2016 Nissan Titan XD Tackles the Texas Truck Showdown Max Towing Tests

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The all-new 2016 Nissan Titan XD is the first replacement for Nissan's half-ton pickup truck in more than 10 years. Interestingly, Nissan decided to go with a two-tier full-size pickup-truck strategy. The heavier-duty XD model, which seems more like a three-quarter ton than a traditional half-ton, was available first with only one powertrain option: a 5.0-liter V-8 Cummins diesel engine with an Aisin six-speed transmission.

This new "heavy-duty half-ton" is part of Nissan's strategy to carve out some new full-size truck territory for itself where it won't directly compete with regular half-ton or three-quarter-ton pickups. Instead, Nissan is straddling the two segments to offer potential customers something new. Nissan says its research indicated that as many as 150,000 pickup truck buyers each year might be interested in a truck that offers three-quarter-ton towing and payload capability with half-ton driving dynamics.

During our recent Texas Truck Showdown 2016: Max Towing, we thought it would be interesting to see how the Titan XD compared when tested alongside half-ton pickups equipped with max-tow packages. However, we did not to include the XD in our package of stories for several reasons. First, the Titan XD is not a half-ton — although the 2016 Titan, which comes out later this year, is. Second, the only truck Nissan could provide was a 4x4 model, and we requested 4x2s for our half-ton test. Third, it did not come close to our price target of $51,000; it was more expensive by almost $6,000. Fourth, the truck we got was not a sellable production model, although it certainly provided comparable test numbers.

So here's what we learned about the 2016 Titan XD.

 

2016 Titan XD SL

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Our Deep Blue Metallic 2016 Nissan Titan XD SL crew cab rang up at $56,425, including destination, with the standard 5.0-liter V-8 two-stage turbo-diesel Cummins and Aisin six-speed automatic transmission. Price differences between 4x4 and 4x2 base-level trim packages (S, SV, SL and Platinum) is around $3,000, while the PRO-4X model (4x4 only) starts at $52,165 with destination. Our SL model came pretty well equipped with a Rockford Fosgate sound system, heated leather seats, telescoping steering wheel, 20-inch aluminum wheels, power sliding rear window, chrome bumpers and door handles, parking sensors, tie-down cleats in the Utili-track rail system, LED bed lighting, integrated in-bed gooseneck hitch, trailer brake controller, towing mirrors and more. The only option was a set of heavy-duty floormats for $200. Since the Titan XD is designed to be a hauler and puller, there is nothing like a "towing package" typically available on half-ton pickups.

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For a larger version of the 2016 Nissan Titan XD price sheet, click on the image above.

Acceleration

Acceleration tests were done at the Royal Purple Raceway in Baytown, Texas, on a clear, windless, cool day in December with the rest of our Texas Truck Showdown 2016: Max Towing competitors. All the pickups were tested empty (with one adult male behind the wheel) and with 1,750 pounds of rock salt in the beds. All the acceleration numbers for the Titan XD are directly comparable to the other half-tons, but it should be noted the Nissan did weigh 2,360 pounds more than our lightest truck (the 2016 Ford F-150 Lariat) and 1,300 pounds more than our heaviest (the 2016 Toyota Tundra 1794 Edition).

During our empty runs down the quarter-mile, the Nissan clocked 17.2 seconds @ 82.9 mph, the slowest of our test group by almost 2 seconds. When comparing the best zero-to-60-mph runs, at 9.4 seconds the Titan XD was slower than the competition by almost 2.5 seconds, and slower than our fastest pickup, the 6.2-liter V-8 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 LTZ, by more than 3.5 seconds.

During loaded runs, the Titan XD did the quarter-mile in 18.3 seconds @ 78.0 mph, again coming in around 2 seconds slower than the other half-tons. In the zero-to-60 test, the Nissan took 11 seconds, 1.6 seconds slower than its empty run. Most of the gas-engine competitors ran this test between a second and 1.5 seconds slower than their empty runs.

Braking

While the Titan XD was sluggish at wide-open throttle, braking was a different story. Each of XD test runs was done on the same stretch of racetrack at the Royal Purple Raceway on the same day with the same test procedures as the other pickups. Each truck was run up to 62 mph in top gear, then allowed to slow down to 60 mph before the brakes were smashed, forcing the pickup into an emergency brake simulation.

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During our empty runs, the much heavier Titan XD put its larger and stronger brakes (both front and rear discs are more than 14 inches in diameter) to the test. It bested three of the five competitors (the Ford, the 2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Longhorn and the Toyota) and finished just behind the two GM pickups. Its shortest stopping distance was 143.9 feet.

After we added 1,750 pounds of rock salt, stopping distances for the Nissan lengthened by just 3 feet, stopping from the same speed in 147.0 feet, giving it the second-best stopping distance of the half-ton group.

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Fuel Economy

Our fuel-economy loops were conducted in the Houston area, with a good mix of two-lane city driving and multilane highway cruising. Because of Houston's flat terrain, our empty runs achieved some of the most impressive real-world fuel-economy numbers we've seen.

Interestingly, both the GM players (the 5.3-liter V-8 2016 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LTZ and 6.2-liter V-8 Sierra, both with new eight-speed transmissions) did equally well with a calculated empty mpg (miles driven divided by exact amount of fuel used) of 23.9. The heavier Titan XD did not do as well, with a 19.9 mpg calculation during our 170-mile empty loop.

During our running of the same loop with a 10,100-pound Load Trail flatbed trailer carrying two fully filled water tanks, however, our results were quite different. The bigger, heavier Titan XD with the Cummins V-8 rated at 555 pounds-feet of torque at 1,600 rpm won this contest by sipping the least amount of fuel with a 12.1 mpg calculation.

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The Ford, Ram and Toyota came equipped with larger, optional fuel tanks, offering more tank range when towing or hauling a full load. The GMs and the Titan XD do not offer a larger fuel tank with crew-cab configurations; a 26-gallon tank is standard.

We should note that unlike the other half-ton pickups we tested, the Titan XD does not have an EPA fuel-economy rating because its gross vehicle weight rating is more than 8,500 pounds.

Sounding Off

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All pickup makers understand the importance of interior sound levels since many pickups will see family duty or be used to transport people. All of the premium trim packages have extra sound-deadening materials to create luxury-car quietness for their buyers, but most of the players in this test had a trim package just below top-of-the-line levels; the Ram and Tundra were the exceptions. Although the Titan XD SL was fairly well equipped, Nissan needs to be sensitive to the fact that many of its buyers will likely want to hear the powerful diesel engine.

We measured each pickup with our hand-held sound meter, all in the same place in the same way on the same day. We conducted measurements at idle in a quiet section of a parking lot and at 60 mph on the same stretch of the Interstate 10 just west of Beaumont on a Sunday morning when traffic was light. Tests were conducted with the windows up, and the radio and air conditioning turned off.

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Unsurprisingly, at idle the Cummins diesel was louder than the half-ton gasoline engines at 46.2 decibels. The best trucks, the Silverado and F-150, measured 40.1 decibels. When driving at 60 mph in top gear on the interstate over a recently repaved stretch of road, the Titan XD was quieter than the Ram and the Tundra with a reading of 63.4 decibels. The Ford and GM trucks were at or below 62.5 decibels.

Dyno Ratings

Our chassis dynamometer tests were conducted at EngineLogics' shop just outside Houston. EngineLogics uses a Mustang MD250 in-ground rear-wheel dyno that gave us full horsepower and torque curves for each competitor.

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The Nissan's Cummins engine produced a peak rating of 270 horsepower at 3,100 rpm, but when it comes to diesel engines it's all about the torque. Our Titan XD engine produced 455 pounds-feet of torque at 2,250 rpm. What makes that so impressive is that most of that power is easily accessible from just below 1,700 rpm all the way up to 3,500 rpm, offering the flattest torque curve of anything in this comparison test.

Payload and Towing

Nissan has been clear from the beginning: Its research indicates there are many potential pickup buyers who regularly tow and haul but who don't want the many trade-offs in ride quality, trim packages and functionality associated with three-quarter-ton pickups.

When comparing payload numbers with the Texas Truck Showdown 2016 competitors, the Titan XD numbers aren't as impressive as you might expect, even though it has the highest GVWR at 8,990 pounds. No doubt much of that is due to the fact that it has a heavier diesel engine, stronger frame and suspension, and axles, but the trade-offs are oddly significant here. The Silverado, F-150 and Sierra have higher calculated payload ratings (actual weight subtracted from GVWR) than the Titan XD by more than 270, 170 and 230 pounds, respectively.

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As to its towing capacity, the numbers are equally schizophrenic. Even though the Titan XD 4x4 we tested had the highest gross combined weight rating by thousands of pounds (in some cases), it does not have the highest factory-rated maximum towing capacity (11,638 pounds) of the group. Both the 4x2 F-150 and Sierra had higher factory-rated numbers at 11,800 and 12,000 pounds respectively. Granted, we're measuring 4x4 numbers against 4x2 numbers, but the fact that they're so close is a little discouraging.

Likewise, when calculating a real-world maximum tow rating (factory GCWR minus GVWR), the bigger, heavier Nissan — at 10,460 pounds — offers only 160 pounds more towing capacity than the GMC, 260 pounds more than the Ford and about 1,100 pounds more than the Silverado.

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Drive Impressions

We need to be mindful that this is the first configuration of the new Titan that Nissan is providing; another is coming. The Titan XD comes with four doors, a heavy-duty chassis, a turbo-diesel and a 6.5-foot bed. So this is a longer, bigger, heavier and stronger pickup truck than a normal half-ton. But the half-ton segment is where Nissan expects buyers to come from because the Titan XD will satisfy their unmet needs.

We'll start out positive and say that when carrying a heavy load, the Nissan crushed its competition. While the F-150 and Ram had difficulty running our drive routes and other tests in a confident, controlled manner with 1,750 pounds in the bed, the Nissan felt composed and stable. Several of our drivers noted that if they hadn't seen the factory numbers, they'd guess the XD could carry another 1,000 pounds without a problem.

Where some of the other pickups squatted by as much as 6 inches and were close to the axle bump stops with their load (even when hundreds of pounds short of their max payload rating), the Nissan didn't look like it had anything in the bed, running mostly level. Even our track test driver said that the only way he could tell the Titan XD had the rock salt in its bed was that it seemed to hook up a touch better off the line.

With a conventional 10,000-pound-plus loaded trailer hooked up to the bumper (using a weight-distributing hitch, of course), the Titan XD did seem a bit taxed. But with all that low-end torque and the axle-calming rear sway bar, none of our test drivers said anything about being worried about hauling with the load. The coil-sprung Ram also had a rear anti-sway bar, but it didn't feel nearly as settled as the Nissan.

When it came to towing comfort, the Nissan Titan XD was head and shoulders above the rest, due in large part to its transmission software tuning. Our judges found the grade braking and transmission shifts in the Aisin transmission to be standout features; the exceptionally smart and efficient Aisin held gears properly under load when accelerating from a stop and when braking. The smart grade-shifting and quick downshifts were a huge advantage over the competition.

Additionally, visibility with the towing mirrors and 360-degree surround-view backup camera was excellent, and the key-activated trailer light feature was brilliant and simple. Those, along with the multidimensional trailer-brake controller (three levels of aggressiveness dependent on the type of trailer you're pulling) and the standard gooseneck/fifth-wheel in-bed hitch, make the Titan XD a clear choice for someone who owns or plans to purchase a heavy-duty double- or triple-axle trailer.

Conclusion

The obvious question here is if the Titan XD had competed in our Texas Truck Showdown 2016 Max Towing competition, where would it have placed? For the sake of full disclosure, we tested the Nissan Titan XD at exactly the same time as our other 2016 Texas Truck Showdown competitors and it was judged by experts in comparison to other pickups as well. 

From our tests, after recalculating all the scores to include the Titan XD, it looks like the Nissan would have been the top scorer in four of the 20 scored objective categories/tests (GVWR, GCWR, calculated max towing, and dyno'd max torque), but quite a bit behind the others in almost every other category, leaving it to finish in fourth place after the 20 tests (in front of the Ram and Toyota, but 154 points behind the GMC) and in fifth place (just ahead of the Tundra) after our judges scores were added. The Nissan finished in last place with our judges, finishing 78 points behind the GMC. 

When judged against half-ton pickups — combining judges' scores with our test scores — the Titan XD would have finished in second to last place overall. Still, for a brand-new truck that's carving out new territory in the hopes of finding a new type of truck buyer, there are plenty of things to like here, many of which are only dependent on what you need and like in a pickup.

If you're looking for luxury comfort and a car-like ride, the Titan XD won't be a good choice. When compared to maxed-out half-tons, the Nissan offers a harsher ride even though it has max payload and towing numbers similar to some lighter-duty competitors.

These details are likely be the biggest challenges for salespeople dealing with smart truck shoppers: The XD has capabilities similar to half-ton pickups, it rides rougher, it doesn't have the power or strength of current three-quarter-ton diesel options and it's more expensive. That's going to be a tricky sale pitch.

But if Nissan measures success by sales volume, it's likely to be happy this time next year. Even if Nissan sells a good majority of the Cummins production run (about 40,000 engines), that would more than double the number of Titans sold last year.

One quick reminder: The Titan XD will get a gasoline V-8 in the next few months — a new direct-injection version of the Endurance 5.6-liter V-8 that should have more power and better fuel economy than before. Also, the light-duty Nissan Titan chassis will be shown to journalists later this year; that will offer a V-6 and the new V-8 as engine options with additional trim and cab configurations. We'll have more on those models later.

Cars.com photos by Evan Sears and Angela Connors

 

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Comments

@JC-maybe you forgot the Sierra 6.2 and EcoBoost ran high priced 91 octane gas, which costs more than diesel. The 6.2 REQUIRES it all the time, the Eco-Bust it is recommended for heavy towing. You get down to the Chevy 5.3, which is a 1 mpg increase, but wait, you are comparing 4x4 Nissan mileage to the 4x2 Chevy.

In my area 93 octane (we dont have much 91) is a few cents cheaper than diesel. we have 87 89 and 93 and most vehicles that require prem will run good on 89 w/o any pinging/det.
89 is only about 15 cents more than 87 so it cost a few dollars more a tank.
My motor is dyno tuned and i only run 89 or higher and with the amount bad fuel i see at my shop i only use top tier fuel.

The article complains that the max tow rating for the XD is only a little better than the competition, but it also clearly states that the XD 'feels' much better when hauling or towing heavy loads.

Sounds to me like Nissan takes a reasonable approach to max ratings where everyone else pushes it too far. The XD should have been given credit for this in the scoring.

wow! I am impressed!
Nissan is giving you what you wanted!

The economy is going to crash in a few months, all your investments and money in the bank is going to disappear.
Heck! you could be dead tomorrow!
Buy one! Buy it now and spend that money before its gone cause you'll regret it later.
The one who dies or goes broke with the nicest toys is the winner.

It's still cheaper to run with premium.

http://calcnexus.com/fuel-cost-calculator.php?miles=15000&price1=2.258&price2=2.019&mpg1=23.9&mpg2=19.9&calc=1

It didn't say it felt better towing. It said it shifter better with the Aisian tranny. It said it felt more settled than the Ram. How about the other trucks and HDs?

There is no clear choice because these are legally HD trucks and need to be compared to the new HDs. The non-HD is the half ton and wasn't tested. Nissan wants to say this is a HD alternative; therefore, it needs to be tested against HDs primarily the new Super Duty.

@johnny doe
Go re-read the "driving impression" section

@johnny doe
Go re-read the "driving impression" section


It didn't say it felt better towing. It said it shifter better with the Aisian tranny. It said it felt more settled than the Ram. How about the other trucks and HDs?

There is no clear choice because these are legally HD trucks and need to be compared to the new HDs. The non-HD is the half ton and wasn't tested. Nissan wants to say this is a HD alternative; therefore, it needs to be tested against HDs primarily the new Super Duty.

Posted by: johnny doe | Feb 8, 2016 3:56:46 PM

I the real johnny doe did not type the above comment. So goof is using my name again

I read it.....

Nissan: With a conventional 10,000-pound-plus loaded trailer hooked up to the bumper (using a weight-distributing hitch, of course), the Titan XD did seem a bit taxed.

Ford: "The torque from the EcoBoost 3.5-liter is confidence inspiring with big payloads," Bruzek said. Smith appreciated the Ford's "surprisingly nice balance of horsepower and fuel economy."

GM: "The hot-rod 6.2-liter engine and eight-speed transmission are a match made in heaven," Bruzek said, "capable of making a maxed-out payload feel nonexistent." "The engine and transmission are synced up like a smooth-flying jet rocket," Williams added. And Smith liked "the fuel economy and power the 6.2-liter and eight-speed combo provides." "I love the sound of the 6.2," Sundling noted. "It's surprising how much of a sleeper hot rod this is," Williams said. "Loaf along and get rewarded; stomp the throttle and get rewarded too."

Nissan: taxed with big loads

Ford: confidence-inspring with big loads

GM: smooth flying jet, match made in heaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

Big AL wrote:
RoadTrip,
I'd say it will have as good FE or better than the V8 1/2 ton pickups in real life driving.

The diesel's FE will not change too much, like a gasoline engine.

I do believe the 17mpg as kosher. But what is the FE on a Pentastar Ram in real life? It's around 17mpg. What about the Hemi powered Ram or even on of those 15.4 mpg Eco Thirst aluminiumised F-150s?

It isn't that poor overall.
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Here's the problem: why would I pay the price premium of a Titan XD diesel when it doesn't perform any better than the gasoline engine 1/2-tons, and far worse than the diesel 3/4-tons? If I'm only going to get the mileage of a Ram V6 or Chevy V8, there's no point in spending the extra thousands of dollars for a diesel that gives me no advantage. The Ram VM diesel at least gives you notably superior mileage than the gasoline competition. The diesels in the 3/4-ton trucks give far better hauling and towing ability. The Titan XD gives you nothing but a lighter wallet.

I think they said the XD was 2 secs slower than the pack in the loaded acceration test. That's sad bordering on pathetic!

oh great, there was one inaccurate decent comment from johnny trvll and he didn't even write.

FML

I am impressed!
Nissan is giving you what you wanted!
The economy is going to crash in a few months, all your investments and money in the bank is going to disappear.
Heck! you could be dead tomorrow!
Buy one! Buy it now and spend that money before its gone cause you'll regret it later.
The one who dies or goes broke with the nicest toys is the winner.
Posted by: Lou_DC | Feb 8, 2016... /QUOTE
LOL
What efin bank are you keeping Your money in??
Nigerian virtual bitcoins...L

My eight year old Silvy biggest fix was 160$ for a silly air bag sensor,,no other problems...google Nisan truck problems on YT sometimes maybe youll wake up in time

This truck, with its 550+ lbft. of torque and HD chassis should be able to run circles around the half tons, but it doesn't. Yes it holds its own in the tests, but it's not trouncing the competitors at all.

This is a 3/4 ton truck. I bet if it was put up against 3/4 ton trucks, it would have a hard time competing.

Almost as good as a half ton - almost as good as a 3/4 ton. Not sure I get what Nissan was trying to achieve.

Lastly - what's with the tiny fuel tank?

Big let down - I really wanted this truck to be a game changer - I wanted to buy one. But I don't see a benefit for this truck vs. others. I tow an 8000# car trailer - I think a half ton or domestic 3/4 ton would be a better option for me.

Good grief it's not a 3/4 ton. When are people going to realize that? It's purposely slotted in between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton in terms of build. Not necessarily in terms of towing or hauling. Although it will haul way more than any 1/2 ton better.
This is the perfect truck if someone wants a non grocery getter and doesn't want to pay for a 3/4 ton. Comparing the high price to a 3/4 ton is ridiculous too. You can say the same about a 1/2 ton. Just because you can buy a 3/4 ton that's not loaded for the price of a loaded Titan doesn't mean you should get the 3/4 ton. Not everyone needs a 3/4 ton.
The RAWR will allow the Titan XD with the venerable Cummins to haul most 5th wheels and all travel trailers while getting better mpg. This truck is going to put a big dent in all 1/2 ton sales. That's why there's talk of Ford putting a diesel in the F150 next year. Ram broke the mold when they went with the Eco diesel. They're back ordered on most lots. The Titan will be the same way when it hits the showrooms. What's not to like about a heavy 1/2 ton with a Cummins that has a RAWR that allows it to haul way, way more than it's completion?

@gentlemen: there is a difference between a "rating" or "rated" or "estimated" and the real deal. Until you've personally tested one of these trucks you can't really appreciate the difference.

Ford "rates" their truck one way; GM another. RAM has this "rating."

If you are towing more than 3 or 4 tons on a trailer, the XD and the HD competitors from the US automakers are your oyster.

Give Nissan some credit for offering some V8 powered heavy duty pickup options at a time when the EPA was leaning on the manufacturers to put their trucks on a diet.

@ dale milner

It won't haul most 5th wheels. The payload is no better than a half ton and the pin weight will be exceeded the same as a light duty 1500. You couldn't be more wrong about hauling capabilities of the XD.

The XD is a niche vehicle and will not impact half ton sales.

The few bleeding edge folks that rushed out to buy an XD have to be feeling some pain. We know how informed buyers will approach the XD, the next question is how will Nissan respond.

Titan can haul a couple 4 wheelers and a few cinder blocks in a gooseneck trailer configuration is about all it can haul legally. legally these guys could only get it to 10,700 lb trailer before it overloaded on the payload without getting the trailer to light on the pin weight. It doesn't have the payload to be a 5er puller unless you are on a really light 5er. 15% pin weight on a 10k trailer is about the limits of the truck.
http://www.tfltruck.com/2016/01/2016-nissan-titan-xd-5-0l-cummins-takes-on-the-extreme-ike-gauntlet-towing-test-video/

The new Titan XD does not seem too exciting. I own a 10' Tundra 5.7 that i use for both work and play. And I have always been envious of the first generation Titan. When it came out in 2004, nothing can compete with the Titan. I was really hoping the 2nd gen Titan would do the same.

Nissan should really go back to the drawing broads. This truck is not in between the half ton and 3/4 ton trucks. Yet is price is close to that of the 3/4 ton trucks. The Titan is having a hard time holding its own ground competing with the 1/2 ton trucks.

It may be built to be a damn good work horse, but i'm sure there are a lot of people like me who wants performance stats. Its all about bragging rights.

My Ram has a 392 Hemi V8 class leading.

Watch and learn kids. Chrysler is was and always will be the King!!!

Guts

Glory Class leading

Ram

Combat proven Power Wagon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz8_AQjzlmc

" in a truck that offers three-quarter-ton towing and payload capability with half-ton driving dynamics."

That's why I love my 15 Power Wagon.

Chevy builds a better way to see the usa

If you had $50K in the bank wouldn't you ratter spend it than the government taking it away?
It's already happening in other countries.
When Bernie Sanders is president he will raid your bank account and your 401K, if you work your paycheck will be sent to the government and the government will give you back what they think you need.

President Sanders doesn't think you need a new truck so that money you have to buy one will be taken from you.

go ahead and laugh! laugh all you want cause you'll soon see I was right

So much for the non union $12 per hour Nisson workers saving on the price of a pick up. I guess it still holds true that 9 out of the 10 most efficient assembly plants in the USA are UAW. Educated workers are better workers, red neck non union employees waste company money.

The XD is not for me I am waiting on the real 1/2 ton from Nissan due in the spring.
The XD is a tweener that may fit the bill for some in between buyers though especially those who tow heavy loads.
I want that new v8 from Nissan with variable valve lift tech in a light 1/2 ton .

@Skeeter: In northwest Arkansas, it's 1.35 or so for regular unleaded, 1.69 for diesel, and 1.91 for premium.

The premium is way over priced. But the typical GM 6.2 buyer apparently has a pocket I'll of money to pay another 15$ to fill the tank, because, when you have a 600$ truck payment, what's 15 dollars, right?

Nothing affordable about the GM 6.2, or the Ego Bust.

Advantage:

1…The Titan XD excelled was when there was“1,750 pounds in the bed”.

2…“With a conventional 10,000-pound-plus loaded trailer hooked up to the bumper (using a weight-distributing hitch, of course), the Titan XD did seem a bit taxed.”

BUT they also said this,” When it came to towing comfort, the Nissan Titan XD was head and shoulders above the rest”

3… Diesel engines usually have a big advantage over gasers in loaded mpg…..

Titan XD loaded mpg advantage: 0.5mpg over Sierra, 0.8 mpg over F150, 1 mpg over Chevy.

Disadvantages:

Cost:

6k more. I’m sure someone will point out that the Titan was a 4x4 but it is SL trim which is one step up from the bottom. The Ford was a Lariat and the Chevy a LTZ.

Insurance – in my part of the world its GVW means it has to be insured and licenced as a ¾ ton.

Empty performance:

Rides worse than the ½ tons in the test.

MPG sucks. 4 mpg worse than the 6.2 Chevy and 2.9 mpg worse than the F150.

******Who buys max tow/HD cargo package ½ ton pickups? *******

Commercial and personal use buyers.

WHY?

Surprisingly enough, the same reason.

They occasionally need to tow and/or haul heavy but not frequently enough to justify the extra cost to purchase and the extra cost to operate and insure a ¾ ton truck.

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The Titan’s only positive is loaded and towing comfort and feel.

GUESS WHAT?

Any ¾ ton diesel is going to ride well with $1,750 lbs in the box, the engine won’t notice the weight.

Any ¾ ton diesel isn’t going to notice a 10k trailer either.

GM said the average HD truck owner tows 10k. Ram says the average ½ ton owner tows 5k.

Nissan says ¾ ton buyers and ½ ton buyers will buy this truck!

That big “C” on the fender saved Dodge pickups and that will be the only thing that saves the XD.

@Lou_BC- Looks like you are confused. The SL is the second from the top, the SV is the second from the bottom. The Platinum Reserve is the top line.

I see you cherry picked the empty mileage (of the 2 trucks that one demands premium gas all the time, more expensive than diesel, and Ego Bust recommends it for that kind of duty.

Don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but when I went out west to Washington last summer the diesel was cheaper than the regular unleaded.

..and as for the big C saving Dodge, that wasn't the only change. While they were the last to go to automatic overdrive transmissions, they finally did that in about 89, 3 years before bringing out the Magnum engines, that beat Chevy to having port fuel injection, by 3 years or so, on trucks, anyway. The new body came out in 93, so that made a huge difference.

TRX-4 Tom,
I do believe we will see a different story regarding the actual FE from the Titan in comparison to the V8s and even Frod turbo charged EcoThirsts.

The first issue is the Titan will improve by at least 10% as the diesel is run in. This is also true of the diesels power/torque output.

Diesels are as tight as a Nun's %#*@ when new.

Lou is after a car, like most others on PUTC.

What he didn't mention is, it felt as if the Titan could handle another 1 000lbs.

Lou has yet to make mention of the sagging Ford and the not so sagging Titan.

This indicates to me Nissan might have a different "pound" than say Ford. A Ford pound is 70% of a Nissan pound.

It shows that Lou is heavily biased towards Ford press release data in his comments.

The article complains that the max tow rating for the XD is only a little better than the competition, but it also clearly states that the XD 'feels' much better when hauling or towing heavy loads.

Sounds to me like Nissan takes a reasonable approach to max ratings where everyone else pushes it too far. The XD should have been given credit for this in the scoring.

Posted by: Striker45 | Feb 8, 2016 3:21:34 PM

Truest commend stated on this post. When you review the latest 1/2 ton challenge results, it is obvious that Ford has overrated the capabilities of the F-150. The Ford fanbots don't really care about comments like yours, Striker45, they only care about what Ford says in their marketing literature. If you listen closely, you can hear the Ford fanboys all breath a collective sigh of relief that they didn't fall farther behind GM.

TRX-4 Tom - where the truck sits in the pecking order of trim was an oversight on my part but it is an expensive truck.

I'm not cherry picking data, I used the numbers from the top trucks in the initial test. Those trucks comprised of the 6.2, 5.3, and EB3.5. Those also happen to be the top selling trucks in the USA.

Diesel prices vary. In my town at the same gas station regular is 0.754/litre, premium 0.904/litre and diesel is 0.899/litre. Currently it is a wash between diesel and gas in my region. Contractors get better prices at bulk plants and card-locks but non of those guys will touch a lightweight capacity Titan XD.

Even if one removes the mpg differences between the trucks, the Titan XD is too heavy and has inadequate cargo ratings to be of any good for anyone other than a guy wanting the "privilege" of driving a Cummins powered truck.

We need a HD 3/4 ton test with the Titan XD. Mark Williams has said that it wasn't in the 1/2 ton test because, " First, the Titan XD is not a half-ton". They mentioned that the only one they could get is 4x4 but that did not stop them from including the Tundra.

I'd like to see a capable diesel 1/2 ton pickup with good cargo ratings but so far there isn't one that I'd buy.
The Ram Ecodiesel comes up short but at least it delivers on mpg.
The Titan XD is too big with too small a cargo rating.
The Colorado/Canyon diesel has a respectable 1500lb cargo rating but I'm not interested in small trucks at this time. It is the only one right now that I'd remotely consider.

Until someone makes a diesel 1/2 ton that is on par cargo wise with the gasser 1/2 tons I'm not remotely interested.

Diesels are as tight as a Nun's %#*@ when new.


Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 9, 2016 1:38:30 PM

Ok this is going to be fun. Please BARFO, explain what is so tight in a diesel engine that wears out enough to give extra clearance to "loosen up". You know, because you are the almighty diesel expert.

@BARFo - the only thing sagging is your credibility. Oh and I'm sure that a HD Payload package F150 would not have an issue with the loads seen in the test. If someone were to tow and haul heavier loads more frequently then that would be the truck to get. I'd like to see a max tow/haul F150 up against the Titan XD.

But hey, it would be one more loss for the Titan XD since it already lost to a regular capacity F150.

It is always amusing to see comments from a non-resident, non-domestic truck owner.
Move to the USA or Canada and buy one of our trucks and perhaps you might have some relevance.

Those dyno results show me the GM V8 still short on torque. Loosen up you down under diesel. You're more biased than an old tire, ha.

The first issue is the Titan will improve by at least 10% as the diesel is run in. This is also true of the diesels power/torque output.

Diesels are as tight as a Nun's %#*@ when new.
Posted by: Big Al from Oz | Feb 9, 2016 1:38:30 PM

Calling out Big Albert from down under. Please inform us simpletons on what is so tight in a diesel that it must wear out enough to reduce the parasitic drag on the engine that it actually increases FE by a minimum of 10% and not cause so much wear that power actually improves from this wear that decreases engine drag.

@LMAO I think Big Al is referring to the old days before CNC and modern machining. When I was a kid guys worried a lot about choosing the right piston rings, metal hardness and honing cylinders.

That stuff is still important of course, but it is managed a lot more effectively, i.e., less guesswork than 60 years ago.

Should mean that friction and surfacing have been optimized a bit in recent years. My own experience with cars/trucks during the last 30-40 years sure seems to bear it out.

I think the article misses the point with this truck. The torque numbers are far greater than the gasser trucks plus the Nissan is a much heavier vehicle that gets better MPG when towing. Essentially you get a heavier truck that will equal a smoother ride and be much more stable when towing while saving on fuel. Also, the vehicle is in the same price range as the others. Minus $3,000 right away for the 4x4 and probably 1-2 thousand more for options. I am not a Nissan man but wait and compare the titan gasser with the endurance engine to these other trucks to get a better idea of an "apples to apples" test result.

It's funny that all the people talking gas mileage somehow forgot that if the trucks in the half ton test were 4x4 as the Nissan is, mileage would easily be half mile per gallon to 1 mpg less.

This is a tweener.

The Ford and GM 6.2 say they can tow 12,000, as you add 1,000 pounds to this test, watch the Nissan exceed.

This might not be the truck for a speedster, but a person that tows 7 to 12,000 regularly will not even look at the Ford (if they have sense) and the GM, nah, too much spent.

How many people built a Ram or other 2500 truck with a diesel, in 4x4 crew cab , atleast an Outdoorsman? It's nowhere close to the price of this.

This will do what the Ford and GMC "half tons" will do comfortably. I think that's what's got a few people annoyed, competition.

I myself don't care for the looks of the truck though. Just sayin!

HEMI V8 - the Power Wagon actually has 1/2 ton payload and 1/2 ton tow ratings.
That is what gives it a better ride and off-road manners than a typical 3/4 ton.
If anything, it's tow/haul specs are similar to the Titan XD. That alone whould be why I'd like to see the Titan XD actually release the Warrior concept.

I received my ProV pickup last week.. I must say I love it. Its a great truck and very nicely built.

Although the XD appears to have an impressive diesel engine, when it comes to towing gooseneck or 5th wheel trailers, the promotion is all hype. It should be promoted for towing conventional trailers only. At best, the realistic 5th wheel towing capacity is about 6,195 lbs. for the SV model. Check out this towing review: http://fifthwheelst.com/tow_rating_titan_truck.html

Actually papajim you reason might be common back then for gasolines more so than a diesel.

If you were aware of the construction of a diesel engine you would of know that the bearing surface areas on diesel engines is significantly larger than the total bearing surface on gasoline engines.

The diesel's larger bearing surface area is required to manage the much larger and extreme loads placed on them.

In the end the much larger bearing surface area of the diesels equate to more friction. Friction does impact power output.

It is not uncommon for even a 4 cylinder diesel to require even 50 000km to run in and free up completely.

All one has to do is look at the reported acceleration figures of test vehicles. I have seen in one test alone a BT50 requiring 13.4 seconds for a 0-100kph dash.

The Ford Ranger in the same test with the same engine, transmission, wheels/tyres, diff, etc to just under 10 seconds.

As the reviewer pointed out the Mazda was brand new with only several hundred kilometres on the clock and the Ranger had over 2 000km on the clock.

Even with my vehicle I'm noticing a massive difference in it's performance. Especially driving in the wet up a particular freeway on ramp.

Even when my pickup had 30 000km on it it would occasionally wheel spin up the ramp in certain places. Now the vehicle can be easily induced to wheel spin up the ramp in the same gear/speed.

My engine actually rev'd out to 4 200rpm today. This would of been impossible to do within the first 30 000km. I now have 50 000km on the clock.

I have changed the oil lately and it is a different brand, actually a cheaper brand. This could also be impacting the engines output with the running in of the engine.

All these tests are a joke, no one in here drives their trucks like they do these tests.

I don't look to this site to make my decisions on what truck to buy.

I, for one, think Nissan did a great job with this new truck. When I look around the roads in Vancouver, I see many 3/4 or 1 ton trucks pulling trailers that don't require a leviathan machine. As well, I see many 1/2 ton trucks pulling near maximum loads, thinking to myself ,"when will that transmission break?", or "how long will those brakes last?" This vehicle seems to fulfill a role that many will find just right. As noted in the loaded fuel economy ratings, Nissan came out ahead. It makes sense to me.

I traded in my f250 on the Titan XD and I am happy with my decision. As a matter of fact I was the first in my county to own one. I have driven both the 3/4 and half ton in gas and diesel and it comes down to a matter of opinion and what you are looking for in a pickup or if you know for that matter. Before having a program installed I averaged 19.5 on my titan at 70 mph, with the program I am doing 23 all day and if I drop to 55 mph I am doing 28. The titan is not a mule but it is a full grown horse that will make a mule sweat.

Why is this truck compared with 1500's??
It's got a GVWR of over 8501, therfore it's a 2500 (or 2b classification) truck..
Not saying it'd do any better against similarly equipped trucks, quite to the contrary actually, but testing it against 1500's just because Nissan calls it a "heavy duty-half ton is really catering to them, isn't it?

If debadged my 3500 as a Dodge Durango, would you run it in a towing test against one?

@JS

I think that Mark Williams addressed the concerns you mention with some misgivings of his own. No comparison will be perfectly fair to all participants. They were simply trying to offer PUTC reads a sneak peek at a new product.



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