Another letdown from a supplier. Cant wait for the comments about how crappy Fiat Ram is. At least there are no deaths associated to this recall unlike the popular GM.

I just don't know what to say anymore......

I just don't know what to say anymore.....

ha more problems. why does anyone buy them?

No it says most are still in dealers hands so they ain't selling to fast.

To add to the list of recalls, GM just re-recalled 1.4 million vehicles because they failed to fix the risk of engine fires.

saw that gm recall on fox news. i think it's the 3rd recall for same problem

I recall American Axle made the 1500 axles. Depending on the fix his could be expensive.

Every manufacturer has issues. Even simple ATV's, snowmobiles, etc. It's just part of the process of making a part.

Nothing is perfect, but more quality control is required when your building something that is supposed to keep u safe.

And this applies to all manufacturers. Since most of their parts are sourced from other suppliers they SHOULD be randomly checking the QA on this stuff. Maybe even going to their plants to check things out and make sure things are done to spec!

And there where individuals questioning the veracity of Consumer Reports durability ratings.

While all makes have recalls and all use suppliers, I think a lot of this has to do with how much you control.

Fiats are a hodge podge of assembled parts--many of them chintzy. Did you see the front suspension and cross member pics on that Rebel? Yikes! Looked minivan spec.

What other companies use this axle manufacturer. And why haven't they been recalled??

Well, pay your workers $10ph and what do you expect?

The workers at American Axle must also receive food stamps to survive.

Well, how to destroy the American middle class.

As and aside, it is good to see FCA fix the problem. The tempering of the axles would be an automated process, so quality control was a let down, or the job has been so often a work around with QC be omitted might of become the norm to increase production.

Remember time is money and the vehicle component guys are dictated to by the manufacturers.

supercliffy,
American axle produce axles in many countries around the globe. It isn't just in the US.

Do all the Ram axles come from within the US?

Well, pay your workers $10ph and what do you expect?

Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Oct 27, 2015 5:51:09 PM

Oh oh, pick me pick me. How is this for an answer. DO YOUR JOB! it is really simple I have yet to see any proof they are paid $10 PH but even if they did, DO YOUR JOB! If you don't want to make that little then better yourself. This winy baby attitude anymore is sickening. People make way to many excuses for the situation they are in. If you are an adult you are the only one to blame for not bettering yourself. That is a pathetic statement, even for you BAFO.

Bean counters probably found the cheapest supplier. They all used to make their own parts but I guess that's not the case anymore. Sad. I agree with lmao. No matter what your job or how much you are paid, be the best at it. Everybody thinks they're underpaid, get over it. Be the best at what you do and work your way up

American Axle supplies and has supplied axles to Fiat, GM, andd Ford for quite a while. AAM quality control has been has sketchy ever since the uaw chased the jobs out of Michigan. These Mexican axles are trash.

LAMO,
Why not use the internet, hmmm.............DenverDike???

auto workers now employed at the lower level, unit labor costs ...

U.S. Car-Making Boom? Not for Workers - WSJ

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-car-making-boom-not-for-workers-1427154627

23 Mar 2015 ... Wages are much lower for American workers at parts companies than at ...
workers at the American Axle plant where pay starts at $10 an hour, ...

@LAMO, I agree with your statement that you have to better yourself to make more money that is even getting harder and harder to do because those good paying middle class jobs are becoming less and less available? When you are killing off the middle class, that will eventually break the whole economy system. Its sad when the 1%ers own over 40% of the wealth. Working hard to make extra money is not an issue I have but when Corporate greed takes over everything and wants you to take $10 an hour pay or they will theaten closing and moving to china and such that is not good. Also free trade with everyone is not good either.... ok now I am going off tangent. Thats for another discussion.

LAMO,
Why not use the internet, hmmm.............DenverDike???

auto workers now employed at the lower level, unit labor costs ...

U.S. Car-Making Boom? Not for Workers - WSJ

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-car-making-boom-not-for-workers-1427154627

23 Mar 2015 ... Wages are much lower for American workers at parts companies than at ...
workers at the American Axle plant where pay starts at $10 an hour, ...

Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Oct 27, 2015 6:42:45 PM

Your still in a mental breakdown Fat Albert. Like I clearly stated but again you cannot comprehend full statements. I do not care or even care to look up what the wage is. I can give a flying rats butt what an AAM janitor makes. What it comes down to is simple. I will put it simple so a guy like you can fully understand. DO YOUR JOB STUPID! I do not care if you make $2.75 hour and rely on tips. Do your job to the best of your ability period!. If you do not like it, better yourself.

LAMO,
I have nothing against a person doing there job.

The problem confronting the US is there are many people wanting to cling onto the past............manufacturing.

When you protect jobs, one or two events will occur. The price of the goods and services will rise to cover the cost of subsidisation, or,

Your pay will be diminished to compete against more competitive businesses/countries/workers.

So, as you can see you must move on and not protect jobs and industries.

Protection increases cost, and productivity. It even hampers technical progress as can be seen with the US industry since the 50s right up to the 2000s.

A liveable minimum wage is a necessity to maintain a real hold on an economy. Just using taxpayer dollars and forcing the public to pay more for goods and services like you advocate along with syclonerob (rob who??;) will only reduce your standard of living.

This has occurred in the US, the average person is worse off now than in the early 90s.

Fat Albert.

this statement of yours "A liveable minimum wage is a necessity to maintain a real hold on an economy. Just using taxpayer dollars and forcing the public to pay more for goods and services like you advocate along with syclonerob (rob who??;) will only reduce your standard of living."

I full disagree with. First off a livable minimum wage causes several things. Prices of the goods needs to increase to pay for all the workers making a livable wage. AKA a fast food burger flipper. These are jobs to get you some spending cash and hopefully you learn a no skills job is not going to provide for you. And hopefully you decide to learn a skill of some sort and better yourself. If a company needs to pay a livable wage for any nonskill worker as yourself the likelihood of hiring a skeleton crew is more of a possibly. OBAMA Care has already started that with companies needing provide insurance for full time workers.

Damn I agree with lmao again and there's no need to add anything to it

LAMO,
Use google and find out how the countries with less disparity operate.

Having half you population be almost subservient to the rest isn't good.

How much tax dollars is used in social welfare to subsidise those who make little in the US?

Will cost rise as you state? No. Here in Australia the average McDonalds casual worker is on $23ph. Our burgers don't cost three time what they do in the US. A Big Mac meal is only $1 more.

Disparity is the biggest issue in the US socially. Fix disparity and you will have a more harmonious society.

The tundra plant in San Antonio makes its axels at the plant. An Axel is a very simple part actually. A long tube with a couple of ballberrings and a diff housing. About 8-10 pieces makes an Axel. The less you rely on suppliers the more you control your product.

Damn auto correct. I meant axle not axel

@ Michael. The Tundra axle is not manufactured by Toyota at the TMMTX plant. Hino makes them at their Arkansas plant.

Entry level jobs such as burger flippers aren't designed for a career.They are just stepping stones,and are usually just limited hours/part time.They are for kids in high school or kids in college earning some money.That's it.They were never intended to be family raising careers.That's why the turn over.There are many good trade schools to go too,and grants and loans to get you through it,then into a decent paying SKILLED job with a future.

@ Big Al: What you guys do down under is your business,as this in the USA is ours.I noticed the crime rate down under has gone off the charts because you guys allowed the govt to take all your guns away from you,so please don't lecture us on what we need to do.

So we'll keep our guns,and the entry level jobs will stay entry level.When they whine and snivel enough,then maybe they'll get off their lazy asses and go learn a trade,and live happily ever after.

Yupp I've visited that plant. I saw one lane assembling axles. Maybe they have two sources?

@Michael. Not sure when you visited but I started that plant up while employed at Toyota. I was there from 2006-2009 and the axles were definitely not manufactured at the factory. There are 21 on-site suppliers that supply Tundra parts but Hino was not one of them. Admittedly I have been away from TMMTX for a number of years now, but I would be surprised if they were actually manufacturing the axles on-site.

Bottom line: Toyota makes their own axles--whether under the parent Toyota name or Hino.

Disparity between who? Those that live on government relief and vote for a living against guys like me who work and support their lazy asses? Disparity and income inequality are libtard catch phrases used to support socialism. Don't want to work for minimum wage? Learn a skill and better yourself. There are too many progressive buffoons telling the low information crowd not to worry, your government will take care of you. I hear there's a large island south of the equator that's becoming a leftist utopia. Maybe the libs can all go there.
Now for some relevance to this post. I'd never want a differential with ball bearings in it

Its a pos fiat slash pos dodge ram truck what can I say I won't take one even if they gave it to me for free its junk like all fiat and dodge is

Its a pos fiat slash pos dodge ram truck what can I say I won't take one even if they gave it to me for free its junk like all fiat and dodge is

Poor GM and Fiat trucks...sssooooooooooooooo many recalls

Another typical and fairly small recall that seems to be being handled properly. These things happen. For me its all about the result and the handling of it. Since Fiat is not fighting it, it hasn't been federally ordered, no one has been hurt or killed, and so long as they fix it the fist time then its all part of doing business. If you wanna go flinging shame about recalls take a look at the GMs firestarting oil leaks on the 3.8 V6 that just got recalled for a 3rd time for the same issue they have failed to fix... some of these cars/engines will be going back for the same issue for the 3rd FREAKING time. If you wanna get on a company about its recalls that's a real cause for it.

big al just admitted he is a socialist democrat, that explains it all now

@LMAO... way to go!

Not surprising to see more recalls from Fiat and Gm. I'm sure the Blue Oval will have one in the coming days too. If you want a quality product you just can't trust these crap companies and shoddy UAW workmanship.

I live by american axle and know some that work there. They get 10 an hour, when they get hired in from temp status, keep 10 an hour, then have to pay union dues. 10 an hour advertised all over the papers for this place.

The place used to be great to work for years ago, not anymore

Chuck Z, you are a special kind of Ford Zealot aren't you?

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/the-10-most-recalled-vehicles-of-the-past-quarter-century.html/?a=viewall

Sore because you lost your job at the Dodge plant in Mexico Jose?

Qantas

Your hatred to the average working people is well documented from your postings - I wonder why the vitriol is directed towards them while they are just doing their jobs.

You talk of something that you are not familiar - as an old saying ‘ a jack of all trade is a master of none’ lets discuss the issue at hand in a common sense manner - ’Axle shafts produced by a supplier may not have been properly heat treated’.

There are many variables that you missed - however your faux anger directed to the average working person is as good a three dollar bill.

Consider the following:
1- FCA may have ordered a generic product at a cheaper cost - so Marchionne could have a hefty bonus and make investors happy
2- The supplier bought cheap materials - so they too can make profit and make their investors happy
3- The furnace is defective
4- Management sets and control furnace temperatures
5- Supplier engineers inspect and approve the final product
6- FCA engineers & management inspect and approve the product to go into the vehicles.

No where in this chain of events - do you see the average working people have a say - so again your faux anger towards them - one can conclude is phony

No wonder Austal/Oceanfast do not seek your input on their aluminum boats - if they did - their boats will sink - on a tangent - maybe it is the reason Greg Norman ran away from Wunala Dundees.

For those how use the term "living wage" could you show me a death certificate that show the cause of death as "non-living wage'? That term is vacant of any meaning. What people are willing to accept as a wage from employer or employee is their decision. AAM has likely fixed the issue during the model year changeover, if a Ram is in your future it will be fixed by the time you buy it.

PPPSSSSTTTTTTTT!!!! Don't tell anyone but the new Nissan XD
has their axles made by American Axle. Guess they thought
more with their wallets then with their heads.

They should have had Dana-Spicer make them. That would
have been a power train to die for instead to die from.

And there where individuals questioning the veracity of Consumer Reports durability ratings.

Posted by: Lou_BC | Oct 27, 2015 4:19:54 PM

Go figure! F-150 is the KING of recalls!

And there where individuals questioning the veracity of Consumer Reports durability ratings.

Posted by: Lou_BC | Oct 27, 2015 4:19:54 PM

Ya, didn't they say to buy the better trucks from G.M and RAM?

GM recalling 1.4M cars; oil leaks can cause engine fires!!!!!

"More than 1,300 vehicles caught fire even after they were fixed by dealers, the company said."

Ya, didn't they say to buy the better trucks from G.M and RAM?

Posted by: HEMI V8 | Oct 29, 2015 12:00:57 AM

Now they actually do not. CR does NOT recommend the Ram due to reliability. The F150 is recommended though. LMAO.