But what about sales?

The simple reason Ford sells more trucks is they include vehicles that are a much higher class such as f450's or f150's that don't last as long as GM trucks and are replaced more frequntly than GM. IF there is a flaw in GM it is their high quality. My 2005 Sierra is nowhere near ready to be replaced and when I had it in for the oil change the service attendent could not find anything wrong with it. Sorry GM, if I'd bought a ford or toyota I'd had to replace it twice by now but another 10 years will be easy with GM.

HERE ARE THE FACTS.

NOBODY SOLD MORE TRUCKS IN 2015 than GM PERIOD! Chevy Silverado, Suburban, Express, City Express, Colorado, Tahoe, Cadillac ESV, GMC Sierra, Yukon, and Canyon are GM TRUCKS PERIOD. NOBODY GETS BETTER FUEL ECONOMY ON THEIR TRUCKS THAN GM.

GM HAS THE MOST FUEL EFFICENT PICKUP TRUCK PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does that spell it out for you people? These are undisputable facts and are not opinions.

@Rob we are talking pickup truck sales here and the reason GM trucks get better fuel economy is because they are less tricky if you will riding very low to the ground and less ground clearance.

WOW, Rob. Need to replace two fords or Toyotas to one Gm product. You could say the same for GM, Dodge, etc. They all make trucks and cars that have issues. Need to wake up.

Very nice truck. Just wish Nissan would build it. And as far as this being about Nissan, please lets keep it that way but for some ignorant people that will be impossible to do. Already proved it.

I like it.

This does not need to be built like a Raptor, with soft suspension, cannot haul much payload, rolls in curves at any speed etc.. Just like the way it is with heavy duty shocks, period.....

I really like this Titan.

This would suit me down to a "T" for Outback touring on the big open plains and deserts.

I do hope Nissan also looks at this concept for the up and coming Frontier.

Nissan really can't remove any of what has been accomplished and added to the Titan to make this Warrior. As any changes would detract from the vehicle.

As Mark has pointed out, the biggest changes is the suspension and wheels. The diffs will need to change ratios to accommodate the larger wheels.

Great work by Nissan.

Nice tuck from Nissan, but as the article alludes to it will NOT be built so who cares? Back to our regularly scheduled topic...

Ford Boys have their panties in a bunch. They can never admit GM is the company and that GM sells the MOST TRUCKS.

Ford better think about speeding up that midsize offering, it looks like thats the hottest market right now. Wouldn't want to hurt their precious F-Series sales numbers though...

Still haven't heard if Ford has got a good crest test ratings from the IIHS on the 2016 F-150 SuperCab.

All I ever hear is F-Series sells the most if you don't count GM as a Company wah wah wah...

Sierra,
I really think looking at the modifications, which are minimal and quite easily achievable this is a clever marketing ploy.

I bet this will make it to production, at a premium of course.

A proper diesel off roader, you can't get better than that.

Definitely see a lot of that Fred Diaz influence from his Ram days. Not a bad thing. I like the direction he's taking Nissan and this is one good looking truck.

@BAFO,

I'll bet you $1,000 it won't make it. Put up or shut up.

^^^

what an idiot, please go away

This truck will be better competition against the Tundra, Ford has nothing to worry about, this is Nissan for friggin sake.

Sierra,
WTF????

Where does $1 000.00 come into it?

Geez, talk about living on another plantet Sierra.

How much more is a Raptor over any other F-150 with comparable bling, discounting the suspension and chassis mods?

Nissan, bring this to Australia!

A large diesel will sell to many grey nomads.

Nice truck. This would be at the 1500lb cargo rating or less due to the accessories. Makes it useless for a true long range back country weapon. But then again, 1,500 cargo puts it on par with the Power Wagon.
Too bad Nissan won't offer it.

^^^

what an idiot, please go away
Posted by: Frank | Jan 14, 2016 3:28:10 PM

What's a matter Frank, can't handle a little ford ribbing? Just because I said GM sells more than Ford trucks? I have seen so many anti GM posts on this board it will make your head spin.

So what if ford BRAND sold the most trucks. Ford has the newest platform.

Ford has all new F-150. GM's current platform is older and they are still selling more trucks than Ford as a company!

Yes, Ford outsells chevy all by itself but GM outsells ford in truck sales. I am sure that this battle will go back and forth between Ford and GM. So Frank, stop playing with your mom's computer.

And to sum up, no suprise ford is leading brand, but GM has the older platform and all the negative B.S. from taking a LOAN from the govt. GM SELLS MORE TRUCKS AS A COMPANY.

Lou_BC,
Actually it doesn't make it useless as an Outback tourer.

If you were a true off roader you would realise that in off roading you will only ever load your vehicle to 1/2 to 2/3 of it's recommended payload.

I would assume the suspension that would be fitted to this Titan Warrior would also have an off road rating. You can't know what this rating will be. But, hey, Lou, you know it all;)

Payloads that are quoted by the manufacturers is for improved surfaces, not off road excursions.

But, hey, you know it all;)

P.S. (Post Script, Lou),
This is why if you have ever off roaded seriously and have taken an interest in off road activities you will notice that suspension kits are rated for load capacity.

This capacity isn't for on road activities, ie my suspension kit is rated from 0kg-300kg, but on road it is rated to the manufacturers specifications. These kits are rated for a sustained load, which is to reduce spring sag and off road wheel articulation.

But, hey, Lou, you know it all;)

Know it all .................... not or at best very little.

Like I said, nice truck but they wont build it just like this. It will look close but its just hard to get them to do it. Just wish all comments could be about Nissan but the same guy under different names wont allow that to happen due to his ignorance. Be so nice if he would just disappear.

Like I said, nice truck but they wont build it just like this. It will look close but its just hard to get them to do it. Just wish all comments could be about Nissan but the same guy under different names wont allow that to happen due to his ignorance. Be so nice if he would just disappear.

Posted by: Truck Crazy | Jan 14, 2016 5:19:31 PM

Agreed, GMSNOTSOGREAT cannot seem to keep his mouth shut and on topic.

With the exception of the trim over the back window this is a great looking truck. It is a shame it likely will not get produced. But I bet you will see some aftermarket companies sell some goodies to build your own.

@Sierra,

You're an uber idiot, you're not worth my time.

Sierra,

You say Ford sells the most because they don't last and need to be replaced more often. Then you say GM sells the most trucks overall. If that's true, doesn't GM also sell the most because they don't last and need to be replaced? You also say Ford sells the most because it has the newest truck. You are not making a whole lot of sense with your aguments.

in a more toned-down version to compete with the Toyota Tundra TRD Pro or Ram 1500 Rebel.

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I agree with this theory. If anything happens, it will become a mild shock and sticker package like the TRD and Rebel. The truck as shown at the auto show has about a .1 % chance of happening.

For ALL you FCA 'boys' reading this, this is why YOUR 'fool' company has such good sales..."Two Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV dealerships have filed a civil racketeering suit against the automaker, alleging the company offered dealers money to report unsold vehicles as sold."
This should really make you 'boys' happy.

Posted by: Tundra Bob | Jan 14, 2016 4:39:45 PM

“This lawsuit is nothing more than the product of two disgruntled dealers who have failed to perform their obligations under the dealer agreements they signed with FCA US,” the company said in the statement. “They have consistently failed to perform since at least 2012, and have also used the threats of litigation over the last several months in a wrongful attempt to compel FCA US to reserve special treatment for them, including the allocation of additional open points in the US FCA network.”

http://www.autonews.com/article/20160114/RETAIL01/301159990/fca-calls-dealer-charges-of-false-u-s-sales-reports-baseless

Looks a lot better.

The whole response from FCA:

January 14, 2016 - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V. (“FCA”) (NYSE: FCAU / MTA: FCA) learned late yesterday of the filing of a lawsuit in an Illinois Federal Court by two U.S. dealers located in Illinois and Florida. The named defendants are FCA US LLC (“FCA US”) and FCA Realty LLC. The dealer plaintiffs are two dealerships of the larger Ed Napleton Automotive Group.

The lawsuit makes allegations of false sales reporting by FCA US. Notwithstanding numerous requests to provide evidence of this alleged activity, the plaintiffs have refused to substantiate their claims. FCA US carried out an investigation of the facts, and has determined that these allegations are baseless and plaintiffs were notified of this fact before they filed suit.

This lawsuit is nothing more than the product of two disgruntled dealers who have failed to perform their obligations under the dealer agreements they signed with FCA US. They have consistently failed to perform since at least 2012, and have also used the threats of litigation over the last several months in a wrongful attempt to compel FCA US to reserve special treatment for them, including the allocation of additional open points in the US FCA network.

FCA US will continue to resist these pressures, safeguarding the relationship of trust and openness which governs its relationship with its dealers. FCA finds it unfortunate and disappointing that reputable media would be willing to be used in questionable litigation practices without a full understanding of the facts.

This press release contains forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current expectations and projections about future events and, by their nature, are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties. They relate to events and depend on circumstances that may or may not occur or exist in the future and, as such, undue reliance should not be placed on them. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in such statements as a result of a variety of factors most of which are outside of the control of FCA.

Lou_BC,
Let me tell you something. This will be my next truck. Do you have a problem with that?

You think you know it all, but if only you knew the true specs and understood what true off-roading is, you could talk.

This will be a great truck for off-roading and will win the 2017 off-road shootout. No doubt about it. Big Al is also considering putting in an order for one when he moves to Florida next year.

Alex,
FCA press release? Are you popping pills from the hospital you work at and halucenating again? Stick to the topic please.

This is agreat truck by Nissan.

Rob Sinclair
I find it hard to believe nothing is wrong with your 2005 Silverado.
Maybe there are things wrong you just don't know about or maybe the mechanic you take it to is either stupid or lazy and doesn't want to work on it.
My 2013 F-150 had tons of problems with only 14K miles, brakes-brakes-brakes, and brakes again, driveline issues, heater blower motor, sync system screwed up, water in tail lights, pb locked up, TWO cracked windshields, pwr window issues, stock tires worn out, allinement issues, excessive steering free play, broken tailgate latch

Tom#2 is back again.

Thanks Big Al Supporter.
I'm grateful for your loyalty.

I'm actually moving to Florida this year. papajim invited me to live with him, Lou_BC and Alex. They live in a one bedroom studio apartment out the back of Dade County bordering the Glades.

Johnnie Joe's Adventures ---- The WARRIOR! Pt 1 ----

"What's the hell is that racket!" Betty Bob yelled out to Johnnie Joe from the kitchen window. All she could hear was the smashing of glass and constant thumping of metal.

"I'm nearly done putting those sideboards on this piece of junk pickup. They don't fit." Johnnie Joe yelled back.

After another five or ten minutes the racket subsided and she heard Johnny Joe come in the back door holding a can of Coor's Light in one hand and a bong in the other, looking content and happy. "Well, Betty Bob". Johnny Joe said
in his usual slow way when he was thinking hard, forcing Betty Bob to pay closer attention. "I think it is about time to change from Ford pickups, they seem to sit in the driveway broken all the time. This EcoThirst EV F-150 only goes 15-20
miles on a charge, then we have to plug it in for a day to use it again." Johnny Joe state with a little whine in his
voice.

"What can be get to bring the firewood home so I can cook your supper?" Betty Bob questioned, then added. "Make sure this
pickup has a real pickup bed, as well. I'm sick and tired of your crying and crap because you lose all 1 500lbs of wood
you cut and we have to eat raw steaks and vegetables."

"I like those raw potatoes." He then continued. "Did you see the ad on TV?" Johnny Joe asked her.

"What ad?" Betty Bob responded, realising the beer and weed has gotten to him.

"The one with that new Nissan pickup, I think it's called a Warrior. Sounds like a great name and it looks like a real
truck." Johnnie Joe said.

"I thought you said Fords are the best pickups?" Betty Bob countered. "Your dad Lou even says so. He even says they have
hair dryers on them, that's a really nice touch for a woman. How considerate of Ford."

"From what I've heard the Nissan is a real truck, with a real truck engine, a Cummins diesel." Johnny Joe told Betty Bob
hoping to excite her. He knows she loves hearing him talk pickups and mechanical things, like Lou, his daddy.

to be cont'd!

Its very cool and its definitely getting to or at least close to the level of modification you see between a Raptor and normal FX4 F150. Which is cool unto itself. Im tired of packages that cant go beyond wheels tires and stickers. All too often a locker and better shocks are the only "meat" in any of these "packages". Its nice to see different control arms, fenders, axel, shocks, a substancial increase in height and a MASSIVE increase in width. This is definitely a step above the rebel and the powerwagon (both respectable packages compared to most of the others out there), and seems to be treading in raptor territory as far as level of modification. With the diesel and the non racing suspension I don't think its going to deliver raptor thrills but that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Awesome truck for sure, and hopefully it comes out it WILL sell well, can we stay on topic now? Ya know since Big AL, and his many other names have ruined this thread.

Awesome looking truck. like others said it wont make it to production. the way it looks right now it would cost over 100K i bet

@ Rob

Why would you make this huge comment when this article is about a new Nissan? Frankly I know I'm not the only one that is sick and tired of hearing the argument about GM and how cool they are. I just want to read a good article about a Nissan truck. I could care less that GM sold more vehicles than anyone else. And you are not the only person out there that has had zero issues with a truck that is 10 years old. This happens all the time. Sometimes people just get a crappy lemon.

@ Tundra Bob

Do your homework about the FCA lawsuit. There have been many dealers across multiple brands that have already been down this road. Your hate comments just show you have something against FCA. Again this article is about a Nissan Warrior concept. Like the rules state, "stay on topic."

@BARFo

- "1/2 to 2/3 of its recommended payload."

Titan XD - 1500 - 2000lbs.

Translation:
1/2 = 750 - 1,000 lb
2/3 = 1000 - 1,333 lbs.

So why buy a crewcab?

XD so far is only crewcab!

You indirectly telling us you have no friends or family?

Driver and passengers suck up almost all of that capacity if you happen to go into the back country with buddies or family.

Standard off-road gear i.e. shovel, chains, cables, recovery strap, jacks, tools, 1 sleeping bag, thermarest, small tent, first aid gear, a few days of water and basic rations etc.. weighs about 350-400 lbs. My gear and tool box weights just over 500 lbs.

Extrapolate that to a few weeks time and add other people and the weight really piles on...... unless you just buy light weight back packing gear (then what's the point of owning a truck!).

Thank you once again for demonstrating the fact that the Titan XD is a heavy truck with inadequate capacity.

Big Al, if it's ok with you, I was responding to the other comments. Stop being a dipshit. I know that's hard for you.

I saw a Titan diesel yesterday. I'll have a real Cummins 6.7 thanks! Just because it pisses off Little Al from Broadmeadows.

@Clint - it would be nice to see manufacturers offer more than just cosmetic offroad packages. Most FX4's I see are bought just because buyers liked the colour matched grill surround and more monochromatic look. Ford got the picture since that style of trim is now a stand alone cosmetic package.

I personally do not like the fact that Ford has gone totally to electronic locking rear ends. I've had the chance to drive an F150 with e-locker during very bad weather and it does not function as well as a mechanical LSD. It just does not work well with traction control and the electronic control of engagement and disengagement are annoying.

The better solution would be to do like Ram does with the Power Wagon. Their rear diff is a mechanical LSD with electronic lock out.

@Alex - agreed (on all counts. LOL) The Titan XD needs 500lbs more cargo rating to ACTUALLY be effective as a tow machine and alternative to HD 1/2 tons or even to LD 3/4 ton trucks.

GM's 1/2 tons have max tow with 2k cargo. Full bling pulls that to around 1,800lbs cargo which is marginal for a max tow rating or even a 7/10's max tow.

I was looking at Ford Canada's site and they are posting max cargo for their 1/2 tons on the "build your own" web page. The lightest was the Limited at 1450lbs. The XL and XLT were the only ones available with HD cargo at 2,600lbs. The rest of the line up topped out at 2,000lbs just like GM crew cab trucks.

If one looks at 2k cargo with 11-12k max tow then I have the choice of 6.2 powered GM's at all trims below Denali or HighCountry (Can't get max tow/cargo in those trims).
Ford has max cargo with both 5.0 and EB3.5. Max tow is only EB3.5.
Those trucks can be purchased at less cost and will be much more cost effective to operate than the XD.

The XD is as heavy as any HD diesel and any HD diesel will spank it in everything except empty ride. If empty ride is your primary concern then you should not be considering a HD in the first place.

BARFo is blinded by his little truck and diesel orthodoxy.

"I was looking at Ford Canada's site and they are posting max cargo for their 1/2 tons on the "build your own" web page"

I meant to say they were posting the maximum cargo rating available for each configuration.

Lou, I have also explained to him over and over how he max towing number is theoretical. It doesn't include be payload affected by tongue weight. It's as if there is no tongue weight. But in the real world, a bumper pull adds up to 15% of trailer weight to tongue weight, and a 5th wheel/ gooseneck adds up to 25%. You can't fill. Titan with passengers, fuel, and tow 12,000 lbs. With just a driver, the heaviest gooseneck it could handle is 7500 lbs! But the driver better be under 125lbs, and don't even have a Big Mac wrapper inside the truck, and make sure your fuel tank is empty!

Little Al is hoping for a "big one" at the sausage party he is going to in King's Cross.

Again, Lou,
You again, are twisting and turning with your response.

You stated THIS truck. This truck you can not know what it is rated to.

Simple. You have of late been contributing the qualities of DenverMike.

@ BIG AL, will the real BIG AL please stand up?

Like the Ford Raptor complete and utterly useless off road.
unless your going to Baja.
Too wide ,too expensive, for real off roading
Around these parts you need narrow trucks with approximately 9 inch of clearance. locker in the back.
No more than 140 wheel base
and an engine with toque to spare. as well as good rubber.

@BARFo - I pointed out the Titan XD's cargo ratings are 1500 - 2000 lbs. Assuming these suspension mods do not alter those ratings then what I said still stands. The odds are as I have previously pointed out, the extra bling will drop the ratings even further.

Case in point - the previous gen Raptor had less payload than a standard F150. The current Power Wagon is 1500lbs which is considerably less than an equivalent 3/4 ton.

We do not know what THIS truck can tow or haul BUT based on the Titan XD we can hypothesize.

Not knowing capacities or performance did not stop YOU from saying this truck would be a great back country excursion tool.

Wizard of Oz should be your new moniker. Pretend knowledge and smoke and mirrors are your speciality.

dave - "Around these parts"

That is as vague and as targeted a response as BARFo's usual tripe.

One can slag ANY truck based upon local variations.