@scott really? Fiat has done amazing things for Chrysler. To have a ram truck without a rattle in Otis amazing and not to mention 0 trips to the dealer in the first 1.5 years is amazing. Beets every other brand I've had.

I'm all for recalls to get the product fixed right and protect the consumer, but 9 recalls for the 2014 Ram is getting out of control.

Garbage AGAIN!

Fix
It
Again
Tomorrow

john,
I agree with you that FCA has taken a down trodden brand and improved it's market presence. It's these little issues that are negatively impacting Ram.

GM, of late has also done very well in improving it's market share.

It seems Ford are the current losers in the US pickup market.

Ford over hyped and under delivered with the new aluminium F-150. This is reflected in the poor sales and take up of the aluminium pickup. The consumer isn't buying them in the numbers of old.

Ford's HDs are doing fine and improving in line with GM and Ram in numbers sold. Ford's HDs are squeezing out the aluminium F-150s to a "Ram" like performance.

Ram has never done such a thing, I wonder when Ford will come clean and state the new aluminium F-150 hasn't hit the spot with the consumer?

And just what does that last comment have to do with another Ram recall?? Was Ford mentioned in this story. If it was I missed it.

Truck Crazy,
I agree with you regarding that comment by HEMI SUCKS.

It has little to do with the article or a response to another comment in the thread, like I had responded to.

It's good to see you attempting to highlight those dumb comments by the kids.

And to think Marchionne was already having a hard time finding someone wanting to merge with FCA................

Big Al from Oz - TruckCrazy was referring to your comments about Ford .

Yep.

Big Al - I believe your constant negative Ford comments is really getting long in the tooth & I'm sure many will agree - So what I really want to know is why? Did Ford screw you in anyway? Was it bad investment in their stocks or a bad truck or just jealousy?!

Take note the current butt ugly Mazda BT you claim to own is derieved from Ford's heavy & years of investment into designing the current global Ranger (I personally met the Thailand reps in '08 who were collaborating with US Ford engineers) where F150 designs/etc were applied. So in reality, the current Ranger is really a smaller F150 - I should know as currently own both now). This is why thge global Ranger has overtaken the ISIS/Taliban preferred truck Toy HILUX.

Ford has produced some great trucks & millions of Americans that have bought one in the last 37 years reign can't be wrong. Just give time for the new beer can F150 to settle in watch out - F150 will reclaim their No1 truck sales status.

LOL Lou. Who would want to merge with this failure of a company? LOL 3 recalls in one day! You got work Sergio, get to it!

I'll keep driving my flawless Tundra! Only back at the dealer for oil changes and one recall that affected Ford, Gm and Ram too!

Lou_BC,
If Ford can have a decent win with the new aluminium F-150 and HD, Sergio could even want to take over Ford.

Lionel,
I do not make any negative comments regarding the F-150 as a vehicle.

I only speak the truth about it success in the market.

As I've stated the new aluminium F-150 appears to be a good truck and only competitive in the current market.

That is different than stating that the F-150 isn't wooing the consumer like Ford thought, hence the oversupply of those dual cab XLTs.

Maybe you should get in touch with Ford and find out what is occurring with the new aluminium F-150 sales numbers.

Lou_BC,
Again supporting the Frod troulles.

When will you ever learn?

Big Al - ok copy but you should allow it some time & we'll see if your anti-beer can truck predictions will be true. But you must give Ford some credit for the huge risk, balls & means (without US GOVT bailout $$$) to undertake such a costly gamble?!. Worst still - who would think they would be insane enough to stick a turbo 2.7 in an F150 especially in the V8 hungry US market?!

I come from part of the world with heavy European influence & outlook of American's are wasteful in general without any reagrd to the enviroment & our love of V8's/gas guzzlers doesn't help. I believe Ford is the first to recognise this & the direction they took was their way of slowly introducing change to the US market. Like it or not - this is the future; all trucks will need to loose weight & need to downsize to more fuel efficient engines...unfortuantely for all of us - we'll miss that deep V8 rumble :-(. The quetion is - is America ready for it & how long Ford can hold out of their gamble?!

Now I understand why Fiat wants GM to bail them out! FORGET IT FIAT!

You give them heck BiGal. You are my hero. DOWN UNDER LOOZER.

Mark my words. I predict that Crapsler FatRam will have more recalls than GM.
Like my hero BiGal, I to can predict the future.

Lionel,
I have stated many times in the past Ford is risking a lot moving to aluminium.

I do think Ford has had enough time to ascertain if the aluminium pickup will sell or not. We would of already have witnessed a larger change. Ford is only moving the aluminium pickups in numbers that are not even as good as the past when they are priced the same as the steel trucks.

Ford needs to make more profit.

As I've mentioned the improved sales numbers of the Ford HD's (and I'd be they are F-250s) is eroding F-150 numbers.

If this is the case then the aluminium HDs might have a huge hurdle to jump.

If you look at the numbers since the arrival of the aluminium F-150 GM has been going well and Ram has flatlined.

This indicates that many are moving over to GM products. This might even have helped the Colorado/Canyon do so well.

Talking about this would only affect the diehard Fordsters.

I have mentioned this in the past, this very issue will afflict Ford and had to contend with lots of pushback from the Ford fansters.

So, I'm reminding them to look at data accurately and interpret the data and information without their Ford subjectivity.

I do realise this site is heavily commented by Ford fans, but they have to face reality.

The new F-150 as good as it is, isn't setting the world on fire.

There is Jap lover - he has nothing to offer except in his world the Japanese are the best.

Then there is wisdom from Qantas - he would harp the FCA is the best - he would neglect or to even acknowledge: a)Germany financial and engineering input, b) average citizen taxes that went to bail out FCA - based on those two facts - his arguments or points are moot.

Qantas is unable to stay on topic at hand he would wander into non sequitur - such as Lionel and Lou BC indicated.

Oh, Lionel,
As for being positive to someone who takes risk.

Well, a punter is only ever commended when they win.

Lose at the races and your seen a nothing but a loser, wasting resources.

Companies, irrespective if they are American, Japanese or whatever are viewed the same. Make a incorrect decision and it's frowned upon.

I can't commend Ford so far for it's gamble.

I just love the Ford guys, so, so, eloquent aren't you.

Lou, you are the bestest Ford guy I do know.

You offer so much and so many comments with so many symbiotic personalities.

Total Recall! Need more fusion!

MORE GRIST FOR THE MILL...

RAM 1500 Creates Panic After Going Hay-Wire

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, or FCA for short, announced on a shocking recall for the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel and by shocking, we meant it both literally and figuratively.

This is because the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel is confirmed to be suffering from short-circuit which is caused by a battery wiring harness. In detail, the harness will chafe against a bracket and this is due to it not being assembled properly.

It is important for every RAM 1500 EcoDiesel owner to heed the recall order right away and this is because the issue can lead to an inferno. Even If that does not happen, the short circuit will cause a loss of power with the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel.

A total of 1697 RAM 1500 EcoDiesel is being recalled and FCA is informing every owner of the pickup truck personally.

http://www.nseavoice.com/cars/ram-1500-creates-panic-after-going-hay-wire-1001749.html

FCA Recalls 2014-2015 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel
Wiring Harness Could Short Circuit, Cause Fire

Sep 9, 201

http://tinyurl.com/ramedfirerecall

When are you Ford guys going to start posting those HEMI comments????

You wanted me to talk full size pickups and now I do talk 90% full size you aren't happy.

So, Ford is taboo to discuss only Ram can be slagged???

You can do better than that.

Its not the Ford guys doing it.

Big Al -- The Ford guys are busy driving their superior trucks to work sites and making money. No time to care about Fiat woes.

@Big Al "You offer so much and so many comments with so many symbiotic personalities."

Still fixated on the whole multi-personality thing.

The frequency at which that surfaces would indicate a reflection of one's own soul ;)

Big Al & to all the Ford haters - we Ford guys know their trucks are superior - full stop. it's like the jeep guys & their jeep thing (although they are a piece of crap...I know, I've owned several but kept an old YJ).
Next year you watch the beer can truck will take back the crown & jump hoops when the 10 speed is in place...

@Tom R. Lemon, Good find!

its official big al is now more annoying than hemiv8, who would have thought it possible...

on point, sucks for Ram and all the recalls, nice to see its being dealt with by FCA though.
would have to say when Ram releases a new model i would be leery of it for the first year seeing how they are having so many issues with a truck that come out in '09

Nobody cares about you BAFO.

"I can't commend Ford so far for it's gamble."

BUT you can BMW (Bitch, Moan, Whine) it to death!

Al can't link up where August sales increase by for dare from the he lines. While ford states strong sales in the f series is due to high demand on the new f150. Al still thinks they are selling old 2014 f150's while the lots are empty of new 2014's.

Al is never factual in his post and always opinion. Never does he include facts in his post.

Scott & Lou_BC,
Learn to debate with good information and then we might be able to have a debate with facts.

If all of your opinions are to support Phord and the UAW, then how good are they?

There is more going on here than meets the eye.

Lou_BC,
Yup.

Go back and find another one of your symbiotic personalities and post a comment.

Scooty,
Go back to the drug store and buy some more Phord Koolaid.

Big Al Supporter -
"Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is."

This is a Ram thread:
Assumptions:

"It seems Ford are the current losers in the US pickup market.
Ford over hyped and under delivered with the new aluminium F-150. This is reflected in the poor sales and take up of the aluminium pickup. The consumer isn't buying them in the numbers of old.
Ford's HDs are doing fine and improving in line with GM and Ram in numbers sold. Ford's HDs are squeezing out the aluminium F-150s to a "Ram" like performance.
Ram has never done such a thing, I wonder when Ford will come clean and state the new aluminium F-150 hasn't hit the spot with the consumer?"

Assumption that poster was talking about Ford Fanboys and not himself:
"It has little to do with the article or a response to another comment in the thread, like I had responded to.
It's good to see you attempting to highlight those dumb comments by the kids."
Assumption:
As I've mentioned the improved sales numbers of the Ford HD's (and I'd be they are F-250s) is eroding F-150 numbers.

Assumptions:
Talking about this would only affect the diehard Fordsters.

I have mentioned this in the past, this very issue will afflict Ford and had to contend with lots of pushback from the Ford fansters.

So, I'm reminding them to look at data accurately and interpret the data and information without their Ford subjectivity."

The simplest explanation is usually the best.

You have all sorts of ideas and theories like aluminum is a mistake, poor acceptance, Ford HD's eroding F150 sales, GM "globals" eroding sales, Ram "refinement", increased cost of aluminum, weight loss not delivering MPG, "overhyped" by Ford ad nauseum........

My assumptions:
1. GM had a very slow start with the GMTK2XX trucks and they are now doing well.
Lesson = wait and see
2. Ford chose to release high end F150's with no rebates and told fleets that F150 orders would be later in the year.
My assumption is that neglected fleet sales have increased Ford HD and GM sales. The industry is rebate driven and that also has softened initial sales.

Which set of assumptions are simpler and therefore more probable?

Lou_BC,
We will see, won't we.

Go back and support Scooty and the other Ford guys.

Now Lou, look back at Ford's rollout of the aluminium wonder truck and tell me did Ford misjudge the popularity of the higher end trucks?

How many did they over produce?

How many aluminium pickups are actually in August's total?

Give your best guess.

I'd be maybe half if you are lucky. This doesn't bode well for Ford.

If you are a fleet operator do you think you will buy a pickup that cost three times as much to repair?

Is new in every sense and radical in many ways?

If you are a consumer will you go out and buy such a radical product, especially, in you own words state "The pickup crowd are a very conservative group".

Lou, I do think you lust/love for Ford products has tainted your normally good judgement. But, whilst you continually support the Ford troullles I will challenge you.

Ford is not any different than any other company. Ford do eff things up. Unfortunately Ford misjudged with the aluminium pickup. I'm not stating it will sell like the Titan or even in Ram numbers, but it will drop.

I wonder when Ford will encounter development issues with the steel HDs, to defer their introduction.

Ford F Series used to be extremely profitable for them (with the assistance of the chicken tax). Ford's profitable F Series truck now is the SuperDutys.

Ford needs them more than ever.

This is what cracks me up about the Ford critisizers out there and how mentally incompetent you are. You know that Ford is number one when it comes to pickup trucks so when Ford does something new with their product you give it the rediculous standard of having to change the fabric of time and space or something farfetched like that. You speak of it as being "the aluminum wonder truck" like its a f***ing superhero thats supposed to save the world from distaster. So when it doesn't its an excuse for you to give it s**t and bring it down. Despite your ridiculous standards, its still more successful and is superior to your trucks. It has been for years and will be for years to come. Quit living in chevrolala land and wakeup to reality!

I came to the site and saw a whole a heap of recent articles related to Ram recalls. While I'm glad that they're taking responsibility to notify owners, it would've been better if they could just improve overall reliability.

Big Al from Oz - I'm quite familiar with fleets and unless damage is a safety issue companies do not care and will not repair. The lifespan is too short to fix every dent.
BTW - ever hear of insurance?

You keep insinuating that the F150 is costing Ford a ton of money....... financial statements tend to indicate otherwise. All of the financial news stated "tight supplies" of F150 as to why volumes are down. No one mentions aluminum.

Does that mean Ford has fanboys all through financial media outlets feeding disinformation?
Mike Levine conning the populace of the planet?

Mike Levine conning the populace of the planet, catching Ford gamming the system 4/5 times in the last 2 yrs. and Ford telling their customers what to buy instead of listen to what they wanted has really hurt Ford.

Lou,
You again present yourself not only as a totally blind Ford Phan, you also seem to be applying the logic of DenverMike.

I really considered you to be able to do better than that.

What profits??????????

So, these profits you speak of encompass what dates????

So, how many STEEL pickups vs aluminium are in those results?????

Lou, do you invest????

As for Mike Levine, he spins Ford $hit. He has to as he works for Ford. He isn't about to tell the world the aluminium F-150 isn't performing as well as Ford would of hoped for by now.

Ford will continually spin until the cows come home........like any other company.

May I ask which maker of Pickups is losing money making/selling them in the U.S.? From all reports all the U.S. OEM's are making roughly 90% of their Global Profits from Pickup sales in NA.
These "discussions" seem like a storm in a teacup. Real problems for the manufacturers will occur when (1) when China stalls as a engine room of Global growth (2) Fuel prices go through the roof

@BAFO - you keep telling everyone Google is their friend. I looked up Ford profits or losses related to the aluminum F150 and not one mentioned aluminum as a factor in decreased sales volume.
For what it's worth, several sites stated that the "roll out" was proceeding better than expected.

Already provided my theories which are based on my interpretation of the data.

- Ford focused on high end trucks and low rebates on the initial roll out.
- Buyers have become accustomed to factory rebates.
- Fleet sales (around 20% of total sales) were neglected till later in the year.
- Ford HD and GM sales are up proportionally.

I keep saying time will tell since GM had a poor start with their GMTK2XX trucks.

Like I pointed out and as an engineer you should understand Occam's Razor also known as the "K.I.S.S." principle.

I'm not turning this into some complex anti-aluminum theorem.

Truth be told, most consumers are too stupid to know the difference.