What do you get if you by this 5,000,000th truck?

Congrats to Ford.

I'm not sure when they changed but those PSD side badges are a bit over the top.

$64,950......ouch........add sales tax, finance costs, tag and title, and you're pushing $75K for that pickup truck.

God bless the future owner of this expensive "stuff hauler."

$64,950......ouch........add sales tax, finance costs, tag and title, and you're pushing $75K for that pickup truck.

God bless the future owner of this expensive "stuff hauler."

Posted by: greenrover | Oct 9, 2014 11:19:58 AM

Still miss those 25 cent hamburgers too huh?

Take 18K off that price and you have your out the door price.

I'd love to know what the first Super Duty had. 5.4? 6.8? 7.3? and all the other configurations.

"I'd love to know what the first Super Duty had. 5.4? 6.8? 7.3? and all the other configurations."

The first Super Duty was probably built in 1998 and was a regular cab XL with vinyl seats, AM/FM radio, snow plow prep package, 5.4L (300hp), 4-speed manual. a landscaper bought it and beat the heck out of it for the next 12 years.

It demonstrates how pickups have changed in the last 15-20 years.

The guy who buys this one will most likely never put more than his kids toys in the back and drive it to his insurance broker job at the local corporate center.

4 speed manual? wow! Call me crazy, but I'd like to see simplified versions of the next Super Duty, for those who need a very capable truck, but don't need all the gizmos. The 5.4 had only 260 HP / 350 lb-ft for the 1999 model.

I'm an information technology professional in my mid 30s with a family; work and live in the Boston, MA area and I drive a heavy duty pickup daily. You don't have to swing a hammer for a living to drive a pickup truck. I have a camper (5th wheel) and a boat, sure the boat can be towed by a larger SUV but my camper can't. So the idea that a vehicle purchase should be based on what you do for work is stupid at best. Perhaps the insurance broker has a Grady White as well… that type of thinking exists in other countries, shouldn't in the US.

What do you get if you by this 5,000,000th truck?

@Andy

you better get some oven mitts...

Sean, you missed my point. My comment doesn't relate to what an individual does for a living, it pertains to usage. You don't use your HD like someone who NEEDS a truck every day. You occasionally use it to tow you trailer & boat.
That is a big difference between 20 years ago and today. Manufacturers have adjusted to this market desire, trucks don't ride like "trucks" anymore. Don't feel guilty, God Bless Ya! and the USA!

In the name of fuel economy, Ford has equipped the F-150 2.7—and only the 2.7—with auto start/stop. It disables itself during towing or four-wheel-drive operation, and at the very least requires upgraded main bearings (the journals drain every time the engine shuts down, so every red light is like a cold start).

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Considering all engines wear the most at start up this does not look so great. Sorry but you can keep these new Fords.

What else does Ford skimp out on in their trucks?

so us people that occasionally need to tow fifth wheels should not buy one? I'm confused

http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww331/Warwagon_photos/A06CAC48-8159-465F-9CFD-586ACD3EA247.jpg

@Big Horn

"Considering all engines wear the most at start up this does not look so great."

You post stuff like this and turn to say my credibility is in question?

No, most engine wear comes from COLD starts. This is because the oil is cold and too thick to properly lube the engine. Even 0w grade (the "w" means winter or colder temperatures, NOT weight), the oil is still too thick. Putting products like Lucas which thickens the oil makes it worse. It takes about 10-15 minutes for you engine oil to reach optimal temp depending on the outside temperature and the grade of the oil. Once the oil is already at operating temp, then stopping and starting it up again even minutes later have no significant effect on wear.

@ Rammed By Little Horn 1500 You better not buy the useless 3.6L Tickastar HFE Ram 1500 with start/stop tech then! :0 !

@Rammed By Little Horn 1500 Oh I got one question for you I been wanting to ask. How come you wasn't on the jeep story tell us that a midsize jeep truck won't sell or work. That there is no market for midsize trucks, like you where doing on the Colorado/Canyon stories. Yeah wait I forgot that you are a crazy FCA fanboi. you can say anything bad bout Chrysler.

Is it 5 o'clock yet? I ready to get out of work.

Still have my 99 (10/98 built date) XLT V-10 and just clicked 200K on it. Been a great truck, avg 12-13mpg though but it's never failed me. :) Couple coil packs and some WARN premiums and your golden for the next 16 years. To bad the cab corner is missing, dam salt.

Congrats to FORD and the customers!! That is really an awesome accomplishment.

I'd buy it no problem...if it were here local to me!!

All 1
Talking about motor oil is a touchy subject that causes fights.
I would suggest unless you are a Chemist not to talk about it.

I like the gas Ford Super Duty, nothing against it, but the diesels are J-U-N-K

and,, I didn't know the 2015 F-150 with the 2.7 EB had the stop-start feature! Nooooo! I don't like that cause how about a below 0 cold winter morning running the heater to warm up then you hit 10 red lights?

Is that on all F-150's with the 2.7?
Can you get one without it?
Is there an on-off switch for it?
Can Ford program it out?

@Mike
Of the 500 Superdutys sold In Australia, 20% are just for driving around, 80% for towing caravans

@Ram Big Horn 1500 - FCA is going to stop/start technology as well.

or does the J!had overlook that kind of stuff when bombing the opposition's products on a thread?

FCA is also going to turbos. From the Chrysler fuel economy sucks article that Hemi V8 posted....

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2014/10/chrysler-anchors-mpg-ratings

@Tom3, the 2.7 start stop feature can be deactivated. I think TFL truck mentioned that

@tom#3

"Talking about motor oil is a touchy subject that causes fights.
I would suggest unless you are a Chemist not to talk about it."

Tom,

Talking about trucks is a big mans subject that causes fights.
I would suggest unless you have any clue on how an engine operates, a turbo spins, or even something simple as how gears multiply torque then not to butt in the conversation with your uneducated guess on how you think these things work.

So sit back with your "I'm too sexy for my truck" attitude and let the big boys that actually know what they are talking about have these convos, mmmkay.

Although, my wife is a molecular biologist/chemist in the pharmaceutical field. Does that count?

Or even better, let me get my uncle who works at Southwest Research (http://www.swri.org/ ) here in San Antonio who actually tests engine oil use for many major oil companies. Would bringing him in here to talk to you about oil make you feel better?'

Geezuz man, for a guy who admits he doesn't know much about vehicles, you sure do act like you are the resident internet genius of all things auto telling people what you think is good and bad.

YAY - 5,000,000 Hunks of Iron!

They should have picked a better color!

and a story posted today 10/9/14 on truck market in general.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autosperformance/15-extremes-of-the-truck-world/ss-BB8bGxE#image=1

@All1 & Johnny Dimwit

(the journals drain every time the engine shuts down, so every red light is like a cold start).

Congrats to FORD and the customers!! That is really an awesome accomplishment.

I'd buy it no problem...if it were here local to me!!

Posted by: biz4two | Oct 9, 2014 4:41:41 PM

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Sure you would, you can order the very same truck so go put in your order and arrange your financing for 70,000 dollars and one just like it is all yours.

We won't hold our breath.

Start Stop on the 2.7 Ford deactivates if towing or in four wheel drive. Out side of that it is on. There is no way that the EPA would certify the MPG using the start stop feature for the MPG average if the customer can turn it off. In that case Ford would have to certify the truck with it turned off and Ford needs all the MPG they get just like GM and Chrysler.

Rammed By Little Horn 1500 The Ram 1500 HFE 3.6L does the same thing DURRRRRRRRRRRR DUHHHHHHH!

The price for 5 m you win a real pickup,,you have the chance to drive a gmc:))

The 2.7-liter engine, code-named “Nano,” uses a compacted graphite iron block for added durability. (Why use iron in an aluminum truck? Read our deep-dive on the block to find out.) An automatic engine stop-start system is standard, although it is automatically deactivated in four-wheel-drive mode or while towing. Ford hasn’t released fuel-economy figures yet.

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@Johnny Dimwit

I could care less because I will not be buying the start stop version.

Rammed By Little Horn 1500 Yeah so who says everyone going to buy the 2.7L Eco Boost? You're a fail, if you think start/stop is so bad you would of told everyone about the HFE Ram that does the same! DURRRRRRRRRRRR!

Rammed By Little Horn 1500 You still havn't been on the Jeep midsize truck story yet. So you can tell everyone how midsize trucks won't sell! Yeah wait I forgot again you're nothing but a FCA fanboi!

A bunch more are getting start stop in a couple years. About 10 years from now there won't be a new vehicle that doesn't have start stop.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2014/10/07/autos-stop-start-driver-resistance/16893597/

@ Ram big horn... others. In regards to "start/stop" and EPA. Doesn't cars like Prius do start/stop?
If so how does EPA ratings process work? They've been around awhile.

@Big Horn

"Start Stop on the 2.7 Ford deactivates if towing or in four wheel drive."

And how does it know you are towing? Maybe pressing that little button that says tow/haul.

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"I could care less because I will not be buying the start stop version."

And you wouldn't be buying it in the Ford since you are so in love with Ram so why do you care about that?

I don't understand why people come here to debate without bothering to inform themselves. It just goes to show people don't read articles, they jump right to the comments section.

Just within the last few weeks Mark Williams posted an article that clearly states the stop/start functionality can be disabled. In other words, if you don't like it, then you just disable it.

I don't understand what is so hard to figure out about that. There isn't anything to debate. I could understand if it cannot be disabled, but then again, how many people driving hybrids do you see complaining that the engine shuts off?

How many people driving hybrids do you see complaining that the engine shuts off? Posted by: HEMI MONSTER | Oct 9, 2014 8:13:13 PM

None cause 98% of them don't know jack about engines, or cars/trucks to start with. I dare you to walk up to random people and ask them how to change a tire or oil. LOL The faces they'll make is like you're asking them to build a spaceship out of 2 sticks and one stone.

Not everyone is here to inform themselves. There are a few viral marketers that are here to spin negative info, spin something good as bad if its the competition, mislead, lie, change topics, etc.

@johnny doe
That is quite a broad generalization. Why do people buy hybrids? Usually it is due to an awareness of the FE benefits. People aren't going to buy a car that they know nothing about.

Everyone I know who owns a hybrid has a general idea of how it works. This includes knowing that the engine shuts off.

It doesn't take a genius to realize an engine isn't running. Like I said, it is really a non-issue. Unless it shuts the A/C or something, then what does it matter. In the case of the F150, since it can be disabled, I don't consider the issue of the A/C shutting off as a deal breaker.

People aren't going to buy a car that they know nothing about. Posted by: HEMI MONSTER | Oct 9, 2014 8:48:03 PM

Lots of people buy cars/trucks that they know nothing about. Case in point, all the people buying Ram 1500s and overloading them.

Mark Williams must the only one that has found out how to disable the start stop in normal driving on the 2.7 Ford because all the reviews from other sites say the same thing and that is the start stop automatically disables when towing and in four wheel drive mode. None of them state that you can switch it off manually.

As for how it disables when towing that could be when you plug in a trailer harness the computer then knows you are towing and automatically disables the start stop.

Oh snap on the R** 1500.
4 fat dudes or ladies, add one six pack of PBR and you have an overload situation.

Or maybe it uses the tow haul button to disable the start stop in which case that defeats fuel economy purposes as tow haul mode holds the transmission in each gear longer. In normal driving that becomes a pain so if that is how Mark Williams found to shut off start stop then he is completely mistaking that as an on off switch for the start stop.

This is right from Corporate Ford:

Auto Start-Stop technology helps save fuel. Unlike start-stop solutions in other vehicles, this technology – specially tuned for truck customers – shuts off the engine to save fuel when the vehicle is stopped, except when towing or in four-wheel drive. The engine restarts in milliseconds when the brake is released.

http://corporate.ford.com/news-center/press-releases-detail/20140113-all-new-ford-f-150-redefines-full-size-trucks

@Big Horn

Why do you care? You told johnny you didn't care Ram's start/stop 3.6L because you were not going to buy, and you definitely not going to buy anything Ford so why do you care and keep talking about it?

Just trying to get your point is all. Especially since everything you say about stop/start Ford's 2.7L can also be said about Ram's stop/start 3.6L.