2016 Detroit Auto Show: All You Need to Know

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The 2016 North American International Auto Show in Detroit had a new kind of energy. Chalk it up to the biggest auto sales year on record, some of the lowest fuel prices we've seen in decades or that automakers are manufacturing the most technologically advanced cars and pickups trucks ever. There's momentum here, and we can't wait to see what's coming next. You can bet we'll be right here to deliver everything we can find out.

The Detroit auto show runs through Sunday; here's everything we found out concerning trucks, with some pieces from our sibling site Cars.com.

Ford Shows 2017 F-150 Raptor SuperCrew at 2016 Detroit Auto Show

2017 Ford F-150 Raptor Video

Nissan Titan Warrior Concept: How Close to Production?

Nissan Titan Warrior Concept Video

2017 Honda Ridgeline: First Look

2017 Honda Ridgeline Video

2016 Detroit Auto Show: Day One Recap

Jeep to Make Pickup; Likely in 2018

2016 Nissan Titan XD Wins Cars.com's Best Pickup Truck Award

Hyundai Greenlights Pickup

2016 Detroit Auto Show Highlights

2016 Detroit Auto Show Winners and Losers

2016 Detroit Auto Show Winners and Losers: Concept Cars

 

Cars.com photos by Evan Sears

 

Comments

Still no word on the next-gen RAM truck. It's due right around the corner, but although it was revealed to dealers last fall - nothing is being talked about or has leaked. C'mon RAM - get with it!!

Similarly, when is Toyota going to be concerned about fuel mileage with the Tundra. With the new Titan (non-XD) coming out; they'll now be in last place regarding fuel efficiency.

And lastly, no news on the (non-XD) 1/2 ton Titan??? I thought it was to be released this Spring or early Summer.

@Ram guy- there are 2 more shows coming up- Chicago next month and NY in March/April. I fully expect he rest of the hands to be played by then:
Tundra 8-speed -they didn't develop that trans just for the few thousand 5.7 Land Cruisers.
Titan LD
2017 Frontier
2017 Ford SD
new Ram? They just re-did the HD chassis and restyled the front end on the LD.

Mark you calendars...
Chicago press days are Feb 11th & 12th.
NY press days are March 23rd & 24th.

These two shows have become almost as important for production model introductions and concept unveilings as Detroit over the last few years.

NEw redesign of the Ram I find very interesting, I really liked the look of the 09 and newer and I'm not sure how you make it better looking than it already is(except for the RAM in the front grill)

Its funny first off the great MPG issue... The 8spd tranny for the Tundra will only add like 1 MPG just like it did for GM not that 1 here and 1 there 2 or time times cant add up BUT fuel is CHEAP!!! and all the money that Ford and Fiat invested in MPG is gonna take longer to pay off. While I don't disagree with what they have done (engines, materials, tech, advancements) its definitely going to take longer to pay off and also gives GM (the laggard in this instance) a comfortable time to gradually catch up as opposed to being caught with pants down.

New Fiat info would be good especially if it really is right around the corner. Even spy shots would be good.

Dying for NON XD info on the Titan.

nitro - I agree the Ram is a good looking truck. The monster letter meme does ruin the looks. The Limited grill looks a bit better in person but isn't as nice as the standard grill.

Mr Knowitall -
AllPar says that 2016 the HD's will see a minor update.

In 2017 the 1500 will see a major update. They do not mention a new chassis or new body. They do talk about "PUG" Pentastar UpGrade". That is a turbocharged Pentastar.

In 2018 the HD's will see a major update. I do not like the fact that they are saying "major update" as opposed to "new model".
Marchionne has said that Ram will remain steel until 2020. That would suck if Ram won't come out with a totally new truck for another 4 model years.

Clint - fuel prices just keep dropping. That is great for my wallet but not so great for the oil patch.

If anything, Chrysler is the laggard in the mpg arena. They are heavily reliant on engines that are hard on fuel. The Ecodiesel and Pentastar being the only real exceptions. Cheap fuel will definitely help them.

GM on the other hand have always been able to get good mpg out of their V8's or at least empty mpg. They have a ton of SUV's with good mpg which helps offset truck mpg.

Tundra MPG for Toyota is a non-issue. They don't sell a huge number of them combined with the fact that they have the hybrid market cornered. I've said this before, they could put a V12 in the Tundra that gets 2 mpg and still not come close to denting their "carbon credits".

Ford is overall in a good place for CAFE due to a good mix of smaller vehicles and hybrids.

In 2018 the HD's will see a major update. I do not like the fact that they are saying "major update" as opposed to "new model".
Marchionne has said that Ram will remain steel until 2020. That would suck if Ram won't come out with a totally new truck for another 4 model years.

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Good post. That's my thinking as well. In the newest post on this site there is someone saying there is a new Ram right around the corner. No, there isn't. It will be a refresh, what they call a major one, but not a new truck.

Next gen Ram is not until after 2020. There will be another refresh next year.

I like the picture of the MGA#21 car. It will be the Feb.2016 Daytona 500 winner.

will the 2017 ram 1500 debut at the chicogia auto show in feburay

gas mileage? What is this, the 1970s? Nobody cares.

It's a non issue when pump gas is headed to the south side of $1.50 per gallon. Do I care about the oil patch?

Sorry, no. The market for commodities like crude oil, or frozen orange juice, for that matter, is always going to be having its ups/downs.

For every person who's getting beat up by the decline in the price of pump gas, there's another guy who's able to afford a better life for his family. Your "leaders" in Washington pretend that they can "manage" these ups and downs but they have no earthly idea.

What's sad is the dearth of new trucks. Ford rolling out a 2017 Raptor is scarcely a big deal -- it's less than five percent of the trucks they sell I bet. The Honda is another five percenter.

Nissan's XD has some potential but the consumer reaction in 2016 will determine how well it does, especially with the US economy in a rut.

RAM's leadership is looking smarter all the time. Ditto Toyota. Coming out with a new truck at this time is not that critical. The Hyundai is years away.

@ lou bc, tell me about it. Tons of layoffs and more to come in the patch. Average auto show over all. Nothing too surprising . it would be nice if Hyundai made an actual body om frame pickup with decent ratings. But thats unlikely. titan warrior concept should def get the green light. Its quite the looker. A jeep pickup would be nice if they were just as offroad capable as the wranglers but offered more storage room

Next gen Ram is not until after 2020. There will be another refresh next year.

Posted by: Jason N. | Jan 20, 2016 12:08:05 PM

Jason many times I will check this site out when I am sitting on the toilet making a statue of Johnny Welfare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxdnKQX3SqI

^^^^^Hmmmmm, looks like the johnny welfare doe or little hemi is T(rol!!!ling my user name again.

LMAO did you hear about the film Constipated?

It never came out.

I do see many making uneducated comments alluding to the glee of dropping crude prices.

This is bad. Crude prices need to be around $60 per barrel to maximise both the cost to the consumer and profits made by the oil companies.

There are many fracking wells in the US running at a loss. There is talk that many will shut down as they are finding the financing of these wells becoming harder and harder.

Prices as low as they are now is not good for the consumer in the short, medium or longer term.

Clint,
Even poorer than the eight speed giving a 1mpg improvement is the 1mpg improvement by Ford moving to aluminium for the F-150.

Then add to this a poorly performing 2.7 EcoThirst with 15.6mpgs and you can see why Frod will have some issue down the track.

I do foresee vehicle sales for 2016 declining. With the consumer becoming more money conscious on what vehicle they step into.

The US manufacturers have become overly reliant on pickups to keep them afloat.

CAFE is killing the US light vehicles. I'm waiting to here when CAFE is mandated against the lighter HD pickups.

The government will gradually shut/slow down large vehicles to meet CO2/FE goals it's promised in Paris.

Four Wheeler Magazine has named the 2016 Ram 1500 Rebel its 28th Annual Pickup Truck of the Year, beating the Nissan Titan XD PRO-4X, Chevy Colorado Crew Cab Z71, and Toyota Tacoma Double Cab TRD Off-Road.

Seven judges tested the trucks’ comfort and performance in traffic jams, technical trails, and other conditions over five days and 1,000 miles.


Marchionne has said that Ram will remain steel until 2020. That would suck if Ram won't come out with a totally new truck for another 4 model years.

Posted by: Lou_BC | Jan 20, 2016 11:16:55 AM

Ford cant compete with Ram neither can Chevy Ram has too many class exclusive options for real truck owners.

@LouBC. Ram has class leading MPG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRQOOwD3MEw

All Guts!

All Glory!

All @$$ kicking

Ram!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfYW0BlMG0

Ram class leading torgue. Best in class Towing. I think Ford and Chevy still have some work to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8y--fHpLXk

@Hemroidv8, I was hoping you would have gotten you some cream to rub on them Roids by now cause you are indeed a pain in the A$%!!

NIce rant BIg AL, again, nobody cares about MPG, and yes low oil is great for the american people who can now afford to go places, as Papa said, the economy hasn't been all that great and things like this can help those who struggle, if you ever had the chance at hardship(which is apparent you didnt) you would know this.

HemiV8,
I do believe FCA would realise that Ram requires a large refresh to maintain it's improving popularity up until recent times.

I do believe that Ram has hit the sweet spot with the current Ram's suspension setup and it's drivetrains. FCA was clever in the way it's suspension has been made, a limo ride compared to other pickups, mainly Ford.

Why? Because most who buy a 1/2 ton pickup don't buy them as "trucks", they are bought as a car/SUV alternative. This fact is lost by the diehard pickup freaks who really thing the 1/2 ton pickup is a truck. This is not quite true this day and age.

Pickups have become soft, even our midsizers in Australia have become soft. I like this. Here the best rated pickup for ride qualities is the Nissan Navara, because of it's coil sprung assend.

The exterior and interior need to be updated.

The problem is does FCA even have the money to do this?

Of the large 1/2 ton pickups I do believe the VM diesel powered Ram would have to be the better of the US pickups.

Ford can't even challenge this with it's rough riding high fuel usage EcoBoost powered vehicles. Even Ward's wouldn't rate the EcoThirst engines due to their less than stellar fuel usage.

@BIg AL, nobody cares about FE, they only care about military grade and thats why Fseries was number 1, get over it, and get your boy in NJ to buy stock in Aluminum so he doesnt go out of buisness

@BIg AL, nobody cares about FE, they only care about military grade and thats why Fseries was number 1, get over it, and get your boy in NJ to buy stock in Aluminum so he doesnt go out of buisness

Posted by: nitro | Jan 21, 2016 9:26:32 AM

Seems to me more people care about the steel safety cage provided by the
#1 truck manufacturer GM. The numbers don'the lie. My guess is you are not an accountant.

@gmsrgreat(or BAFO) actually you cant read, you said #1 manufacture(needing several brands), correct and I agree, I said brand #1 f series also correct, one day you Gm guys will wake up, it seems the biggest defense comes from GM folks, wonder why that is.

@HemiV8 - interesting attempt at defecting the conversation away from the FACT that FCA is NOT going to come out with a new Ram any time soon. You are an AllPar nutswinger so you have seen all of the articles there.

"AllPar says that 2016 the HD's will see a minor update.

In 2017 the 1500 will see a major update. They do not mention a new chassis or new body. They do talk about "PUG" Pentastar UpGrade". That is a turbocharged Pentastar.

In 2018 the HD's will see a major update. I do not like the fact that they are saying "major update" as opposed to "new model".
Marchionne has said that Ram will remain steel until 2020. That would suck if Ram won't come out with a totally new truck for another 4 model years."

What I posted is from AllPar.

Even your bible says the "second coming" is a long time out.

Here is some good news from Automotive News:

""FCA doesn’t have the resources to fulfill the emissions requirements," said Maryann Keller, an independent auto-industry consultant in Stamford, Conn. "It's not a company that can survive in its present form.""

"To comply, FCA must improve faster than bigger and richer rivals who also are straining to cut emissions. Failing that, it might be forced to stop building some of the light-duty trucks that Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Kevin Tynan says deliver 90 percent of its profit. Or, to keep making them, it could be forced into a merger."

"It's not a company that can survive in its present form."

FCA fanboys must have a hard time reading that fact.

But it gets better............

Marchionne still thinks that a merger with GM is needed for them to survive.

What do you think would happen to Ram if they merged?

There would be one more facelift and rebadged Chevy line on the market.

GMsRgreat would love that - a 3rd truck brand for GM to claim "manufacturing" superiority over Ford.

LOL

@lou

GMsRgreat would love that - a 3rd truck brand for GM to claim "manufacturing" superiority over Ford.

Now thats funny right there!

Lou of BC,
Re-read my comment.

Just fiddling with a few creases and minor engine work doesn't constitute a MAJOR change.

I suppose you are about supporting Frod phans and talking down Rams, rather than intelligent dialogue.

Why do you not revert back to Lou and not Lou_BC.

Lou was half decent, this Lou_BC persona you've developed is confused with your other symbiotic friends;)

sorry to say but gas prices need to increase, were spiraling down in to a worse recession that we all were just starting to climb out of. the family that can afford to buy the cheap gas now? umm that family will be out looking for work if the prices keep going down, oil is a major driving force for economies everywhere, they have so many connections to other business it would make your head spin....

@BARFo - re-read your comments?

WTF?

They are nausea producing enough the first time around...............

your posts are like a bad car wreck - you know you'll get nightmares if you look but...... you......... still...... look.......

BARF.

Lou,
Yep,

Real inspiring stuff.

Lou,
Yep,

Real insipid stuff.

there......... fixed it for you.

"Nobody cares about FE." If nobody cares about FE then why did Ford switch to using aluminum bodies? If you answered because of less corrosion then I have some ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. Maybe you don't care about FE but if you are a manufacturer with most of you profits depending on large pickups and suvs then you worry about meeting FE standards. If you are Chrysler then you are really worried since most of your vehicles will not meet these graduated standards. Whether the price of gas is $1.50 or $5 a gallon does not matter because you still have to meet these standards.

Some of you fail to look at the entire picture in that the FE standards don't just effect the consumer but the manufacturer. Also lower fuel prices bring more layoffs in the oil patch and eventually put smaller producers out of business which eventually will lead to less competition, mostly the bigger producers, with higher prices. Some of you lack knowledge of Economics.


Also lower fuel prices bring more layoffs in the oil patch and eventually put smaller producers out of business which eventually will lead to less competition, mostly the bigger producers, with higher prices. Some of you lack knowledge of Economics.

Posted by: Jeff S | Jan 21, 2016 5:36:24 PM

Had something interesting happen recently. A vendor that I use to haul out waste oil, for free, said they need to start charging for it now. Since oil prices are low they cannot recoup enough money from whatever they do with used waste oil. So now they have to charge everyone for waste oil pickup.

Jeff S - I'd say that for most people, mpg isn't the #1 purchase metric for buying a truck.
Right now at 87 cents per litre (3.38 US/Gallon) I'm not to concerned about mpg.
When it was 1.47/litre (5.70 US gallon) I cared much more.

With that being said, if I looked at buying 2 near identical trucks and one gets much better mpg, I'd buy the one that gets better mpg.
If the one that gets better mpg did not meet most of my needs, it isn't going to end up in my driveway.

Many times I will check this site out when I am sitting on the toilet making a statue of Johnny Welfare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEjpvkoVVMI

@Lou_BC & LMAO--I have experienced lower prices for recycling steel and aluminum. For a while I was cleaning out my garage and storage shed so I was hauling steel and aluminum to the salvage yard and metal recycler--it seems that the price of both are about half what they were 2 years ago. My garbage service started a few years ago charging a fuel surcharge which has not gone away. True that most people who buy new trucks are less interested in FE but then most vehicles get better FE than they have in the past because of more efficient engines and transmissions and lighter components which all the manufacturers are using to meet tighter FE standards. The Government is not going to reduce the standards, if anything the standards have become more stringent.

The money makers for Ford, GM, and Chrysler are the full size pickups and suvs so whatever they can do to keep these vehicles compliant with the FE standards and still make them within reach. We might see these vehicles in the future much different than they are today--less V-8s, more aerodynamic, and lighter materials.

Alot of oilfield leases are actually losing money pulling oil out the ground right now. Not all the leases go off brent or wti. Some are much lower. One is selling 19 dollars a barrel out here and it sosts thrm around 25 to get out of the ground. It does indeed need to be around 50 dollars or greater for everyone to win. Dean and jeff s are correct. The oil and gas industry pretty much influence everything . its a short term gain for consumers at the pump but long term detriment for our economy.

That titan warrior looks good.

Well, interesting reading comments, usually good, sometimes blah blah blah Ford #1, Ram #1, GM #1 etc....

With that--I have 2014 RAM Hemi crewcab long bed. Wow, what a machine. She is a beast. 8 speed ZF tranny is superb. I don't have start/stop feature, but probably a good idea. Not sure about switching Ram to aluminum frame, but maybe no way around it, although GM seems to be doing OK with lighter frames made of steel right? I would love to see how they could put Ram on diet. They must be able to find weight savings somewhere right? I always get a kick when people bad mouth that Ram 1500 dosen't have enough payload and towing---well, that is because if there is an issue, you just buy a 2500 or 3500!! There are certain benchmarks for the 1500 class, and that is good enough, period. So, just curious where the truck class is headed...Yeah, I understand that if you don't add the latest 10 speed tranny and aluminum frame, the media (and some fanboys) will excoriate you for being piece of crap truck, I guess that is unavoidable these days, but the truck market offerings are just such amazing vehicles, across the board. Ok, enough blabbing, cheers!

Went to the show on Saturday...
Ford quietly had ONE 2017 SD on the floor. No nothing about it. You can clearly see that the bed is at least 2" lower thann on the F150. Compulsory snickering at the F150 on a hoist.
Ridgeline looks better in person, but with the sloped hood, the proportions are weird.
The Titan XD also looks better in person, especially in the Pro4X trim- they color match a lot of the chrome out front, which really mellows it out. I really like the interior. WAY better than the Tundra, probably better than the GM. The bed is a proper 6ft box. Whatever documentation is listing it at 67" is wrong. If I were shopping for a new crew cab today- it would definitely be on my list.



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