2017 Ford Super Duty: Video Reveal

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Curious about the Ford reveal of the 2017 Super Duty at the 2015 State Fair of Texas in Dallas? We were sitting in the stands under the blazing sun for the event, which mimicked an ESPN-style NFL pregame show. For the most part, it came off without a hitch. We especially liked the ESPN "Sport Science" piece Ford designed to show how much weight the new frame can support. Take a look at Ford's video below.

The trucks look amazing, and some of the Ford engineers told us the level of improvement between this new Super Duty and the one it replaces is greater than the level of improvement between the 2015 F-150 and the previous-generation F-150. From our perspective and experience, this could be the best news to come out of the new Super Duty's world debut.

To read more about the all-new 2017 Ford Super Duty, click below: 

2017 Super Duty: Introduction

2017 Super Duty: Styling and Interior

2017 Super Duty: Powertrain and Chassis

2017 Super Duty: Towing and Technology

 

Cars.com photo by Evan Sears

 

Comments

Ok, the Super Duty is towing a little boat and it's still sagging in the rear! No thanks.

It's time for me to let the Duramax go and switch to Power Stroke

My Duramax blew a head gasket. Time to switch to a Power stroke.

@Pete: just be patient Pete, there are upgrades to the Duramax and they are just around the corner. The D-max will reign for another decade.

So they are finally going to use a fully boxed frame?? Only 6 years late.

Where are all the Ford fan boys that said a fully boxed frame was no good?? hmmm

Beautiful, capable truck. One important omission in my eyes -fuel efficiency. Hp numbers are great, how about working on mpg's.

@Anything, it wasn't the Ford guys who said that. It was the Toyota guys (like Oxi), who used the Super Duty as an example to defend the Tundra's floppy frame.

@Anything, it wasn't the Ford guys who said that. It was the Toyota guys (like Oxi), who used the Super Duty as an example to defend the Tundra's floppy frame.

@Anything, it wasn't the Ford guys who said that. It was the Toyota guys (like Oxi), who used the Super Duty as an example to defend the Tundra's floppy frame.

I love the look of the 2017 SD Tow Truck the best. I could vision alot of Chevy & Ram pickup's on the hook. LOL

Here's an interesting article. It's a pity that PUTC doesn't look at other major pickup markets.

The number of new pickups we get is quite good, especially this year.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/australia-youre-turning-into-the-usa-we-simply-cant-buy-enough-utes/story-fnkgdhrc-1227545188519

Whoever designed that front end should be fired!

That is the MSRP. It will be interesting to see how large discounting will be............and the change to Ford's bottom line.

The MSRP isn't a good indicator of the cost of a truck. The transaction costs are.

People are treating my comment as if no F Series will be sold. This will not be the case. I do think there will be a drop in Ford sales to the point where Ford might lose it's No. 1 spot.

Also, did Ford look at the profitability of the F Series using current numbers? In the auto industry a drop in sales of several percent can have a significant impact on profits.

Remember Nissan and Toyota will are releasing HD alternatives as well. These will be cheaper than Big 3 HDs. This will put pressure on the trucks as well.

I do believe the Colorado will place some pressure on the V6 full size buyer as well. A person buying a V6 isn't looking for a superior tow vehicle, but some utility.

The new Navara/Frontier is supposed to be the next benchmark in the smaller trucks. If it is better than the Colorado the consumer might start to have some choice. Do I buy a Impala size vehicle or a Camry. As pickups become more like a SUV/CUV the traditional view of a pickup will alter, like cars. Does everyone drive around in the biggest car? No. Because not many want or need the capability of a larger car.

Even as poor as some state the Ram is concerning it's payload, etc, they are selling. So it seems a pickup isn't just about payload.

Working pickups would probably be around 20% of all pickup sales. I do realise 1/2 are bought for business, but out of them how many are not business vehicles, but a tax write off.

I really do think the US pickup market is going to change. The numbers that we see now by the manufactures will alter quite a bit over the next few years.

Ford is under pressure. The aluminium F Series will be a nice truck, but there will be more pickups released in the near future that might be more attractive to purchase.

It will come down more to cost vs expectations. How many people worry about the construction of a ladder? Not many. So just because the pickup is aluminium will not have as significant an impact as some on this site allude to. Yes, the truck is different. But is what it does that much different?

My philosophy is similar to a diesel. A diesel is significantly more different in a pickup. As it character is changed. Aluminium is not different than having a vinyl or carpet floor mat.

Ford has spent a lot of money on a gamble. Ford will not lose, but they will drop a wrung or two.

Also, where are Ford's FE figures for the F-150. Will the F-150s with the 2.7 EcoBoost released to the public have the same tune as the press release trucks?

Somehow I don't think Ford is transparent enough with this information. Wasn't the use of aluminium due to FE?

I like the look of the XL model. The lack of chrome makes it significantly cluttered.

If you read the article posted by Al the navara isnt much of a benchmark if it strugles with a load compared to other models. These are trucks and with what i know ford superduty will out plow just about anything short of a international 4300 with a dt466... That being said does any aussie even really know why the size of our trucks is so large? it isnt to tow better! Its so you can hang a huge plow off the front and make more money moving snow! No other reason for it! they are designed to plow, push and climb over tall ice banks. The front plastic that hangs below the bumper is sliced right off 99% of these trucks right after or during the purchase. Putting a 9.5ft stainless steel vplow or Polyurethane, sometimes painted steel is common. smaller plows arent as common but now the new thing is to buy a blizzard wideout that extends to 11ft+ when in full function. Put snow in front of that and your pushing thousands of pounds in seconds. Our trucks are built to handle this for years and years of forward and reverse pushing. Not only that but they can travel @ 80mph no problem in 4 wheel drive with this huge plow on the front right down the thruway. These trucks are designed to handle things much differently and they do a fine job. these little trucks are what i use to pick up parts and tow small trailers in confined city areas that have lack of width. i would never attempt to plow snow like what we encountered last season with a tiny truck it would be stuck in no time with a hung plow frame.. different worlds we live in totally!

The emblem on the grille is only 4 feet x 4 feet !

UGLY Grille and really,really UGLY headlights ! Besides that,doesnt really look much different than the current Ford 250/350 trucks.

I think the New super duty is a huge improvement over the ugliest truck on the market which is the current super duty. It's long over due now Ford fans can enjoy the benefits of a fully boxed frame like their cross town rivals already have. Now maybe Ford can get j2807 certified now that they have beefed up the frame and brakes.

Ok, I'll give 'em credit... They finally got rid of that fake 'Big Rig' look in the grill. The problem is, what they did isn't all that much better as now a head-on view says, "Hey! I'm a brick! Look at my flat, square-edged nose!" At least the models with less chrome don't look quite as harsh and stark.

The full loaded f450 crew cab 4x4 is j2807 certified at 10 lbs less then 2wd standard cab stripped down dually ram 3500 that nobody buys.

I'm surprise there is no mention of the Titan xd coming in at 12k tow capacity as they are at the Texas state fair.... That isn't even up to the class leading capacities of the f150.

Titan XD could be a day late and dollar short

So, after doing a lot of research on diesel vs gas 3/4 ton models, I've come to the conclusion that Nissan waited too long. The 12,000lbs tow rating has already been hit by the eco boost and GM 6.2 in half ton models. That crossover thing isn't gonna workout if the truck is as big as it looks. The way they portray other 3/4 models is a little slanted, too. My f250 does have a longer hood, which makes it harder to park, but it's on road manners aren't that much worse than my pro4x, if at all. It may all come down to pricing, but I don't see many diesel owners switching. For one, no one knows that nissan builds a full size truck, even after 11 years. For two, nissan isn't modest about their sticker prices. A lot of people don't even wait to talk to a dealer if the sticker price is retarded. I've already seen a 46k pro4x sticker price, so it's safe to assume the XD pro4x will be into the high 50's, at least. I suspect some into the 60's. That's just not going to work. And again, if the truck is as big as it looks, that Cummins is going to be underpowered. The current 6.7 has been criticized for being underpowered at 350hp/800 torque. Had nissan presented this truck, 5 years ago, maybe a good starting point. Now, they're going to have to give them away. And we all know how much they're willing to put into marketing. The truck is supposed to release soon and I haven't seen a commercial or heard a radio add. Add to that, the Tundra will get the same engine and that spells death of the XD, hypothetically.

Ram needs that major update in 2020 sooner than later. Maybe in 2019 (2020 MY) Hegbloom and Ram will put the max tow ratings on a crewcab instead of a single cab cheapskate model that nobody buys.

That isn't even up to the class leading capacities of the f150.


Posted by: Scott | Sep 26, 2015 5:10:19 PM

The Devil is in the details. lol

"Note: For high altitude operation, reduce the gross combined weight by 2% per 1000 ft. (305 m) starting at the 1000 ft. (305 m) elevation point."

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/09/should-your-pickup-tow-less-at-altitude.html#more

Ram needs that major update in 2020 sooner than later. Maybe in 2019 (2020 MY) Hegbloom and Ram will put the max tow ratings on a crewcab instead of a single cab cheapskate model that nobody buys.


Posted by: Jay L. | Sep 26, 2015 5:54:00 PM

Ram is the Class Leader. J2807 900 ft lbs Ford is still chasing the KING of BEASTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duwpOlBMG10

Don't worry the boss is coming soon dmax,,

KING of BEASTS Ram & Cummins have been the segment leader from the day 25 years ago they were available in the 1989 Dodge H.D. trucks. G.M. and Ford have been playing catch up ever since and continue today with 2 million engines and counting.

Now with 31,210 lbs of class leading towing across every truck with a 4:10 gear and H.O. Cummins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8y--fHpLXk

http://www.autotrends.org/2012/12/10/cummins-reaches-2-million-chrysler-engine-milestone/

http://youtu.be/8J5WSkokN1M

have that happen in a lifted one with a trailer and 70mph speed! Dual steering stabilizers have prevented mine from happening again but maybe it was loose front end parts since i have put 5 sets of ball joints and everything thing else in...

Chris Mann,
The Cummins Titan will have a 14 000lb tow capacity, a bit more than the aluminium Frod F-150.

Brandon D,
Funny!

We do have all of your HDs here in Australia. They are used as toys and not trucks. We use trucks as trucks, not utes and pickups.

The new coil sprung Navara has one of the lowest payloads of around 2 200 - 2 300lbs. Most of the other pickup move up towards the 3 000lb mark.

Plus as in the US most pickups here now transport air in the beds. So, bragging rights and all the other nonsense that I read on this site means little to 75% of pickup owners.

Nissan will also have a leaf sprung version of the Navara for work, if you need one.

As for ploughing snow. We don't have too much of that here.

KING of BEASTS Ram & Cummins have been the segment leader from the day 25 years ago they were available in the 1989 Dodge H.D. trucks. G.M. and Ford have been playing catch up ever since and continue today with 2 million engines and counting.

Now with 31,210 lbs of class leading towing across every truck with a 4:10 gear and H.O. Cummins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8y--fHpLXk

http://www.autotrends.org/2012/12/10/cummins-reaches-2-million-chrysler-engine-milestone/


Posted by: HEMI V8 | Sep 26, 2015 7:16:00 PM

Poor looser V8, Ford has sold almost or might be there now 1 million 6.7L diesels. 2 million diesels in 25 years is just plain sad. By the way only one Ram is able to tow that load. The short bus (you know the one you ride to school) dually. While ford is certified to tow 10 lbs under that with the long wheel base 4x4 4 door. Also with 19.5 tires for a much safer towing experience. If you knew anything about towing you would know a short wheel base truck is not the environment for heavy towing.

Nissan dealers are saying 12k tow capacity on the xd with 5 liter cummins. It's only 6 lug axles.

http://www.glendalenissan.com/clp-2016-nissan-titan-glendale-heights-il

Speaking of losers, " By the way only one Ram is able to tow that load. The short bus (you know the one you ride to school) dually. "

SEE IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND THE FOLLOWING?

Now with 31,210 lbs of class leading towing across every truck with a 4:10 gear and H.O. Cummins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8y--fHpLXk

REMEMBER TO RECYCLE THOSE BEER CANS. TODAYS CANS ARE TOMORROWS FORD TOUGH TRUCKS. LMAO!

Poor HEMI V8, please learn about GCVW before you start posting. I know your sucked into comercials but education is what you need.

Hemi V8. Quit spreading misinformation as you may get an 2016 ram 3500 owner sued for overloading there crew cab and they get in a wreck. There is only 1 Ram with 4:10 gears that get max tow of 31,210 and that is the regular cab, stripper, dually 2wd according to ram
http://www.ramtrucks.com/assets/towing_guide/pdf/2016_ram_3500_towing_charts.pdf

Don't believe Ram's commercials. I've seen them advertising max towing of 17,900 lbs with their Ram 1500. I have no idea where they came up with a number like that. I can't find any info to back it up. Completely misleading. But I guess when you're the underdog, you have to come up with something to make yourself look good. Quote, "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time". (It appears like HEMI V8 falls into the second category.)

Ever since 2011 when the Powerstroke beat the Duramax for the highest power and torque ratings, the GM guys have been saying, "Just wait, a new Duramax is almost here that will crush the Powerstroke". Guess what, hasn't happened yet. On the other hand, I don't think GM needs a new Duramax. The current version is doing just fine and they don't have to compete in the "I win because my number is higher than your number" game. GM guys, you have no reason to be ashamed of the current Duramax. It's still an impressive engine.

Hemi v8 or big al from oz or what ever name you are using in your post. To get 900 ft lbs it is only available on the 4:10 rearend. 3:73 and higher get the weak cummins. But max towing on a 4:10 900 ftlb cumiins is only available on the least option 2wd standard can dually.... A truck nobody buys. Ford leads the j2807 for crew cabs and 4x4 segment.

Ok, I was about to give the new frame some credit, until I looked at how they hooked up the lift cradle! Any type of frame could hold that amount of weight hooked up like that! All they did was have the upper cables attached directly above the lower ones on the frame, not to mention the cradle they had besides that! ( in red). What they needed to do to show us the real bending strength of the new frame was to hook the upper cables to the front points, and end point of the frame from the top, then hook up the lower cables to the very middle of the frame, then see how much weight the frame could really hold before bending! As is in the video, the way they had that lifting cradle hooked up at the top of the load, they should be able to go to the very limit of the crane!

My question is this: The 2017 Super Duty boxed frame is 24 X's stiffer than the current Super Duty frame. HOWEVER, when Chevy did that infamous frame twist test of the Super Duty and Silverado HD a few years ago, Chevy said their frame was 30 X's stiffer than the Ford frame! So, am I to believe the Silverado HD's frame is still 6 X's stiffer than the 2017 Super Duty frame?

Big Bob, mathematics isn't your forte, is it?

It seems the Ford guys have introduced their "HemiV8" personality to the site as usual.

I wonder when the Ford fans are going to create the ultimate Chev/GMC dude to pretend to debate and argue with.

Do you Ford fans have that little faith in Ford you need to create a Ram prop (HemiV8) to prove your point that Ford's are better?

Come on guys.

I will never ever buy a ford truck even there is nothing else left.
I rather build my own. The reason why, is because that video they made to lift all those trucks under frame is pure Ford customers brain capacity insult and you should be ashamed of yourself , if you support this brain washing POS.
Skip to the 9:33 and look how frame is supported and hold by crane from the bottom. They even putted extra spacing frame above this truck frame , so it won't collapse, so the force is pure vertical. It holds all those trucks by 2 brackets at each corner with just 2' distance between them. The design how they hooked everything together is, that middle part of the frame is not loaded by any torsion or bending force and wouldn't need to be there at all. They could cut it completely off and could use just 2' portions between 2 brackets at each corner.
I want to see to pull all those trucks by the middle frame installed brackets . It would't lift even one truck.
If you can eat this BS, you deserve to drive Ford and I have no respect for any of you.
I also want to hear , why that fully boxed frame is best after sliced bread now, when open C-frame was much better for some before.

@Sandman4x4
I have seen your post right now and you are the first smart person posting at this web site. I respect you.

Guess what I just saw today... A great, big ol' full-sized pickup truck pulling an itty, bitty, tiny utility trailer that was smaller in length, width and depth than the bed of the truck itself.

Now, what's that about using pickup trucks as utility vehicles here in the US? My wife and I just about died laughing right on the spot in our little, tiny Fiat 500 carrying more in the back than I'll bet that pickup has EVER carried in the bed!

You again Gomar? You just need to stay away.

@Crazytruck
No worries, I said I will stay away of Ford. Thank you for reminding me.

Nice to see Ford is 2 years ahead on their failures. This truck is of 2005 GM technology.

@HEMI V8,

RAM NEVER FORGETS...

Ram will show off its new Rebel and Limited trucks, while Chrysler will mark 90 years of design with vehicles such as the 1925 Chrysler sedan, 1955 Chrysler 300 and 1963 Chrysler Turbine.

#GUTSGLORYRAM

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/autos-latest-news/20150926-reporting-for-duty-ford-to-unveil-2017-super-duty-at-state-fair.ece

FCA US Offers Hot New Rides and Family Fun at the 2015 State Fair of Texas

DALLAS, Sept. 21, 2015 /PRNewswire/ --

Chrysler brand celebrates the 90th anniversary of the brand and the 60th anniversary of the new, award-winning 2015 Chrysler 300 — the "2015 Car of Texas"
Dodge shakes things up with the new, ultimate performance Challenger SRT Hellcat
FIAT brand expansion continues with the all-new 500X crossover featuring all-wheel drive
Jeep® Renegade struts its stuff as the most capable small SUV on the market
Ram Truck brand makes an impact with the new Ram Laramie Limited and Rebel models

FCA US LLC is bringing its latest models, state-of-the-art displays, and several unique interactive experiences to the State Fair of Texas, Sept. 25-Oct. 18.

"We will treat State Fair attendees to everything from the world's fastest muscle cars, to the most fuel-efficient pickup trucks, to seductive American sedans," said Mike Dragojevic, Director of the Southwest Business Center, FCA US. "The State Fair of Texas gives us a chance to demonstrate how our Chrysler, Jeep®, Dodge, Ram and FIAT vehicles uniquely answer the demands of Texans."

Chrysler Brand and the 'Car of Texas'
The Chrysler brand is marking significant anniversaries in 2015 — 90 years of the Chrysler brand and 60 years for the Chrysler 300. To commemorate these milestones, the Chrysler brand display will include the new 2015 Chrysler 300 — the reigning "Car of Texas" awarded by the Texas Auto Writers Association (TAWA). In addition, the "Mid-size Car of Texas," the Chrysler 200, and the original luxury minivan, the Chrysler Town & Country, will be displayed.

The new, award-winning 2015 Chrysler 300 takes the nameplate's style and sophistication to new levels. With its iconic proportions, this head-turning big, bold American sedan is highlighted by world-class quality and craftsmanship and best-in-class 31 mpg highway fuel economy, plus class-exclusive innovations that include a state-of-the-art TorqueFlite eight-speed transmission, now standard on every model, and the segment's most advanced all-wheel-drive system. The new Chrysler 300 puts boulevards and interstates on notice once again.

Ultimate Performance Machines From Dodge and SRT
The 707-horsepower Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat — the world's quickest, fastest and most powerful muscle car — will be on the State Fair show floor for the first time. And if that's not enough excitement from Dodge, the R/T Scat Pack model, with best-in-class 485 naturally aspirated horsepower and 475 lb.-ft. of torque — the most horsepower under $40,000 — also will be on display.

2016 Fiat 500X
The all-new 2016 Fiat 500X combines authentic Italian design and engaging driving dynamics, together with an advanced all-wheel-drive system, unmatched functionality, and a full array of safety, comfort and convenience features. With comfortable seating for five, world-class craftsmanship, and superior ride and handling, the Fiat 500X delivers driving excitement, technology, safety and functionality to the rapidly growing small-crossover segment.

2015 Jeep Renegade
The all-new 2015 Jeep Renegade expands the brand's vehicle lineup, entering the growing small sport-utility-vehicle segment, while staying true to the Jeep brand's adventurous lifestyle and 4x4 capability. The Renegade delivers a unique combination of best-in-class off-road capability, open-air freedom, a segment-first nine-speed automatic transmission that contributes to outstanding on-road and off-road driving dynamics, two fuel-efficient engines, and innovative safety and technology offerings.

2016 Ram Laramie Limited and Rebel
The 2016 Ram Laramie Limited, the benchmark in pickup truck opulence, offers an even higher level of refinement and attention to detail. The upgraded interior and exterior trim aligns with a long list of best-in-class titles under the Ram moniker, including fuel economy, payload, torque and towing capacity. The 2016 Ram Rebel brings a one-of-a-kind, off-road design to the full-size truck segment, sporting numerous off-road-ready features, including a suspension lift, 33-inch tires and a custom interior.

Free, Unique Experiences for State Fair Attendees
The FCA indoor and outdoor displays will feature a number of fun experiences for fair-goers with Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge, Ram and FIAT vehicles.

Shadow Family Decals: Visitors can pose with their family and friends, holding the brand logo of their choice, to receive a white vinyl silhouette decal to apply to their vehicle's back window
Fun Photo Op: This multi-branded green screen offers fair-goers a choice of vehicle scenes and props. The scene is superimposed onto the photo and then e-mailed to the participant as a keepsake or to post on social media
Dodge Viper Simulator Challenge: Similar to last year's Charger Challenge, this year the video game simulator features a bright yellow Dodge Viper. Participants can test their track time while "driving" an actual Viper staged in front of three panoramic video screens and featuring realistic sound effects. It is a real-life, behind-the-wheel experience without leaving the auto show floor.
Jeep Alley: A new touch-screen interactive featuring six screens and capacity for six participants to customize their choice of Jeep vehicle and choose a variety of options, including, color, wheels and decals. The Jeep team will email their creation to participants. (Note: this attraction will only run in October.)
Ram Truck Zone: The outdoor Ram Truck display includes Big Red — a photo opportunity with a preserved Longhorn steer — and a new mechanical bull ride that will be a "mechanical ram" instead. Guests who dare to ride the ram in the Ram Truck Zone will get to keep their rodeo "back number" as a souvenir.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fca-us-offers-hot-new-rides-and-family-fun-at-the-2015-state-fair-of-texas-300145917.html

2016 Ram Laramie Limited and Rebel
The 2016 Ram Laramie Limited, the benchmark in pickup truck opulence, offers an even higher level of refinement and attention to detail. The upgraded interior and exterior trim aligns with a long list of best-in-class titles under the Ram moniker, including fuel economy, payload, torque and towing capacity. The 2016 Ram Rebel brings a one-of-a-kind, off-road design to the full-size truck segment, sporting numerous off-road-ready features, including a suspension lift, 33-inch tires and a custom interior.



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