually drive maybe they can at least bring back the superchargers so we can have a little fun on our journey to the poor house.

PJ, what's greedy about maximizing roi while your workers can't afford to eat and and chopping off body parts and dying in fires in your dangerous factory? Gee, I don't know. I can't seem to think of a single reason but like I said im a greedy pig oink oink.

@brian NC
I do hope you can get the pickup you want down the track.

I'm hoping this next Navara/Frontier is going to be better than the Amarok, Ranger and BT50.

This will increase competition.

It will be worth the wait, our new midsizers are everything a full size is, but smaller.

The US sort of is the same as how we in Australia started to receive the small diesel pickups.

I think it was GM with the Luv that had the first diesel here, then it was quickly followed by Nissan and Toyota!

It took around 6 years before the diesels really started catching on. But we didn't have the new turbo, CRDs either.

A Navara/Frontier with the little Cummins would be really nice to own.

Imagine one of those Cummins badges on the mudguards, driving around and getting over 30mpg at 70mph.

Funny how things change but remain the same.

@Brian NC--Does sound like a good plan. You have an even shorter commute than I do to the bus stop (3 miles). Most of the time I drive my 99 S-10 extend cab with a 2.2 4 cylinder with a 5 speed which I have had since new and have 102k miles. It runs and looks like new and makes a perfect vehicle for hauling things. I kept it after buying my Isuzu 6 years ago. I too like Big Al hope you find what you want in a midsize truck. Nissan has always made a good truck, but I would like to see a global version for the Frontier because it would be a better and more capable truck. I hope the new Colorado/Canyon is much better as well--the midsize truck market needs an infusion of newer and improved products. The Tacoma and the Frontier are good trucks but they could be much better.

@Jeff S
As of late it appears Toyota might lose it's place on the mantle in Australia. The global Ranger is catching up very quickly. If you add the BT50 sister to the Ranger sales they are probably eclipsing the Hilux.

If Nissan can bring out the new Navara before Toyota they might increase their hold on the market as well. This doesn't bode well for Toyota who are so confident that the Hilux is unbeatable. Toyota have had this attitude now for 25 years.

Being to smug can sometimes work against you I suppose.

About a month ago we changed all or our fleet of Hiluxes at work for Rangers.

It's good that we have them, but they are diesel which is no good for how we use them. The 2.5 gasoline Rangers would have been a better choice as most are driven between 1/2 to 1 kilometer at a time. This will kill the diesel engine and use fuel inefficiently.

But, I don't write the contracts.

The biggest issue I have with them are the 6spd automatic transmissions, what a dog of engineering they are.

Ok MaXx

Just to be clear.

In your own saving, spending and investing you always choose the less profitable choice, right?

Is that what you're saying?

How someone else invests his own money or WHERE he invests it is none of mine business...or yours.

@Big Al from Oz,
Looking at the new Hilux, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Fiat? Ford may have its work cut out.

@Big Al--That is why I don't have a diesel because most of my trips are a couple of miles. Diesels need to be driven for a longer time for them to warm up and operate efficiently. A gas V-8 also needs to be driven more for it to run properly and efficiently. I have had many V-8s in the past and they ran much better if they were driven on longer trips more frequently. I do agree that diesels should be an option on trucks for those who need them and want them. My handyman and my landscaper both use their trucks and need the capabilities of a diesel. That is also true for the size of a truck--some need the size of a larger truck. I would not need or use the full capacity of a larger truck, but I do use my midsize. If I needed a full size then I would get one.

@Robert Ryan
I say some spy photos of the next Triton yesterday.

It appears to be larger than the current model.

It was to well covered to get a good idea of it's shape.

I don't know what diesel they will run with EuroVI around the corner.

Its actually the small hardbody truck they are bringing back. based off the d300 chassis currently built in Mexico as a utility truck. They are re vamping the frame to allow for a bed and extended cab version. it looks good and is going to be a much lower price point. didnt hear ir from me...